Strawberries were on sale........ so was whipped cream........ I love strawberry shortcake but hate the modern store bought cups they sell for it so mix up the dough and soon after there's biscuit shortcake ready to be consumed. ![thup :thup: :thup:](/styles/smilies/thup.gif)
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There is a Masonic Lodge in nearby Negley, Ohio that holds a strawberry festival every May (our strawberry season is substantially later). My sainted Uncle Alex was a big deal in Freemasonry. Every office, post, position, chair and honor, Alex held. So, during the private Masonic strawberry eating portion of the festival, Alex was always asked to stand and introduce himself.Strawberries were on sale........ so was whipped cream........ I love strawberry shortcake but hate the modern store bought cups they sell for it so mix up the dough and soon after there's biscuit shortcake ready to be consumed.![]()
Different time, different culture. Church attendance is way down as is belief in a divine, the Me-llenials are part of it but it was the younger Boomers that showed the way so to speak.A disturbing trend here n the Crotch of the Tri-State area this Lenten season. There was at least one Roman Catholic Church and at least one Episcopal church in each town up and down the Ohio River from the point at Pittsburgh and the Roebling Bridge at Wheeling, West Virginia. But in the passed couple of years, many of those Catholic Churches have combined, closed and abandoned.
What does this have to do with me, a stark Presbyterian unmoved by ecclesiastical pageantry? Well, those churches would pull out all the stops during Lent and serve up the tastiest food. In a season known for privation and sacrifice, the women of those congregations would don their hair nets and staff the church basement kitchens. Fish sandwiches of ridiculous proportions where the filet overhangs the bun by eight or ten inches on both sides. Peirogies swimming in butter. Mounds of spaghetti and tossed salad. These were all for sale in the church basements. No one had to cook or make restaurant reservation no on Fridays during Lent.
But consolidation has swept those church ladies out of the kitchen and into the streets where they could get into all types of trouble. I don't know if there is some intramural politics going on when one congregation is forced to merge with another. I don't know if there was some order from the diocese to cease and desist the Lenten food sales. I do know I miss them!
Immaculate Conception in Wellsville is an abandoned building. St. Ann's down on Pennsylvania Avenue is shut down. Both congregations no have been combined with St. Aloysius downtown and they now call the church Holy Trinity Roman Catholic. St. Blaise in Industry, PA is closed as a church, but open as a day care center.Different time, different culture. Church attendance is way down as is belief in a divine, the Me-llenials are part of it but it was the younger Boomers that showed the way so to speak.A disturbing trend here n the Crotch of the Tri-State area this Lenten season. There was at least one Roman Catholic Church and at least one Episcopal church in each town up and down the Ohio River from the point at Pittsburgh and the Roebling Bridge at Wheeling, West Virginia. But in the passed couple of years, many of those Catholic Churches have combined, closed and abandoned.
What does this have to do with me, a stark Presbyterian unmoved by ecclesiastical pageantry? Well, those churches would pull out all the stops during Lent and serve up the tastiest food. In a season known for privation and sacrifice, the women of those congregations would don their hair nets and staff the church basement kitchens. Fish sandwiches of ridiculous proportions where the filet overhangs the bun by eight or ten inches on both sides. Peirogies swimming in butter. Mounds of spaghetti and tossed salad. These were all for sale in the church basements. No one had to cook or make restaurant reservation no on Fridays during Lent.
But consolidation has swept those church ladies out of the kitchen and into the streets where they could get into all types of trouble. I don't know if there is some intramural politics going on when one congregation is forced to merge with another. I don't know if there was some order from the diocese to cease and desist the Lenten food sales. I do know I miss them!
Immaculate Conception in Wellsville is an abandoned building. St. Ann's down on Pennsylvania Avenue is shut down. Both congregations no have been combined with St. Aloysius downtown and they now call the church Holy Trinity Roman Catholic. St. Blaise in Industry, PA is closed as a church, but open as a day care center.Different time, different culture. Church attendance is way down as is belief in a divine, the Me-llenials are part of it but it was the younger Boomers that showed the way so to speak.A disturbing trend here n the Crotch of the Tri-State area this Lenten season. There was at least one Roman Catholic Church and at least one Episcopal church in each town up and down the Ohio River from the point at Pittsburgh and the Roebling Bridge at Wheeling, West Virginia. But in the passed couple of years, many of those Catholic Churches have combined, closed and abandoned.
What does this have to do with me, a stark Presbyterian unmoved by ecclesiastical pageantry? Well, those churches would pull out all the stops during Lent and serve up the tastiest food. In a season known for privation and sacrifice, the women of those congregations would don their hair nets and staff the church basement kitchens. Fish sandwiches of ridiculous proportions where the filet overhangs the bun by eight or ten inches on both sides. Peirogies swimming in butter. Mounds of spaghetti and tossed salad. These were all for sale in the church basements. No one had to cook or make restaurant reservation no on Fridays during Lent.
But consolidation has swept those church ladies out of the kitchen and into the streets where they could get into all types of trouble. I don't know if there is some intramural politics going on when one congregation is forced to merge with another. I don't know if there was some order from the diocese to cease and desist the Lenten food sales. I do know I miss them!
There are fewer churches but more people seem to be going to church! Even though my own Trinity Presbyterian has merged with Long's Run Presbyterian there are more faces at Easter Pageant practice. The Northside Community Church two blocks west at Orchard Grove Avenue and St. Clair has congregants parking in front of the Luxurious Pimplebutt Estate every Sunday morning.
And, at the end of the day, I can't find a decent fish sandwich in a church basement anymore.
Why Are Christian Numbers Dropping?Immaculate Conception in Wellsville is an abandoned building. St. Ann's down on Pennsylvania Avenue is shut down. Both congregations no have been combined with St. Aloysius downtown and they now call the church Holy Trinity Roman Catholic. St. Blaise in Industry, PA is closed as a church, but open as a day care center.Different time, different culture. Church attendance is way down as is belief in a divine, the Me-llenials are part of it but it was the younger Boomers that showed the way so to speak.A disturbing trend here n the Crotch of the Tri-State area this Lenten season. There was at least one Roman Catholic Church and at least one Episcopal church in each town up and down the Ohio River from the point at Pittsburgh and the Roebling Bridge at Wheeling, West Virginia. But in the passed couple of years, many of those Catholic Churches have combined, closed and abandoned.
What does this have to do with me, a stark Presbyterian unmoved by ecclesiastical pageantry? Well, those churches would pull out all the stops during Lent and serve up the tastiest food. In a season known for privation and sacrifice, the women of those congregations would don their hair nets and staff the church basement kitchens. Fish sandwiches of ridiculous proportions where the filet overhangs the bun by eight or ten inches on both sides. Peirogies swimming in butter. Mounds of spaghetti and tossed salad. These were all for sale in the church basements. No one had to cook or make restaurant reservation no on Fridays during Lent.
But consolidation has swept those church ladies out of the kitchen and into the streets where they could get into all types of trouble. I don't know if there is some intramural politics going on when one congregation is forced to merge with another. I don't know if there was some order from the diocese to cease and desist the Lenten food sales. I do know I miss them!
There are fewer churches but more people seem to be going to church! Even though my own Trinity Presbyterian has merged with Long's Run Presbyterian there are more faces at Easter Pageant practice. The Northside Community Church two blocks west at Orchard Grove Avenue and St. Clair has congregants parking in front of the Luxurious Pimplebutt Estate every Sunday morning.
And, at the end of the day, I can't find a decent fish sandwich in a church basement anymore.
I think you're right. Church attendance doesn't seem to be suffering so much as there is much less loyalty to a particular congregation or sometimes even a denomination. Many small churches are giving up and the people are going to larger congregations who can afford dynamic preachers, great music, and visual aids as well as specific ministries to kids and special interests. I was just researching congregations of a specific denomination for a family member and found a church near her that seems to be small enough not to be overwhelming, but offers the full range of amenities dear to the more traditional sort. And they serve a full breakfast--not just coffee and donuts--after their early service and a full brunch after their mid morning service--the photos at their website were pretty impressive.
Don't know if you could get that great fish sandwich there though Nosmo.
Why Are Christian Numbers Dropping?Immaculate Conception in Wellsville is an abandoned building. St. Ann's down on Pennsylvania Avenue is shut down. Both congregations no have been combined with St. Aloysius downtown and they now call the church Holy Trinity Roman Catholic. St. Blaise in Industry, PA is closed as a church, but open as a day care center.Different time, different culture. Church attendance is way down as is belief in a divine, the Me-llenials are part of it but it was the younger Boomers that showed the way so to speak.A disturbing trend here n the Crotch of the Tri-State area this Lenten season. There was at least one Roman Catholic Church and at least one Episcopal church in each town up and down the Ohio River from the point at Pittsburgh and the Roebling Bridge at Wheeling, West Virginia. But in the passed couple of years, many of those Catholic Churches have combined, closed and abandoned.
What does this have to do with me, a stark Presbyterian unmoved by ecclesiastical pageantry? Well, those churches would pull out all the stops during Lent and serve up the tastiest food. In a season known for privation and sacrifice, the women of those congregations would don their hair nets and staff the church basement kitchens. Fish sandwiches of ridiculous proportions where the filet overhangs the bun by eight or ten inches on both sides. Peirogies swimming in butter. Mounds of spaghetti and tossed salad. These were all for sale in the church basements. No one had to cook or make restaurant reservation no on Fridays during Lent.
But consolidation has swept those church ladies out of the kitchen and into the streets where they could get into all types of trouble. I don't know if there is some intramural politics going on when one congregation is forced to merge with another. I don't know if there was some order from the diocese to cease and desist the Lenten food sales. I do know I miss them!
There are fewer churches but more people seem to be going to church! Even though my own Trinity Presbyterian has merged with Long's Run Presbyterian there are more faces at Easter Pageant practice. The Northside Community Church two blocks west at Orchard Grove Avenue and St. Clair has congregants parking in front of the Luxurious Pimplebutt Estate every Sunday morning.
And, at the end of the day, I can't find a decent fish sandwich in a church basement anymore.
I think you're right. Church attendance doesn't seem to be suffering so much as there is much less loyalty to a particular congregation or sometimes even a denomination. Many small churches are giving up and the people are going to larger congregations who can afford dynamic preachers, great music, and visual aids as well as specific ministries to kids and special interests. I was just researching congregations of a specific denomination for a family member and found a church near her that seems to be small enough not to be overwhelming, but offers the full range of amenities dear to the more traditional sort. And they serve a full breakfast--not just coffee and donuts--after their early service and a full brunch after their mid morning service--the photos at their website were pretty impressive.
Don't know if you could get that great fish sandwich there though Nosmo.
Millennials leaving church in droves, study says - CNN
America’s Changing Religious Landscape
Christianity Declining, Secularism Rising
The World's Newest Major Religion: No Religion
Ya'll forget, I'm a historian and sociologist, I still keep up with multiple demographic changes.
Specific local demographics are endemic to the local and not always representative of the larger picture, national and international in this case. Heck, El Paso is a hot bed of Papist heretics......, I was considering selling dispensations....... (that was a joke...., I was raised Roman Chatholic.....)Why Are Christian Numbers Dropping?Immaculate Conception in Wellsville is an abandoned building. St. Ann's down on Pennsylvania Avenue is shut down. Both congregations no have been combined with St. Aloysius downtown and they now call the church Holy Trinity Roman Catholic. St. Blaise in Industry, PA is closed as a church, but open as a day care center.Different time, different culture. Church attendance is way down as is belief in a divine, the Me-llenials are part of it but it was the younger Boomers that showed the way so to speak.A disturbing trend here n the Crotch of the Tri-State area this Lenten season. There was at least one Roman Catholic Church and at least one Episcopal church in each town up and down the Ohio River from the point at Pittsburgh and the Roebling Bridge at Wheeling, West Virginia. But in the passed couple of years, many of those Catholic Churches have combined, closed and abandoned.
What does this have to do with me, a stark Presbyterian unmoved by ecclesiastical pageantry? Well, those churches would pull out all the stops during Lent and serve up the tastiest food. In a season known for privation and sacrifice, the women of those congregations would don their hair nets and staff the church basement kitchens. Fish sandwiches of ridiculous proportions where the filet overhangs the bun by eight or ten inches on both sides. Peirogies swimming in butter. Mounds of spaghetti and tossed salad. These were all for sale in the church basements. No one had to cook or make restaurant reservation no on Fridays during Lent.
But consolidation has swept those church ladies out of the kitchen and into the streets where they could get into all types of trouble. I don't know if there is some intramural politics going on when one congregation is forced to merge with another. I don't know if there was some order from the diocese to cease and desist the Lenten food sales. I do know I miss them!
There are fewer churches but more people seem to be going to church! Even though my own Trinity Presbyterian has merged with Long's Run Presbyterian there are more faces at Easter Pageant practice. The Northside Community Church two blocks west at Orchard Grove Avenue and St. Clair has congregants parking in front of the Luxurious Pimplebutt Estate every Sunday morning.
And, at the end of the day, I can't find a decent fish sandwich in a church basement anymore.
I think you're right. Church attendance doesn't seem to be suffering so much as there is much less loyalty to a particular congregation or sometimes even a denomination. Many small churches are giving up and the people are going to larger congregations who can afford dynamic preachers, great music, and visual aids as well as specific ministries to kids and special interests. I was just researching congregations of a specific denomination for a family member and found a church near her that seems to be small enough not to be overwhelming, but offers the full range of amenities dear to the more traditional sort. And they serve a full breakfast--not just coffee and donuts--after their early service and a full brunch after their mid morning service--the photos at their website were pretty impressive.
Don't know if you could get that great fish sandwich there though Nosmo.
Millennials leaving church in droves, study says - CNN
America’s Changing Religious Landscape
Christianity Declining, Secularism Rising
The World's Newest Major Religion: No Religion
Ya'll forget, I'm a historian and sociologist, I still keep up with multiple demographic changes.
But your statistics don't include Albuquerque NM or East Liverpool OH specifically.
I judge these things about what I observe of friends, family, our neighbors, our church. (But I do appreciate that you are a sociologist and historian. So am I of sorts. Our daughter has a PhD in Sociology but I suppose osmosis doesn't help transfer any of that.)
Specific local demographics are endemic to the local and not always representative of the larger picture, national and international in this case. Heck, El Paso is a hot bed of Papist heretics......, I was considering selling dispensations....... (that was a joke...., I was raised Roman Chatholic.....)Why Are Christian Numbers Dropping?Immaculate Conception in Wellsville is an abandoned building. St. Ann's down on Pennsylvania Avenue is shut down. Both congregations no have been combined with St. Aloysius downtown and they now call the church Holy Trinity Roman Catholic. St. Blaise in Industry, PA is closed as a church, but open as a day care center.Different time, different culture. Church attendance is way down as is belief in a divine, the Me-llenials are part of it but it was the younger Boomers that showed the way so to speak.
There are fewer churches but more people seem to be going to church! Even though my own Trinity Presbyterian has merged with Long's Run Presbyterian there are more faces at Easter Pageant practice. The Northside Community Church two blocks west at Orchard Grove Avenue and St. Clair has congregants parking in front of the Luxurious Pimplebutt Estate every Sunday morning.
And, at the end of the day, I can't find a decent fish sandwich in a church basement anymore.
I think you're right. Church attendance doesn't seem to be suffering so much as there is much less loyalty to a particular congregation or sometimes even a denomination. Many small churches are giving up and the people are going to larger congregations who can afford dynamic preachers, great music, and visual aids as well as specific ministries to kids and special interests. I was just researching congregations of a specific denomination for a family member and found a church near her that seems to be small enough not to be overwhelming, but offers the full range of amenities dear to the more traditional sort. And they serve a full breakfast--not just coffee and donuts--after their early service and a full brunch after their mid morning service--the photos at their website were pretty impressive.
Don't know if you could get that great fish sandwich there though Nosmo.
Millennials leaving church in droves, study says - CNN
America’s Changing Religious Landscape
Christianity Declining, Secularism Rising
The World's Newest Major Religion: No Religion
Ya'll forget, I'm a historian and sociologist, I still keep up with multiple demographic changes.
But your statistics don't include Albuquerque NM or East Liverpool OH specifically.
I judge these things about what I observe of friends, family, our neighbors, our church. (But I do appreciate that you are a sociologist and historian. So am I of sorts. Our daughter has a PhD in Sociology but I suppose osmosis doesn't help transfer any of that.)
Besides it's not the first time we've moved towards the secular as a society but given history it wouldn't surprise me to see a Christian revival period somewhere down the road, we've experienced at least three major waves of religious revival since the early 18th century and a multitude of minor ones.
Limited perspective is fascinating to me. I remember David Letterman had a feature on his old NBC show where tradesmen would review popular movies. A plumber reviewed Fatal Attraction and noted the scene in which Micheal Douglas drowned Glenn Close in the bathtub. "The overflow drain would never let that much water stay in the tub." was his terse review.
Limited perspective is fascinating to me. I remember David Letterman had a feature on his old NBC show where tradesmen would review popular movies. A plumber reviewed Fatal Attraction and noted the scene in which Micheal Douglas drowned Glenn Close in the bathtub. "The overflow drain would never let that much water stay in the tub." was his terse review.
When I first saw All the President's Men in 1975 I saw a scene where Redford and Hoffmann walked into a building and immediately noticing the 9x9 vinyl floor tiles and identifying them as Asbestos Containing Building Materials.
Just as a rhinoceros' horn can alter an outlook, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Speaking of dangerous things, when Pop was just a little shaver, Uncle Ducky and Aunt Sis included him on a road trip vacation. It was the summer of 1941 and the last summer of peace in America. Ducky and Sis drove from East Liverpool to the wilds of the American west.
When they got to the entrance of Yellowstone National Park, Pop spied a billboard featuring a great beast with huge snarling fangs and claws that could tear human flesh from bones. A massive hairy beast without the familiar attributes of the cartoon nears my young father was familiar with. Above the picture of the bear were letters spelling out D-A-N-G-E-R-O-U-S
Pop timidly asked the park ranger, "Are there many of those dangeroos in the park?"
Strawberries were on sale........ so was whipped cream........ I love strawberry shortcake but hate the modern store bought cups they sell for it so mix up the dough and soon after there's biscuit shortcake ready to be consumed.![]()
I hate Bisquick........Strawberries were on sale........ so was whipped cream........ I love strawberry shortcake but hate the modern store bought cups they sell for it so mix up the dough and soon after there's biscuit shortcake ready to be consumed.![]()
I keep one box of Bisquick for just such contingencies.Strawberry shortcake is one of my favorites too, though if I have time I will bake a pound cake from scratch.
I hate Bisquick........Strawberries were on sale........ so was whipped cream........ I love strawberry shortcake but hate the modern store bought cups they sell for it so mix up the dough and soon after there's biscuit shortcake ready to be consumed.![]()
I keep one box of Bisquick for just such contingencies.Strawberry shortcake is one of my favorites too, though if I have time I will bake a pound cake from scratch.
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