Was Adam really the first human and if so...

[hobelim]

But you are totally objective.

Yes, totally objective, I never was a catholic. The Lord my God taught me how to stitch together the skins of wild animals for cover as I was tempted by the devil in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights while living among the wild beasts. Don't worry, it wasn't all bad. They really know how to party.


If a monkey knew that you believed that you could eat an invisible God and then you will live forever, he would think you were stupid.

 

[ding]

But you are totally objective.

Yes, totally objective, I never was a catholic. The Lord my God taught me how to stitch together the skins of wild animals for cover as I was tempted by the devil in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights while living among the wild beasts.


If a monkey knew that you believed that you could eat an invisible God and then you will live forever, he would think you were stupid.

You don’t have enough faith in God so you don’t ask him to.

I do and he does.

So you will never know.

And none of that changes the fact that you are an apostate. A militant one at that.

 

[ding]

I don’t believe it is possible for a militant anything to be objective.

 

[hobelim]

I don’t believe it is possible for a militant anything to be objective.

What you do profess to believe doesn't look very good on your resume.

 

[ding]

I don’t believe it is possible for a militant anything to be objective.

What you do profess to believe doesn't look very good on your resume.

You must be one of those weak minded individuals if your beliefs are swayed by popular opinion.

 

[hobelim]

I don’t believe it is possible for a militant anything to be objective.

What you do profess to believe doesn't look very good on your resume.

You must be one of those weak minded individuals if your beliefs are swayed by popular opinion.

lol...

Does it really seem like I'm easily swayed or trying to sweet talk anybody dingbat?

I didn't go for the garbage that you have swallowed hook line and sinker when I was 8 years old.

You think that you have a chance now?

lol.... Keep the faith!

 

[ding]

I don’t believe it is possible for a militant anything to be objective.

What you do profess to believe doesn't look very good on your resume.

You must be one of those weak minded individuals if your beliefs are swayed by popular opinion.

lol...

Does it really seem like I'm easily swayed or trying to sweet talk anybody dingbat?

Yes, it does seem that way. Why else would you have tried to influence me with what others think about my beliefs.

Besides, I’m in the majority.

 

[hobelim]

I don’t believe it is possible for a militant anything to be objective.

What you do profess to believe doesn't look very good on your resume.

You must be one of those weak minded individuals if your beliefs are swayed by popular opinion.

lol...

Does it really seem like I'm easily swayed or trying to sweet talk anybody dingbat?

Yes, it does seem that way. Why else would you have tried to influence me with what others think about my beliefs.

Besides, I’m in the majority.

Influence you ? No, you have been caught red handed. I have exposed you.

And you are the majority?

lol.... GRRRRRRRRR..

My my grandma, what big teeth you have.

Does it look like I'm shaking?

 

[ding]

I don’t believe it is possible for a militant anything to be objective.

What you do profess to believe doesn't look very good on your resume.

You must be one of those weak minded individuals if your beliefs are swayed by popular opinion.

lol...

Does it really seem like I'm easily swayed or trying to sweet talk anybody dingbat?

Yes, it does seem that way. Why else would you have tried to influence me with what others think about my beliefs.

Besides, I’m in the majority.

Influence you ? No, you have been caught red handed. I have exposed you.

And you are the majority?

lol.... GRRRRRRRRR..

My my grandma, what big teeth you have.

Does it look like I'm shaking?

Yes, influence me.

Your militancy holds no sway with me though.

 

[hobelim]

What you do profess to believe doesn't look very good on your resume.

You must be one of those weak minded individuals if your beliefs are swayed by popular opinion.

lol...

Does it really seem like I'm easily swayed or trying to sweet talk anybody dingbat?

Yes, it does seem that way. Why else would you have tried to influence me with what others think about my beliefs.

Besides, I’m in the majority.

Influence you ? No, you have been caught red handed. I have exposed you.

And you are the majority?

lol.... GRRRRRRRRR..

My my grandma, what big teeth you have.

Does it look like I'm shaking?

Yes, influence me.

Your militancy holds no sway with me though.

lol... militancy? lol... Do you feel threatened? Am I causing you anxiety? Are you afraid of something?

I'm sure you are. And I'm not surprised.

Who wouldn't have an acute anxiety issue when they are caught in a web of their own lies?

Guilt will bring you down like a stone. I have nothing to do with your guilt.

My hands are clean.

 

[ding]

You must be one of those weak minded individuals if your beliefs are swayed by popular opinion.

lol...

Does it really seem like I'm easily swayed or trying to sweet talk anybody dingbat?

Yes, it does seem that way. Why else would you have tried to influence me with what others think about my beliefs.

Besides, I’m in the majority.

Influence you ? No, you have been caught red handed. I have exposed you.

And you are the majority?

lol.... GRRRRRRRRR..

My my grandma, what big teeth you have.

Does it look like I'm shaking?

Yes, influence me.

Your militancy holds no sway with me though.

lol... militancy? lol... Do you feel threatened? Am I causing you anxiety? Are you afraid of something?

I'm sure you are. And I'm not surprised.

Who wouldn't have an acute anxiety issue when they are caught in a web of their own lies?

Guilt will bring you down like a stone. I have nothing to do with your guilt.

My hands are clean.

Stating the obvious is not being afraid. It is stating the obvious. You seek to subordinate religion. That’s plain and simple.

 

[hobelim]

lol...

Does it really seem like I'm easily swayed or trying to sweet talk anybody dingbat?

Yes, it does seem that way. Why else would you have tried to influence me with what others think about my beliefs.

Besides, I’m in the majority.

Influence you ? No, you have been caught red handed. I have exposed you.

And you are the majority?

lol.... GRRRRRRRRR..

My my grandma, what big teeth you have.

Does it look like I'm shaking?

Yes, influence me.

Your militancy holds no sway with me though.

lol... militancy? lol... Do you feel threatened? Am I causing you anxiety? Are you afraid of something?

I'm sure you are. And I'm not surprised.

Who wouldn't have an acute anxiety issue when they are caught in a web of their own lies?

Guilt will bring you down like a stone. I have nothing to do with your guilt.

My hands are clean.

Stating the obvious is not being afraid. It is stating the obvious. You seek to subordinate religion. That’s plain and simple.

You may think that given the defiled state of your mind . The truth is you would not have accused me of being militant unless you felt the weight of your guilt, perceived some sort of threat, and were afraid. so I'll clear it up for you.

I am not here to subordinate religion.

I have come to set the prisoners free and put an end to the curse that Jesus was instructed by God to put on the nations because they disrespected him constantly, denounced the only way to eternal life (making evil a deliberate choice) and pissed off his God just one too many times.

 

[ding]

Yes, it does seem that way. Why else would you have tried to influence me with what others think about my beliefs.

Besides, I’m in the majority.

Influence you ? No, you have been caught red handed. I have exposed you.

And you are the majority?

lol.... GRRRRRRRRR..

My my grandma, what big teeth you have.

Does it look like I'm shaking?

Yes, influence me.

Your militancy holds no sway with me though.

lol... militancy? lol... Do you feel threatened? Am I causing you anxiety? Are you afraid of something?

I'm sure you are. And I'm not surprised.

Who wouldn't have an acute anxiety issue when they are caught in a web of their own lies?

Guilt will bring you down like a stone. I have nothing to do with your guilt.

My hands are clean.

Stating the obvious is not being afraid. It is stating the obvious. You seek to subordinate religion. That’s plain and simple.

You may think that given the defiled state of your mind . The truth is you would not have accused me of being militant unless you felt the weight of your guilt, perceived some sort of threat, and were afraid. so I'll clear it up for you.

I am not here to subordinate religion.

I have come to set the prisoners free and put an end to the curse that Jesus was instructed by God to put on the nations because they disrespected him constantly, denounced the only way to eternal life (making evil a deliberate choice) and pissed off his God just one too many times.

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You seek to subordinate religion.

To what?

 

[hobelim]

You seek to subordinate religion.

To what?

The truth, so kill me...

People who profess to believe in absurdities that are contradicted by reality every day and pray to a figment of their imagination for solutions to real life problems should not be in any position of authority high or low that requires critical thinking or the public trust.

They have already openly demonstrated by those openly professed beliefs that they are not capable of sound judgment and not qualified for the task.

 

[RWS]

Just follow your ideal of Jesus. Doesn't matter if he existed or not. It's the ideal of Jesus.

Follow your life based on the ideal of Jesus. Ask what your ideal of Jesus would do in any particular matter, when you're at a crossroads.

There's no religion necessary. It's just the belief in an ideal. Can be many other figures than Jesus. The point is doing what is "good" for humanity.

What is good for Humanity? Isn't necessarily what is good for a particular Human.

That's true. Do what's best for survival of the species, not the singular human.

 

[RWS]

Wow... geez... You sound like you're listening at first, but then you go way off. You're another brother for dingother.

HI! Nice to meet you!

I aimed my response to the thread as a whole. I've read it. The disconnects are pretty well obvious. So, what needs to be said was not being considered.

Amateur historians and people taught in seminaries see the world from their own little box. Neither would be willing to consider the fact that they might have something wrong.

Ummmm, you're just a little ant waiting for someone to jump on.

Good luck!

Please don't jump on me.

Even a little ant can have a stinging bite.

And I agree with you, I think we're thinking on the same side, sans alcohol.

And i mean me, not you. You're absolutely right. Religions are in terrible boxes, and I don't how to break the boxes without violence. Because it should not take violence to make people see the truth.

A lot of people talk about truth. Most of them are talking about subjective truth.

Do you know how to see objective truth?

Your objective truth is actually subjective truth. Your truth is based on the fact that you were born into your religion. That's subjective.

If you were born into a different family that had a different religion, you would be arguing just as hard for that other religion.

 

[RWS]

Ummmm, you're just a little ant waiting for someone to jump on.

Good luck!

Please don't jump on me.

Even a little ant can have a stinging bite.

And I agree with you, I think we're thinking on the same side, sans alcohol.

And i mean me, not you. You're absolutely right. Religions are in terrible boxes, and I don't how to break the boxes without violence. Because it should not take violence to make people see the truth.

A lot of people talk about truth. Most of them are talking about subjective truth.

Do you know how to see objective truth?

Can I try?

Those who believe that God can be handed out and eaten like a cheap snack food are at best, not too swift.

Hows that for objective truth?

That would be an example of subjective truth.

The question wasn’t give an example of subjective truth. The question was how does one go about seeing objective truth.

You use the practice of science. You don't just go on stuff because you were born into it, and the stories you've been told. You go with the science where you can actually test things and determine the validity of the evidence. And science says that the Earth was created 4.5 billion years ago. Not 6000 years ago.

 

[RWS]

Just follow your ideal of Jesus. Doesn't matter if he existed or not. It's the ideal of Jesus.

Follow your life based on the ideal of Jesus. Ask what your ideal of Jesus would do in any particular matter, when you're at a crossroads.

There's no religion necessary. It's just the belief in an ideal. Can be many other figures than Jesus. The point is doing what is "good" for humanity.

There are two issues:

1) If the path you've chosen results in answered prayers and you having an abundant life, then you can thank the God you're following. If they aren't, maybe you're following the wrong God

2) If the Bible makes a promise or a prediction and it turns out to be true, then as our Declaration of Independence says, the truth is self evident.

There are no issues. There is no God. We can't insert an imaginary being as the monkey wrench in our lives.

We have ideals, that are natural to most of us, and every other intelligent life form. Those ideals are there because it helps us survive, and therefore procreate more.

Religion is the monkey wrench, which tells us to kill and subjugate innocent people to promote the religion. That's a power issue, which is unique to humans, where we seek to make wealth based on the suffering of others.

We need to stop following religions, and start following reality. And help each other, instead of hating each other.

Sounds like Jesus, right? But it's not, it's an ideal that religions won't let us follow.

 

[hobelim]

Influence you ? No, you have been caught red handed. I have exposed you.

And you are the majority?

lol.... GRRRRRRRRR..

My my grandma, what big teeth you have.

Does it look like I'm shaking?

Yes, influence me.

Your militancy holds no sway with me though.

lol... militancy? lol... Do you feel threatened? Am I causing you anxiety? Are you afraid of something?

I'm sure you are. And I'm not surprised.

Who wouldn't have an acute anxiety issue when they are caught in a web of their own lies?

Guilt will bring you down like a stone. I have nothing to do with your guilt.

My hands are clean.

Stating the obvious is not being afraid. It is stating the obvious. You seek to subordinate religion. That’s plain and simple.

You may think that given the defiled state of your mind . The truth is you would not have accused me of being militant unless you felt the weight of your guilt, perceived some sort of threat, and were afraid. so I'll clear it up for you.

I am not here to subordinate religion.

I have come to set the prisoners free and put an end to the curse that Jesus was instructed by God to put on the nations because they disrespected him constantly, denounced the only way to eternal life (making evil a deliberate choice) and pissed off his God just one too many times.

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

No. You are wrong. This country is supposed to be dedicated to and stand for truth, liberty, and equal justice under the law. That in and of itself requires the condemnation and extirpation of all religions that are based on provable lies, suppression of the known truth, perversion of justice, elimination of individual liberty, and the establishment of secular laws that favor believers and criminalize unbelievers.. Its completely un-American. Under existing law your religion is guilty of child abuse, even if there were no sexual crimes, but there are many. You teach people that the devil, pure evil, is any rational objection to what is objectively and verifiably false creating a state of cognitive dissonance, effectively rendering the mind useless as so generously demonstrated by you in your obstinate stupidity in trying to justify what your own bible teaches is evil, the worship of that which is not God, an abomination that causes desolation. Chaos in the mind and the inevitable degradation and ultimate destruction of a civilized society.

All of you believers out there are hell bent on destroying every founding principle of this country in the name of a false three in one edible god that became a man but does not actually correspond to any real living being ever in existence.. Even stooping so low as electing to the highest office the repulsive antithesis of everything you pretend to stand for. Thats not communism. Thats not socialism. Thats not religious freedom.Thats not patriotism. Thats not making America great again. Thats not putting America first. Thats not faith in Jesus. Thats not love for God.

Thats flat out evil.

Do yourself a favor. Just shut up and find another hobby. You suck at acting.

BTW if someone really wanted to screw up this country they wouldn't suppress religion, they would promote it.