Voting against one's own economic interests...Politics gone awry.

[Ray From Cleveland]

There is nothing wrong with deregulation

Like this one....???............Exactly WHO benefits from this deregulation?

Why Trump just killed a rule restricting coal companies from dumping ...

Did President Trump Make It Legal to Dump Coal Mining Waste Into ...

If the regulation was needed so badly, why did DumBama wait 7 years and 11 months to create it?

You need to learn how the game of politics is played.

 

[nat4900]

If the regulation was needed so badly, why did DumBama wait 7 years and 11 months to create it?

You need to learn how the game of politics is played.

NO, nitwit......Obama just updated a 33 year old rule since the orange clown campaigned to overturn those 33 years of sound environmental policies just to demagogue, and get a few bucks from coal mine owners.

 

[westwall]

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It is the sign of a successful brainwashing program when it manages to convince people to vote against their own best interests.

America has always been Number One in the world in brainwashing and conditioning the Sheeple.

It's the one thing we will always be able to export to the rest of the world.
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You mean like this obummer guy saying they had to rely on YOUR stupidity to shove obummer care down your throats?

 

[Papageorgio]

Bill Clinton negotiated the international treaty. Bill Clinton pushed it through congress. 1993 when Democrats controlled both the legislative and executive branches.

North American Free Trade Agreement Signing, Oct 7 1992 | C-SPAN ...

George H.W. Bush negotiated NAFTA - MSN.com

/---/ So? Clintoon signed it in to law. Are you stuck on stupid?

Had he vetoed it, it would have been dead, at the time it didn't have the votes to override the veto, so it is on Clinton. I like how the left tries to shrug off responsibility.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If the regulation was needed so badly, why did DumBama wait 7 years and 11 months to create it?

You need to learn how the game of politics is played.

NO, nitwit......Obama just updated a 33 year old rule since the orange clown campaigned to overturn those 33 years of sound environmental policies just to demagogue, and get a few bucks from coal mine owners.

No nitwit, Democrat presidents do this all the time to entertain you sheep. Bill Clinton passed an egregious regulation about arsenic levels in water that was nearly impossible to accomplish before he left the White House knowing that Bush would have to rescind it. With the help of the left-wing media, they promoted that Bush wanted to pollute our water even though Bush just decreased the level back to where it was during Clinton's two terms.

You people are such puppets and don't even understand it yet.

 

[PredFan]

Beyond the incessant "we won with Trump" mantra often voiced by right wingers, there should be the sanity of reality which occurs a bit later, sobering up the silly chanting.


Truth be told, red states that voted overwhelmingly for Trump just haven’t been pulling their weight.

Red states are nearly twice as dependent on the federal government as blue states. Of the twelve states that received the least federal aid in return for each tax dollar they contribute to the U.S. Treasury,TEN of them voted for Hillary Clinton—and the other two were Michigan and Wisconsin, barely won by Trump in a temporary loss of sanity.

By the same count, 20 of the 26 states most dependent on federal aid went to Trump.
For example, Mississippi [in]famous for being 49th or 50th in just about everything that matters. When it comes to sucking at the federal teat, the Magnolia State is the undisputed champ. More than 40 percent of Mississippi’s state revenue comes from federal funding; one-third of its GDP comes from federal spending; for every dollar it pays out in federal taxes, Good ol' Mississippi takes in $4.70 in federal aid, and one in five residents of that state is on food stamps.

So, what do these red states do when it comes to electing a president?.....They succumb to demagoguery and lies....and vote in the very worst person whose economic (and health) plans are aimed at royally screwing them......Wolf-like Populism in orange sheep clothing.

Bottom line: The generosity of blue states' contribution to the federal coffers, is slapped down by the stupidity of those who were the beneficiary of that generosity.

Parts of this thread were from Why Blue States Should Exit Red America

It's because there are too many left wing parasites in those states. Oh, are you stupid enough to think that red states have no democrats in them? Yeah probably.

 

[OnePercenter]

Ask yourself what issues they are voting for. What do the voters think are their interests? Or you could get out of the way and let the Republicans actually cut those subsidies. But instead you hope to win elections by along the voters stupid.

Wages are the number one problem for the middle class. Republicans and corporate America aren't interested in fixing that problem.

/----/ there are top paying jobs for qualified people. If you're to lazy to get the training that's not the GOPs or Corporate America's fault. It's your fault.

By not keeping wages commensurate with cost of living? Keep it up fool....

/----/ This is a free market. No one has an obligation to provide you with anything. Go earn it.

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

 

[OnePercenter]

Ask yourself what issues they are voting for. What do the voters think are their interests? Or you could get out of the way and let the Republicans actually cut those subsidies. But instead you hope to win elections by along the voters stupid.

Wages are the number one problem for the middle class. Republicans and corporate America aren't interested in fixing that problem.

It's not up to government to fix that problem, it's up to the individual.

By individual you mean the employee or the employer?

 

[OnePercenter]

Deregulation allowing small businesses to operate with less costs, less regulation to help the working class to stay working.

The people who voted for Trump looked out for their interests, wanting to make sure they had jobs and less regulation so the could do their jobs. The working class voiced out that they were not being heard. They don't care about gay marriage, gender equality, it doesn't matter, they are concerned about jobs, working and making ends meet.

The deregulation that Trump has pushed is in consumer protection and environmental. How can that deregulation benefit the 'people' when the store legally screws you? Go to a different store who is also going to screw you? How about a chemical plant who can legally dump methyl-ethyl nasty shit up stream from where you drink or fish? How is that a benefit for the 'people?'

The only benefit that Trump is giving are to business. How many well paying jobs has Trump created? None?

We had a record number of the usual June jobs jump, but wages remained stagnant. How is this good for the 'people?'

 

[OnePercenter]

Deregulation allowing small businesses to operate with less costs, less regulation to help the working class to stay working.

The people who voted for Trump looked out for their interests, wanting to make sure they had jobs and less regulation so the could do their jobs. The working class voiced out that they were not being heard. They don't care about gay marriage, gender equality, it doesn't matter, they are concerned about jobs, working and making ends meet.

There is nothing wrong with deregulation if we are careful to watch what is deregulated is in our best interest, not the oligarchy.

Which regulations should be deregulated for the 'peoples' (working class) best interest?

 

[whitehall]

Doesn't it make sense for those 20 red states to try to do something different and drain the swamp and throw out the rascals and get rid of the democrats who were responsible for their dependence on the federal government and try something different? Of course the rich elites in L.A. and New York City and San Francisco would want the status quo where the rich get richer so they smash windows and torch cars and threaten the president and shoot baseball teams because they were angry that the rest of the Country didn't elect another democrat.

 

[OnePercenter]

Doesn't it make sense for those 20 red states to try to do something different and drain the swamp and throw out the rascals and get rid of the democrats who were responsible for their dependence on the federal government and try something different? Of course the rich elites in L.A. and New York City and San Francisco would want the status quo where the rich get richer so they smash windows and torch cars and threaten the president and shoot baseball teams because they were angry that the rest of the Country didn't elect another democrat.

'Drain the swamp' to what end?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Ask yourself what issues they are voting for. What do the voters think are their interests? Or you could get out of the way and let the Republicans actually cut those subsidies. But instead you hope to win elections by along the voters stupid.

Wages are the number one problem for the middle class. Republicans and corporate America aren't interested in fixing that problem.

/----/ there are top paying jobs for qualified people. If you're to lazy to get the training that's not the GOPs or Corporate America's fault. It's your fault.

By not keeping wages commensurate with cost of living? Keep it up fool....

/----/ This is a free market. No one has an obligation to provide you with anything. Go earn it.

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

/----/ Compared to the Euro Trash Socialist Slave states - we are a free market.

 

[OnePercenter]

Wages are the number one problem for the middle class. Republicans and corporate America aren't interested in fixing that problem.

/----/ there are top paying jobs for qualified people. If you're to lazy to get the training that's not the GOPs or Corporate America's fault. It's your fault.

By not keeping wages commensurate with cost of living? Keep it up fool....

/----/ This is a free market. No one has an obligation to provide you with anything. Go earn it.

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

/----/ Compared to the Euro Trash Socialist Slave states - we are a free market.

The 'Euro Trash Socialist Slave states' have an economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses. How so?

 

[Avatar4321]

Handing control over our Lives to politicians and bureaucrats in Washington isn't in our best interest

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Deregulation allowing small businesses to operate with less costs, less regulation to help the working class to stay working.

The people who voted for Trump looked out for their interests, wanting to make sure they had jobs and less regulation so the could do their jobs. The working class voiced out that they were not being heard. They don't care about gay marriage, gender equality, it doesn't matter, they are concerned about jobs, working and making ends meet.

The deregulation that Trump has pushed is in consumer protection and environmental. How can that deregulation benefit the 'people' when the store legally screws you? Go to a different store who is also going to screw you? How about a chemical plant who can legally dump methyl-ethyl nasty shit up stream from where you drink or fish? How is that a benefit for the 'people?'

The only benefit that Trump is giving are to business. How many well paying jobs has Trump created? None?

We had a record number of the usual June jobs jump, but wages remained stagnant. How is this good for the 'people?'

Wages remained stagnant during most of DumBama's two terms and we heard nothing from you leftists. Trump has been President for six months and he had to battle multiple activist judges rulings, plus this phony Russia thing.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ask yourself what issues they are voting for. What do the voters think are their interests? Or you could get out of the way and let the Republicans actually cut those subsidies. But instead you hope to win elections by along the voters stupid.

Wages are the number one problem for the middle class. Republicans and corporate America aren't interested in fixing that problem.

It's not up to government to fix that problem, it's up to the individual.

By individual you mean the employee or the employer?

Employee of course. If whatever you do is not paying enough money, you need to do something else that is.

Nobody pays a plumber $150.00 to fix their $75.00 toilet. Nobody pays a lawn care company $200.00 per cut of their lawn unless it's multiple acres.

In the US, it's not just business that looks to pay the least, it's American consumers as well. You do it, I do it, and most everybody does it.

An employees worth is what an employer can pay another person to do the same quality and same work, that's it.

If you sweep floors for a living, anybody can sweep floors, so the job pays very little. Same with making french fries, stocking shelves, washing windows, wiping cars off at a car wash.

If you learn a trade, you make more money because there are less people who can perform the jobs of those trades.

If you learn to be a plumber, an electrician, a carpenter, a bricklayer, that requires more education and experience, and the pay will reflect your efforts.

If you attend college in a field of demand, you can make nearly or six figures because even less Americans can do that job.

 

[Papageorgio]

Deregulation allowing small businesses to operate with less costs, less regulation to help the working class to stay working.

The people who voted for Trump looked out for their interests, wanting to make sure they had jobs and less regulation so the could do their jobs. The working class voiced out that they were not being heard. They don't care about gay marriage, gender equality, it doesn't matter, they are concerned about jobs, working and making ends meet.

The deregulation that Trump has pushed is in consumer protection and environmental. How can that deregulation benefit the 'people' when the store legally screws you? Go to a different store who is also going to screw you? How about a chemical plant who can legally dump methyl-ethyl nasty shit up stream from where you drink or fish? How is that a benefit for the 'people?'

The only benefit that Trump is giving are to business. How many well paying jobs has Trump created? None?

We had a record number of the usual June jobs jump, but wages remained stagnant. How is this good for the 'people?'

With Obama the wages were stagnant, why didn't you bitch and moan about that? You have no credibility, you are an insane hypocrite.

 

[OnePercenter]

Deregulation allowing small businesses to operate with less costs, less regulation to help the working class to stay working.

The people who voted for Trump looked out for their interests, wanting to make sure they had jobs and less regulation so the could do their jobs. The working class voiced out that they were not being heard. They don't care about gay marriage, gender equality, it doesn't matter, they are concerned about jobs, working and making ends meet.

The deregulation that Trump has pushed is in consumer protection and environmental. How can that deregulation benefit the 'people' when the store legally screws you? Go to a different store who is also going to screw you? How about a chemical plant who can legally dump methyl-ethyl nasty shit up stream from where you drink or fish? How is that a benefit for the 'people?'

The only benefit that Trump is giving are to business. How many well paying jobs has Trump created? None?

We had a record number of the usual June jobs jump, but wages remained stagnant. How is this good for the 'people?'

Wages remained stagnant during most of DumBama's two terms and we heard nothing from you leftists. Trump has been President for six months and he had to battle multiple activist judges rulings, plus this phony Russia thing.

Wages will remain stagnant until employers are forced to raise it. It's not going to happen until then.

Obama tried to raise minimum wage and was squashed by Republicans.

 

[OnePercenter]

Handing control over our Lives to politicians and bureaucrats in Washington isn't in our best interest

As long as they're not Republicans.......