Agnapostate
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Ellis Island wasn't just a border. IT was a checkpoint where they did check you. There was a process. They recorded your arrival and made sure that you brought no diseases and the like. There is no such place on the southern boarder where Mexicans are going to pass any standards.
Then, it doesn't matter because what is good for the United States at one era is not necessarily always good. There was even a point at which we did say enough is enough and closed off Ellis Island to the traffic that it had once accepted.
Ellis Island functioned as a border checkpoint which existed because a border did. Less than 1% of immigrants who came to Ellis Island were turned away because of disease, but you are correct that "what is good for the United States at one era is not necessarily always good."
For instance, checking immigrants for disease is probably not necessary in the way it once was. There are vastly overhyped reports and outright lies made about immigrants' level of disease, such as when Lou Dobbs claimed that there were 7,000 cases of leprosy between 2002 and 2005, compared to 900 cases for forty years before that. His report alleged that the "epidemic" was caused by increased rates of immigration, and he claimed that "the invasion of illegal aliens is threatening the health of many Americans." The only problem with this little "report" is that there have been 7,000 cases of leprosy over the past thirty years since 2005, not the past three. Maybe Lou thought the "zero" didn't count? Unfortunately, that's only true when it comes to him...and the unfortunate fact is that other reports on an alleged epidemic of disease supposedly caused by illegal immigrants are largely of similar quality.
Important to note is that disease probably has far more to do with poor socioeconomic status than with immigration status, and criminalization of immigration leads to far more negative socioeconomic circumstances than amnesty and legalization would.
Unlike the illegal aliens, my forefathers immigrated in every sense of the word. The acclimated. They did more than just learn English.Hispanic illegal aliens, they don't have to a bloody thing. Because, people like you , agnanost, like to ..hmm, what's the word? Enable them in some kind of weird co-dependant crap I can't even begin to understand? So, tell me brother, why can't they immigrate legally? I gotta hear this. Why not?
According to this 1892 New York Times article on the disease threat posed by illegal immigration, there is a significant cholera threat posed by immigrants, specifically a group of German immigrants who brought the disease from Hamburg on a vessel called the Monrovia.
There is undoubtedly a Widespread feeling that immigration from countries where cholera is now raging ought to cease. Government officials who declare that the present quarantine regulations should result in Keeping the scourge out of the country acknowledge in the same breath that absolute prohibition would be the best possible means of Stopping the westward march of the disease...Every big American city has its colony of Russian Jews or Poles or Hungarians, and every good citizen knows that they make most undesirable residents. With the cholera killing people by the wholesale in the ports whence these creatures assemble to take passage to the United States, there is good ground for the present demand of absolute prohibition. (Emphasis mine.)
These people [immigrants] are offensive at best; under the present circumstances, they are a positive menace to the health of the country. Cholera, it must be remembered, originates in the homes of this human riff-raff.
Should we deport you, descended from "human riff-raff" as you are?