Update: The Illegal Alien Vote

[Seawytch]

Ok, then highlight the words, "illegal aliens" in that L.A. Times article you lie about where you falsely claim it states illegal aliens will be registered to vote....

Watch me ram your words down your throat:

1. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference. Voter advocates say this two-step process could disenfranchise thousands of voters, especially those who still want to vote in the Republican Party's closed presidential primary."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



2. "More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says"
More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says




I win again, huh?

No your not winning anything from your lies.
1. Read what you just posted. You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola.
We are taking about DMV illegals registrations which has nothing to do what you are talking about.
2. So what are you trying to say?

1. "No your (sic) not winning anything from your lies."
Of course I am....that's what brings you slithering up out of the sewer.


2. "You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola (sic)."
No, as the quote says...'undocumented immigrants,' ...i.e., illegal aliens.
Now stop lying.
They go to the DMV for a bogus Democrat-driver's license and "they will be registered" to vote/

3. "So what are you trying to say?"
You should seek medical advice about that short term memory loss....but, can help:


Here's what I'm trying to say:

1. For Democrats, their power is more important than the health and safety of this nation.

2. Toward that end, Democrats are willing to remove border security, steal from the taxpayer fisc, and turn a blind eye to criminality.


3. Pretending to honor the American birthright, the election of our leaders, Democrats make bogus 'identification' available to so as to allow illegal aliens, who they support via stealing said taxpaid finances, voting privileges.


4. As there are upwards of 50 million illegal aliens residing here, due to Democrat negligence, even a small portion of same following Obama's instructions, and illegally voting, account for what Democrats claim is a popular vote victory.


5. Dunces like you tacitly admit that Democrat controlled states and voting precincts allow this illegal voting, in refusing to guess how many places that provide bogus 'identification provided a margin of victory to the Democrat candidate.


6. As polls prove that Democrats admit that that want illegal aliens to vote, lying sacks of offal...i.e., you,....pretend that this is not the case.


Clear enough?



Oh....and you should work on your spelling and grammar.
M'kay?

What you're "saying" is all untrue. So, what you're saying is you're a liar.

I never lie.

That's why you're here: by revealing the scam, the Democrat plans to infect and direct our elections with masses of mercenaries from beyond our border, I've wounded you and every supporter of the scheme.


You are either
1. a true believer in taking over our country

or

2. are incensed at what the thread reveals, as it destroys your worldview.



In either case.....
.....excellent.

You are lying when you say you never lie.

Easily disproved "misstatement" of yours...that there are "50 million illegals" living in the US. Patently false.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Watch me ram your words down your throat:

1. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.

But it's a little more complicated than that.

Unless voters also stop to answer questions at a computer terminal in another room, they will be registered as having no party preference. Voter advocates say this two-step process could disenfranchise thousands of voters, especially those who still want to vote in the Republican Party's closed presidential primary."
Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



2. "More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says"
More than half of California drivers' licenses went to undocumented immigrants, NumbersUSA says




I win again, huh?

No your not winning anything from your lies.
1. Read what you just posted. You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola.
We are taking about DMV illegals registrations which has nothing to do what you are talking about.
2. So what are you trying to say?

1. "No your (sic) not winning anything from your lies."
Of course I am....that's what brings you slithering up out of the sewer.


2. "You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola (sic)."
No, as the quote says...'undocumented immigrants,' ...i.e., illegal aliens.
Now stop lying.
They go to the DMV for a bogus Democrat-driver's license and "they will be registered" to vote/

3. "So what are you trying to say?"
You should seek medical advice about that short term memory loss....but, can help:


Here's what I'm trying to say:

1. For Democrats, their power is more important than the health and safety of this nation.

2. Toward that end, Democrats are willing to remove border security, steal from the taxpayer fisc, and turn a blind eye to criminality.


3. Pretending to honor the American birthright, the election of our leaders, Democrats make bogus 'identification' available to so as to allow illegal aliens, who they support via stealing said taxpaid finances, voting privileges.


4. As there are upwards of 50 million illegal aliens residing here, due to Democrat negligence, even a small portion of same following Obama's instructions, and illegally voting, account for what Democrats claim is a popular vote victory.


5. Dunces like you tacitly admit that Democrat controlled states and voting precincts allow this illegal voting, in refusing to guess how many places that provide bogus 'identification provided a margin of victory to the Democrat candidate.


6. As polls prove that Democrats admit that that want illegal aliens to vote, lying sacks of offal...i.e., you,....pretend that this is not the case.


Clear enough?



Oh....and you should work on your spelling and grammar.
M'kay?

What you're "saying" is all untrue. So, what you're saying is you're a liar.

I never lie.

That's why you're here: by revealing the scam, the Democrat plans to infect and direct our elections with masses of mercenaries from beyond our border, I've wounded you and every supporter of the scheme.


You are either
1. a true believer in taking over our country

or

2. are incensed at what the thread reveals, as it destroys your worldview.



In either case.....
.....excellent.

You are lying when you say you never lie.

Easily disproved "misstatement" of yours...that there are "50 million illegals" living in the US. Patently false.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

First and foremost.... I never lie.

Second, your error: I didn't say it....experts did.


But....let's review the numbers for you:

1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.


2. Determining the number of illegals is significant. Democrats will want to pretend that it is the lowest estimate....
If there are 12 million or so illegals living here, well...then it's easier to deny that they represent Bill's wife's supposed victory in the popular vote.
But.....if it's a far greater number.......

And it is.


Watch this:

3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes

"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.

When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research




Increased the totals by 13%!!!
Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:

Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.

And that isn't counting family members brought in under the law.

But....ask a lying Liberal....and the number is still 11 million.



4. So....is it still 11 million?.....or is the number of illegal aliens to over 40 million?



5. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.

"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.



Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.

He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.


Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research

....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!

Gettin' nervous?


6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.

The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.



True?

So.....There may be as many as 60 to 80 million illegal aliens occupying territory in this country.

7. And they vote.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.


Have we seen that sort of voting by illegals before?
...remember the Old Dominion study?

"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
We've got about a half to three quarters of a million illegal votes accounted for.




But....if 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now

a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty ()

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe more than six and a half percent went to the polls???
Maybe..... 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????


You bet they did.



Destroyed your post, huh?

Excellent.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
http://www.investors.com/politics/e...llions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Never forget that California has LITERALLY institutionalized voter fraud by illegal aliens. Illegals are encouraged to vote and protected from prosecution by the scofflaw state.

{This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person. The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.}

Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

California openly and actively encourages illegal aliens to vote, and automatically registers them to do so while assuring them that not recourse will be sought against illegal voting.

Millions of illegals vote in California every election, with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
http://www.investors.com/politics/e...llions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Never forget that California has LITERALLY institutionalized voter fraud by illegal aliens. Illegals are encouraged to vote and protected from prosecution by the scofflaw state.

{This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person. The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.}

Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

California openly and actively encourages illegal aliens to vote, and automatically registers them to do so while assuring them that not recourse will be sought against illegal voting.

Millions of illegals vote in California every election, with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state.

The scam is evident and transparent, contrary to the permutations of 'Is not, isssss nooootttttttt!!!' posts by the Left's apparatchiks.


They know it, they hate it being revealed, and that's why this thread has gone on so long.


You can practically here them mumbling 'must-defend-party......'

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
http://www.investors.com/politics/e...llions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Never forget that California has LITERALLY institutionalized voter fraud by illegal aliens. Illegals are encouraged to vote and protected from prosecution by the scofflaw state.

{This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person. The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.}

Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

California openly and actively encourages illegal aliens to vote, and automatically registers them to do so while assuring them that not recourse will be sought against illegal voting.

Millions of illegals vote in California every election, with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state.

".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
http://www.investors.com/politics/e...llions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Never forget that California has LITERALLY institutionalized voter fraud by illegal aliens. Illegals are encouraged to vote and protected from prosecution by the scofflaw state.

{This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person. The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.}

Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

California openly and actively encourages illegal aliens to vote, and automatically registers them to do so while assuring them that not recourse will be sought against illegal voting.

Millions of illegals vote in California every election, with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state.

The scam is evident and transparent, contrary to the permutations of 'Is not, isssss nooootttttttt!!!' posts by the Left's apparatchiks.


They know it, they hate it being revealed, and that's why this thread has gone on so long.


You can practically here them mumbling 'must-defend-party......'

California is OPENLY subverting the American election system. Forget Russia, what California has done to corrupt federal elections completely dwarfs even the most serious allegations made against the Russians. And unlike those, I have proof - in actual California statute, that they are openly subverting the election process.

 

[Uncensored2008]

[


".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[Faun]

No your not winning anything from your lies.
1. Read what you just posted. You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola.
We are taking about DMV illegals registrations which has nothing to do what you are talking about.
2. So what are you trying to say?

1. "No your (sic) not winning anything from your lies."
Of course I am....that's what brings you slithering up out of the sewer.


2. "You are talking about legal American citizen which is not part of this crapola (sic)."
No, as the quote says...'undocumented immigrants,' ...i.e., illegal aliens.
Now stop lying.
They go to the DMV for a bogus Democrat-driver's license and "they will be registered" to vote/

3. "So what are you trying to say?"
You should seek medical advice about that short term memory loss....but, can help:


Here's what I'm trying to say:

1. For Democrats, their power is more important than the health and safety of this nation.

2. Toward that end, Democrats are willing to remove border security, steal from the taxpayer fisc, and turn a blind eye to criminality.


3. Pretending to honor the American birthright, the election of our leaders, Democrats make bogus 'identification' available to so as to allow illegal aliens, who they support via stealing said taxpaid finances, voting privileges.


4. As there are upwards of 50 million illegal aliens residing here, due to Democrat negligence, even a small portion of same following Obama's instructions, and illegally voting, account for what Democrats claim is a popular vote victory.


5. Dunces like you tacitly admit that Democrat controlled states and voting precincts allow this illegal voting, in refusing to guess how many places that provide bogus 'identification provided a margin of victory to the Democrat candidate.


6. As polls prove that Democrats admit that that want illegal aliens to vote, lying sacks of offal...i.e., you,....pretend that this is not the case.


Clear enough?



Oh....and you should work on your spelling and grammar.
M'kay?

What you're "saying" is all untrue. So, what you're saying is you're a liar.

I never lie.

That's why you're here: by revealing the scam, the Democrat plans to infect and direct our elections with masses of mercenaries from beyond our border, I've wounded you and every supporter of the scheme.


You are either
1. a true believer in taking over our country

or

2. are incensed at what the thread reveals, as it destroys your worldview.



In either case.....
.....excellent.

You are lying when you say you never lie.

Easily disproved "misstatement" of yours...that there are "50 million illegals" living in the US. Patently false.

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.

First and foremost.... I never lie.

Second, your error: I didn't say it....experts did.


But....let's review the numbers for you:

1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.


2. Determining the number of illegals is significant. Democrats will want to pretend that it is the lowest estimate....
If there are 12 million or so illegals living here, well...then it's easier to deny that they represent Bill's wife's supposed victory in the popular vote.
But.....if it's a far greater number.......

And it is.


Watch this:

3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes

"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.

When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research




Increased the totals by 13%!!!
Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:

Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.

And that isn't counting family members brought in under the law.

But....ask a lying Liberal....and the number is still 11 million.



4. So....is it still 11 million?.....or is the number of illegal aliens to over 40 million?



5. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.

"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.



Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.

He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.


Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research

....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!

Gettin' nervous?


6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.

The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.



True?

So.....There may be as many as 60 to 80 million illegal aliens occupying territory in this country.

7. And they vote.

What percentage of that number would have to vote for Bill's wife's total number to be greater than that of Americans who voted for Trump?
4%.....5%........Looks like a sure thing, doesn't it: Donald Trump won both the electoral college and the popular vote if we discount illegal alien votes.


Have we seen that sort of voting by illegals before?
...remember the Old Dominion study?

"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
We've got about a half to three quarters of a million illegal votes accounted for.




But....if 6.4 percent of noncitizens in the United States voted last time
....and now

a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty ()

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe more than six and a half percent went to the polls???
Maybe..... 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????


You bet they did.



Destroyed your post, huh?

Excellent.

No, you destroyed your own credibility. But since you've already done that in the past, what difference does it make now?

 

[PoliticalChic]

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".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Can't we corral Obama first???

After all...he told the illegals that he invited it, to vote.

 

[Faun]

Gee.....every time I mention that millions of the votes for Bill's wife were cast by illegal aliens following Obama's telling them to vote, the Left's acolytes become enraged.

The fact is, a defining characteristic of the indoctrinated is to reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma of the day.
Case in point: only when illegal alien votes are 'counted' did Bill's wife get more votes than Donald Trump.
Yup: the Left's policies were rejected.....by Americans.


When I noted that, one of the usual suspects wrote this:
"How many illegal votes.....I say that you made that crap up...."
The Left's Assault on America Writ Large.


Well, even the least among us deserve an education....so, here it is:


1. First and foremost is this: Liberals have been well trained never to question the uttering's of their elites, no matter how obvious the fallacious and transparent the fabrications.
If it is day and Liberal establishment says it is night, they have been disciplined to nod and agree the fabrication.

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?


....the indoctrinated reject any reason, logic or experience if it interferes with their dogma.





2. Of course, for Democrats/Liberals, illegal immigrants, or at least the votes they cast, is their life's blood! Damage to our culture, or economy, our safety, our worker's prosperity is second to the increase in power to the Democrats.

"A Rasmussen Reports poll earlier this year found that 53% of the Democratic Party supports letting illegals vote, even though it's against the law. It's pretty clear why."
http://www.investors.com/politics/e...llions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/



There are far more than 11 million Illegal immigrants residing in our nation.....and they cast millions of votes for the Left's candidate.

Proof....coming right up.

Never forget that California has LITERALLY institutionalized voter fraud by illegal aliens. Illegals are encouraged to vote and protected from prosecution by the scofflaw state.

{This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person. The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.}

Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

California openly and actively encourages illegal aliens to vote, and automatically registers them to do so while assuring them that not recourse will be sought against illegal voting.

Millions of illegals vote in California every election, with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state.

The scam is evident and transparent, contrary to the permutations of 'Is not, isssss nooootttttttt!!!' posts by the Left's apparatchiks.


They know it, they hate it being revealed, and that's why this thread has gone on so long.


You can practically here them mumbling 'must-defend-party......'

California is OPENLY subverting the American election system. Forget Russia, what California has done to corrupt federal elections completely dwarfs even the most serious allegations made against the Russians. And unlike those, I have proof - in actual California statute, that they are openly subverting the election process.

What a pity you can't prove your hallucinations.

 

[Faun]

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".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Can't we corral Obama first???

After all...he told the illegals that he invited it, to vote.

More lies. He told U.S. citizens to vote.

Obama: "what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you're not just speaking for yourself. You're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote."​

 

[Uncensored2008]

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".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Can't we corral Obama first???

After all...he told the illegals that he invited it, to vote.

Words are not actions. By signing a law that directly promotes and protects federal crimes, Brown has engage in a conspiracy to corrupt the American electoral process. He and Kamala Harris belong in prison.

Even the most outrageous allegations the left have made against Russia are minuscule compared to the open and officially sanctioned election fraud perpetrated by the State of California on behalf of the democratic party. This isn't a theory, or just innuendo, it is fact written into law by these corrupt pigs.

 

[meaner gene]

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".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Can't we corral Obama first???

After all...he told the illegals that he invited it, to vote.

Obama never invited illegals to vote, In fact, when he talked to Gina what's her name, from jane the virgin. Obama specifically said that illegals couldn't vote. I saw the video and read the transcript.

 

[Faun]

[


".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Can't we corral Obama first???

After all...he told the illegals that he invited it, to vote.

Words are not actions. By signing a law that directly promotes and protects federal crimes, Brown has engage in a conspiracy to corrupt the American electoral process. He and Kamala Harris belong in prison.

Even the most outrageous allegations the left have made against Russia are minuscule compared to the open and officially sanctioned election fraud perpetrated by the State of California on behalf of the democratic party. This isn't a theory, or just innuendo, it is fact written into law by these corrupt pigs.

The law does not protect federal crimes. California automatically registers U.S. citizens to vote when they go to a DMV. The portion of the law you cited merely protects folks who were not eligible to vote but were registered inadvertently due to no fault of their own. It doesn't mean they get to vote if they're caught; it means the state assumes the responsibility for registering them when they shouldn't have.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Obama never invited illegals to vote, In fact, when he talked to Gina what's her name, from jane the virgin. Obama specifically said that illegals couldn't vote. I saw the video and read the transcript.

Regardless, the democrat controlled Mecca of leftism that is California openly promotes voting by illegals and protects those who vote illegally from prosecution. The fascist state is deliberately corrupting the American electoral system.

 

[meaner gene]

Regardless, the democrat controlled Mecca of leftism that is California openly promotes voting by illegals and protects those who vote illegally from prosecution. The fascist state is deliberately corrupting the American electoral system.

That chic claimed Obama told illegals they could vote,

That couldn't be firther from the truth.

RODRIGUEZ: Your entire community.

OBAMA: … who may not have a voice. Who can’t legally vote. But they’re counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.

Nobody, including california, is either encouraging or allowing illegals to vote.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Can't we corral Obama first???

After all...he told the illegals that he invited it, to vote.

Words are not actions. By signing a law that directly promotes and protects federal crimes, Brown has engage in a conspiracy to corrupt the American electoral process. He and Kamala Harris belong in prison.

Even the most outrageous allegations the left have made against Russia are minuscule compared to the open and officially sanctioned election fraud perpetrated by the State of California on behalf of the democratic party. This isn't a theory, or just innuendo, it is fact written into law by these corrupt pigs.

The law does not protect federal crimes. California automatically registers U.S. citizens to vote when they go to a DMV. The portion of the law you cited merely protects folks who were not eligible to vote but were registered inadvertently due to no fault of their own. It doesn't mean they get to vote if they're caught; it means the state assumes the responsibility for registering them when they shouldn't have.

There is nothing inadvertent about it. The state openly registers illegals to vote and then protects them from prosecution. By providing the sanction of the state, the persons who are voting illegally by the millions, are immune to federal prosecution.

But Jerry Brown isn't, nor is Kamala Harris, Fabian Nunez, or the other fascist scum who openly hacked our electoral process and perverted the system.

 

[Faun]

Obama never invited illegals to vote, In fact, when he talked to Gina what's her name, from jane the virgin. Obama specifically said that illegals couldn't vote. I saw the video and read the transcript.

Regardless, the democrat controlled Mecca of leftism that is California openly promotes voting by illegals and protects those who vote illegally from prosecution. The fascist state is deliberately corrupting the American electoral system.

California is not openly promoting illegals to vote. You're a nut, remember?

Here's how California's new voter registration law will work

Although citizens are currently offered the opportunity to register to vote at the DMV under an earlier federal law, noncitizens are not. That will continue under the new registration process.​

 

[meaner gene]

There is nothing inadvertent about it. The state openly registers illegals to vote and then protects them from prosecution..

Geez,.,.. another brain dead idiot. California spent a ton of money on their DMV computers to make sure that illegal aliens, who have a special license designation, can't be used for voter registration. Their illegal status is a scarlet letter "A" in the database. Somebody at the DMV can't even override the designation. So it's pretty much foolproof.

 

[Faun]

[


".....with the blessing and protection of the democrats running the state."

And the promises of the snake, their President, that no one would come after them for voting.

Jerry Brown should be arrested by US Marshall's for federal election tampering and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Can't we corral Obama first???

After all...he told the illegals that he invited it, to vote.

Words are not actions. By signing a law that directly promotes and protects federal crimes, Brown has engage in a conspiracy to corrupt the American electoral process. He and Kamala Harris belong in prison.

Even the most outrageous allegations the left have made against Russia are minuscule compared to the open and officially sanctioned election fraud perpetrated by the State of California on behalf of the democratic party. This isn't a theory, or just innuendo, it is fact written into law by these corrupt pigs.

The law does not protect federal crimes. California automatically registers U.S. citizens to vote when they go to a DMV. The portion of the law you cited merely protects folks who were not eligible to vote but were registered inadvertently due to no fault of their own. It doesn't mean they get to vote if they're caught; it means the state assumes the responsibility for registering them when they shouldn't have.

There is nothing inadvertent about it. The state openly registers illegals to vote and then protects them from prosecution. By providing the sanction of the state, the persons who are voting illegally by the millions, are immune to federal prosecution.

But Jerry Brown isn't, nor is Kamala Harris, Fabian Nunez, or the other fascist scum who openly hacked our electoral process and perverted the system.

The state does not allow illegals to register. That should be evident to you by your inability to prove they do.