Update: The Illegal Alien Vote

[PoliticalChic]

What you're "saying" is all untrue. So, what you're saying is you're a liar.

I never lie.

That's why you're here: by revealing the scam, the Democrat plans to infect and direct our elections with masses of mercenaries from beyond our border, I've wounded you and every supporter of the scheme.


You are either
1. a true believer in taking over our country

or

2. are incensed at what the thread reveals, as it destroys your worldview.



In either case.....
.....excellent.

You are lying when you say you never lie.

Easily disproved "misstatement" of yours...that there are "50 million illegals" living in the US. Patently false.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

First and foremost.... I never lie.

Second, your error: I didn't say it....experts did.


But....let's review the numbers for you:

1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.


2. Determining the number of illegals is significant. Democrats will want to pretend that it is the lowest estimate....
If there are 12 million or so illegals living here, well...then it's easier to deny that they represent Bill's wife's supposed victory in the popular vote.
But.....if it's a far greater number.......

And it is.


Watch this:

3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes

"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.

When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research




Increased the totals by 13%!!!
Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:

Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.

And that isn't counting family members brought in under the law.

But....ask a lying Liberal....and the number is still 11 million.



4. So....is it still 11 million?.....or is the number of illegal aliens to over 40 million?



5. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.

"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.



Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.

He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.


Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research

....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!

Gettin' nervous?


6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.

The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.



True?

So.....There may be as many as 60 to 80 million illegal aliens occupying territory in this country.

7. And they vote.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.


Have we seen that sort of voting by illegals before?
...remember the Old Dominion study?

"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
We've got about a half to three quarters of a million illegal votes accounted for.




But....if 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now

a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty ()

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe more than six and a half percent went to the polls???
Maybe..... 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????


You bet they did.



Destroyed your post, huh?

Excellent.

No, you destroyed your own credibility. But since you've already done that in the past, what difference does it make now?

Not even close, but apparently you need validation of your self imposed "greatness". No wonder you're such a sycophant for the so called President.

Seems you can't figure out who you're trying to respond to.....

...bet you're a government school grad and reliable Democrat voter.

 

[Seawytch]

I never lie.

That's why you're here: by revealing the scam, the Democrat plans to infect and direct our elections with masses of mercenaries from beyond our border, I've wounded you and every supporter of the scheme.


You are either
1. a true believer in taking over our country

or

2. are incensed at what the thread reveals, as it destroys your worldview.



In either case.....
.....excellent.

You are lying when you say you never lie.

Easily disproved "misstatement" of yours...that there are "50 million illegals" living in the US. Patently false.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

First and foremost.... I never lie.

Second, your error: I didn't say it....experts did.


But....let's review the numbers for you:

1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.


2. Determining the number of illegals is significant. Democrats will want to pretend that it is the lowest estimate....
If there are 12 million or so illegals living here, well...then it's easier to deny that they represent Bill's wife's supposed victory in the popular vote.
But.....if it's a far greater number.......

And it is.


Watch this:

3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes

"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.

When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research




Increased the totals by 13%!!!
Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:

Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.

And that isn't counting family members brought in under the law.

But....ask a lying Liberal....and the number is still 11 million.



4. So....is it still 11 million?.....or is the number of illegal aliens to over 40 million?



5. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.

"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.



Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.

He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.


Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research

....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!

Gettin' nervous?


6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.

The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.



True?

So.....There may be as many as 60 to 80 million illegal aliens occupying territory in this country.

7. And they vote.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.


Have we seen that sort of voting by illegals before?
...remember the Old Dominion study?

"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
We've got about a half to three quarters of a million illegal votes accounted for.




But....if 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now

a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty ()

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe more than six and a half percent went to the polls???
Maybe..... 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????


You bet they did.



Destroyed your post, huh?

Excellent.

No, you destroyed your own credibility. But since you've already done that in the past, what difference does it make now?

Not even close, but apparently you need validation of your self imposed "greatness". No wonder you're such a sycophant for the so called President.

Seems you can't figure out who you're trying to respond to.....

...bet you're a government school grad and reliable Democrat voter.

I know precisely who I'm responding to...a Trump sycophant that feels the need to try to provide cover for the Big Orange liar...by telling even more lies.

Trump lost the popular vote and I'm not sorry that causes both you and Cheetolini no little consternation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are lying when you say you never lie.

Easily disproved "misstatement" of yours...that there are "50 million illegals" living in the US. Patently false.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

First and foremost.... I never lie.

Second, your error: I didn't say it....experts did.


But....let's review the numbers for you:

1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.


2. Determining the number of illegals is significant. Democrats will want to pretend that it is the lowest estimate....
If there are 12 million or so illegals living here, well...then it's easier to deny that they represent Bill's wife's supposed victory in the popular vote.
But.....if it's a far greater number.......

And it is.


Watch this:

3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes

"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.

When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research




Increased the totals by 13%!!!
Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:

Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.

And that isn't counting family members brought in under the law.

But....ask a lying Liberal....and the number is still 11 million.



4. So....is it still 11 million?.....or is the number of illegal aliens to over 40 million?



5. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.

"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.



Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.

He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.


Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research

....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!

Gettin' nervous?


6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.

The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.



True?

So.....There may be as many as 60 to 80 million illegal aliens occupying territory in this country.

7. And they vote.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.


Have we seen that sort of voting by illegals before?
...remember the Old Dominion study?

"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
We've got about a half to three quarters of a million illegal votes accounted for.




But....if 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now

a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty ()

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe more than six and a half percent went to the polls???
Maybe..... 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????


You bet they did.



Destroyed your post, huh?

Excellent.

No, you destroyed your own credibility. But since you've already done that in the past, what difference does it make now?

Not even close, but apparently you need validation of your self imposed "greatness". No wonder you're such a sycophant for the so called President.

Seems you can't figure out who you're trying to respond to.....

...bet you're a government school grad and reliable Democrat voter.

I know precisely who I'm responding to...a Trump sycophant that feels the need to try to provide cover for the Big Orange liar...by telling even more lies.

Trump lost the popular vote and I'm not sorry that causes both you and Cheetolini no little consternation.

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

 

[Seawytch]

First and foremost.... I never lie.

Second, your error: I didn't say it....experts did.


But....let's review the numbers for you:

1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.


2. Determining the number of illegals is significant. Democrats will want to pretend that it is the lowest estimate....
If there are 12 million or so illegals living here, well...then it's easier to deny that they represent Bill's wife's supposed victory in the popular vote.
But.....if it's a far greater number.......

And it is.


Watch this:

3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes

"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.

When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research




Increased the totals by 13%!!!
Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:

Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.

And that isn't counting family members brought in under the law.

But....ask a lying Liberal....and the number is still 11 million.



4. So....is it still 11 million?.....or is the number of illegal aliens to over 40 million?



5. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.

"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.



Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.

He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.


Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research

....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!

Gettin' nervous?


6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.

The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.



True?

So.....There may be as many as 60 to 80 million illegal aliens occupying territory in this country.

7. And they vote.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.


Have we seen that sort of voting by illegals before?
...remember the Old Dominion study?

"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
We've got about a half to three quarters of a million illegal votes accounted for.




But....if 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now

a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty ()

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe more than six and a half percent went to the polls???
Maybe..... 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????


You bet they did.



Destroyed your post, huh?

Excellent.

No, you destroyed your own credibility. But since you've already done that in the past, what difference does it make now?

Not even close, but apparently you need validation of your self imposed "greatness". No wonder you're such a sycophant for the so called President.

Seems you can't figure out who you're trying to respond to.....

...bet you're a government school grad and reliable Democrat voter.

I know precisely who I'm responding to...a Trump sycophant that feels the need to try to provide cover for the Big Orange liar...by telling even more lies.

Trump lost the popular vote and I'm not sorry that causes both you and Cheetolini no little consternation.

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, you destroyed your own credibility. But since you've already done that in the past, what difference does it make now?

Not even close, but apparently you need validation of your self imposed "greatness". No wonder you're such a sycophant for the so called President.

Seems you can't figure out who you're trying to respond to.....

...bet you're a government school grad and reliable Democrat voter.

I know precisely who I'm responding to...a Trump sycophant that feels the need to try to provide cover for the Big Orange liar...by telling even more lies.

Trump lost the popular vote and I'm not sorry that causes both you and Cheetolini no little consternation.

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

1. I accept that tortuous apology

2. I provided the conclusions of experts as to the underground population of illegal aliens.
As I pointed out, a small percent of that number easily accounts for the popular vote victory that Bill's wife claims.

3. I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

 

[radical right]

Let's check with some of the poll watchers:

You know the republicans also send poll watchers to each precinct. You post racist pictures of scary looking black people, but that doesn't change there are an equal number of republican poll watchers, to check ID's. So you must think republicans are too stupid to check ID's.

 

[Seawytch]

Not even close, but apparently you need validation of your self imposed "greatness". No wonder you're such a sycophant for the so called President.

Seems you can't figure out who you're trying to respond to.....

...bet you're a government school grad and reliable Democrat voter.

I know precisely who I'm responding to...a Trump sycophant that feels the need to try to provide cover for the Big Orange liar...by telling even more lies.

Trump lost the popular vote and I'm not sorry that causes both you and Cheetolini no little consternation.

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

1. I accept that tortuous apology

2. I provided the conclusions of experts as to the underground population of illegal aliens.
As I pointed out, a small percent of that number easily accounts for the popular vote victory that Bill's wife claims.

3. I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

The experts like the Department of Homeland Security? They say 11.5 million.

[The count of immigrants in the country illegally is an estimate, but several estimates put it in the same ballpark — and it's the 11 million ballpark, nowhere near 30 million. The Pew Research Center puts it at 11.3 million (a number that has held relatively steady for years, by its estimate, and is down by nearly 1 million from a recent peak in 2007). As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million. Trump has in fact made the 30 million claim before, and PolitiFact shot him down, labeling it "pants on fire," finding other independent estimates that were in the 11 to 12 million range. — Danielle Kurtzleben]

Fact Check: Donald Trump's Speech On Immigration

And Politifact rated it

Donald Trump wrongly says the number of illegal immigrants is 30 million or higher

 

[PoliticalChic]

Seems you can't figure out who you're trying to respond to.....

...bet you're a government school grad and reliable Democrat voter.

I know precisely who I'm responding to...a Trump sycophant that feels the need to try to provide cover for the Big Orange liar...by telling even more lies.

Trump lost the popular vote and I'm not sorry that causes both you and Cheetolini no little consternation.

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

1. I accept that tortuous apology

2. I provided the conclusions of experts as to the underground population of illegal aliens.
As I pointed out, a small percent of that number easily accounts for the popular vote victory that Bill's wife claims.

3. I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

The experts like the Department of Homeland Security? They say 11.5 million.

[The count of immigrants in the country illegally is an estimate, but several estimates put it in the same ballpark — and it's the 11 million ballpark, nowhere near 30 million. The Pew Research Center puts it at 11.3 million (a number that has held relatively steady for years, by its estimate, and is down by nearly 1 million from a recent peak in 2007). As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million. Trump has in fact made the 30 million claim before, and PolitiFact shot him down, labeling it "pants on fire," finding other independent estimates that were in the 11 to 12 million range. — Danielle Kurtzleben]

Fact Check: Donald Trump's Speech On Immigration

And Politifact rated it

Donald Trump wrongly says the number of illegal immigrants is 30 million or higher

You really can't be this stupid.....can you ???

11 million in 2003.....millions more every year....

....and the number is still 11 million.



Amazing how indelible your indoctrination is.
That level of misunderstanding is like believing that purchasing an airline ticket makes one able to flap their arms and fly.



On top of it, the 'expert' you quote is a Liberal stenographer:
PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets "fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups".PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia


The St. PetersburgTampa Bay Times, which started PolitiFact in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly, is a traditionally liberal paper. We note that PolitiFact's stories appear to damage Republicans far more often than Democrats despite the fact that PF tends to choose about as many stories dealing with Republicans as for Democrats. If the selection process was blind then either proportions should be approximately even or else the party with worse ratings should receive more ratings overall according to what PolitiFact lists as its selection criteria. Plus our independent research helps confirm the hypothesis. PolitiFact Bias: About PolitiFact Bias/FAQ


"The Tampa Bay Times, which produces the PolitFact Truth-o-Meter, has not endorsed a single Republican candidate this century for any of the three most important positions on the Florida election ballot. Accordingly, the Times scores a “Pants on Fire” for its lack of objectivity, according to an extensive analysis by Media Trackers Florida.

Since 2000, the Times has issued 10 endorsements in elections for U.S. President, U.S. Senate, and Florida Governor. Nine of the 10 endorsements went to Democrats, with the sole exception being theTimes’ endorsement of Democrat-leaning Independent Charlie Crist in the 2010 U.S. Senate contest." PolitiFact Parent Tampa Bay Times Scores ‘Pants on Fire’ for Partisan Bias - Media Trackers



PolitiFact’s liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)
PolitiFact's liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)




Pleeeezzzzz get your head out of wherever you left it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's check with some of the poll watchers:

You know the republicans also send poll watchers to each precinct. You post racist pictures of scary looking black people, but that doesn't change there are an equal number of republican poll watchers, to check ID's. So you must think republicans are too stupid to check ID's.

I know you've been trained to toss the term 'racist' as a way to silence the truth....

...won't work.

As they say, "racist' is a conservative winning the argument with a Liberal.
And so I am.

 

[Seawytch]

I know precisely who I'm responding to...a Trump sycophant that feels the need to try to provide cover for the Big Orange liar...by telling even more lies.

Trump lost the popular vote and I'm not sorry that causes both you and Cheetolini no little consternation.

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

1. I accept that tortuous apology

2. I provided the conclusions of experts as to the underground population of illegal aliens.
As I pointed out, a small percent of that number easily accounts for the popular vote victory that Bill's wife claims.

3. I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

The experts like the Department of Homeland Security? They say 11.5 million.

[The count of immigrants in the country illegally is an estimate, but several estimates put it in the same ballpark — and it's the 11 million ballpark, nowhere near 30 million. The Pew Research Center puts it at 11.3 million (a number that has held relatively steady for years, by its estimate, and is down by nearly 1 million from a recent peak in 2007). As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million. Trump has in fact made the 30 million claim before, and PolitiFact shot him down, labeling it "pants on fire," finding other independent estimates that were in the 11 to 12 million range. — Danielle Kurtzleben]

Fact Check: Donald Trump's Speech On Immigration

And Politifact rated it

Donald Trump wrongly says the number of illegal immigrants is 30 million or higher

You really can't be this stupid.....can you ???

11 million in 2003.....millions more every year....

....and the number is still 11 million.



Amazing how indelible your indoctrination is.
That level of misunderstanding is like believing that purchasing an airline ticket makes one able to flap their arms and fly.



On top of it, the 'expert' you quote is a Liberal stenographer:
PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets "fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups".PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia


The St. PetersburgTampa Bay Times, which started PolitiFact in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly, is a traditionally liberal paper. We note that PolitiFact's stories appear to damage Republicans far more often than Democrats despite the fact that PF tends to choose about as many stories dealing with Republicans as for Democrats. If the selection process was blind then either proportions should be approximately even or else the party with worse ratings should receive more ratings overall according to what PolitiFact lists as its selection criteria. Plus our independent research helps confirm the hypothesis. PolitiFact Bias: About PolitiFact Bias/FAQ


"The Tampa Bay Times, which produces the PolitFact Truth-o-Meter, has not endorsed a single Republican candidate this century for any of the three most important positions on the Florida election ballot. Accordingly, the Times scores a “Pants on Fire” for its lack of objectivity, according to an extensive analysis by Media Trackers Florida.

Since 2000, the Times has issued 10 endorsements in elections for U.S. President, U.S. Senate, and Florida Governor. Nine of the 10 endorsements went to Democrats, with the sole exception being theTimes’ endorsement of Democrat-leaning Independent Charlie Crist in the 2010 U.S. Senate contest." PolitiFact Parent Tampa Bay Times Scores ‘Pants on Fire’ for Partisan Bias - Media Trackers



PolitiFact’s liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)
PolitiFact's liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)




Pleeeezzzzz get your head out of wherever you left it.

As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million.

Drumph was "pants on fire" for saying 30 million. You went well beyond that. You're lying more than "pants on fire". NASA is going to start tracking you as contributing to climate change.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

1. I accept that tortuous apology

2. I provided the conclusions of experts as to the underground population of illegal aliens.
As I pointed out, a small percent of that number easily accounts for the popular vote victory that Bill's wife claims.

3. I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

The experts like the Department of Homeland Security? They say 11.5 million.

[The count of immigrants in the country illegally is an estimate, but several estimates put it in the same ballpark — and it's the 11 million ballpark, nowhere near 30 million. The Pew Research Center puts it at 11.3 million (a number that has held relatively steady for years, by its estimate, and is down by nearly 1 million from a recent peak in 2007). As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million. Trump has in fact made the 30 million claim before, and PolitiFact shot him down, labeling it "pants on fire," finding other independent estimates that were in the 11 to 12 million range. — Danielle Kurtzleben]

Fact Check: Donald Trump's Speech On Immigration

And Politifact rated it

Donald Trump wrongly says the number of illegal immigrants is 30 million or higher

You really can't be this stupid.....can you ???

11 million in 2003.....millions more every year....

....and the number is still 11 million.



Amazing how indelible your indoctrination is.
That level of misunderstanding is like believing that purchasing an airline ticket makes one able to flap their arms and fly.



On top of it, the 'expert' you quote is a Liberal stenographer:
PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets "fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups".PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia


The St. PetersburgTampa Bay Times, which started PolitiFact in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly, is a traditionally liberal paper. We note that PolitiFact's stories appear to damage Republicans far more often than Democrats despite the fact that PF tends to choose about as many stories dealing with Republicans as for Democrats. If the selection process was blind then either proportions should be approximately even or else the party with worse ratings should receive more ratings overall according to what PolitiFact lists as its selection criteria. Plus our independent research helps confirm the hypothesis. PolitiFact Bias: About PolitiFact Bias/FAQ


"The Tampa Bay Times, which produces the PolitFact Truth-o-Meter, has not endorsed a single Republican candidate this century for any of the three most important positions on the Florida election ballot. Accordingly, the Times scores a “Pants on Fire” for its lack of objectivity, according to an extensive analysis by Media Trackers Florida.

Since 2000, the Times has issued 10 endorsements in elections for U.S. President, U.S. Senate, and Florida Governor. Nine of the 10 endorsements went to Democrats, with the sole exception being theTimes’ endorsement of Democrat-leaning Independent Charlie Crist in the 2010 U.S. Senate contest." PolitiFact Parent Tampa Bay Times Scores ‘Pants on Fire’ for Partisan Bias - Media Trackers



PolitiFact’s liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)
PolitiFact's liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)




Pleeeezzzzz get your head out of wherever you left it.

As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million.

Drumph was "pants on fire" for saying 30 million. You went well beyond that. You're lying more than "pants on fire". NASA is going to start tracking you as contributing to climate change.

I sense that you are beginning to realize how stupid you appear.

[Pew projected this population reached at least 11 million as of March 2005. Unauthorized immigrant population stable for half a decade]

For a decade now, no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Pew, the most-quoted source, has used the figure since 2005. Some Homeland Security references approximating that number go back to 2003."
http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/27/y...w-how-many-illegal-immigrants-live-in-the-us/




11 million in 2003....
...still 11 million?????

You're feelin' pretty dumb right about now, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Post #1198...you mistakenly linked it as responding to someone called Faun.


I was hoping you'd aim a post at me, so I could rip you again.


Now...are you ready to admit that I was correct and you make an error in 1199?



Speak up.

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

1. I accept that tortuous apology

2. I provided the conclusions of experts as to the underground population of illegal aliens.
As I pointed out, a small percent of that number easily accounts for the popular vote victory that Bill's wife claims.

3. I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

The experts like the Department of Homeland Security? They say 11.5 million.

[The count of immigrants in the country illegally is an estimate, but several estimates put it in the same ballpark — and it's the 11 million ballpark, nowhere near 30 million. The Pew Research Center puts it at 11.3 million (a number that has held relatively steady for years, by its estimate, and is down by nearly 1 million from a recent peak in 2007). As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million. Trump has in fact made the 30 million claim before, and PolitiFact shot him down, labeling it "pants on fire," finding other independent estimates that were in the 11 to 12 million range. — Danielle Kurtzleben]

Fact Check: Donald Trump's Speech On Immigration

And Politifact rated it

Donald Trump wrongly says the number of illegal immigrants is 30 million or higher

You really can't be this stupid.....can you ???

11 million in 2003.....millions more every year....

....and the number is still 11 million.



Amazing how indelible your indoctrination is.
That level of misunderstanding is like believing that purchasing an airline ticket makes one able to flap their arms and fly.



On top of it, the 'expert' you quote is a Liberal stenographer:
PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets "fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups".PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia


The St. PetersburgTampa Bay Times, which started PolitiFact in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly, is a traditionally liberal paper. We note that PolitiFact's stories appear to damage Republicans far more often than Democrats despite the fact that PF tends to choose about as many stories dealing with Republicans as for Democrats. If the selection process was blind then either proportions should be approximately even or else the party with worse ratings should receive more ratings overall according to what PolitiFact lists as its selection criteria. Plus our independent research helps confirm the hypothesis. PolitiFact Bias: About PolitiFact Bias/FAQ


"The Tampa Bay Times, which produces the PolitFact Truth-o-Meter, has not endorsed a single Republican candidate this century for any of the three most important positions on the Florida election ballot. Accordingly, the Times scores a “Pants on Fire” for its lack of objectivity, according to an extensive analysis by Media Trackers Florida.

Since 2000, the Times has issued 10 endorsements in elections for U.S. President, U.S. Senate, and Florida Governor. Nine of the 10 endorsements went to Democrats, with the sole exception being theTimes’ endorsement of Democrat-leaning Independent Charlie Crist in the 2010 U.S. Senate contest." PolitiFact Parent Tampa Bay Times Scores ‘Pants on Fire’ for Partisan Bias - Media Trackers



PolitiFact’s liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)
PolitiFact's liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)




Pleeeezzzzz get your head out of wherever you left it.

As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million.

Drumph was "pants on fire" for saying 30 million. You went well beyond that. You're lying more than "pants on fire". NASA is going to start tracking you as contributing to climate change.

And....the 'Pants on Fire' graphic comes from a Liberal house organ.....
PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets "fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups".PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia


The St. PetersburgTampa Bay Times, which started PolitiFact in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly, is a traditionally liberal paper. We note that PolitiFact's stories appear to damage Republicans far more often than Democrats despite the fact that PF tends to choose about as many stories dealing with Republicans as for Democrats. If the selection process was blind then either proportions should be approximately even or else the party with worse ratings should receive more ratings overall according to what PolitiFact lists as its selection criteria. Plus our independent research helps confirm the hypothesis. PolitiFact Bias: About PolitiFact Bias/FAQ

I wonder why they'd lie for the Democrats, huh?


Better still....why you'd use them as you 'proof'?


Sooo......when did you agree to be a Liberal and give up the ability to actually 'think'?

 

[Dragonlady]

3. So....the first rule for a Liberal is understanding that you are politically unable- not allowed!- to use judgment, knowledge or experience, calculating how many illegals are in the country.

You have to stick to that bogus "11 million" number no matter what!




Let's see the source of the number that never changes, the 11 million:

"Three main players were involved in generating that number of 11 million illegal immigrants: Pew Research Center, the Center for Immigration Studies and the Department of Homeland Security. But they were only masseurs of the source data, which comes from the Census Bureau by means of two surveys: the Current Population Survey and the American Community Survey.

We need to identify these players.

Pew claims impartiality, but the methodologists for its numbers come from decidedly liberal roots such as the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute. The Center for Immigration Studies approaches the question from the side of more controlled and limited immigration flows. Homeland Security is a bureaucracy with a presidentially appointed secretary who carries out administration policies." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


These are the 'objective' sources of the data that Liberals/Democrats swallow whole.

All of these sources have an interest in increasing the power of Democrats/Liberals...i.e., gaining more Democrat voters.

Every study, even those done by the Heritage Foundation and other highly biased right wing sources have concluded that the illegals are NOT voting.

But I know that you don't give a rat's ass about facts, especially those which disagree with your previously held fantasies.

Wilfully ignorant, intellectually lazy and easily duped. Politically Clueless just keeps providing entertainment for the masses.

Yet, I just proved otherwise.....didn't I.


And exemplary results: you sweating and wringing your paws as your hopes go down the drain.


Excellent.




"Politically Clueless just keeps providing entertainment for the masses."

If, by the "masses" you are referring to yourself and other Liberals, remember....
....the 'm' is silent.

No, as always you claim have proven something, while cutting and pasting articles from questionable sources, but the "Pants on Fire" rating of this lie pretty much says it all.

That you believe ANY deflection that Trump tweets shows how intellectually and morally bankrupt you are. It's like watching 1984 playing out in real life.

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. So....the first rule for a Liberal is understanding that you are politically unable- not allowed!- to use judgment, knowledge or experience, calculating how many illegals are in the country.

You have to stick to that bogus "11 million" number no matter what!




Let's see the source of the number that never changes, the 11 million:

"Three main players were involved in generating that number of 11 million illegal immigrants: Pew Research Center, the Center for Immigration Studies and the Department of Homeland Security. But they were only masseurs of the source data, which comes from the Census Bureau by means of two surveys: the Current Population Survey and the American Community Survey.

We need to identify these players.

Pew claims impartiality, but the methodologists for its numbers come from decidedly liberal roots such as the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute. The Center for Immigration Studies approaches the question from the side of more controlled and limited immigration flows. Homeland Security is a bureaucracy with a presidentially appointed secretary who carries out administration policies." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


These are the 'objective' sources of the data that Liberals/Democrats swallow whole.

All of these sources have an interest in increasing the power of Democrats/Liberals...i.e., gaining more Democrat voters.

Every study, even those done by the Heritage Foundation and other highly biased right wing sources have concluded that the illegals are NOT voting.

But I know that you don't give a rat's ass about facts, especially those which disagree with your previously held fantasies.

Wilfully ignorant, intellectually lazy and easily duped. Politically Clueless just keeps providing entertainment for the masses.

Yet, I just proved otherwise.....didn't I.


And exemplary results: you sweating and wringing your paws as your hopes go down the drain.


Excellent.




"Politically Clueless just keeps providing entertainment for the masses."

If, by the "masses" you are referring to yourself and other Liberals, remember....
....the 'm' is silent.

No, as always you claim have proven something, while cutting and pasting articles from questionable sources, but the "Pants on Fire" rating of this lie pretty much says it all.

That you believe ANY deflection that Trump tweets shows how intellectually and morally bankrupt you are. It's like watching 1984 playing out in real life.

Twice now I've shown that PoliFact is owned and operated by Liberalism, Inc.

Dozens of times I've show that you are a total imbecile.

Any questions?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"However, our results also support the arguments made by voting and immigrant rights organizations that the portion of non-citizen immigrants who participate in U.S. elections is quite small."


Sooo...you've provided an admission that illegal aliens vote.

Excellent beginning.

You should continue in this vein, and admit that your incapable of thinking, and simply parrot DNC talking point.


Immediately.

Quoting your article is "parroting DNC talking points"?

You're a fucking idiot with no facts, no game, and no intellect.

Speaking of parroting the talking points that the DNC delivers to you, imagine how stupid you will self-identify with that avi when the DNC does an about face and admits that there never was any Trump-Russian collusion.

And you will be left with even more egg on your face than you are after your last post.


Of course, it will in no way lower anyone's opinion of you.
You've managed that already.

What rock have you been living under?

The Trump Russian investigation turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION last week on May 19, 2017. They don't turn a congressional probe into a criminial investigation unless there is solid evidence of wrong-doing.

"Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Thursday said it’s clear that after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein briefed the Senate on the investigation into Russian involvement in the presidential election that it has become a criminal probe.

“The shock to the body is that this is now a criminal investigation,” Graham (R-SC) told reporters moments after he exited the Senate chamber.

He said now that it has become a criminal investigation instead of an counterintelligence probe Congress may be impeded in carrying out its own examinations.

“You’ve got a special counsel who has prosecutorial powers now, and I think we in Congress have to be very careful not to interfere,” Graham said. “Public access to this is probably going to be very limited now. It’s going to really limit what the public will know about this.”
http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/lindsey-graham-russia-probe-now-a-criminal-investigation/

"The Trump Russian investigation turned into a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION last week "



Is that what the DNC told you?




1. "Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” former Obama Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told host Chuck Todd that he was not aware of evidence showing the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russian government to influence last November’s presidential election.

TODD: Well, that’s an important revelation at this point.

Let me ask you this, does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia officials?

CLAPPER: We did not include evidence in our report, and I say our, that’s NSA, FBI and CIA with my office, the director of national intelligence that had anything — that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was there no evidence of that including in our report.

TODD: I understand that, but does it exist?

CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.

TODD: If it existed, it would have been in the report?

CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government. But at the time, we had no evidence of such collusion.


TODD: But at this point, what’s not proven is the idea of collusion?

CLAPPER: that’s correct."
Fmr Obama DNI Clapper: Evidence of Trump-Russian Collusion Doesn't Exist to His 'Knowledge' - Breitbart









2. "While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states." FBI, NSA: 'No evidence' Russia manipulated US vote tallying - The American Mirror







3. Democrat Feinstein, too







4. Here is 'proud Hillary voter,' Alan Dershowitz, protesting that 'there is no crime.'

Dershowitz: 'There is no statute that has been violated....firing Comey is [Trump's] constitutional and statutory right...'







5. Democrat Joe Manchin: no evidence






6.Maxine Waters: no evidence


Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia
Waters Admits No Proof Exists Of Collusion Between Trump Campaign, Russia


7. Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations




Comey Says He Was Never Pressured By Anyone To Stop Investigations

Comey Said He Had NOT Been Pressured To End Any Investigation, Debunks Leftist Media Narrative

That doesn't say what you think it says. God you're dumb.
Make sure you get a comfy seat this week when Comey ends Tramp's career by saying he tried to interfere with the investigation and that he didn't say , as Tramp claimed, that he's not under investigation.
This is what happens when you're a pathological liar.

"Make sure you get a comfy seat this week when Comey ends Tramp's career by saying he tried to interfere with the investigation and that he didn't say , as Tramp claimed, that he's not under investigation."


Oh, man.....is this gonna be fun!!!!!!

I'm about to rip one who is one a new one!!!!!!

Comey testimony:

Three things asked by President Trump

1.Will you be loyal

2. Can you please let the Flynn thing go...he's a good guy, and he's been treated unfairly (just what Trump told the press the next day)

and

3. Will you please tell the public what you've told me three times...that I'm not the subject of any investigation.

"You ever wonder why, of those three things, the only one that has never been leaked is the fact that the President was never under personal investigation?"

Sen. Rubio questions Comey on leaks


Comey did exactly the opposite of what you claimed he'd do!!!!
a. He stated that Trump told him to go ahead with the investigation...and
b. Stated that he did just what Trump said he did: told him three times that he wasn't the subject of any investigation!!!!!!


Ready to admit that you're an imbecile???????




I feel soooo bad for all of you Trump-haters....again, your hopes and dreams smashed like so many Faberge eggs.

Every time, 'You wait and see....now....Trump's gonna be exposed, charged, impeached...."
Now, Comey leaves you jilted again.



You guys are like the ugly guy who keeps getting turned down by the girls you ask to the prom.




A beautiful day.

 

[charwin95]

LOLOL

If you never lie, how on Earth do you explain you claiming the L.A. Times says illegals who get a license will be registered to vote when in reality, the L.A. Times explicitly states illegals who get a license will NOT be registered to vote?

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not.​

So who's lying? You claiming the L.A. Times saying illegals can register to vote? Or the L.A. Times who says they can't register to vote?

I didn't 'claim' anything, you moron.

I quoted the exact words of the LATimes.

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Now....which are more: Ugly or stupid???


Speak up!

Ok, then highlight the words, "illegal aliens" in that L.A. Times article you lie about where you falsely claim it states illegal aliens will be registered to vote....

Watch me ram your words down your throat:

1. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference. Voter advocates say this two-step process could disenfranchise thousands of voters, especially those who still want to vote in the Republican Party's closed presidential primary."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



2. "More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says"
More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says




I win again, huh?

No your not winning anything from your lies.
1. Read what you just posted. You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola.
We are taking about DMV illegals registrations which has nothing to do what you are talking about.
2. So what are you trying to say?

1. "No your (sic) not winning anything from your lies."
Of course I am....that's what brings you slithering up out of the sewer.


2. "You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola (sic)."
No, as the quote says...'undocumented immigrants,' ...i.e., illegal aliens.
Now stop lying.
They go to the DMV for a bogus Democrat-driver's license and "they will be registered" to vote/

3. "So what are you trying to say?"
You should seek medical advice about that short term memory loss....but, can help:


Here's what I'm trying to say:

1. For Democrats, their power is more important than the health and safety of this nation.

2. Toward that end, Democrats are willing to remove border security, steal from the taxpayer fisc, and turn a blind eye to criminality.


3. Pretending to honor the American birthright, the election of our leaders, Democrats make bogus 'identification' available to so as to allow illegal aliens, who they support via stealing said taxpaid finances, voting privileges.


4. As there are upwards of 50 million illegal aliens residing here, due to Democrat negligence, even a small portion of same following Obama's instructions, and illegally voting, account for what Democrats claim is a popular vote victory.


5. Dunces like you tacitly admit that Democrat controlled states and voting precincts allow this illegal voting, in refusing to guess how many places that provide bogus 'identification provided a margin of victory to the Democrat candidate.


6. As polls prove that Democrats admit that that want illegal aliens to vote, lying sacks of offal...i.e., you,....pretend that this is not the case.


Clear enough?



Oh....and you should work on your spelling and grammar.
M'kay?

You went around and around at the end you are still a liar.
Do you expect me to read any of that coming from a liar? Wipe that foaming off your mouth.

 

[charwin95]

Ok, then highlight the words, "illegal aliens" in that L.A. Times article you lie about where you falsely claim it states illegal aliens will be registered to vote....

Watch me ram your words down your throat:

1. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference. Voter advocates say this two-step process could disenfranchise thousands of voters, especially those who still want to vote in the Republican Party's closed presidential primary."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



2. "More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says"
More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says




I win again, huh?

No your not winning anything from your lies.
1. Read what you just posted. You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola.
We are taking about DMV illegals registrations which has nothing to do what you are talking about.
2. So what are you trying to say?

1. "No your (sic) not winning anything from your lies."
Of course I am....that's what brings you slithering up out of the sewer.


2. "You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola (sic)."
No, as the quote says...'undocumented immigrants,' ...i.e., illegal aliens.
Now stop lying.
They go to the DMV for a bogus Democrat-driver's license and "they will be registered" to vote/

3. "So what are you trying to say?"
You should seek medical advice about that short term memory loss....but, can help:


Here's what I'm trying to say:

1. For Democrats, their power is more important than the health and safety of this nation.

2. Toward that end, Democrats are willing to remove border security, steal from the taxpayer fisc, and turn a blind eye to criminality.


3. Pretending to honor the American birthright, the election of our leaders, Democrats make bogus 'identification' available to so as to allow illegal aliens, who they support via stealing said taxpaid finances, voting privileges.


4. As there are upwards of 50 million illegal aliens residing here, due to Democrat negligence, even a small portion of same following Obama's instructions, and illegally voting, account for what Democrats claim is a popular vote victory.


5. Dunces like you tacitly admit that Democrat controlled states and voting precincts allow this illegal voting, in refusing to guess how many places that provide bogus 'identification provided a margin of victory to the Democrat candidate.


6. As polls prove that Democrats admit that that want illegal aliens to vote, lying sacks of offal...i.e., you,....pretend that this is not the case.


Clear enough?



Oh....and you should work on your spelling and grammar.
M'kay?

What you're "saying" is all untrue. So, what you're saying is you're a liar.

I never lie.

That's why you're here: by revealing the scam, the Democrat plans to infect and direct our elections with masses of mercenaries from beyond our border, I've wounded you and every supporter of the scheme.


You are either
1. a true believer in taking over our country

or

2. are incensed at what the thread reveals, as it destroys your worldview.



In either case.....
.....excellent.

Yes you are my dear. Most of your post are lies.

 

[Seawytch]

Yup, you're right...and wrong. I knew who I was responding to even if my phone doesn't.

1. I accept that tortuous apology

2. I provided the conclusions of experts as to the underground population of illegal aliens.
As I pointed out, a small percent of that number easily accounts for the popular vote victory that Bill's wife claims.

3. I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

The experts like the Department of Homeland Security? They say 11.5 million.

[The count of immigrants in the country illegally is an estimate, but several estimates put it in the same ballpark — and it's the 11 million ballpark, nowhere near 30 million. The Pew Research Center puts it at 11.3 million (a number that has held relatively steady for years, by its estimate, and is down by nearly 1 million from a recent peak in 2007). As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million. Trump has in fact made the 30 million claim before, and PolitiFact shot him down, labeling it "pants on fire," finding other independent estimates that were in the 11 to 12 million range. — Danielle Kurtzleben]

Fact Check: Donald Trump's Speech On Immigration

And Politifact rated it

Donald Trump wrongly says the number of illegal immigrants is 30 million or higher

You really can't be this stupid.....can you ???

11 million in 2003.....millions more every year....

....and the number is still 11 million.



Amazing how indelible your indoctrination is.
That level of misunderstanding is like believing that purchasing an airline ticket makes one able to flap their arms and fly.



On top of it, the 'expert' you quote is a Liberal stenographer:
PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets "fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups".PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia


The St. PetersburgTampa Bay Times, which started PolitiFact in conjunction with the Congressional Quarterly, is a traditionally liberal paper. We note that PolitiFact's stories appear to damage Republicans far more often than Democrats despite the fact that PF tends to choose about as many stories dealing with Republicans as for Democrats. If the selection process was blind then either proportions should be approximately even or else the party with worse ratings should receive more ratings overall according to what PolitiFact lists as its selection criteria. Plus our independent research helps confirm the hypothesis. PolitiFact Bias: About PolitiFact Bias/FAQ


"The Tampa Bay Times, which produces the PolitFact Truth-o-Meter, has not endorsed a single Republican candidate this century for any of the three most important positions on the Florida election ballot. Accordingly, the Times scores a “Pants on Fire” for its lack of objectivity, according to an extensive analysis by Media Trackers Florida.

Since 2000, the Times has issued 10 endorsements in elections for U.S. President, U.S. Senate, and Florida Governor. Nine of the 10 endorsements went to Democrats, with the sole exception being theTimes’ endorsement of Democrat-leaning Independent Charlie Crist in the 2010 U.S. Senate contest." PolitiFact Parent Tampa Bay Times Scores ‘Pants on Fire’ for Partisan Bias - Media Trackers



PolitiFact’s liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)
PolitiFact's liberal bias, yet again (Arizona law; Climategate)




Pleeeezzzzz get your head out of wherever you left it.

As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million.

Drumph was "pants on fire" for saying 30 million. You went well beyond that. You're lying more than "pants on fire". NASA is going to start tracking you as contributing to climate change.

I sense that you are beginning to realize how stupid you appear.

[Pew projected this population reached at least 11 million as of March 2005. Unauthorized immigrant population stable for half a decade]

For a decade now, no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Pew, the most-quoted source, has used the figure since 2005. Some Homeland Security references approximating that number go back to 2003."
How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?




11 million in 2003....
...still 11 million?????

You're feelin' pretty dumb right about now, huh?

Nope. I'm feeling supported by facts, unlike you.

As of January 2012, the Department of Homeland Security put the count at 11.4 million.

You lied more than Drumph and he was "pants on fire". Lying more than Drumph is quite an accomplishment. You shouldn't be proud though.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I didn't 'claim' anything, you moron.

I quoted the exact words of the LATimes.

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Now....which are more: Ugly or stupid???


Speak up!

Ok, then highlight the words, "illegal aliens" in that L.A. Times article you lie about where you falsely claim it states illegal aliens will be registered to vote....

Watch me ram your words down your throat:

1. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference. Voter advocates say this two-step process could disenfranchise thousands of voters, especially those who still want to vote in the Republican Party's closed presidential primary."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



2. "More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says"
More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says




I win again, huh?

No your not winning anything from your lies.
1. Read what you just posted. You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola.
We are taking about DMV illegals registrations which has nothing to do what you are talking about.
2. So what are you trying to say?

1. "No your (sic) not winning anything from your lies."
Of course I am....that's what brings you slithering up out of the sewer.


2. "You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola (sic)."
No, as the quote says...'undocumented immigrants,' ...i.e., illegal aliens.
Now stop lying.
They go to the DMV for a bogus Democrat-driver's license and "they will be registered" to vote/

3. "So what are you trying to say?"
You should seek medical advice about that short term memory loss....but, can help:


Here's what I'm trying to say:

1. For Democrats, their power is more important than the health and safety of this nation.

2. Toward that end, Democrats are willing to remove border security, steal from the taxpayer fisc, and turn a blind eye to criminality.


3. Pretending to honor the American birthright, the election of our leaders, Democrats make bogus 'identification' available to so as to allow illegal aliens, who they support via stealing said taxpaid finances, voting privileges.


4. As there are upwards of 50 million illegal aliens residing here, due to Democrat negligence, even a small portion of same following Obama's instructions, and illegally voting, account for what Democrats claim is a popular vote victory.


5. Dunces like you tacitly admit that Democrat controlled states and voting precincts allow this illegal voting, in refusing to guess how many places that provide bogus 'identification provided a margin of victory to the Democrat candidate.


6. As polls prove that Democrats admit that that want illegal aliens to vote, lying sacks of offal...i.e., you,....pretend that this is not the case.


Clear enough?



Oh....and you should work on your spelling and grammar.
M'kay?

You went around and around at the end you are still a liar.
Do you expect me to read any of that coming from a liar? Wipe that foaming off your mouth.

I love it!


I provide dispositive links, proving....once again, that you're a loser....and your counter is:
"Do you expect me to read any of that..."

Of course you read it....you're a liar!
And....you had no ability to dispute any of it.


Soooo.....I win, and you remain a loser.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Watch me ram your words down your throat:

1. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference. Voter advocates say this two-step process could disenfranchise thousands of voters, especially those who still want to vote in the Republican Party's closed presidential primary."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



2. "More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says"
More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says




I win again, huh?

No your not winning anything from your lies.
1. Read what you just posted. You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola.
We are taking about DMV illegals registrations which has nothing to do what you are talking about.
2. So what are you trying to say?

1. "No your (sic) not winning anything from your lies."
Of course I am....that's what brings you slithering up out of the sewer.


2. "You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola (sic)."
No, as the quote says...'undocumented immigrants,' ...i.e., illegal aliens.
Now stop lying.
They go to the DMV for a bogus Democrat-driver's license and "they will be registered" to vote/

3. "So what are you trying to say?"
You should seek medical advice about that short term memory loss....but, can help:


Here's what I'm trying to say:

1. For Democrats, their power is more important than the health and safety of this nation.

2. Toward that end, Democrats are willing to remove border security, steal from the taxpayer fisc, and turn a blind eye to criminality.


3. Pretending to honor the American birthright, the election of our leaders, Democrats make bogus 'identification' available to so as to allow illegal aliens, who they support via stealing said taxpaid finances, voting privileges.


4. As there are upwards of 50 million illegal aliens residing here, due to Democrat negligence, even a small portion of same following Obama's instructions, and illegally voting, account for what Democrats claim is a popular vote victory.


5. Dunces like you tacitly admit that Democrat controlled states and voting precincts allow this illegal voting, in refusing to guess how many places that provide bogus 'identification provided a margin of victory to the Democrat candidate.


6. As polls prove that Democrats admit that that want illegal aliens to vote, lying sacks of offal...i.e., you,....pretend that this is not the case.


Clear enough?



Oh....and you should work on your spelling and grammar.
M'kay?

What you're "saying" is all untrue. So, what you're saying is you're a liar.

I never lie.

That's why you're here: by revealing the scam, the Democrat plans to infect and direct our elections with masses of mercenaries from beyond our border, I've wounded you and every supporter of the scheme.


You are either
1. a true believer in taking over our country

or

2. are incensed at what the thread reveals, as it destroys your worldview.



In either case.....
.....excellent.

Yes you are my dear. Most of your post are lies.

How could they be lies since everything is linked and sourced.....like this:

1. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two


2. "With the law about to hit the two-year mark, the California Department of Motor Vehicles announced that 806,000 illegal aliens have been granted driver licenses, according to the Bay Area’s Mercury News. 14,000 of those licenses were issued in November of this year.

In 2017, new motor voter law AB 1461 will go into effect, automatically registering most licensed California drivers to vote. As the Mercury News points out, concerns have been raised about the crossover of AB60 illegal alien licensees being illegally registered to vote as a result. Some lawmakers have claimed there are safeguards against such a case."
California Licenses 800K Illegal Aliens as Motor Voter Law Looms - Breitbart


3. DMV licensed 800,000 undocumented immigrants under 2-year-old law
California driver licenses given to 800,000 undocumented immigrants



4. In program’s first year, nearly half of California’s driver’s licenses went to undocumented

In program’s first year, nearly half of California’s driver’s licenses went to undocumented – Orange County Register



5. "More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says"
More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says



All lies, huh?

You moron.