Vatican court head: No communion for Nancy Pelosi

[QuickHitCurepon]

Ummm... no, not really.

The Churches got a specific exemption for CHURCH operations.

All the other businesses they own have to obey the law just like the rest of us do.

The insanity that you don't have to obey a law because it is against your religion will just lead to chaos.

How many years have you gone to church?

I ran screaming from organized religion right after the nun told me God had a good reason for my mom to die of cancer.

That's a pitiful attempt at an answer. What religion are you?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Finally, FINALLY the Catholic Church stands for its own beliefs it is about time. Folks may not agree with the RCC view on abortion and if they don't then they should pretend to be that which they are not. Pelosi embraces a pagan view of life she should be excommunicated. Still hope. Next Biden.

Excommunication isn't enough.

Anathema ritual would be much more appropriate.

"Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive N-- himself and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment."

Whereupon all the assistants respond: "Fiat, fiat, fiat." The pontiff and the twelve priests then cast to the ground the lighted candles they have been carrying, and notice is sent in writing to the priests and neighbouring bishops of the name of the one who has been excommunicated and the cause of his excommunication, in order that they may have no communication with him. Although he is delivered to Satan and his angels, he can still, and is even bound to repent. The Pontifical gives the form for absolving him and reconciling him with the Church. The promulgation of the anathema with such solemnity is well calculated to strike terror to the criminal and bring him to a state of repentance, especially if the Church adds to it the ceremony of the Maranatha.

 

[Pogo]

Finally, FINALLY the Catholic Church stands for its own beliefs it is about time. Folks may not agree with the RCC view on abortion and if they don't then they should pretend to be that which they are not. Pelosi embraces a pagan view of life she should be excommunicated. Still hope. Next Biden.

What the fuck is a "pagan view of life"?

Whatever the answer to that, isn't the rest of your post kind of ironic considering your own screen name?

 

[Esmeralda]

The woman you are referring to in your post that the Church denies birth control pills to has no need to belong to the Catholic Church then.

If one wants to belong to the Catholic Church one plays by the rules. If you don't like the rules, don't be a member.

It's not rocket science.

No, it isn't.

It's also hypocritical when the Catholic Church knows DAMNED WELL 96% of their faithful are practicing some kind of birth control.

And a lot of them are living together without the benefit of marriage for YEARS before actually tying the knot in a church.

But they turn a blind eye to these sorts of thing because no one wants a buzzkill from the pulpit judging them, and damn, those pews are already empty enough on regular services on Sunday.

either you are going to be strict on sin, or you're not.

That's why Obama is a spineless jelly fish. He should have pushed for a vote to limit birth control, when he had the chance.

 

[Pogo]

Finally, FINALLY the Catholic Church stands for its own beliefs it is about time. Folks may not agree with the RCC view on abortion and if they don't then they should pretend to be that which they are not. Pelosi embraces a pagan view of life she should be excommunicated. Still hope. Next Biden.

Excommunication isn't enough.

Anathema ritual would be much more appropriate.

"Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive N-- himself and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment."

Whereupon all the assistants respond: "Fiat, fiat, fiat." The pontiff and the twelve priests then cast to the ground the lighted candles they have been carrying, and notice is sent in writing to the priests and neighbouring bishops of the name of the one who has been excommunicated and the cause of his excommunication, in order that they may have no communication with him. Although he is delivered to Satan and his angels, he can still, and is even bound to repent. The Pontifical gives the form for absolving him and reconciling him with the Church. The promulgation of the anathema with such solemnity is well calculated to strike terror to the criminal and bring him to a state of repentance, especially if the Church adds to it the ceremony of the Maranatha.

You're Jewish. What do you know from "appropriate"?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

No, it isn't.

It's also hypocritical when the Catholic Church knows DAMNED WELL 96% of their faithful are practicing some kind of birth control.

And a lot of them are living together without the benefit of marriage for YEARS before actually tying the knot in a church.

But they turn a blind eye to these sorts of thing because no one wants a buzzkill from the pulpit judging them, and damn, those pews are already empty enough on regular services on Sunday.

either you are going to be strict on sin, or you're not.

That's why Obama is a spineless jelly fish. He should have pushed for a vote to limit birth control, when he had the chance.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4qIMGrc4HM&list=PL062F666282BF801B]Kuan Yin - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The three great evils in the world are Islam, the Catholic Church, and the Republican Party.

Nancy Pelosi supports two of them, you support her, what does that say about you?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

You're Jewish. What do you know from "appropriate"?

Jews and Muslims tend to know about Christianity more than most Christians.

Also, the ritual I cited was done reenacted in the Showtime series "The Borgias," which is where I first learned of it.

 

[Unkotare]

Well, I'm more potent than your imaginary sky man....

Your awareness of your complete and utter impotence and insignificance is why you hate yourself so much.

 

[Unkotare]

JoeNobody failed as a human being, intellectually and morally, early on and hasn't forgiven himself since. Instead, he has decided that humiliating and degrading himself more and more is his only option. It's sad.

 

[syrenn]

Interesting.

I know this has been an on again, off again subject for debate over the years... Should the Catholic Church allow abortion supporters to have communion or not... It seems that the answer has been given... at least for now.

No communion for Nancy Pelosi: Vatican court head - Washington Times

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has no Catholic right to be granted Communion, said the leading cardinal of the highest court at the Vatican.

Mrs. Pelosi should be denied Communion until she changes her advocacy views on abortion, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said, according to the Western Center for Journalism.

That’s canon law, not opinion, he said. Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”

And Cardinal Burke said Mrs. Pelosi fits the definition.

“Certainly this is a case when Canon 915 must be applied,” he said, the Western Center for Journalism reported. “This is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin — cooperating with the crime of procured abortion — and still professes to be a devout Catholic.”

The cardinal also said that Mrs. Pelosi is a perfect example of Catholics who separate their faith from day-to-day living.

“This is a prime example of what Blessed John Paul II referred to as the situation of Catholics who have divorced their faith from their public life and therefore are not serving their brothers and sisters in the way that they must — in safeguarding and promoting the life of the innocent and defenseless unborn, in safeguarding and promoting the integrity of marriage and the family,” he said.

so they excommunicated her did they? That is pretty darn funny!!!

 

[Esmeralda]

You're Jewish. What do you know from "appropriate"?

Jews and Muslims tend to know about Christianity more than most Christians.

This is one of the stupidest, most self serving comments I've ever read.

 

[Pogo]

You're Jewish. What do you know from "appropriate"?

Jews and Muslims tend to know about Christianity more than most Christians.

This is one of the stupidest, most self serving comments I've ever read.

Of course. He just admitted he got it from cable TV.

Point remains 2A -- you're not even of the faith, so your deeming of what's "appropriate" is pulling it out of your ass. Or from a TV show, which is the same thing.

 

[JoeB131]

JoeNobody failed as a human being, intellectually and morally, early on and hasn't forgiven himself since. Instead, he has decided that humiliating and degrading himself more and more is his only option. It's sad.

And here you are, snivelling and whining because you are so unhappy.

While I usually ignore you because you add nothing to a conversation...

As usual.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

The woman you are referring to in your post that the Church denies birth control pills to has no need to belong to the Catholic Church then.

If one wants to belong to the Catholic Church one plays by the rules. If you don't like the rules, don't be a member.

It's not rocket science.

No, it isn't.

It's also hypocritical when the Catholic Church knows DAMNED WELL 96% of their faithful are practicing some kind of birth control.

And a lot of them are living together without the benefit of marriage for YEARS before actually tying the knot in a church.

But they turn a blind eye to these sorts of thing because no one wants a buzzkill from the pulpit judging them, and damn, those pews are already empty enough on regular services on Sunday.

either you are going to be strict on sin, or you're not.

That's why Obama is a spineless jelly fish. He should have pushed for a vote to expand birth control in the Catholic church, when he had the chance.

I fixed my quote.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/23/us-usa-courts-obama-idUSBRE93M17H20130423

 

[Unkotare]

JoeNobody failed as a human being, intellectually and morally, early on and hasn't forgiven himself since. Instead, he has decided that humiliating and degrading himself more and more is his only option. It's sad.

And here you are, snivelling [sic] and whining because you are so unhappy.

"snivelling [sic] and whining"? You read as poorly as you spell, JoeNobody.

 

[JoeB131]

JoeNobody failed as a human being, intellectually and morally, early on and hasn't forgiven himself since. Instead, he has decided that humiliating and degrading himself more and more is his only option. It's sad.

And here you are, snivelling [sic] and whining because you are so unhappy.

"snivelling [sic] and whining"? You read as poorly as you spell, JoeNobody.

Bitch, you ain't worth a spell check, but I make money off my writing, unlike you.

 

[JoeB131]

No, it isn't.

It's also hypocritical when the Catholic Church knows DAMNED WELL 96% of their faithful are practicing some kind of birth control.

And a lot of them are living together without the benefit of marriage for YEARS before actually tying the knot in a church.

But they turn a blind eye to these sorts of thing because no one wants a buzzkill from the pulpit judging them, and damn, those pews are already empty enough on regular services on Sunday.

either you are going to be strict on sin, or you're not.

That's why Obama is a spineless jelly fish. He should have pushed for a vote to expand birth control in the Catholic church, when he had the chance.

I fixed my quote.

]

Don't worry, it STILL doesn't make a lick of sense.

 

[Antares]

And here you are, snivelling [sic] and whining because you are so unhappy.

"snivelling [sic] and whining"? You read as poorly as you spell, JoeNobody.

Bitch, you ain't worth a spell check, but I make money off my writing, unlike you.

Which means you have no opinions of your own, you are paid to parrot....we get it.

Dumbfuck.

 

[Unkotare]

And here you are, snivelling [sic] and whining because you are so unhappy.

"snivelling [sic] and whining"? You read as poorly as you spell, JoeNobody.

Bitch, you ain't worth a spell check.

= you are too stupid to spell correctly and too lazy to do anything about it.