US adds massive 287,000 jobs in June.....Quite A Change From Bush's Fiasco

[Conservative65]

So you're still clueless as to how many entered the work force. Tsk tsk.

Nothing stopping you from actually making your point

But I already know it is bogus

All these jobs yet still millions more living on the dole. Contradictory yet you still believe it.

Now we are getting somewhere

Let's look at stagnant low end wage scales and how the taxpayer has to compensate for substandard wages

Put the blame where it belongs......with our beloved job creators

So the jobs Obama takes credit for creating weren't really good jobs yet he still takes credit for them? Got it.

I have a solution. Let those with little to no skills improve those skills and they'll get paid more. When they get paid what those skills are worth, no one owes them a subsidy to offset THEIR lack of skills.

Once again, you take a solution that will work for an individual worker but will not work for the 30 million who work and still need Government assistance

If it will work for one, it can work for anyone willing to do so.

If you think they need it, give them your money. MY money is for MY family not some piece of shit who won't provide for his own.

 

[IcebergSlim]

You deny 46 million Americans are on food stamps?
No wonder you vote Democrat, no concept of the real world.

So you don't go to any supermarket?

Seriously, were you born this fucking ignorant?

You're the one that can't bring yourself to admit record numbers have been on food stamps since OBAMA has been in office.

See

US adds massive 287,000 jobs in June.....Quite A Change From Bush's Fiasco

Yet you can't explain why so many MORE are still on food stamps. If jobs are being created as you claim, there is no need for the food stamps.

It's not me claiming that jobs are being created......it is BLS and ADP......

You've never been paid to think, have you....

So you disagree that unemployment is down and the number in the OP?

No.......and the evidence is in the numbers...

On what do you base your opinions?

 

[Conservative65]

Obamanomics:

Record 46 Million Americans Are on Food Stamps

Tuesday, 4 Sep 2012


Seriously......you're a fucking moron...

You deny 46 million Americans are on food stamps?
No wonder you vote Democrat, no concept of the real world.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/29SNAPcurrPP.pdf

43.5 according to those who actually administer the program.....

wtf,do you consider the "real world", Hondo?

OK, let's run with your 43 million.
That's 17% of America requiring food assistance in your "wonderful" economy.

Checkmate.

Very true

It's all because our nations "job creators" never delivered on their trickle down promises

If someone is being paid a wage equivalent to the value of their skills, what's wrong with that? If you have $7.25/hour skills and get paid $7.25/hour, why is that bad?

 

[Conservative65]

You're the one that can't bring yourself to admit record numbers have been on food stamps since OBAMA has been in office.

See

US adds massive 287,000 jobs in June.....Quite A Change From Bush's Fiasco

Yet you can't explain why so many MORE are still on food stamps. If jobs are being created as you claim, there is no need for the food stamps.

It's not me claiming that jobs are being created......it is BLS and ADP......

You've never been paid to think, have you....

So you disagree that unemployment is down and the number in the OP?

No.......and the evidence is in the numbers...

On what do you base your opinions?

So you lied? Typical of your kind.

 

[IcebergSlim]

The U.S. added 287,000 new jobs in June, according to the Labor Department report ...

Check who was holding the purse strings in congress during those years.

IceIce,

Do you think you have a point?

 

[IcebergSlim]

See

US adds massive 287,000 jobs in June.....Quite A Change From Bush's Fiasco

Yet you can't explain why so many MORE are still on food stamps. If jobs are being created as you claim, there is no need for the food stamps.

It's not me claiming that jobs are being created......it is BLS and ADP......

You've never been paid to think, have you....

So you disagree that unemployment is down and the number in the OP?

No.......and the evidence is in the numbers...

On what do you base your opinions?

So you lied? Typical of your kind.

I've got an idea......why don't you post my "lie"?

 

[rightwinger]

Nothing stopping you from actually making your point

But I already know it is bogus

All these jobs yet still millions more living on the dole. Contradictory yet you still believe it.

Now we are getting somewhere

Let's look at stagnant low end wage scales and how the taxpayer has to compensate for substandard wages

Put the blame where it belongs......with our beloved job creators

So the jobs Obama takes credit for creating weren't really good jobs yet he still takes credit for them? Got it.

I have a solution. Let those with little to no skills improve those skills and they'll get paid more. When they get paid what those skills are worth, no one owes them a subsidy to offset THEIR lack of skills.

Once again, you take a solution that will work for an individual worker but will not work for the 30 million who work and still need Government assistance

If it will work for one, it can work for anyone willing to do so.

If you think they need it, give them your money. MY money is for MY family not some piece of shit who won't provide for his own.

That is ridiculous

You think thirty million low wage workers have executive positions waiting for them if they would only buckle down and try harder?

 

[Kondor3]

If Obumble ever stops suddenly, the OP is going to have a very brown nose...

 

[rightwinger]

Tuesday, 4 Sep 2012


Seriously......you're a fucking moron...

You deny 46 million Americans are on food stamps?
No wonder you vote Democrat, no concept of the real world.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/29SNAPcurrPP.pdf

43.5 according to those who actually administer the program.....

wtf,do you consider the "real world", Hondo?

OK, let's run with your 43 million.
That's 17% of America requiring food assistance in your "wonderful" economy.

Checkmate.

Very true

It's all because our nations "job creators" never delivered on their trickle down promises

If someone is being paid a wage equivalent to the value of their skills,
what's wrong with that? If you have $7.25/hour skills and get paid $7.25/hour, why is that bad?

It goes way beyond minimum wage which is ridiculously low

It goes to jobs that pay $10 to $15 an hour that people used to be able to support a family on

 

[Conservative65]

All these jobs yet still millions more living on the dole. Contradictory yet you still believe it.

Now we are getting somewhere

Let's look at stagnant low end wage scales and how the taxpayer has to compensate for substandard wages

Put the blame where it belongs......with our beloved job creators

So the jobs Obama takes credit for creating weren't really good jobs yet he still takes credit for them? Got it.

I have a solution. Let those with little to no skills improve those skills and they'll get paid more. When they get paid what those skills are worth, no one owes them a subsidy to offset THEIR lack of skills.

Once again, you take a solution that will work for an individual worker but will not work for the 30 million who work and still need Government assistance

If it will work for one, it can work for anyone willing to do so.

If you think they need it, give them your money. MY money is for MY family not some piece of shit who won't provide for his own.

That is ridiculous

You think thirty million low wage workers have executive positions waiting for them if they would only buckle down and try harder?

It doesn't have to be an executive level position. I also don't think as long as people like you are willing to enable them to get something for nothing they want to do so.

 

[IcebergSlim]

The U.S. added 287,000 new jobs in June, according to the Labor Department report ...

MORE good news for HRC.

All these supposed jobs yet still millions more living on the dole than when Bush was President. If all the jobs are being created, why are more people relying on taxpayers to support them than before Obama was President?

Why don't you put up some numbers, provide the sources, and we can go over them -- 'k?

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Food stamps are not "the Dole"......the last major change to eligibility standards were made in 2003....

Now that you have posted that graph, you should have no problem telling me what happened to SNAP rolls between 2001 and 2009..

Please answer in the form of a percentage....

 

[Conservative65]

If Obumble ever stops suddenly, the OP is going to have a very brown nose...

The OP already does. It's not stuck up Obama's ass just close enough for the lips to touch it.

 

[HappyJoy]

All these jobs yet still millions more living on the dole. Contradictory yet you still believe it.

Now we are getting somewhere

Let's look at stagnant low end wage scales and how the taxpayer has to compensate for substandard wages

Put the blame where it belongs......with our beloved job creators

So the jobs Obama takes credit for creating weren't really good jobs yet he still takes credit for them? Got it.

I have a solution. Let those with little to no skills improve those skills and they'll get paid more. When they get paid what those skills are worth, no one owes them a subsidy to offset THEIR lack of skills.

Once again, you take a solution that will work for an individual worker but will not work for the 30 million who work and still need Government assistance

If it will work for one, it can work for anyone willing to do so.

If you think they need it, give them your money. MY money is for MY family not some piece of shit who won't provide for his own.

That is ridiculous

You think thirty million low wage workers have executive positions waiting for them if they would only buckle down and try harder?

That's not fair, after all Conservative65 is now head newspaper boy. If he can do it, for sure anyone else can.

 

[healthmyths]

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The U.S. added 287,000 new jobs in June, according to the Labor Department report ...

And of course you idiots tell ONLY ONE SIDE of the story!
HERE is why GWB will be considered a "great" President when you idiots remember the FACTS of what occurred from 2001 to 2008!
Recession??
Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because idiots don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like large ships.. it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does a "RECESSION"...
it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!
Source: USATODAY.com - It's official: 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $8 trillion market loss
Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $8 trillion in losses? Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year!
$8 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue. PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $8 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies.
More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Now before you idiots say "well Bush should have known"! DUMMIES... ever hear of the Gorelick Memo signed under CLINTON??
Gorelick Memo that created the wall between FBI & CIA thus no knowledge of the 9/11 bombers shared with the FBI!!! Looks especially imprudent 10 years later.
Because the memo created a barrier for U.S. intelligence agencies to share information with the FBI, one of its unintended consequences may have been to prevent the FBI from receiving the necessary intelligence to stop the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the worst in American history.
Gorelick Memo Allegedly Impeded Probe of Clinton Fundraising Scandal
1995 memo [Clinton presidency-concerned about Chinese election sales] Gorelick wrote, stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” GORELICK Memo!
Jamie Gorelick’s wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.
At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall.
Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems…..
especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.
So, a year before the 9/11 attacks, a special unit in the U.S. military was aware of the presence of an al-Queda cell in Brooklyn, New York, and sought to share its information with the FBI but was stopped cold.Why?Because (as described in the April 16, 2004 Washington Times piece) “on March 4, 1995, [Jamie Gorelick, the then number 2 official in the Clinton Justice Department, sent a 4-page directive] to FBI Director Louis Freeh and Mary Jo White, the New York-based U.S. attorney investigating the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
In the memo, Ms. Gorelick ordered Mr. Freeh and Ms. White to follow information-sharing procedures
that ‘go beyond what is legally required,’ in order to avoid ‘any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance’
that the Justice Department was using Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants, instead of ordinary criminal investigative procedures, in an effort to undermine the civil liberties of terrorism suspects.”
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew

Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World

Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history. 2,215 lives lost
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of:
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts... In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property..

IN SPITE of the above:
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later due to dot.com/9-11 losses against revenue.
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=20

BEA National Economic Accounts
Average annual growth in the Gross Domestic Product over 8 years 2.9% compared to the Idiot's..
SMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth
SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth

IN Spite of all the events AND if the housing bubble caused by the below people hadn't occurred it would have
been: 4.4% compared to what now???
2001 2.3% increase
2002 2.4%
2003 6.8%
2004 6.4%
2005 5.4%
2006 4.6%
2007 3.2%
2008 -7.7%

What are these numbers supposed to represent, and where did you find them? (Brace yourself, cause this is gonna get ugly......fast.)

2002 2.4%
2003 6.8%
2004 6.4%
2005 5.4%
2006 4.6%
2007 3.2%

BEA National Economic Accounts
It has been updated since I had the above numbers...

Do you understand the distinction between "current dollars" and "real"?

You should give some thought to a sabbatical, and a new identity.........

Again...do understand that the TABLE is in REAL dollars not INFLATED dollars of today which is the difference?
Inflation for the past 10 years idiot!

Still doesn't make ANY difference...!

 

[IcebergSlim]

If Obumble ever stops suddenly, the OP is going to have a very brown nose...

Cause he posted the recent jobs report?

You people really hate the Reality Based types, don't you?

 

[Conservative65]

The U.S. added 287,000 new jobs in June, according to the Labor Department report ...

MORE good news for HRC.

All these supposed jobs yet still millions more living on the dole than when Bush was President. If all the jobs are being created, why are more people relying on taxpayers to support them than before Obama was President?

Why don't you put up some numbers, provide the sources, and we can go over them -- 'k?

View attachment 80984

Food stamps are not "the Dole"......the last major change to eligibility standards were made in 2003....

Now that you have posted that graph, you should have no problem telling me what happened to SNAP rolls between 2001 and 2009..

Please answer in the form of a percentage....

Eligibility standards are irrelevant. If someone is receiving taxpayer funded money to support themselves, they are on the "dole".

My chart included those numbers between 2001 and 2009, dumbass. Are you too fucking stupid to read? They went up but not close to what they did and have stayed under Obama.

 

[Conservative65]

Now we are getting somewhere

Let's look at stagnant low end wage scales and how the taxpayer has to compensate for substandard wages

Put the blame where it belongs......with our beloved job creators

So the jobs Obama takes credit for creating weren't really good jobs yet he still takes credit for them? Got it.

I have a solution. Let those with little to no skills improve those skills and they'll get paid more. When they get paid what those skills are worth, no one owes them a subsidy to offset THEIR lack of skills.

Once again, you take a solution that will work for an individual worker but will not work for the 30 million who work and still need Government assistance

If it will work for one, it can work for anyone willing to do so.

If you think they need it, give them your money. MY money is for MY family not some piece of shit who won't provide for his own.

That is ridiculous

You think thirty million low wage workers have executive positions waiting for them if they would only buckle down and try harder?

That's not fair, after all Conservative65 is now head newspaper boy. If he can do it, for sure anyone else can.

If that's what you think I do, prove it. You'll be a fool to try and treat fools like you as fools on a daily basis. It's fun.

 

[healthmyths]

And again... what kind of events EQUAL to the enormity of these you haven't EVEN addressed that side of the issue!
How dumb must you be to totally ignore these events?
Geez FDR had Pearl Harbor, but he didn't have the Worst hurricane seasons!
NOT ONE President has ever had to face these 4 enormous impactful events in their terms.
Not one president had airlines not flying for 3 days or Wall Street shut down for 10 days!
Why is admitting THESE EVENTS occurred so hard? Ignorance? Or are you just so ideologically driven?

Recession??
Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because idiots don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like large ships.. it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does a "RECESSION"...
it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!
Source: USATODAY.com - It's official: 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $8 trillion market loss
Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $8 trillion in losses? Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year!
$8 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue. PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $8 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies.
More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Now before you idiots say "well Bush should have known"! DUMMIES... ever hear of the Gorelick Memo signed under CLINTON??
Gorelick Memo that created the wall between FBI & CIA thus no knowledge of the 9/11 bombers shared with the FBI!!! Looks especially imprudent 10 years later.
Because the memo created a barrier for U.S. intelligence agencies to share information with the FBI, one of its unintended consequences may have been to prevent the FBI from receiving the necessary intelligence to stop the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the worst in American history.
Gorelick Memo Allegedly Impeded Probe of Clinton Fundraising Scandal
1995 memo [Clinton presidency-concerned about Chinese election sales] Gorelick wrote, stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” GORELICK Memo!
Jamie Gorelick’s wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.
At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall.
Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems…..
especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.
So, a year before the 9/11 attacks, a special unit in the U.S. military was aware of the presence of an al-Queda cell in Brooklyn, New York, and sought to share its information with the FBI but was stopped cold.Why?Because (as described in the April 16, 2004 Washington Times piece) “on March 4, 1995, [Jamie Gorelick, the then number 2 official in the Clinton Justice Department, sent a 4-page directive] to FBI Director Louis Freeh and Mary Jo White, the New York-based U.S. attorney investigating the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
In the memo, Ms. Gorelick ordered Mr. Freeh and Ms. White to follow information-sharing procedures
that ‘go beyond what is legally required,’ in order to avoid ‘any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance’
that the Justice Department was using Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants, instead of ordinary criminal investigative procedures, in an effort to undermine the civil liberties of terrorism suspects.”
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew

Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World

Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history. 2,215 lives lost
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of:
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts... In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property..

IN SPITE of the above:
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later due to dot.com/9-11 losses against revenue.
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=20

BEA National Economic Accounts
Average annual growth in the Gross Domestic Product over 8 years 2.9% compared to the Idiot's..
SMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth
SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth

 

[Conservative65]

If Obumble ever stops suddenly, the OP is going to have a very brown nose...

Cause he posted the recent jobs report?

You people really hate the Reality Based types, don't you?

The reality is over 45 million are still on food stamps despite your agreement that unemployment is down. If more people have jobs, why are more people still getting taxpayer funded handouts? It's contradictory and your only excuse is blame Bush.

 

[IcebergSlim]

View attachment 80988

The U.S. added 287,000 new jobs in June, according to the Labor Department report ...

And of course you idiots tell ONLY ONE SIDE of the story!
HERE is why GWB will be considered a "great" President when you idiots remember the FACTS of what occurred from 2001 to 2008!
Recession??
Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because idiots don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like large ships.. it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does a "RECESSION"...
it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!
Source: USATODAY.com - It's official: 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $8 trillion market loss
Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $8 trillion in losses? Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year!
$8 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue. PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $8 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies.
More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Now before you idiots say "well Bush should have known"! DUMMIES... ever hear of the Gorelick Memo signed under CLINTON??
Gorelick Memo that created the wall between FBI & CIA thus no knowledge of the 9/11 bombers shared with the FBI!!! Looks especially imprudent 10 years later.
Because the memo created a barrier for U.S. intelligence agencies to share information with the FBI, one of its unintended consequences may have been to prevent the FBI from receiving the necessary intelligence to stop the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the worst in American history.
Gorelick Memo Allegedly Impeded Probe of Clinton Fundraising Scandal
1995 memo [Clinton presidency-concerned about Chinese election sales] Gorelick wrote, stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” GORELICK Memo!
Jamie Gorelick’s wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.
At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall.
Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems…..
especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.
So, a year before the 9/11 attacks, a special unit in the U.S. military was aware of the presence of an al-Queda cell in Brooklyn, New York, and sought to share its information with the FBI but was stopped cold.Why?Because (as described in the April 16, 2004 Washington Times piece) “on March 4, 1995, [Jamie Gorelick, the then number 2 official in the Clinton Justice Department, sent a 4-page directive] to FBI Director Louis Freeh and Mary Jo White, the New York-based U.S. attorney investigating the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
In the memo, Ms. Gorelick ordered Mr. Freeh and Ms. White to follow information-sharing procedures
that ‘go beyond what is legally required,’ in order to avoid ‘any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance’
that the Justice Department was using Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants, instead of ordinary criminal investigative procedures, in an effort to undermine the civil liberties of terrorism suspects.”
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew

Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World

Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history. 2,215 lives lost
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of:
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts... In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property..

IN SPITE of the above:
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later due to dot.com/9-11 losses against revenue.
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=20

BEA National Economic Accounts
Average annual growth in the Gross Domestic Product over 8 years 2.9% compared to the Idiot's..
SMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth
SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth

IN Spite of all the events AND if the housing bubble caused by the below people hadn't occurred it would have
been: 4.4% compared to what now???
2001 2.3% increase
2002 2.4%
2003 6.8%
2004 6.4%
2005 5.4%
2006 4.6%
2007 3.2%
2008 -7.7%

What are these numbers supposed to represent, and where did you find them? (Brace yourself, cause this is gonna get ugly......fast.)

2002 2.4%
2003 6.8%
2004 6.4%
2005 5.4%
2006 4.6%
2007 3.2%

BEA National Economic Accounts
It has been updated since I had the above numbers...

Do you understand the distinction between "current dollars" and "real"?

You should give some thought to a sabbatical, and a new identity.........

Again...do understand that the TABLE is in REAL dollars not INFLATED dollars of today which is the difference?
Inflation for the past 10 years idiot!

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Still doesn't make ANY difference...!

You contrast REAL GDP for the period 2009 - the present with NOMINAL GDP for the period 2001-2008, and you claim it "doesn't make any difference"?

a) you're a fucking idiot...

b) you STILL have the number wrong....learn how to operate a TVM calculator.

c) you're a fucking idiot