Venezuela socialism. Inevitably what to look forward to in America.

[PoliticalChic]

Pick up a newspaper once in a while, you dunce.

Scandinavia has move to more conservative practices....

"The Economist: The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge
Feb 2nd 2013|From the print edition

1. THIRTY YEARS AGO Margaret Thatcher turned Britain into the world’s leading centre of “thinking the unthinkable”. Today that distinction has passed to Sweden….Sweden has reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP from 67% in 1993 to 49% today…. It has also cut the top marginal tax rate by 27 percentage points since 1983, to 57%, and scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance. This year it is cutting the corporate-tax rate from 26.3% to 22%.
2. Sweden has also donned the golden straitjacket of fiscal orthodoxy with its pledge to produce a fiscal surplus over the economic cycle. Its public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010, and its budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3% over the same period.
3. Most daringly, it has introduced a universal system of school vouchers and invited private schools to compete with public ones. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly….Sweden is pioneering “a new conservative model”…
4. …Sweden’s quiet revolution has brought about a dramatic change in its economic performance. The two decades from 1970 were a period of decline: the country was demoted from being the world’s fourth-richest in 1970 to 14th-richest in 1993, …The two decades from 1990 were a period of recovery: GDP growth between 1993 and 2010 averaged 2.7% a year and productivity 2.1% a year, compared with 1.9% and 1% respectively for the main 15 EU countries.
5. For most of the 20th century Sweden prided itself on offering what Marquis Childs called, in his 1936 book of that title, a “Middle Way” between capitalism and socialism…As the decades rolled by, the middle way veered left. The government kept growing: public spending as a share of GDP nearly doubled from 1960 to 1980 and peaked at 67% in 1993.
   1. Taxes kept rising. The Social Democrats (who ruled Sweden for 44 uninterrupted years from 1932 to 1976 and for 21 out of the 24 years from 1982 to 2006) kept squeezing business. “The era of neo-capitalism is drawing to an end,” said Olof Palme, the party’s leader, in 1974. “It is some kind of socialism that is the key to the future.”
6. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
7. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
8. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
9. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
10. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian



a. reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP
b. cut the top marginal tax rate
c. scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance.
d. cutting the corporate-tax rate
e. pledge to produce a fiscal surplus
f. public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010
g. budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3%
h. a universal system of school vouchers
i. invited private schools to compete with public ones.
j. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly


the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state.

That didn't even mention the counties I listed

"That didn't even mention the counties I listed "
Really?


Did you write this?
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."


Did you read this?

• The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.

• But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.

1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.

• Can you read this?

• "The Nordic countries are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic, where it is most commonly known as Norden. It consists of Scandinavia and Finland. Or Denmark, the Faroe Islands, and Greenland - all these three are parts of the Danish Realm(Rigsfælledsabet) -, Finland and its autonomous regions, the Åland Islands, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. "

• Nordic countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• This hasn't been a good day for you, huh.

They were not mentioned in the cut-and-paste dump you posted.

The proof that I posted included this, you liar:

1. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
2. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
3. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
4. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
5. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian


And, as I just proved, Norway is a Nordic country.





So....not only did I prove you to be ignorant....but a liar as well.

With those characteristics....you must be a Liberal, huh?

It didn't mention it specifically. Just Sweden and Denmark.

No, you said this:
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."

And the Economist referred to Norway thus: Nordic countries.



You Liberals seem to feel you have the right to lie when it suits you.....

....you're abusing the privilege.

 

[Theowl32]

Pick up a newspaper once in a while, you dunce.

Scandinavia has move to more conservative practices....

"The Economist: The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge
Feb 2nd 2013|From the print edition

1. THIRTY YEARS AGO Margaret Thatcher turned Britain into the world’s leading centre of “thinking the unthinkable”. Today that distinction has passed to Sweden….Sweden has reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP from 67% in 1993 to 49% today…. It has also cut the top marginal tax rate by 27 percentage points since 1983, to 57%, and scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance. This year it is cutting the corporate-tax rate from 26.3% to 22%.
2. Sweden has also donned the golden straitjacket of fiscal orthodoxy with its pledge to produce a fiscal surplus over the economic cycle. Its public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010, and its budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3% over the same period.
3. Most daringly, it has introduced a universal system of school vouchers and invited private schools to compete with public ones. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly….Sweden is pioneering “a new conservative model”…
4. …Sweden’s quiet revolution has brought about a dramatic change in its economic performance. The two decades from 1970 were a period of decline: the country was demoted from being the world’s fourth-richest in 1970 to 14th-richest in 1993, …The two decades from 1990 were a period of recovery: GDP growth between 1993 and 2010 averaged 2.7% a year and productivity 2.1% a year, compared with 1.9% and 1% respectively for the main 15 EU countries.
5. For most of the 20th century Sweden prided itself on offering what Marquis Childs called, in his 1936 book of that title, a “Middle Way” between capitalism and socialism…As the decades rolled by, the middle way veered left. The government kept growing: public spending as a share of GDP nearly doubled from 1960 to 1980 and peaked at 67% in 1993.
   1. Taxes kept rising. The Social Democrats (who ruled Sweden for 44 uninterrupted years from 1932 to 1976 and for 21 out of the 24 years from 1982 to 2006) kept squeezing business. “The era of neo-capitalism is drawing to an end,” said Olof Palme, the party’s leader, in 1974. “It is some kind of socialism that is the key to the future.”
6. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
7. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
8. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
9. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
10. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian



a. reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP
b. cut the top marginal tax rate
c. scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance.
d. cutting the corporate-tax rate
e. pledge to produce a fiscal surplus
f. public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010
g. budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3%
h. a universal system of school vouchers
i. invited private schools to compete with public ones.
j. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly


the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state.

That didn't even mention the counties I listed

"That didn't even mention the counties I listed "
Really?


Did you write this?
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."


Did you read this?

• The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.

• But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.

1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.

• Can you read this?

• "The Nordic countries are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic, where it is most commonly known as Norden. It consists of Scandinavia and Finland. Or Denmark, the Faroe Islands, and Greenland - all these three are parts of the Danish Realm(Rigsfælledsabet) -, Finland and its autonomous regions, the Åland Islands, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. "

• Nordic countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• This hasn't been a good day for you, huh.

They were not mentioned in the cut-and-paste dump you posted.

The proof that I posted included this, you liar:

1. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
2. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
3. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
4. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
5. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian


And, as I just proved, Norway is a Nordic country.





So....not only did I prove you to be ignorant....but a liar as well.

With those characteristics....you must be a Liberal, huh?

It didn't mention it specifically. Just Sweden and Denmark.

There it is folks. Always an ignorant American socialist (truly the dumbest people on earth) who inevtiably brings up the Scandinavian countries.

But but but Norway and Denmark and Sweden!!!!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------
In response to Americans frequently referring to his country as socialist, theprime minister of Denmark recently remarked in a lecture at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government,

I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.

The Scandinavians embrace a brand of free-market capitalism that exists in conjunction with a large welfare state, known as the “Nordic Model,” which includes many policies that democratic socialists would likely abhor.

For example, democratic socialists are generally opponents of global capitalism and free trade, but the Scandinavian countries have fully embraced these things. The Economist magazine describes the Scandinavian countries as “stout free-traders who resist the temptation to intervene even to protect iconic companies.” Perhaps this is why Denmark, Norway, and Sweden rank among the most globalized countries in the entire world. These countries all also rank in the top 10 easiest countries to do business in.

How do supporters of Bernie Sanders feel about the minimum wage? You will find no such government-imposed floors on labor in Sweden, Norway, or Denmark. Instead, minimum wages are decided by collective-bargaining agreements between unions and employers; they typically vary on an occupational or industrial basis. Union-imposed wages lock out the least skilled and do their own damage to an economy, but such a decentralized system is still arguably a much better way of doing things than having the central government set a one-size fits all wage policy that covers every occupation nationwide.

In a move that would be considered radically pro-capitalist by young Americans who #FeelTheBern, Sweden adopted a universal school choice system in the 1990s that is nearly identical to the system proposed by libertarian economist Milton Friedman his 1955 essay, “The Role of Government in Education.”
The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism | Corey Iacono

^^^the myth of Scandanavian socialist systems that losers like this always bring up whenever anyone like me points out the horrors and truth about socialist conditions for the poor.

 

[Agit8r]

That didn't even mention the counties I listed

"That didn't even mention the counties I listed "
Really?


Did you write this?
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."


Did you read this?

• The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.

• But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.

1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.

• Can you read this?

• "The Nordic countries are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic, where it is most commonly known as Norden. It consists of Scandinavia and Finland. Or Denmark, the Faroe Islands, and Greenland - all these three are parts of the Danish Realm(Rigsfælledsabet) -, Finland and its autonomous regions, the Åland Islands, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. "

• Nordic countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• This hasn't been a good day for you, huh.

They were not mentioned in the cut-and-paste dump you posted.

The proof that I posted included this, you liar:

1. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
2. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
3. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
4. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
5. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian


And, as I just proved, Norway is a Nordic country.





So....not only did I prove you to be ignorant....but a liar as well.

With those characteristics....you must be a Liberal, huh?

It didn't mention it specifically. Just Sweden and Denmark.

No, you said this:
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."

And the Economist referred to Norway thus: Nordic countries.



You Liberals seem to feel you have the right to lie when it suits you.....

....you're abusing the privilege.

Well, Norway wasn't in the passage you quoted. Period.

 

[RDD_1210]

I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts.

Oh, you are one of those dupes who believe things are going soooo great in those countries.

You do not consider yourself to be intelligent do you?

Most major measurements point to things being in very good shape in many of those countries. Better than here for sure.

Of course.

***socialist propaganda alert***

Spoken truly by a person who OBVIOUSLY never lived under those conditions.

That or he is a trust fund worthless loser who has no clue what life is truly like for those who are ambitious and are living in the poor class in those socialist utopias.

Either way, he has absolutely no clue. He is a liar. That is for damn sure.

So do you ever use fact or just purely emotion based opinion?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"That didn't even mention the counties I listed "
Really?


Did you write this?
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."


Did you read this?

• The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.

• But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.

1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.

• Can you read this?

• "The Nordic countries are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic, where it is most commonly known as Norden. It consists of Scandinavia and Finland. Or Denmark, the Faroe Islands, and Greenland - all these three are parts of the Danish Realm(Rigsfælledsabet) -, Finland and its autonomous regions, the Åland Islands, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. "

• Nordic countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• This hasn't been a good day for you, huh.

They were not mentioned in the cut-and-paste dump you posted.

The proof that I posted included this, you liar:

1. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
2. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
3. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
4. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
5. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian


And, as I just proved, Norway is a Nordic country.





So....not only did I prove you to be ignorant....but a liar as well.

With those characteristics....you must be a Liberal, huh?

It didn't mention it specifically. Just Sweden and Denmark.

No, you said this:
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."

And the Economist referred to Norway thus: Nordic countries.



You Liberals seem to feel you have the right to lie when it suits you.....

....you're abusing the privilege.

Well, Norway wasn't in the passage you quoted. Period.

Stop lying.

Nordic includes Norway.



Now, it seems it has fallen to me to teach you manners as well as all the other subjects I teach you.

Your obligation, when your error is pointed out to you, is to admit same and say 'thank you.'


Jot that down.

 

[Agit8r]

That didn't even mention the counties I listed

"That didn't even mention the counties I listed "
Really?


List of minimum wages by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Did you write this?
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."


Did you read this?

• The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.

• But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.

1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.

• Can you read this?

• "The Nordic countries are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic, where it is most commonly known as Norden. It consists of Scandinavia and Finland. Or Denmark, the Faroe Islands, and Greenland - all these three are parts of the Danish Realm(Rigsfælledsabet) -, Finland and its autonomous regions, the Åland Islands, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. "

• Nordic countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• This hasn't been a good day for you, huh.

They were not mentioned in the cut-and-paste dump you posted.

The proof that I posted included this, you liar:

1. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
2. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
3. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
4. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
5. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian


And, as I just proved, Norway is a Nordic country.





So....not only did I prove you to be ignorant....but a liar as well.

With those characteristics....you must be a Liberal, huh?

It didn't mention it specifically. Just Sweden and Denmark.

There it is folks. Always an ignorant American socialist (truly the dumbest people on earth) who inevtiably brings up the Scandinavian countries.

But but but Norway and Denmark and Sweden!!!!!!!
----------------------------------------------------------
In response to Americans frequently referring to his country as socialist, theprime minister of Denmark recently remarked in a lecture at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government,

I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.

The Scandinavians embrace a brand of free-market capitalism that exists in conjunction with a large welfare state, known as the “Nordic Model,” which includes many policies that democratic socialists would likely abhor.

For example, democratic socialists are generally opponents of global capitalism and free trade, but the Scandinavian countries have fully embraced these things. The Economist magazine describes the Scandinavian countries as “stout free-traders who resist the temptation to intervene even to protect iconic companies.” Perhaps this is why Denmark, Norway, and Sweden rank among the most globalized countries in the entire world. These countries all also rank in the top 10 easiest countries to do business in.

How do supporters of Bernie Sanders feel about the minimum wage? You will find no such government-imposed floors on labor in Sweden, Norway, or Denmark. Instead, minimum wages are decided by collective-bargaining agreements between unions and employers; they typically vary on an occupational or industrial basis. Union-imposed wages lock out the least skilled and do their own damage to an economy, but such a decentralized system is still arguably a much better way of doing things than having the central government set a one-size fits all wage policy that covers every occupation nationwide.

In a move that would be considered radically pro-capitalist by young Americans who #FeelTheBern, Sweden adopted a universal school choice system in the 1990s that is nearly identical to the system proposed by libertarian economist Milton Friedman his 1955 essay, “The Role of Government in Education.”
The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism | Corey Iacono

^^^the myth of Scandanavian socialist systems that losers like this always bring up whenever anyone like me points out the horrors and truth about socialist conditions for the poor.

Norway seems to have light syndicalism. The others I mentioned have a minimum wage.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Anyone that doesn't understand that Venezuela is a communist dictatorship that doesn't understand economics...Well, isn't worth debating.

You're dumber then shit.

Many western Europe and eastern Asian societies uses social democracy! As I stated above our out of control private sector that is disfunctioning in health care and putting students into debt.

 

[Theowl32]

Poor American socialists (the dumbest people on the planet and I am being polite about it) just hate the facts in regards to the utter disaster socialism is.

The liars think living in Norway or Sweden or Canada is better than here.

Damn, there must be droves of Americans moving to those countries.

Oh, there isn't? Huh.

You see? They are all liars.

 

[Theowl32]

Anyone that doesn't understand that Venezuela is a communist dictatorship that doesn't understand economics...Well, isn't worth debating.

You're dumber then shit.

Many western Europe and eastern Asian societies uses social democracy! As I stated above our out of country private sector is what is disfunctioning in health care and putting students into debt.

You are a liar. An ignorant liar.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"That didn't even mention the counties I listed "
Really?


List of minimum wages by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Did you write this?
"I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts."


Did you read this?

• The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.

• But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.

1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.

• Can you read this?

• "The Nordic countries are a geographical and cultural region in Northern Europe and the North Atlantic, where it is most commonly known as Norden. It consists of Scandinavia and Finland. Or Denmark, the Faroe Islands, and Greenland - all these three are parts of the Danish Realm(Rigsfælledsabet) -, Finland and its autonomous regions, the Åland Islands, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. "

• Nordic countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• This hasn't been a good day for you, huh.

They were not mentioned in the cut-and-paste dump you posted.

The proof that I posted included this, you liar:

1. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
2. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
3. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
4. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
5. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian


And, as I just proved, Norway is a Nordic country.





So....not only did I prove you to be ignorant....but a liar as well.

With those characteristics....you must be a Liberal, huh?

It didn't mention it specifically. Just Sweden and Denmark.

There it is folks. Always an ignorant American socialist (truly the dumbest people on earth) who inevtiably brings up the Scandinavian countries.

But but but Norway and Denmark and Sweden!!!!!!!
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In response to Americans frequently referring to his country as socialist, theprime minister of Denmark recently remarked in a lecture at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government,

I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.

The Scandinavians embrace a brand of free-market capitalism that exists in conjunction with a large welfare state, known as the “Nordic Model,” which includes many policies that democratic socialists would likely abhor.

For example, democratic socialists are generally opponents of global capitalism and free trade, but the Scandinavian countries have fully embraced these things. The Economist magazine describes the Scandinavian countries as “stout free-traders who resist the temptation to intervene even to protect iconic companies.” Perhaps this is why Denmark, Norway, and Sweden rank among the most globalized countries in the entire world. These countries all also rank in the top 10 easiest countries to do business in.

How do supporters of Bernie Sanders feel about the minimum wage? You will find no such government-imposed floors on labor in Sweden, Norway, or Denmark. Instead, minimum wages are decided by collective-bargaining agreements between unions and employers; they typically vary on an occupational or industrial basis. Union-imposed wages lock out the least skilled and do their own damage to an economy, but such a decentralized system is still arguably a much better way of doing things than having the central government set a one-size fits all wage policy that covers every occupation nationwide.

In a move that would be considered radically pro-capitalist by young Americans who #FeelTheBern, Sweden adopted a universal school choice system in the 1990s that is nearly identical to the system proposed by libertarian economist Milton Friedman his 1955 essay, “The Role of Government in Education.”
The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism | Corey Iacono

^^^the myth of Scandanavian socialist systems that losers like this always bring up whenever anyone like me points out the horrors and truth about socialist conditions for the poor.

Norway seems to have light syndicalism. The others I mentioned have a minimum wage.

Didn't I just instruct you on manners?

A simple thank you is required.....not an attempt to change the subject.

This is not a sign of proper upbringing on your part.

For shame!

 

[Agit8r]

I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts.

Pick up a newspaper once in a while, you dunce.

Scandinavia has move to more conservative practices....

"The Economist: The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge
Feb 2nd 2013|From the print edition

1. THIRTY YEARS AGO Margaret Thatcher turned Britain into the world’s leading centre of “thinking the unthinkable”. Today that distinction has passed to Sweden….Sweden has reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP from 67% in 1993 to 49% today…. It has also cut the top marginal tax rate by 27 percentage points since 1983, to 57%, and scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance. This year it is cutting the corporate-tax rate from 26.3% to 22%.
2. Sweden has also donned the golden straitjacket of fiscal orthodoxy with its pledge to produce a fiscal surplus over the economic cycle. Its public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010, and its budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3% over the same period.
3. Most daringly, it has introduced a universal system of school vouchers and invited private schools to compete with public ones. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly….Sweden is pioneering “a new conservative model”…
4. …Sweden’s quiet revolution has brought about a dramatic change in its economic performance. The two decades from 1970 were a period of decline: the country was demoted from being the world’s fourth-richest in 1970 to 14th-richest in 1993, …The two decades from 1990 were a period of recovery: GDP growth between 1993 and 2010 averaged 2.7% a year and productivity 2.1% a year, compared with 1.9% and 1% respectively for the main 15 EU countries.
5. For most of the 20th century Sweden prided itself on offering what Marquis Childs called, in his 1936 book of that title, a “Middle Way” between capitalism and socialism…As the decades rolled by, the middle way veered left. The government kept growing: public spending as a share of GDP nearly doubled from 1960 to 1980 and peaked at 67% in 1993.
   1. Taxes kept rising. The Social Democrats (who ruled Sweden for 44 uninterrupted years from 1932 to 1976 and for 21 out of the 24 years from 1982 to 2006) kept squeezing business. “The era of neo-capitalism is drawing to an end,” said Olof Palme, the party’s leader, in 1974. “It is some kind of socialism that is the key to the future.”
6. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
7. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
8. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
9. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
10. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian



a. reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP
b. cut the top marginal tax rate
c. scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance.
d. cutting the corporate-tax rate
e. pledge to produce a fiscal surplus
f. public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010
g. budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3%
h. a universal system of school vouchers
i. invited private schools to compete with public ones.
j. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly


the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state.

Why isn't Iceland in that article. Nordic countries include EVERY Nordic country, right?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Poor American socialists (the dumbest people on the planet and I am being polite about it) just hate the facts in regards to the utter disaster socialism is.

The liars think living in Norway or Sweden or Canada is better than here.

Damn, there must be droves of Americans moving to those countries.

Oh, there isn't? Huh.

You see? They are all liars.

A simple misunderstanding on the part of the folks you have referenced: It is not droves of Americans moving to those countries....it is droves of Muslims, who have the view that infidel females are theirs to plunder.

This may be worse than being liars.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Anyone that doesn't understand that Venezuela is a communist dictatorship that doesn't understand economics...Well, isn't worth debating.

You're dumber then shit.

Many western Europe and eastern Asian societies uses social democracy! As I stated above our out of country private sector is what is disfunctioning in health care and putting students into debt.

You are a liar. An ignorant liar.

I demanded that he change his avi to "MoronMatthew," and he continues to drag his feet.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts.

Pick up a newspaper once in a while, you dunce.

Scandinavia has move to more conservative practices....

"The Economist: The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge
Feb 2nd 2013|From the print edition

1. THIRTY YEARS AGO Margaret Thatcher turned Britain into the world’s leading centre of “thinking the unthinkable”. Today that distinction has passed to Sweden….Sweden has reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP from 67% in 1993 to 49% today…. It has also cut the top marginal tax rate by 27 percentage points since 1983, to 57%, and scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance. This year it is cutting the corporate-tax rate from 26.3% to 22%.
2. Sweden has also donned the golden straitjacket of fiscal orthodoxy with its pledge to produce a fiscal surplus over the economic cycle. Its public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010, and its budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3% over the same period.
3. Most daringly, it has introduced a universal system of school vouchers and invited private schools to compete with public ones. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly….Sweden is pioneering “a new conservative model”…
4. …Sweden’s quiet revolution has brought about a dramatic change in its economic performance. The two decades from 1970 were a period of decline: the country was demoted from being the world’s fourth-richest in 1970 to 14th-richest in 1993, …The two decades from 1990 were a period of recovery: GDP growth between 1993 and 2010 averaged 2.7% a year and productivity 2.1% a year, compared with 1.9% and 1% respectively for the main 15 EU countries.
5. For most of the 20th century Sweden prided itself on offering what Marquis Childs called, in his 1936 book of that title, a “Middle Way” between capitalism and socialism…As the decades rolled by, the middle way veered left. The government kept growing: public spending as a share of GDP nearly doubled from 1960 to 1980 and peaked at 67% in 1993.
   1. Taxes kept rising. The Social Democrats (who ruled Sweden for 44 uninterrupted years from 1932 to 1976 and for 21 out of the 24 years from 1982 to 2006) kept squeezing business. “The era of neo-capitalism is drawing to an end,” said Olof Palme, the party’s leader, in 1974. “It is some kind of socialism that is the key to the future.”
6. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
7. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
8. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
9. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
10. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian



a. reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP
b. cut the top marginal tax rate
c. scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance.
d. cutting the corporate-tax rate
e. pledge to produce a fiscal surplus
f. public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010
g. budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3%
h. a universal system of school vouchers
i. invited private schools to compete with public ones.
j. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly


the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state.

Why isn't Iceland in that article. Nordic countries include EVERY Nordic country, right?

Still waiting for you to behave correctly.

 

[Agit8r]

I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts.

Pick up a newspaper once in a while, you dunce.

Scandinavia has move to more conservative practices....

"The Economist: The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge
Feb 2nd 2013|From the print edition

1. THIRTY YEARS AGO Margaret Thatcher turned Britain into the world’s leading centre of “thinking the unthinkable”. Today that distinction has passed to Sweden….Sweden has reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP from 67% in 1993 to 49% today…. It has also cut the top marginal tax rate by 27 percentage points since 1983, to 57%, and scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance. This year it is cutting the corporate-tax rate from 26.3% to 22%.
2. Sweden has also donned the golden straitjacket of fiscal orthodoxy with its pledge to produce a fiscal surplus over the economic cycle. Its public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010, and its budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3% over the same period.
3. Most daringly, it has introduced a universal system of school vouchers and invited private schools to compete with public ones. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly….Sweden is pioneering “a new conservative model”…
4. …Sweden’s quiet revolution has brought about a dramatic change in its economic performance. The two decades from 1970 were a period of decline: the country was demoted from being the world’s fourth-richest in 1970 to 14th-richest in 1993, …The two decades from 1990 were a period of recovery: GDP growth between 1993 and 2010 averaged 2.7% a year and productivity 2.1% a year, compared with 1.9% and 1% respectively for the main 15 EU countries.
5. For most of the 20th century Sweden prided itself on offering what Marquis Childs called, in his 1936 book of that title, a “Middle Way” between capitalism and socialism…As the decades rolled by, the middle way veered left. The government kept growing: public spending as a share of GDP nearly doubled from 1960 to 1980 and peaked at 67% in 1993.
   1. Taxes kept rising. The Social Democrats (who ruled Sweden for 44 uninterrupted years from 1932 to 1976 and for 21 out of the 24 years from 1982 to 2006) kept squeezing business. “The era of neo-capitalism is drawing to an end,” said Olof Palme, the party’s leader, in 1974. “It is some kind of socialism that is the key to the future.”
6. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
7. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
8. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
9. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
10. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian



a. reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP
b. cut the top marginal tax rate
c. scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance.
d. cutting the corporate-tax rate
e. pledge to produce a fiscal surplus
f. public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010
g. budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3%
h. a universal system of school vouchers
i. invited private schools to compete with public ones.
j. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly


the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state.

Why isn't Iceland in that article. Nordic countries include EVERY Nordic country, right?

Still waiting for you to behave correctly.

Did you ever have a point in replying to my post? Democratic mixed economy isn't set in stone. Sometimes it corrects more to the market side, and sometimes more toward the socialist side. That's how democracy works.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts.

Pick up a newspaper once in a while, you dunce.

Scandinavia has move to more conservative practices....

"The Economist: The Nordic countries are reinventing their model of capitalism, says Adrian Wooldridge
Feb 2nd 2013|From the print edition

1. THIRTY YEARS AGO Margaret Thatcher turned Britain into the world’s leading centre of “thinking the unthinkable”. Today that distinction has passed to Sweden….Sweden has reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP from 67% in 1993 to 49% today…. It has also cut the top marginal tax rate by 27 percentage points since 1983, to 57%, and scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance. This year it is cutting the corporate-tax rate from 26.3% to 22%.
2. Sweden has also donned the golden straitjacket of fiscal orthodoxy with its pledge to produce a fiscal surplus over the economic cycle. Its public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010, and its budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3% over the same period.
3. Most daringly, it has introduced a universal system of school vouchers and invited private schools to compete with public ones. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly….Sweden is pioneering “a new conservative model”…
4. …Sweden’s quiet revolution has brought about a dramatic change in its economic performance. The two decades from 1970 were a period of decline: the country was demoted from being the world’s fourth-richest in 1970 to 14th-richest in 1993, …The two decades from 1990 were a period of recovery: GDP growth between 1993 and 2010 averaged 2.7% a year and productivity 2.1% a year, compared with 1.9% and 1% respectively for the main 15 EU countries.
5. For most of the 20th century Sweden prided itself on offering what Marquis Childs called, in his 1936 book of that title, a “Middle Way” between capitalism and socialism…As the decades rolled by, the middle way veered left. The government kept growing: public spending as a share of GDP nearly doubled from 1960 to 1980 and peaked at 67% in 1993.
   1. Taxes kept rising. The Social Democrats (who ruled Sweden for 44 uninterrupted years from 1932 to 1976 and for 21 out of the 24 years from 1982 to 2006) kept squeezing business. “The era of neo-capitalism is drawing to an end,” said Olof Palme, the party’s leader, in 1974. “It is some kind of socialism that is the key to the future.”
6. The other Nordic countries have been moving in the same direction,… Denmark has one of the most liberal labour markets in Europe. It also allows parents to send children to private schools at public expense and make up the difference in cost with their own money. Finland is harnessing the skills of venture capitalists and angel investors to promote innovation and entrepreneurship.
7. But the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state. It begins with fiscal responsibility rather than pump-priming: all four Nordic countries have AAA ratings and debt loads significantly below the euro-zone average. It begins with choice and competition rather than paternalism and planning.
   1. The leftward lurch has been reversed: rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
8. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”
9. ….they have reached the future first. They are grappling with problems that other countries too will have to deal with in due course, such as what to do when you reach the limits of big government and how to organise society when almost all women work.
10. … the new Nordic model is proving strikingly successful. The Nordics dominate indices of competitiveness as well as of well-being. Their high scores in both types of league table mark a big change since the 1980s when welfare took precedence over competitiveness.”

http://www.economist.com/news/speci...einventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian



a. reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP
b. cut the top marginal tax rate
c. scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance.
d. cutting the corporate-tax rate
e. pledge to produce a fiscal surplus
f. public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010
g. budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3%
h. a universal system of school vouchers
i. invited private schools to compete with public ones.
j. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly


the new Nordic model begins with the individual rather than the state.

Why isn't Iceland in that article. Nordic countries include EVERY Nordic country, right?

Still waiting for you to behave correctly.

Did you ever have a point in replying to my post? Democratic mixed economy isn't set in stone. Sometimes it corrects more to the market side, and sometimes more toward the socialist side. That's how democracy works.

Let's review....

You were ignorant of Norway being part of the Nordic nations.
You lied when you claimed that the Economist article didn't refer to Norway
You knew this.....as shown by your attempt to change the subject.

I've simply identified your personal character flaws, as an example of what is to be expected from those of your political persuasion....Liberalism.

Did I cover everything?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Again, the most ridiculous people on the planet are Americans who desire socialism.



I know, these videos or documentaries and facts about what socialism really does will not make any difference or will not cause the slightest dent on the minds of the socialists that post here.

Just watch the whole video.

Why is that inevitable for the US?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts.

How long do you think they could prop up their generous welfare states if we stopped carrying the financial burden for the bulk of their defense? The Nordic countries are already looking into welfare reform because they're running out of money to pay for it.

Who is trying to attack Norway and Canada?

Lame excuse though. Try again perhaps?

It's a lame excuse to an ignorant parasite like yourself. The Europeans spend very little on defense because we have American bases set up all over Europe and have since WWII. Canada is right next door so don't have to worry about dick.

U.S. Taxpayer Subsidies for European Welfare States Continue

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I'm sure that's what people said that Norway, France, Canada and the UK would look like too. Good thing they didn't listen to the wingnuts.

How long do you think they could prop up their generous welfare states if we stopped carrying the financial burden for the bulk of their defense? The Nordic countries are already looking into welfare reform because they're running out of money to pay for it.

France and UK are both among the top ten military spenders.

That's not exactly saying much when we're spending more than the next ten countries combined. The British spend far less than they used to and France isn't meeting their NATO commitment.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Anyone that doesn't understand that Venezuela is a communist dictatorship that doesn't understand economics...Well, isn't worth debating.

Anyone that doesn't understand that Venezuela is NOT a Communist dictatorship isn't worth acknowledging, but maybe you can fill us in on their science, education, and infrastructure.

You're dumber then shit.

Many western Europe and eastern Asian societies uses social democracy! As I stated above our out of control private sector that is disfunctioning in health care and putting students into debt.

What private sector? Care to explain where the private is in our health care system? Care to explain where the private sector is at in our university systems?

I won't even get into the irony of you telling other people they are dumber than shit, Rain Main.