US knew flight path of plane downed by Turkey: Putin

[Moonglow]

Wow, such an intellectual comment is simply mind-blowing

As a member of The Illuminati, I can safely say that's all you're worth.

Are we still having dinner in Ontario to discuss the elimination of Africa?

 

[Alex.]

The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.


Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.

If it was trespassing over their airspace, and ignored warnings - they had the right. Not saying it was the smart thing to do but they have every right to do it without the "clearance" of any other nation.

"Decades of careful diplomacy and nail-biting inaction during the potentially world-annihilating nuclear arms race of the 1950s, 60s and 70s appears to have been sacrificed in a few brief seconds by Turkey.

During the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the deployment of nuclear weapons in western Europe in the 1980s and many other causes of strife, NATO did not take on the Soviet Union or Russia directly and Moscow did not attack any NATO country.

That all changed when Turkish air force jets shot down a Russian bomber Tuesday -- the first time a NATO country has taken such action since 1952."

NATO and Putin: Downed Russian bomber is big threat - CNN.com

The "right" at what costs. They should have exercised greater care and consulted with their NATO counterparts like the USA.

As I said in my post - it might not have been smart, but they had the right if the invading plane was not responding to them.

Sometimes like now even is some has a right they don't have the "reason".

Agree. This is a complicated conflict with two many independent players. But saying Turkey has no right to defend their airspace isn't right either - particularly if they gave warnings and if the plane was over their airspace. They shouldn't have - but they had a right to. Russia does not have a reputation for respecting other countries.

You are missing the big picture

 

[Toro]

No John McCain is a TOTAL lunatic, the man literally needs putting in a straight-jacket and throwing into a rubber room.

Do you know who really should be put into a straight jacket and thrown in a rubber room?

Anyone who thinks shadowy groups control the puppet strings of governments.

 

[Toro]

Wow, such an intellectual comment is simply mind-blowing

As a member of The Illuminati, I can safely say that's all you're worth.

Are we still having dinner in Ontario to discuss the elimination of Africa?

No. It's been moved to New York.

I expect to pay $5000 for a bottle of wine, and you can't get that in Toronto.

 

[Moonglow]

Wow, such an intellectual comment is simply mind-blowing

As a member of The Illuminati, I can safely say that's all you're worth.

Are we still having dinner in Ontario to discuss the elimination of Africa?

No. It's been moved to New York.

I expect to pay $5000 for a bottle of wine, and you can't get that in Toronto.

I like those 250 dollar omelettes ....

 

[tinydancer]

Great analysis.

"The fact that groups of terrorists reached the site of the pilot’s landing so quickly and that the video of the incident was posted on the internet in a span of 90 minutes proves that the terrorists had been informed in advance about the plotted provocation so that it could be video recorded and posted in social networks," he said.

Bondarev also noted that the video footage of Russian bomber's crash was shot from the territory controlled by terrorists from North Caucasus and former Soviet republics. He also noted that the person shooting the video knew the time and place of the attack in advance.

"The shot angle makes it possible to define the exact place. It is located in a territory held by radical terrorist groups from the North Caucasus or the former Soviet republics. The cameraman knew the exact time and place from it would be possible to make exclusive shots," Bondarev said.

According to him, the Turkish media’s readiness to cover the incident was amazingly surprising. The general recalled that the Russian jet was hit at 10:24 on November 25. A private Turkish TV company posted the video 90 minutes later.

"The prompt appearance of terrorist gangs at the landing place and the video’s publication in the Internet 90 minutes after the incident proves that the terrorists had been informed of the forthcoming provocation in advance with an aim to shoot everything on a video and place the materials in social networks," Bondarev stressed."

Turkey’s F-16 that downed Russian bomber was in Syrian airspace for 40 seconds — commander

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Think about this part of the press conference. President Hollande was standing right next to Putin at that press conference and he did not negate Putin statements.

Of course he wouldn't.

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

 

[Moonglow]

Think about this part of the press conference. President Hollande was standing right next to Putin at that press conference and he did not negate Putin statements.

Of course he wouldn't.

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Wow, such an intellectual comment is simply mind-blowing

As a member of The Illuminati, I can safely say that's all you're worth.

My family are ex-Illuminati, having left after not wanting to participate in The Agenda anymore, about 20 years ago.

 

[Moonglow]

Wow, such an intellectual comment is simply mind-blowing

As a member of The Illuminati, I can safely say that's all you're worth.

My family are ex-Illuminati, having left after not wanting to participate in The Agenda anymore, about 20 years ago.

Can you show us the secret hand shake?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Think about this part of the press conference. President Hollande was standing right next to Putin at that press conference and he did not negate Putin statements.

Of course he wouldn't.

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

Why didn't Obama want to regime change Bahrain....the Dictator of Bahrain had his own nationals tortured and murdered when they attempted their Arab Spring in 2011....oh but Bahrain like Saudi Arabia are "Allies", so that makes torture and murder of their own nationals completely acceptable to hypocritical Washington DC.

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Torture:

Torture during the Bahraini uprising (2011–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deaths:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Propaganda Media non-coverage:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CNN:

"CNN controversy[edit]

On September 29, 2012, US journalist Amber Lyon, who was covering the uprising for CNN, described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news. A documentary on which she had been working was never aired.[284]"

The US Government ie. Obama buck stops with.

Utter hypocrisy, so don't mention any horsecrap about Assad killing his own nationals....it's okay when Bahrain's leader tortures and kills his own people right?

 

[Contumacious]

 

[Coyote]

Think about this part of the press conference. President Hollande was standing right next to Putin at that press conference and he did not negate Putin statements.

Of course he wouldn't.

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

He's bombing non-terrorists as well simply because they oppose Assad's blood thirsty regime.

 

[Coyote]

Of course he wouldn't.

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

Why didn't Obama want to regime change Bahrain....the Dictator of Bahrain had his own nationals tortured and murdered when they attempted their Arab Spring in 2011....oh but Bahrain like Saudi Arabia are "Allies", so that makes torture and murder of their own nationals completely acceptable to hypocritical Washington DC.

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Torture:

Torture during the Bahraini uprising (2011–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deaths:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Propaganda Media non-coverage:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CNN:

"CNN controversy[edit]

On September 29, 2012, US journalist Amber Lyon, who was covering the uprising for CNN, described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news. A documentary on which she had been working was never aired.[284]"

The US Government ie. Obama buck stops with.

Utter hypocrisy, so don't mention any horsecrap about Assad killing his own nationals....it's okay when Bahrain's leader tortures and kills his own people right?

Was Bahrain barrel bombing civilians?

 

[Moonglow]

Of course he wouldn't.

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

Why didn't Obama want to regime change Bahrain....the Dictator of Bahrain had his own nationals tortured and murdered when they attempted their Arab Spring in 2011....oh but Bahrain like Saudi Arabia are "Allies", so that makes torture and murder of their own nationals completely acceptable to hypocritical Washington DC.

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Torture:

Torture during the Bahraini uprising (2011–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deaths:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Propaganda Media non-coverage:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CNN:

"CNN controversy[edit]

On September 29, 2012, US journalist Amber Lyon, who was covering the uprising for CNN, described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news. A documentary on which she had been working was never aired.[284]"

The US Government ie. Obama buck stops with.

Utter hypocrisy, so don't mention any horsecrap about Assad killing his own nationals....it's okay when Bahrain's leader tortures and kills his own people right?

I see you have a problem understanding what Truman said..and trying to understand that your hero Pootin is just a bastard as Oblama...But Pootin likes to throw girls into prison for saying things he doesn't like......

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

Why didn't Obama want to regime change Bahrain....the Dictator of Bahrain had his own nationals tortured and murdered when they attempted their Arab Spring in 2011....oh but Bahrain like Saudi Arabia are "Allies", so that makes torture and murder of their own nationals completely acceptable to hypocritical Washington DC.

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Torture:

Torture during the Bahraini uprising (2011–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deaths:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Propaganda Media non-coverage:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CNN:

"CNN controversy[edit]

On September 29, 2012, US journalist Amber Lyon, who was covering the uprising for CNN, described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news. A documentary on which she had been working was never aired.[284]"

The US Government ie. Obama buck stops with.

Utter hypocrisy, so don't mention any horsecrap about Assad killing his own nationals....it's okay when Bahrain's leader tortures and kills his own people right?

Was Bahrain barrel bombing civilians?

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

Why didn't Obama want to regime change Bahrain....the Dictator of Bahrain had his own nationals tortured and murdered when they attempted their Arab Spring in 2011....oh but Bahrain like Saudi Arabia are "Allies", so that makes torture and murder of their own nationals completely acceptable to hypocritical Washington DC.

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Torture:

Torture during the Bahraini uprising (2011–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deaths:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Propaganda Media non-coverage:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CNN:

"CNN controversy[edit]

On September 29, 2012, US journalist Amber Lyon, who was covering the uprising for CNN, described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news. A documentary on which she had been working was never aired.[284]"

The US Government ie. Obama buck stops with.

Utter hypocrisy, so don't mention any horsecrap about Assad killing his own nationals....it's okay when Bahrain's leader tortures and kills his own people right?

Was Bahrain barrel bombing civilians?

You write John Kerry's speeches don't you? Come on now, admit it!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

No. He would have distanced himself from those statements. That would mean that Putin showed him proof that there have been exchanges between Russia and the US to make sure an incident like this didn't occur.

You have to understand Coyote Erdogan is a maniac who has been funding al Nusra and buying ISIS oil. And that's just for starters on the evil this man has wreaked in Syria and Iraq.

Hell's bells he's been bombing the Kurds too.

And what is monumentally sad. We've let him do this. We've helped him do this.

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

Why didn't Obama want to regime change Bahrain....the Dictator of Bahrain had his own nationals tortured and murdered when they attempted their Arab Spring in 2011....oh but Bahrain like Saudi Arabia are "Allies", so that makes torture and murder of their own nationals completely acceptable to hypocritical Washington DC.

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Torture:

Torture during the Bahraini uprising (2011–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deaths:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Propaganda Media non-coverage:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CNN:

"CNN controversy[edit]

On September 29, 2012, US journalist Amber Lyon, who was covering the uprising for CNN, described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news. A documentary on which she had been working was never aired.[284]"

The US Government ie. Obama buck stops with.

Utter hypocrisy, so don't mention any horsecrap about Assad killing his own nationals....it's okay when Bahrain's leader tortures and kills his own people right?

I see you have a problem understanding what Truman said..and trying to understand that your hero Pootin is just a bastard as Oblama...But Pootin likes to throw girls into prison for saying things he doesn't like......

Are you meaning Pussy Riot? They were thrown in jail originally for bursting into a Christian church and I believe urinating in there.

 

[Moonglow]

I'm no more crazy about Erdogan than Putin - the problem is, there is almost certain to be incidents like this given the many many players in this conflict - each of whom have their own agendas.

I'd rather Putin here he's bombing any and all terrorists, he makes no differentiation.

Not only is the dangerous lunatic Erdogan supporting Al-Nusra and ISIL/ISIS/Daesh, he's also been bombing the Kurds, the Kurds who are bravely fighting ISIL/ISIS/Daesh.

Surely it's fundamentally immoral of Obama to side with Erdogan? Forget NATO, we're talking about right from wrong here. Erdogan is wrong on all levels.

IF Obama was being genuine about ISIL/ISIS/Daesh then he wouldn't be supporting Erdogan, simple logic and common sense should tell us that.

and Putin supports a Muslim notorious for killing his own nationals... But he's a hero to you.....

Why didn't Obama want to regime change Bahrain....the Dictator of Bahrain had his own nationals tortured and murdered when they attempted their Arab Spring in 2011....oh but Bahrain like Saudi Arabia are "Allies", so that makes torture and murder of their own nationals completely acceptable to hypocritical Washington DC.

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Torture:

Torture during the Bahraini uprising (2011–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deaths:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Propaganda Media non-coverage:

Bahraini uprising of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CNN:

"CNN controversy[edit]

On September 29, 2012, US journalist Amber Lyon, who was covering the uprising for CNN, described her investigation of how the US ally Bahrain was committing human rights abuses, but said that CNN and the US government pressured her to suppress the news. A documentary on which she had been working was never aired.[284]"

The US Government ie. Obama buck stops with.

Utter hypocrisy, so don't mention any horsecrap about Assad killing his own nationals....it's okay when Bahrain's leader tortures and kills his own people right?

I see you have a problem understanding what Truman said..and trying to understand that your hero Pootin is just a bastard as Oblama...But Pootin likes to throw girls into prison for saying things he doesn't like......

Are you meaning Pussy Riot? They were thrown in jail originally for bursting into a Christian church and I believe urinating in there.

Two members of Russian punk band Pussy Riot, who were serving two-year jail terms for their part in a performance critical of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

[Moonglow]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Russia did not inform the U.S. military of its jet's flight plan before Turkey shot it down on Tuesday, despite assertions to the contrary by Russian President Vladimir Putin, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Friday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Putin has suggested some degree of U.S. culpability in the aftermath of the incident, even hinting that the United States might have given detailed Russian operational plans to Turkey ahead of time.
Russia didn't give downed jet's flight plan to U.S.: U.S. officials

 

[browsing deer]

"The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes' flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time," Putin said at a joint press conference with French counterpart Francois Hollande in the Kremlin."

Shame on Barack Hussein! Shame on poodle NATO!

US knew flight path of plane downed by Turkey: Putin

You might be interested in this OP-ed piece.
Guest Post: Why Is The US Hanging Turkey Out To Dry?
Guest Post: Why Is The US Hanging Turkey Out To Dry? | Zero Hedge
The reaction that no one could have predicted, however, is the US purposely leaking comments to Reuters that support the Russian version of events, namely, that the anti-terrorist jet was shot down while flying over Syrian airspace. This completely conflicts with what the US and NATO have said in public, but it shows that the US has had enough time to game out the plane-shooting scenario well in advance, and that it’s playing a sinister divide-and-conquer game against Turkey and Russia. Put in the position where its decision makers are scrambling for responses to the unprecedented aggression against them, Russia can now more easily be led into supporting the Kurdish struggle for sovereignty (whether formally independent or de-facto so) in Turkey, which coincides with one of the US’ premier geopolitical projects.


For sometime I have known that this whole Syrian debacle is part of both the Bush and Obama regimes "New Middle East" plan.

I have never been able to figure out HOW they were going to get Turkey to give up territory though. Well. . . . if you read that OP-ed piece, it is in the offing now. Wow, that shit was planed like a decade ago. It is scary to watch it come to fruition. That would mean that behind the scenes, the Russians are actually working with Washington. I wonder if there are politicians in Ankara actually betraying the Turkish people to make way for a Kurdish state, if they have globalists there, like we have globalists here. That would explain Erdogan's eerily long electoral success. He has the backing of the IMF, the World Bank and other internationalists.

It's a sad sad world when world leaders have a common vision with each other, and don't give a shit about the people from the nation's they were chosen to represent.

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East”
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East”

This is insane. Some parts of is I would support, the independent Kurdistan. the breaking apart of Iraq into three pieces. the rest of it is horrible