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Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.Perfect is the enemy of goodThere are extremists on both sides, I'm not one of them. If you can pass a background check that verifies you don't have a criminal mental health history, and you've been through some training in the safe use of your weapons, I can't imagine any law I'd support that would take away your guns.
I know of a cop who was very well trained in gun safety. He was a decorated cop (received recognition and awards.) He no doubt passed at least one "background" check and who knows what other kinds of psychological exams. . .
We was married to an extremely good looking, smart, LOVED police officer, friend of my whole family.
They divorced.
She was scared of him.
She got a restraining order.
He broke into her house, shot her in the head and then offed himself.
I have no faith or security in your much blathered about "background" checks.
You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.Perfect is the enemy of goodThere are extremists on both sides, I'm not one of them. If you can pass a background check that verifies you don't have a criminal mental health history, and you've been through some training in the safe use of your weapons, I can't imagine any law I'd support that would take away your guns.
I know of a cop who was very well trained in gun safety. He was a decorated cop (received recognition and awards.) He no doubt passed at least one "background" check and who knows what other kinds of psychological exams. . .
We was married to an extremely good looking, smart, LOVED police officer, friend of my whole family.
They divorced.
She was scared of him.
She got a restraining order.
He broke into her house, shot her in the head and then offed himself.
I have no faith or security in your much blathered about "background" checks.
You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Right, that's because we're such a monolithic group. We even have a newsletter and a secret handshake.Don't forget the asshats in norfolk and richmond. Gun rights intransigence made them angry and that made VA blue. What doesn't bend will break.No....left wing asshats working in D.C and living in Virginia made it blue....
Sorry.....you are wrong......the threat...give up some of your Rights or we will take all of them is exactly what you morons do......then, you come back...give up more of your Rights or lose all of them.....rinse and repeat........
Right, that's because we're such a monolithic group. We even have a newsletter and a secret handshake.Don't forget the asshats in norfolk and richmond. Gun rights intransigence made them angry and that made VA blue. What doesn't bend will break.No....left wing asshats working in D.C and living in Virginia made it blue....
Sorry.....you are wrong......the threat...give up some of your Rights or we will take all of them is exactly what you morons do......then, you come back...give up more of your Rights or lose all of them.....rinse and repeat........
You might consider building a wall since there are more Blues than Reds. Prediction: as internet access continues to improve and people can work from home, more and more Blue people will be able to repopulate the Red states.Don't forget the asshats in norfolk and richmond. Gun rights intransigence made them angry and that made VA blue. What doesn't bend will break.No....left wing asshats working in D.C and living in Virginia made it blue....
No, moron.....left wing asshats moving in from D.C. made it blue.......the infection spreads with every left wing moron who moves into a Red state.
I guess I don't have a clue. Which anti-gun groups want to ban all guns from private citizens?The leadership of the democrat party...that's one group......the various anti-gun groups, they all want to ban all guns from private citizens......to say otherwise is to lie or not have a clue....
dead is forever, all else is temporaryNot a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.Perfect is the enemy of goodThere are extremists on both sides, I'm not one of them. If you can pass a background check that verifies you don't have a criminal mental health history, and you've been through some training in the safe use of your weapons, I can't imagine any law I'd support that would take away your guns.
I know of a cop who was very well trained in gun safety. He was a decorated cop (received recognition and awards.) He no doubt passed at least one "background" check and who knows what other kinds of psychological exams. . .
We was married to an extremely good looking, smart, LOVED police officer, friend of my whole family.
They divorced.
She was scared of him.
She got a restraining order.
He broke into her house, shot her in the head and then offed himself.
I have no faith or security in your much blathered about "background" checks.
You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Will a background check stop all illegal use of electronic devices....for child porn, identity theft, or terrorism......no...but it will stop some, so before anyone can buy an Ipad, laptop or cell phone, everyone must go through a complete background check......
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.Perfect is the enemy of goodThere are extremists on both sides, I'm not one of them. If you can pass a background check that verifies you don't have a criminal mental health history, and you've been through some training in the safe use of your weapons, I can't imagine any law I'd support that would take away your guns.
I know of a cop who was very well trained in gun safety. He was a decorated cop (received recognition and awards.) He no doubt passed at least one "background" check and who knows what other kinds of psychological exams. . .
We was married to an extremely good looking, smart, LOVED police officer, friend of my whole family.
They divorced.
She was scared of him.
She got a restraining order.
He broke into her house, shot her in the head and then offed himself.
I have no faith or security in your much blathered about "background" checks.
You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Nope......background checks don't stop criminals, criminals can't go to gun safety because they can't own guns.....both target normal gun owners with the intent of increasing the cost, red tape and legal jeopardy of the normal gun owner.....
Right, that's because we're such a monolithic group. We even have a newsletter and a secret handshake.Don't forget the asshats in norfolk and richmond. Gun rights intransigence made them angry and that made VA blue. What doesn't bend will break.No....left wing asshats working in D.C and living in Virginia made it blue....
Sorry.....you are wrong......the threat...give up some of your Rights or we will take all of them is exactly what you morons do......then, you come back...give up more of your Rights or lose all of them.....rinse and repeat........
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.Perfect is the enemy of goodI know of a cop who was very well trained in gun safety. He was a decorated cop (received recognition and awards.) He no doubt passed at least one "background" check and who knows what other kinds of psychological exams. . .
We was married to an extremely good looking, smart, LOVED police officer, friend of my whole family.
They divorced.
She was scared of him.
She got a restraining order.
He broke into her house, shot her in the head and then offed himself.
I have no faith or security in your much blathered about "background" checks.
You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Nope......background checks don't stop criminals, criminals can't go to gun safety because they can't own guns.....both target normal gun owners with the intent of increasing the cost, red tape and legal jeopardy of the normal gun owner.....
Perfect is the enemy of goodThe Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.
You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Nope......background checks don't stop criminals, criminals can't go to gun safety because they can't own guns.....both target normal gun owners with the intent of increasing the cost, red tape and legal jeopardy of the normal gun owner.....
You mean from purchasing them legally.
How precisely has it deterred illegal purchases?
Perfect is the enemy of goodThe Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Nope......background checks don't stop criminals, criminals can't go to gun safety because they can't own guns.....both target normal gun owners with the intent of increasing the cost, red tape and legal jeopardy of the normal gun owner.....
You mean from purchasing them legally.
How precisely has it deterred illegal purchases?
It was a very succinct way of saying I don't know and I don't care. It has played it's role of preventing criminals from purchasing them legally and that is enough. It hasn't solved global warming either. So?Perfect is the enemy of goodThe Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.
Nope......background checks don't stop criminals, criminals can't go to gun safety because they can't own guns.....both target normal gun owners with the intent of increasing the cost, red tape and legal jeopardy of the normal gun owner.....
You mean from purchasing them legally.
How precisely has it deterred illegal purchases?
Non-answers are the enemy of debate.
It was a very succinct way of saying I don't know and I don't care. It has played it's role of preventing criminals from purchasing them legally and that is enough. It hasn't solved global warming either. So?Perfect is the enemy of goodThe Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.Nope......background checks don't stop criminals, criminals can't go to gun safety because they can't own guns.....both target normal gun owners with the intent of increasing the cost, red tape and legal jeopardy of the normal gun owner.....
You mean from purchasing them legally.
How precisely has it deterred illegal purchases?
Non-answers are the enemy of debate.
Why are those people allowed to walk the streets? They don't need a gun to be deadly.Maybe so but I bet the potential is greater for some, schizophrenics for instance, than for others.As noted below, everyone has the potential to be a danger to others.
That is a very low bar
Yes, but see Reagan.In times past Republicans decided that being Black was too dangerous to be allowed to own firearms.
Nowadays the Democrats have decided that Being White and Conservative is too dangerous to be allowed to own firearms.
I don't want other people deciding if I am worthy of being allowed to enjoy individual Constitutional rights.
Just to pick a nit, it was specifically the Ku Klux Klan that pushed for, and got, the first gun control laws, and these laws were specifically targeted at black people. And the Ku Klux Klan was a branch of the Democratic party, not the Republicans. It's always been Democrats targeting the right to keep and bear arms, and specifically trying to deny this right to those that they see as their political enemies.
You don't understand how tort litigation works. Anyone can file a suit against anyone else. States run by commies can impose unprecedented strict liability on gun manufacturers to make them unpaid insurers for murder victims, overturning centuries of tort jurisprudence and placing undue restraint on the right to own arms without that protection.So there was no reason to pass the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act?It's not negligent on the part of the manufacturer if a person uses their products to commit crimes.Incorrect. Only the gun industry is protected from lawsuits even if they are guilty of negligence.Of course there areThe unintended consequences would be limited since no other industry is protected in this way.
You can't sue Chevy or the jack daniels Co because some guy drank a lot of whiskey and mowed down your kid with his car
You can't sue the buck knife Co if someone stabs you with one of their knives
You can't sue Louisville slugger Co if someone bashes your head in with a bat
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They could sell 1,000,000 guns to one person willing to pay and it STILL would not make a gun manufacturer liable for the willful misuse of a firearm, just like a car manufacturer should not be liable for the actions of one who intentionally runs over a pedestrian on the sidewalk with malice aforethought.True enough. However if they sell 1,000 guns a month to a private citizen, that should raise alarms. Just ask the Sackler family.And who advocates murder in gun advertisements?
No one that's who
Preemption is the enemy of libertyPerfect is the enemy of goodThe Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV) states that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System has prevented over two million felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing firearms. According to the CSGV, the law also has a prohibitive effect, that deters illegal purchases.Not a bit of it. Will a background check or safety training prevent all tragedies? Nope. Will it prevent some tragedies? Of course. Some is better than none.You are dodging the point.
There is absolutely nothing in a background check or safety training that will keep a criminal mind in check.
Nope......background checks don't stop criminals, criminals can't go to gun safety because they can't own guns.....both target normal gun owners with the intent of increasing the cost, red tape and legal jeopardy of the normal gun owner.....
You mean from purchasing them legally.
How precisely has it deterred illegal purchases?
