voting for the Lesser Evil... LOL!

[Dot Com]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50072" data-quote="Billc" data-source="post: 10046571" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046571" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046571">Billc said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> yes not voting, rather than voting for the lesser of two evils, is sound strategy after all...by not voting for the lesser of two evils....you are helping the greater of two evils win....hmmmm...which means that when the greater of two evils gets into power...they will do the greater of evils, not the lesser of evils....<br /> <br /> Yeah...that sort of thinking got us exactly where we are....libertarians...the democrats,best friends.... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>wrong n00b!!!<br /> <br /> Once enough people say &quot;enough&quot; by showing how much of a sham throwing your vote away is, we&#039;ll have to have a constitutional convention (the states can call for it) to address the issues- too much influence by the uber wealthy, too much influence by questionable, well-financed lobbies, Capitol Hill being essentially &quot;owned&quot; by the &quot;too big to fail&quot; banks, etc...</div>

 

[Redfish]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <br /> Unless you happen to be GE which paid zero federal taxes last year, but its CEO is a buddy of obozo---nuff said.</div>

 

[occupied]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say?</div>

 

[Redfish]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046615" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046615" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046615">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 50072" data-quote="Billc" data-source="post: 10046571" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046571" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046571">Billc said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> yes not voting, rather than voting for the lesser of two evils, is sound strategy after all...by not voting for the lesser of two evils....you are helping the greater of two evils win....hmmmm...which means that when the greater of two evils gets into power...they will do the greater of evils, not the lesser of evils....<br /> <br /> Yeah...that sort of thinking got us exactly where we are....libertarians...the democrats,best friends.... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>wrong n00b!!!<br /> <br /> Once enough people say &quot;enough&quot; by showing how much of a sham throwing your vote away is, we&#039;ll have to have a constitutional convention (the states can call for it) to address the issues- too much influence by the uber wealthy, too much influence by questionable, well-financed lobbies, capitol hill being essentially &quot;owned&quot; by the too big to fail banks, etc... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <br /> you left out the unions, hollywood, and bribing assholes like Soros.</div>

 

[Redfish]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046625">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <br /> yes, sure, all american businesses want to pollute the planet, abuse their workers, and screw their customers.<br /> <br /> are you that much of a fricken loon? Businesses that do that do not survive. No one will buy their products or work for them, plus they end up in jail like Madoff.</div>

 

[Dot Com]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 42379" data-quote="Redfish" data-source="post: 10046632" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046632" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046632">Redfish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046615" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046615" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046615">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 50072" data-quote="Billc" data-source="post: 10046571" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046571" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046571">Billc said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> yes not voting, rather than voting for the lesser of two evils, is sound strategy after all...by not voting for the lesser of two evils....you are helping the greater of two evils win....hmmmm...which means that when the greater of two evils gets into power...they will do the greater of evils, not the lesser of evils....<br /> <br /> Yeah...that sort of thinking got us exactly where we are....libertarians...the democrats,best friends.... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>wrong n00b!!!<br /> <br /> Once enough people say &quot;enough&quot; by showing how much of a sham throwing your vote away is, we&#039;ll have to have a constitutional convention (the states can call for it) to address the issues- too much influence by the uber wealthy, too much influence by questionable, well-financed lobbies, capitol hill being essentially &quot;owned&quot; by the too big to fail banks, etc... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> you left out the unions, hollywood, and bribing assholes like Soros. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>and that changes the thrust of my argument exactly how asswipe? <img src="/styles/smilies/eusa_eh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eusa_eh:" title="eusa_eh :eusa_eh:" data-shortname=":eusa_eh:" /> I also DID mention the uber wealthy. READ!!! (preferably before you post <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> ) <img src="/styles/smilies/bang3.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bang3:" title="bang3 :bang3:" data-shortname=":bang3:" /></div>

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 42379" data-quote="Redfish" data-source="post: 10046650" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046650" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046650">Redfish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046625">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> yes, sure, all american businesses want to pollute the planet, abuse their workers, and screw their customers.<br /> <br /> are you that much of a fricken loon? Businesses that do that do not survive. No one will buy their products or work for them, plus they end up in jail like Madoff. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Take a look at the places where American corporations chased cheap labor to, China, India, Bangladesh, etc. It is readily apparent that they indeed want to do all that and more.</div>

 

[Contumacious]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046625">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, I totally forgot that without regulations Kraft would mix Velveeta with shit.<br /> <br /> <br /> Entrepreneurs need government bureaucrats to help them manage their business and buy the necessary infrastructure<br /> <br /> <br /> Talk about a crock, that one is a doozy.<br /> <br /> .</div>

 

[Moonglow]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Congress has been taxing for income since day one...</div>

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046682" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046682" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046682">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046625">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, I totally forgot that without regulations Kraft would mix Velveeta with shit.<br /> <br /> <br /> Entrepreneurs need government bureaucrats to help them manage their business and buy the necessary infrastructure<br /> <br /> <br /> Talk about a crock, that one is a doozy.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Your example is ludicrious but Exxon/Mobil would certainly pollute your land and drinking water in search of petroleum products. Libertarians would have small communities trying to sue Big Oil in court as the only recourse. Only the federal government has the resources for that shit and the power to make sure they pay up for their ruination of natural resources.<br /> <br /> As to the public infrastructure argument, you&#039;ve heard it all before and I have come to the conclusion that libertarians think roads and stuff like that are just naturally occurring, self repairing systems.</div>

 

[2aguy]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046615" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046615" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046615">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 50072" data-quote="Billc" data-source="post: 10046571" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046571" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046571">Billc said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> yes not voting, rather than voting for the lesser of two evils, is sound strategy after all...by not voting for the lesser of two evils....you are helping the greater of two evils win....hmmmm...which means that when the greater of two evils gets into power...they will do the greater of evils, not the lesser of evils....<br /> <br /> Yeah...that sort of thinking got us exactly where we are....libertarians...the democrats,best friends.... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>wrong n00b!!!<br /> <br /> Once enough people say &quot;enough&quot; by showing how much of a sham throwing your vote away is, we&#039;ll have to have a constitutional convention (the states can call for it) to address the issues- too much influence by the uber wealthy, too much influence by questionable, well-financed lobbies, Capitol Hill being essentially &quot;owned&quot; by the &quot;too big to fail&quot; banks, etc... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> yes...and after the greater evil imports 30 million New Democrat voters your dreams of a libertarian paradise are gone forever....because people refused to vote for the perceived lesser of two evils, Mitt Romney....<br /> <br /> yeah...good plan...worked great....see you in the bread lines...</div>

 

[Iceweasel]

<div class="bbWrapper">We lost a governors race because of Loosertarians. What have they won? They routinely hand the election over to the party further from their goals, how does that make sense? The only statement they are making is that if they don&#039;t get their way they&#039;ll screw it up for everybody.<br /> <br /> It would be much more effective to move the party in your direction by influencing it with candidates that can actually win. obama won with 5 million fewer votes, he was beatable but too many stayed at home on principle. We&#039;ll be stuck for many years to come, maybe forever with the laws and regulations and Supreme Court appointees, etc. <br /> <br /> Romney is no die hard conservative but Reagan couldn&#039;t have gotten the Libertarian vote these days.</div>

 

[bripat9643]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046304" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046304" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046304">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It&#039;s the nature of politicians that there is rarely a choice worth making, still, not going to avoid the polls this year. Every election I toy with the idea of skipping it but I still find myself standing there in the booth with my sample ballot in hand to do my civic duty as an American. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I vote simply to cancel out the vote of morons like you.</div>

 

[bripat9643]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 42379" data-quote="Redfish" data-source="post: 10046611" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046611" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046611">Redfish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> in 08 and 12 the voters voted for the greater of two evils. What does that say about the american voter?<br /> <br /> McCain would have only been slightly better than obama, but Romney would have been a very good president. Good people make good presidents. <br /> <br /> The following presidents in recent history were good people:<br /> Kennedy<br /> Reagan<br /> Ford<br /> Carter<br /> Ike<br /> Truman </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Being &quot;good people&quot; doesn&#039;t make them good presidents. Most of the people on your list were disasters as presidents.</div>

 

[Contumacious]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046771" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046771" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046771">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046682" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046682" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046682">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046625">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, I totally forgot that without regulations Kraft would mix Velveeta with shit.<br /> <br /> <br /> Entrepreneurs need government bureaucrats to help them manage their business and buy the necessary infrastructure<br /> <br /> <br /> Talk about a crock, that one is a doozy.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Your example is ludicrious but Exxon/Mobil would certainly pollute your land and drinking water in search of petroleum products. Libertarians would have small communities trying to sue Big Oil in court as the only recourse. Only the federal government has the resources for that shit and the power to make sure they pay up for their ruination of natural resources. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> That matter has been fully addressed in <a href="http://mises.org/daily/2120" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener"><span style="font-size: 22px"><b>&quot;Law, Property Rights, and Air Pollution&quot;, tort or criminal law is a set of prohibitions against the invasion of, or aggression against, private property rights</b><br /> </span></a><br /> <span style="font-size: 22px"><b>But if you are claiming that federal judges can not be trusted with environmental complaints what makes you believe that EPA bureaucrats will be any better?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?</b></span><a href="http://mises.org/daily/2120" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://mises.org/daily/2120</a><br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> As to the public infrastructure argument, you&#039;ve heard it all before and I have come to the conclusion that libertarians think roads and stuff like that are just naturally occurring, self repairing systems. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Roads before 1860 were PRIVATELY owned and maintained. You pay tolls.<br /> <br /> That way some miserable scumbag won&#039;t be able to allege that because I am on a government road there is no expectation of privacy. No stupid cop will be able to stop me and my family because I am not wearing my seat belt , and in the process , smash my windshield and then taser me for good measure.<br /> <br /> .</div>

 

[bripat9643]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046546" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046546" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046546">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046490" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046490" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046490">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046439" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046439" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046439">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046426" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046426" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046426">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046406" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046406" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046406">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046385" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046385" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046385">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I don&#039;t speak for all Libertarians.<br /> <br /> But I do hate tyrants, slavery, warmongering, parasites.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Therein lies the problem, you sound remarkably similar to every online libertarian I have ever encountered and no political movement with such a wide basis in hate cannot be trusted to act in a responsible, compassionate manner. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Therein lies the problem.<br /> <br /> You sound remarkably similar to every online parasite and warmonger.<br /> <br /> To act in a responsible compassionate manner means<br /> <br /> 1- feeding you , clothing you , sheltering you and quenching your thirst<br /> <br /> 2- bombing the fuck out every country on the face of mother earth<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yeah libertarians live by the negative stereotype and scapegoat people until their last miserable breath. Nice example. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>But you are lucky.<br /> <br /> The Demopublicans will cater to your every demand.<br /> <br /> Xmas is fast approaching , get that letter ready to Santa Claus, aka, Harry Reid (D-USSR).<br /> <br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>A responsive government is a hallmark of a free country, the &quot;Demopublicans&quot; are not exactly on the ball in the responsiveness department but at least &quot;let them starve&quot; is not an official policy proposal (yet). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Hardly. A &quot;responsive government&quot; can implement things like segregation.</div>

 

[Lakhota]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <span style="font-size: 22px"><b>voting for the Lesser Evil... LOL!</b></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Other than not voting at all - please tell us what your alternative is.</div>

 

[dilloduck]

<div class="bbWrapper">I do my civic duty by not voting for anyone who belongs to a political party.</div>

 

[Dot Com]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046771" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046771" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046771">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046682" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046682" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046682">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046625">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, I totally forgot that without regulations Kraft would mix Velveeta with shit.<br /> <br /> <br /> Entrepreneurs need government bureaucrats to help them manage their business and buy the necessary infrastructure<br /> <br /> <br /> Talk about a crock, that one is a doozy.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Your example is ludicrious but Exxon/Mobil would certainly pollute your land and drinking water in search of petroleum products. Libertarians would have small communities trying to sue Big Oil in court as the only recourse. Only the federal government has the resources for that shit and the power to make sure they pay up for their ruination of natural resources.<br /> <br /> As to the public infrastructure argument, you&#039;ve heard it all before and I have come to the conclusion that libertarians think roads and stuff like that are just naturally occurring, self repairing systems. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>^ that<br /> <br /> Libertarians are basically deadbeats in that they want all the public utilities &amp; roads/airports, they just don&#039;t want to pay for them</div>

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10047596" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10047596" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10047596">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046771" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046771" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046771">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046682" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046682" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046682">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 33716" data-quote="occupied" data-source="post: 10046625" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046625" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046625">occupied said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 20503" data-quote="Contumacious" data-source="post: 10046588" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046588" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046588">Contumacious said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 28132" data-quote="Dot Com" data-source="post: 10046513" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=10046513" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-10046513">Dot Com said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Libertarians also don&#039;t seem to acct for the fact that the U.S. is in First world- nation, status because we are the world&#039;s reserve currency (libertarians want to abolish the fed) and it bankrolls its military w/ that $$$ to keep everyone else in line by bombing poor non-whites. <img src="/styles/smilies/thup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thup:" title="thup :thup:" data-shortname=":thup:" /> MURICA!!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> We are very lucky that American entrepreneurs are able to make a profit despite massive unconstitutional regulations and confiscatory taxation.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What a crock, you know that those regulations keep the place halfway clean and healthy and the entrepreneurs halfway honest while those taxes fund the security and infrastructure necessary to do business. Do you even think about the bullshit you say? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, I totally forgot that without regulations Kraft would mix Velveeta with shit.<br /> <br /> <br /> Entrepreneurs need government bureaucrats to help them manage their business and buy the necessary infrastructure<br /> <br /> <br /> Talk about a crock, that one is a doozy.<br /> <br /> . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Your example is ludicrious but Exxon/Mobil would certainly pollute your land and drinking water in search of petroleum products. Libertarians would have small communities trying to sue Big Oil in court as the only recourse. Only the federal government has the resources for that shit and the power to make sure they pay up for their ruination of natural resources.<br /> <br /> As to the public infrastructure argument, you&#039;ve heard it all before and I have come to the conclusion that libertarians think roads and stuff like that are just naturally occurring, self repairing systems. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>^ that<br /> <br /> Libertarians are basically deadbeats in that they want all the public utilities &amp; roads/airports, they just don&#039;t want to pay for them </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Really?<br /> <br /> We haven&#039;t ask government to provide those services.<br /> <br /> The government can not steal, loot and plunder in order to provide those services so that it can later claim that we demanded and consented to those services.</div>