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I think the underlying problem was not the gays themselves, but how the GOP has used the "gay issue" to distract from what they've been doing to the country for the last 30 years.
In 2004, Bush ran for re-election (except he really stole his original election) and the economy still kind of sucked and people were getting an inkling that the war in Iraq was the mother of all fuckups.
So, we need to protect the institution of marriage. And they ranted and raved on this issue, like they really thought it was important, and don't any of you dare point out that Cheney's daughter is a lesbian.
The real problem they have now is that people just aren't worked up about it anymore.
So no GOP nominee can win without oppossing gay marriage (even though that battle has effectively been lost) but he can't win outside the Bubba Redneck states spewing that nonsense anymore.
There are two occasions when I focus on homosexuality. One is when some shlub rants about the right of gays to marry. The other is when two hot ladies are doing what comes natural on the porn channel. Other than that...who won the game?
So how many more pages will go by before someone answers as to why lipstick lesbians are attracted to mannish acting/walking/talking/dressing "women" who wear strapon penises?
So how many more pages will go by before someone answers as to why lipstick lesbians are attracted to mannish acting/walking/talking/dressing "women" who wear strapon penises?
How many times will you ask a question that is an obvious stereotype and not true? Individual experiences are not universal truisms.
There are two occasions when I focus on homosexuality. One is when some shlub rants about the right of gays to marry. The other is when two hot ladies are doing what comes natural on the porn channel. Other than that...who won the game?
So it is "natural" and OK for 2 ladies to eat each other's snatch out but not to marry?
I could care less if they did it and/or married.
NEITHER affects me or you in any way.
There are two occasions when I focus on homosexuality. One is when some shlub rants about the right of gays to marry. The other is when two hot ladies are doing what comes natural on the porn channel. Other than that...who won the game?
So it is "natural" and OK for 2 ladies to eat each other's snatch out but not to marry?
I could care less if they did it and/or married.
NEITHER affects me or you in any way.
So the redefinition of basic institutions has no affect on you? Your mentality contributes to the sorry state of the culture as we slouch toward Gomorrah.
1. Gay people would not have to ask " why would I want to live this way" if they were not discriminated against by others. That is what that question refers to and THAT is why it is sad. It is not because homosexual people look at their orientation as an affliction of some kind....like OCD.
2. It is physically possible for a gay man to have sex with a gay woman and produce offspring. And.....should the need arise....they will. As long as a sufficient number of the babies born in the world are boys and a sufficient number are girls....the procreation part will take care of itself.
3.That whole idea about how we benefit from producing taxpayers was just a little weird. Homosexual men are males. Homosexual women are females. There is no "homosexual aspect" to the joining of sperm and egg.
4. Then...you went and suggested, if homosexuality is genetic ( as if that is still undecided ) that we need to have sperm donors declare their sexuality so people know that a gay person is the donor. You therefore suggest that if a gay dude donates spermatozoa......the resulting offspring will be gay. That is disturbingly inaccurate.
5. Is there deceit when it comes to sperm donors? Is there a conspiracy of some kind?
6. Therapy?
1. Why do you think we disagree on this? We don't, I simply think it's sad that they feel this way. But I also stated that those with OCD respond the same.
2. What would the need have to do with it, that's confusing
3. Not weird at all. Homosexuals prefer same sex relationships. They do not procreate within those relationships, that is exclusive to heterosexuals
4. I never suggested it destined an offspring to be gay, it may, pass the genes down the line. I see no benefit in less than full disclosure.
5. There could be, and that should be minimized. Do you disagree in full disclosure? Why?
6. If it is not genetic than we should look into the possibility.
No, procreation isn't exclusive to heterosexuals. Gays procreate all the time. We do it just like heterosexual couples do, with science.
You also need to learn a little something about genes.
Understanding Genetics
It does affect children, when trying to teach right from wrongSomeone else's sexual preferences do not affect me in any way, shape or form.
There are two occasions when I focus on homosexuality. One is when some shlub rants about the right of gays to marry. The other is when two hot ladies are doing what comes natural on the porn channel. Other than that...who won the game?
So it is "natural" and OK for 2 ladies to eat each other's snatch out but not to marry?
I could care less if they did it and/or married.
NEITHER affects me or you in any way.
So the redefinition of basic institutions has no affect on you? Your mentality contributes to the sorry state of the culture as we slouch toward Gomorrah.
1. Why do you think we disagree on this? We don't, I simply think it's sad that they feel this way. But I also stated that those with OCD respond the same.
2. What would the need have to do with it, that's confusing
3. Not weird at all. Homosexuals prefer same sex relationships. They do not procreate within those relationships, that is exclusive to heterosexuals
4. I never suggested it destined an offspring to be gay, it may, pass the genes down the line. I see no benefit in less than full disclosure.
5. There could be, and that should be minimized. Do you disagree in full disclosure? Why?
6. If it is not genetic than we should look into the possibility.
No, procreation isn't exclusive to heterosexuals. Gays procreate all the time. We do it just like heterosexual couples do, with science.
You also need to learn a little something about genes.
Understanding Genetics
If you can prove a same sex couple having sex causes procreation, then you have me. Some heterosexuals rely on science to procreate, the vast majority do not.
Live and let live. Not a hard policy to follow.
Yes, allowing the fundamenalist Christian to be who and what he is, allowing the more pragmatic historical Christian to be who and what he is, allowing the Jew to be who and what he is, allowing gay people to be who and what they are, allowing the traditionalist marriage heterosexual types to be who and what they are, and understanding that because they all come from a different place, they are not inherently evil or have evil motives--that is live and let live.
Not sure it is not a hard policy to follow though as so many here don't seem to be able to do that.
Being a member of the "traditional marriage heterosexual types" group....I can speak first hand to the fact that we have never....not for a moment...been denied the opportunity to be who and what we are. This is where you go off the rail.
Two people who love each other get married......and it victimizes you somehow. Right?
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So how many more pages will go by before someone answers as to why lipstick lesbians are attracted to mannish acting/walking/talking/dressing "women" who wear strapon penises?
How many times will you ask a question that is an obvious stereotype and not true? Individual experiences are not universal truisms.
So how many more pages will go by before someone answers as to why lipstick lesbians are attracted to mannish acting/walking/talking/dressing "women" who wear strapon penises?
How many times will you ask a question that is an obvious stereotype and not true? Individual experiences are not universal truisms.
Yes, it is true . Dykes attracted to Butch Lesbianbs or Bull Dykes is very common. There have been no scientific studies done on the issue that I am personally aware of , but to deny it is a reflection of your continuos ignorance [SeaHag].
Silhouette: Just a hypothesis : Lipstick lesbians and etc... are frequently attracted to Bull Dykes as an offshoot of their natural attraction to men. This attraction was perverted somewhere along the way, perhaps they were abused in early childhood- which a very large percentage of homosexuasl were, perhaps some other factor caused their dysphoria - who knows for sure - every case is different - but what is pretty close to certain is that something occurred in their psycological sexual development which caused them to become mentally and sexually perverted - However, a trace element of the natural normal healthy human female lingers which is the cause of their attraction to Woman that look like men, and theirfear of real men in a sexual context.
So how many more pages will go by before someone answers as to why lipstick lesbians are attracted to mannish acting/walking/talking/dressing "women" who wear strapon penises?
How many times will you ask a question that is an obvious stereotype and not true? Individual experiences are not universal truisms.
Yes, it is true . Dykes attracted to Butch Lesbianbs or Bull Dykes is very common. There have been no scientific studies done on the issue that I am personally aware of , but to deny it is a reflection of your continuos ignorance [SeaHag].
Silhouette: Just a hypothesis : Lipstick lesbians and etc... are frequently attracted to Bull Dykes as an offshoot of their natural attraction to men. This attraction was perverted somewhere along the way, perhaps they were abused in early childhood- which a very large percentage of homosexuasl were, perhaps some other factor caused their dysphoria - who knows for sure - every case is different - but what is pretty close to certain is that something occurred in their psycological sexual development which caused them to become mentally and sexually perverted - but a small element of the natural normal human lingers which is the cause of their attraction to Woman that look like men.
How many times will you ask a question that is an obvious stereotype and not true? Individual experiences are not universal truisms.
Yes, it is true . Dykes attracted to Butch Lesbianbs or Bull Dykes is very common. There have been no scientific studies done on the issue that I am personally aware of , but to deny it is a reflection of your continuos ignorance [SeaHag].
Silhouette: Just a hypothesis : Lipstick lesbians and etc... are frequently attracted to Bull Dykes as an offshoot of their natural attraction to men. This attraction was perverted somewhere along the way, perhaps they were abused in early childhood- which a very large percentage of homosexuasl were, perhaps some other factor caused their dysphoria - who knows for sure - every case is different - but what is pretty close to certain is that something occurred in their psycological sexual development which caused them to become mentally and sexually perverted - but a small element of the natural normal human lingers which is the cause of their attraction to Woman that look like men.
"very large % of homosexuals were abused in early childhood"
Yes, it is true . Dykes attracted to Butch Lesbianbs or Bull Dykes is very common. There have been no scientific studies done on the issue that I am personally aware of , but to deny it is a reflection of your continuos ignorance [SeaHag].
Silhouette: Just a hypothesis : Lipstick lesbians and etc... are frequently attracted to Bull Dykes as an offshoot of their natural attraction to men. This attraction was perverted somewhere along the way, perhaps they were abused in early childhood- which a very large percentage of homosexuasl were, perhaps some other factor caused their dysphoria - who knows for sure - every case is different - but what is pretty close to certain is that something occurred in their psycological sexual development which caused them to become mentally and sexually perverted - but a small element of the natural normal human lingers which is the cause of their attraction to Woman that look like men.
"very large % of homosexuals were abused in early childhood"
Actually, a very large percentage of women are sexually abused. 1 in 5. That's a disturbing statistic that should concern everyone.
I have an ex that was sexually abused by her grandfather. She had two sisters a year apart, but grandpa never touched them. She always speculated that he knew she was "different" and that's why he chose her. The abuse had nothing to do with her being gay, but being gay may have "invited" the abuse.
She always speculated that he knew she was "different" and that's why he chose her. The abuse had nothing to do with her being gay, but being gay may have "invited" the abuse.
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