want 20 billion a year ?

[WillowTree]

ask a dead person if they'd rather get hit by a stoner or a drunk. get back to us.

 

[namvet]

and stoned drivers will cost how much ????

How much do drunk drivers cost?

and the drugs in the car

 

[namvet]

And I don't see a bunch of news articles about stoned drivers killing a family of four. Happens with booze though.

There is much evidence that people are more attentive while high. I have seen no evidence that alcohol does anything but numb the senses.

Alcohol is the worst drug problem this nation has...and it is legal.

Then we should have a law saying that people must be high in order to drive.

Imagine this on a street, not on a closed course.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1HavgoK9E]Drivers stoned on marijuana test their driving skills - YouTube[/ame]

there ya go. at 20. now up the speed to 55-75 MPH

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Think about how easily led they'd be. They would believe anything the government told them, and do anything the government told them to do.

Exactly.

Pot is why the 1960s were so calm and idyllic on the home front and how potentially doubtful troops kept themselves from challenging lifer craziness in Vietnam.

 

[namvet]

he needs another toke before cutting into your guts. ok with you ??

 

[Truthmatters]

But its OK if hes on oxycotin ?

 

[Truthmatters]

anyone who is stupid enough to think Pot is worth all the money this country wastes on its prohibition is a complete fool who doesnt respect the facts

 

[Katzndogz]

If you want to make a comparison, the costs associated with alcohol consumption including accidents, rehab, lost productivity, medical care, etc, are still about triple of what ever benefit is realized from the taxes collected. Pot heads really think there are no costs.

 

[boedicca]

and stoned drivers will cost how much ????

Last night we drove home (from SF to Oakland) after a dinner party near Golden Gate Park. The morons from the 4/20 Festival had Oak Street tied up in an enormous traffic jam due to the fact that they couldn't react to the green and red lights in a coherent fashion.

We took a different route to get out of the mess. I do support legalizing pot so that dosages are standardized and the criminal gang aspect is minimized...and prisons are cleared of people being held for having minor amounts of pot. Driving while stoned should be a DUI.

Unlike the moron in the OP, there are costs to legalizing pot which need to be recognized. It's not just free money.

Like what?

You hysterics bleat like stuck pigs but you never put up any numbers.
Without substantiated numbers it's clear who the morons are.

Next.

If you think the government of the U.S. is going to legalize pot without enacting an enormous bureaucracy to regulate it, then you are incredibly naive.

Legalizing pot is Not Free Money.

 

[boedicca]

If you want to make a comparison, the costs associated with alcohol consumption including accidents, rehab, lost productivity, medical care, etc, are still about triple of what ever benefit is realized from the taxes collected. Pot heads really think there are no costs.

While driving down Van Ness last night, several stoned out of their minds young men in 4/20 t-shirts wandered into traffic, clearly not paying attention. Pot is not safer than alcohol and thinking their are no negative consequences to making it legal and broadly available is incredibly short sighted.

 

[boedicca]

Last night we drove home (from SF to Oakland) after a dinner party near Golden Gate Park. The morons from the 4/20 Festival had Oak Street tied up in an enormous traffic jam due to the fact that they couldn't react to the green and red lights in a coherent fashion.

It wasn't any worse than usual.

We took a different route to get out of the mess. I do support legalizing pot so that dosages are standardized and the criminal gang aspect is minimized...and prisons are cleared of people being held for having minor amounts of pot. Driving while stoned should be a DUI.

Pretty sure it already is.

Unlike the moron in the OP, there are costs to legalizing pot which need to be recognized. It's not just free money.

Nothing is free but the revenue will far outweigh the costs.

Really? What time did you try to drive down Oak St. last night?

 

[Pop23]

Last night we drove home (from SF to Oakland) after a dinner party near Golden Gate Park. The morons from the 4/20 Festival had Oak Street tied up in an enormous traffic jam due to the fact that they couldn't react to the green and red lights in a coherent fashion.

We took a different route to get out of the mess. I do support legalizing pot so that dosages are standardized and the criminal gang aspect is minimized...and prisons are cleared of people being held for having minor amounts of pot. Driving while stoned should be a DUI.

Unlike the moron in the OP, there are costs to legalizing pot which need to be recognized. It's not just free money.

Like what?

You hysterics bleat like stuck pigs but you never put up any numbers.
Without substantiated numbers it's clear who the morons are.

Next.

If you think the government of the U.S. is going to legalize pot without enacting an enormous bureaucracy to regulate it, then you are incredibly naive.

Legalizing pot is Not Free Money.

No, the added funds required to make it part of the ATF would easily be recaptured from the savings from the DEA.

 

[boedicca]

and stoned drivers will cost how much ????

The costs of the youth losing their ambition and the increase of future welfare for those that are stoned all the time.

You seem to think legalizing pot will increase the number of pot smokers.

If people want to smoke pot, they already are.

Pull your head out of the sand and understand: the "war" on pot was an unmitigated failure. Time for a new approach.

Pot usage will likely increase if pot is legalized.

Legalizing the production and distribution of marijuana in California could cut the price of the drug by as much as 80 percent and increase consumption, according to a new study by the nonprofit RAND Corporation that examines many issues raised by proposals to legalize marijuana in the state.

While the state Board of Equalization has estimated taxing legal marijuana could raise more than $1 billion in revenue, the RAND study cautions that any potential revenue could be dramatically higher or lower based on a number of factors, including the level of taxation, the amount of tax evasion and the response by the federal government.

Past research provides solid evidence that marijuana consumption goes up when prices go down, but the magnitude of the consumption increase cannot be predicted because prices will fall to levels below those ever studied, researchers say. Consumption also might rise because of non-price effects such as advertising or a reduction in stigma, researchers say.

In addition to uncertainty about the taxes levied and evaded, researchers do not know how users will respond to such a large drop in price. Even under a scenario with high taxes ($50 per ounce) and a moderate rate of tax evasion (25 percent), researchers cannot rule out consumption increases of 50 percent to 100 percent, and possibly even larger. If prevalence increased by 100 percent, marijuana use in California would be close to the prevalence levels recorded in the late 1970s.


http://www.rxpgnews.com/research/Le...rug-and-increase-use-study-finds_411114.shtml

 

[Pop23]

he needs another toke before cutting into your guts. ok with you ??

On booze he might beat the crap of you.

On pot he'd offer you a Twinkie and give you a hug.

So,......um, I'll take door number two Monte

 

[asaratis]

Last night we drove home (from SF to Oakland) after a dinner party near Golden Gate Park. The morons from the 4/20 Festival had Oak Street tied up in an enormous traffic jam due to the fact that they couldn't react to the green and red lights in a coherent fashion.

We took a different route to get out of the mess. I do support legalizing pot so that dosages are standardized and the criminal gang aspect is minimized...and prisons are cleared of people being held for having minor amounts of pot. Driving while stoned should be a DUI.

Unlike the moron in the OP, there are costs to legalizing pot which need to be recognized. It's not just free money.

Like what?

You hysterics bleat like stuck pigs but you never put up any numbers.
Without substantiated numbers it's clear who the morons are.

Next.

If you think the government of the U.S. is going to legalize pot without enacting an enormous bureaucracy to regulate it, then you are incredibly naive.

Legalizing pot is Not Free Money.

Naaah! Just give the regulation of legal drugs to the existing Federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) and give it a new name....



DAFT

 

[boedicca]

Like what?

You hysterics bleat like stuck pigs but you never put up any numbers.
Without substantiated numbers it's clear who the morons are.

Next.

If you think the government of the U.S. is going to legalize pot without enacting an enormous bureaucracy to regulate it, then you are incredibly naive.

Legalizing pot is Not Free Money.

No, the added funds required to make it part of the ATF would easily be recaptured from the savings from the DEA.

You are ignoring the nature of our government these days. The DEA won't save money...they'll keep getting funding and grow just like the rest of the beast.

 

[namvet]

he needs another toke before cutting into your guts. ok with you ??

On booze he might beat the crap of you.

On pot he'd offer you a Twinkie and give you a hug.

So,......um, I'll take door number two Monte

drunk he can't stand

stoned the twinkies' inside you got another door Monte???

 

[Pop23]

If you think the government of the U.S. is going to legalize pot without enacting an enormous bureaucracy to regulate it, then you are incredibly naive.

Legalizing pot is Not Free Money.

No, the added funds required to make it part of the ATF would easily be recaptured from the savings from the DEA.

You are ignoring the nature of our government these days. The DEA won't save money...they'll keep getting funding and grow just like the rest of the beast.

I was never much into Pot in my youth. It was available everywhere and I did partake a time or two, mostly, I suppose ditch weed, but if the reason we keep it illegal is because some federal agency will take advantage of it, it is a piss poor reason. IMHO.

We have a large part of our population paying fines, arrested and lives ruined because of the prohibition. It's time to end that.

 

[boedicca]

Ah yes...those peaceful potheads. I wonder if the shooter offered the victims twinkies before or after he shot them. And did he offer the dog he shot a Snausage?

Authorities are hunting for suspects after shooting broke out during a massive marijuana celebration in Denver, leaving two people with gunshot wounds.

The gunfire scattered thousands attending Saturday's 4/20 counterculture holiday, the first since Colorado legalized marijuana.

A man and a woman each suffered non-life threatening gunshot wounds, officials said. Local media reports said a third person was grazed.

Denver Police spokesman Sonny Jackson said investigators are looking for one or two suspects, asking festival attendees for possible photo or video of the shootings.

He said police had no motive for the gunfire.

Witnesses described a scene in which a jovial atmosphere quickly turned to one of panic at the downtown Civic Center Park just before 5 p.m. Several thought firecrackers were being set off, then a man fell bleeding, his dog also shot....

News from The Associated Press

 

[namvet]

how many recreational drugs do we have????