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What can they sue for? Firing people is not illegal. Yet.
We'll fix that, eventually.
You think so, comrade?
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What can they sue for? Firing people is not illegal. Yet.
We'll fix that, eventually.
He doesn't have to use Obama for that. His is a right to work state and he doesn't need a reason to fire anyone. He knows his costs are rising due to ObamaTax and a contracting economy and is being preemptive in dealing with them. Obama has proven that he is a fiscal idiot. He even said that he had trouble with his child's 7th grade math. Business people don't trust him.
So the President is expected to have been an A grade student in math? I suck at maths, but I would never let anyone tell me that I couldn't hold down my dream job because of it.
Well, he was head of the Law Dept at Harvard, so I assume he had pretty decent grades.
He doesn't have to use Obama for that. His is a right to work state and he doesn't need a reason to fire anyone. He knows his costs are rising due to ObamaTax and a contracting economy and is being preemptive in dealing with them. Obama has proven that he is a fiscal idiot. He even said that he had trouble with his child's 7th grade math. Business people don't trust him.
So the President is expected to have been an A grade student in math? I suck at maths, but I would never let anyone tell me that I couldn't hold down my dream job because of it.
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What can they sue for? Firing people is not illegal. Yet.
We'll fix that, eventually.
You think so, comrade?
When we realize the economy is based on workers and consumers, and not rich douchebags reading Ayn Rand, yeah, we will fix this.
Of course, we wouldn't have to fix it if we just kept what we had after the New Deal and WWII.
You think so, comrade?
When we realize the economy is based on workers and consumers, and not rich douchebags reading Ayn Rand, yeah, we will fix this.
Of course, we wouldn't have to fix it if we just kept what we had after the New Deal and WWII.
For the Motherland!
LOL
I stopped reading after this
David (he asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT
So basically you people want us to comment on the actions of a person who may or may not be lying?
How stupid are you people, anyway?
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What can they sue for? Firing people is not illegal. Yet.
We'll fix that, eventually.
Actually, if this guy is on the level, he may have violated some labor law or the other.
He certainly sounds like a guy to make an example of. Doesn't sound like he has the resources to really fight back against a determined effort.
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What can they sue for? Firing people is not illegal. Yet.
We'll fix that, eventually.
Actually, if this guy is on the level, he may have violated some labor law or the other.
He certainly sounds like a guy to make an example of. Doesn't sound like he has the resources to really fight back against a determined effort.
Yeah. Because the remaining employees don't deserve jobs. Fuck 'em.
There's the union thug mentality at work.
When we realize the economy is based on workers and consumers, and not rich douchebags reading Ayn Rand, yeah, we will fix this.
Of course, we wouldn't have to fix it if we just kept what we had after the New Deal and WWII.
For the Motherland!
LOL
Again, what's wrong with going back to what I grew up with. Working class people having good union jobs, getting a good paycheck, and being able to live a nice life. Mom stays home with the kids until they are old enough to go to school if she wants to.
But somewhere, we ran into Herbert Hoover's admonition- "The problem with Capitalism is Capitalists. They're too damned Greedy".
In 1980, a CEO made 40 times what a line worker makes. And that was just fine. Today, a CEO makes 400 times what a line worker makes. That's fucking batshit insane.
Nothing is inherently 'wrong' with it.
That 30 year postwar boom that you dream about was a moment in time which will never be repeated unless we bomb the rest of the industrial world out again.
Today, we have competition who will work harder for less, and you Liberals are the least likely demographic to support a union worker in America by purchasing their goods and services.
So stop being a fucking idiot.
That is a craven statement if there ever was one, Joe. You wouldn't put your family's money on the line I'm betting. That guy who fired those people? He probably had to borrow money to pay salaries and is just trying to stay in business so he doesn't have to fire the other 80% of people who work for him.We'll fix that, eventually.
Actually, if this guy is on the level, he may have violated some labor law or the other.
He certainly sounds like a guy to make an example of. Doesn't sound like he has the resources to really fight back against a determined effort.
Yeah. Because the remaining employees don't deserve jobs. Fuck 'em.
There's the union thug mentality at work.
Honestly, if I had a boss who said, "I'm having a hissy because I didn't like the way the election turned out, so I'm firing 20% of you!" I would want to get the hell out of there even if I wasn't one of the 20%. So should most sensible people. The guy sounds like a real asshole to work for.
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That is a craven statement if there ever was one, Joe. You wouldn't put your family's money on the line I'm betting. That guy who fired those people? He probably had to borrow money to pay salaries and is just trying to stay in business so he doesn't have to fire the other 80% of people who work for him.
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And the press says nothin' unless there's an "R" for Republican behind their name. The "D" means "don't touch."
+I hope those employees sue the shit out of that crybaby right wing piece of trash (if it's even true)
Companies do not usually need a reason to lay people off. If the story is true though, then this individual owner is just being stupid because he doesn't yet have a clue whether there will be any additonal costs. If he does not provide health insurance currently, then he would be faced with a huge new expense, because he has over 50 employees. The thing is that even if he does faced increased costs, so will his competitors, so the costs can be passed on so he can still remain competitive.
Where there is a valid argument is if an employer must all of a sudden provide health insurance which increases costs, and that company's competitors are in foreign countries where they do not have the cost of health insurance to deal with because they have government provided health insurance. Of course, then that argument opens up the argument that employers should not be responsible for providing health insurance at all in the US because it makes companies less competitive, thereby making the argument for government run healthcare.
Anyway, good luck to this man as he has reduced the size of his business and will probably make less money in the long run due to his own stubborness. It is obvious he based his decision on a knee jerk reaction to not getting what he wanted.
Wow, is this guy your cousin? Your college roomate? Because it was one anonymous interview and yet you seem to know everything about his business.
Every business owner I know with over 50 employees is scrambling to figure out how to deal with this. Even if they offer health insurance, if it doesn't conform with Obaamcare mandates then they might as well not. Their premiums will go up. This is a certainty. Their revenues likely will not. So rather than run their companies into the ground by over-staffing they are reducing headcount. That's what sensible people and orgs do: try to live within their means. The others voted for Obama.
Nothing is inherently 'wrong' with it.
That 30 year postwar boom that you dream about was a moment in time which will never be repeated unless we bomb the rest of the industrial world out again.
Today, we have competition who will work harder for less, and you Liberals are the least likely demographic to support a union worker in America by purchasing their goods and services.
So stop being a fucking idiot.
Yawn...
Funny, how come it is always that the working man has to do with less, even though his wages have gone down, but the investors and CEO's just keep getting more, and that's fine with you clowns.
Nothing is inherently 'wrong' with it.
That 30 year postwar boom that you dream about was a moment in time which will never be repeated unless we bomb the rest of the industrial world out again.
Today, we have competition who will work harder for less, and you Liberals are the least likely demographic to support a union worker in America by purchasing their goods and services.
So stop being a fucking idiot.
Yawn...
Funny, how come it is always that the working man has to do with less, even though his wages have gone down, but the investors and CEO's just keep getting more, and that's fine with you clowns.
Nothing is inherently 'wrong' with it.
That 30 year postwar boom that you dream about was a moment in time which will never be repeated unless we bomb the rest of the industrial world out again.
Today, we have competition who will work harder for less, and you Liberals are the least likely demographic to support a union worker in America by purchasing their goods and services.
So stop being a fucking idiot.
Yawn...
Funny, how come it is always that the working man has to do with less, even though his wages have gone down, but the investors and CEO's just keep getting more, and that's fine with you clowns.
I give you facts, and you ignore them and give us Leftist whining.
But America gets what it deserves this time around.
We'll fix that, eventually.
Actually, if this guy is on the level, he may have violated some labor law or the other.
He certainly sounds like a guy to make an example of. Doesn't sound like he has the resources to really fight back against a determined effort.
Yeah. Because the remaining employees don't deserve jobs. Fuck 'em.
There's the union thug mentality at work.
Honestly, if I had a boss who said, "I'm having a hissy because I didn't like the way the election turned out, so I'm firing 20% of you!" I would want to get the hell out of there even if I wasn't one of the 20%. So should most sensible people. The guy sounds like a real asshole to work for.
When we realize the economy is based on workers and consumers, and not rich douchebags reading Ayn Rand, yeah, we will fix this.
Of course, we wouldn't have to fix it if we just kept what we had after the New Deal and WWII.