Was Adam really the first human and if so...

[RWS]

There is no God. We need to stop following religions, and start following reality. And help each other, instead of hating each other.

If there is no "God", then there is no such thing as moral law. If there is no God, then we're just animals just like lions, hyenas and rats are animals. As such, why should we "help each other" unless there is some direct benefit to us? For that matter, and provided they don't get caught, what's the downside from them stealing from another?

There are things that are real, and help us advance. One of them is trying to keep our species alive. We are animals, just like lions and hyenas and rats.

Those animals don't go around and kill each other, like humans do. They realize they need to help each other to keep the species alive.

Humans, however, want to kill each other based on Santa Claus religions.

 

[K9Buck]

As is too often the case, the religious resort to simplistic, pseudo-philosophical gibberish in their claim the only basis for any form of morality is religion. May I suggest a cursory study of the history of philosophy may surprise you.?

Ok, so who gets to decide what is moral? You? LOL!

Morality comes from our creator, otherwise known as "God". If something is "immoral", it is because it goes against God's wishes.

 

[K9Buck]

Those animals don't go around and kill each other, like humans do. They realize they need to help each other to keep the species alive. Humans, however, want to kill each other based on Santa Claus religions.

Say what? Animals kill and eat one another every day.

Humans kill other humans for multitudes of reasons. In the U.S., I'd say religious beliefs are the motive behind a very scant number of murders. Can you demonstrate otherwise?

 

[ding]

Even a little ant can have a stinging bite.

And I agree with you, I think we're thinking on the same side, sans alcohol.

And i mean me, not you. You're absolutely right. Religions are in terrible boxes, and I don't how to break the boxes without violence. Because it should not take violence to make people see the truth.

A lot of people talk about truth. Most of them are talking about subjective truth.

Do you know how to see objective truth?

Your objective truth is actually subjective truth. Your truth is based on the fact that you were born into your religion. That's subjective.

If you were born into a different family that had a different religion, you would be arguing just as hard for that other religion.

Not true. I left my religion. But regardless of that, that doesn't really enter the determination.

Do you know how to see objective truth? It's not that fucking complicated.

If you can't tell me how one sees objective truth, then how the hell can you tell me I am not objective?

You only see subjective truth, thru you're religion lenses.

Nope. The other way around.

Let me know when you get a clue on how to be objective or you could pay me like 25 bucks and I could tell you.

 

[midcan5]

53 pages wow, kinda amazing. I covered race in the link below, check it out, and for those interested in prehistory see this book.

'Prehistory: The Making Of The Human Mind' by Colin Renfrew

Prehistory: The Making Of The Human Mind by Colin Renfrew

Race: Race is a Myth

Fascinating youtube on those guys in the insurance ad.

 

[hobelim]

lol... militancy? lol... Do you feel threatened? Am I causing you anxiety? Are you afraid of something?

I'm sure you are. And I'm not surprised.

Who wouldn't have an acute anxiety issue when they are caught in a web of their own lies?

Guilt will bring you down like a stone. I have nothing to do with your guilt.

My hands are clean.

Stating the obvious is not being afraid. It is stating the obvious. You seek to subordinate religion. That’s plain and simple.

You may think that given the defiled state of your mind . The truth is you would not have accused me of being militant unless you felt the weight of your guilt, perceived some sort of threat, and were afraid. so I'll clear it up for you.

I am not here to subordinate religion.

I have come to set the prisoners free and put an end to the curse that Jesus was instructed by God to put on the nations because they disrespected him constantly, denounced the only way to eternal life (making evil a deliberate choice) and pissed off his God just one too many times.

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

No. You are wrong. This country is supposed to be dedicated to and stand for truth, liberty, and equal justice under the law. That in and of itself requires the condemnation and extirpation of all religions that are based on provable lies, suppression of the known truth, perversion of justice, elimination of individual liberty, and the establishment of secular laws that favor believers and criminalize unbelievers.. Its completely un-American. Under existing law your religion is guilty of child abuse, even if there were no sexual crimes, but there are many. You teach people that the devil, pure evil, is any rational objection to what is objectively and verifiably false creating a state of cognitive dissonance, effectively rendering the mind useless as so generously demonstrated by you in your obstinate stupidity in trying to justify what your own bible teaches is evil, the worship of that which is not God, an abomination that causes desolation. Chaos in the mind and the inevitable degradation and ultimate destruction of a civilized society.

All of you believers out there are hell bent on destroying every founding principle of this country in the name of a false three in one edible god that became a man but does not actually correspond to any real living being ever in existence.. Even stooping so low as electing to the highest office the repulsive antithesis of everything you pretend to stand for. Thats not communism. Thats not socialism. Thats not religious freedom.Thats not patriotism. Thats not making America great again. Thats not putting America first. Thats not faith in Jesus. Thats not love for God.

Thats flat out evil.

Do yourself a favor. Just shut up and find another hobby. You suck at acting.

BTW if someone really wanted to screw up this country they wouldn't suppress religion, they would promote it.

Hell, dude, you are even more extreme than I thought. You are at open war with religion. Which religions do you want to suffer extirpation?

Hey dude, I'm just down with Jesus. Not the sissified three-in-one edible mangod that you munch on, the militant son of a bitch who said,

"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." in other words, extirpated.

You have a problem with that?

 

[ding]

Stating the obvious is not being afraid. It is stating the obvious. You seek to subordinate religion. That’s plain and simple.

You may think that given the defiled state of your mind . The truth is you would not have accused me of being militant unless you felt the weight of your guilt, perceived some sort of threat, and were afraid. so I'll clear it up for you.

I am not here to subordinate religion.

I have come to set the prisoners free and put an end to the curse that Jesus was instructed by God to put on the nations because they disrespected him constantly, denounced the only way to eternal life (making evil a deliberate choice) and pissed off his God just one too many times.

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

No. You are wrong. This country is supposed to be dedicated to and stand for truth, liberty, and equal justice under the law. That in and of itself requires the condemnation and extirpation of all religions that are based on provable lies, suppression of the known truth, perversion of justice, elimination of individual liberty, and the establishment of secular laws that favor believers and criminalize unbelievers.. Its completely un-American. Under existing law your religion is guilty of child abuse, even if there were no sexual crimes, but there are many. You teach people that the devil, pure evil, is any rational objection to what is objectively and verifiably false creating a state of cognitive dissonance, effectively rendering the mind useless as so generously demonstrated by you in your obstinate stupidity in trying to justify what your own bible teaches is evil, the worship of that which is not God, an abomination that causes desolation. Chaos in the mind and the inevitable degradation and ultimate destruction of a civilized society.

All of you believers out there are hell bent on destroying every founding principle of this country in the name of a false three in one edible god that became a man but does not actually correspond to any real living being ever in existence.. Even stooping so low as electing to the highest office the repulsive antithesis of everything you pretend to stand for. Thats not communism. Thats not socialism. Thats not religious freedom.Thats not patriotism. Thats not making America great again. Thats not putting America first. Thats not faith in Jesus. Thats not love for God.

Thats flat out evil.

Do yourself a favor. Just shut up and find another hobby. You suck at acting.

BTW if someone really wanted to screw up this country they wouldn't suppress religion, they would promote it.

Hell, dude, you are even more extreme than I thought. You are at open war with religion. Which religions do you want to suffer extirpation?

Hey dude, I'm just down with Jesus. Not the sissified three-in-one edible mangod that you munch on, the militant son of a bitch who said,

"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." in other words, extirpated.

He didn’t give you that option.

 

[ding]

Stating the obvious is not being afraid. It is stating the obvious. You seek to subordinate religion. That’s plain and simple.

You may think that given the defiled state of your mind . The truth is you would not have accused me of being militant unless you felt the weight of your guilt, perceived some sort of threat, and were afraid. so I'll clear it up for you.

I am not here to subordinate religion.

I have come to set the prisoners free and put an end to the curse that Jesus was instructed by God to put on the nations because they disrespected him constantly, denounced the only way to eternal life (making evil a deliberate choice) and pissed off his God just one too many times.

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

No. You are wrong. This country is supposed to be dedicated to and stand for truth, liberty, and equal justice under the law. That in and of itself requires the condemnation and extirpation of all religions that are based on provable lies, suppression of the known truth, perversion of justice, elimination of individual liberty, and the establishment of secular laws that favor believers and criminalize unbelievers.. Its completely un-American. Under existing law your religion is guilty of child abuse, even if there were no sexual crimes, but there are many. You teach people that the devil, pure evil, is any rational objection to what is objectively and verifiably false creating a state of cognitive dissonance, effectively rendering the mind useless as so generously demonstrated by you in your obstinate stupidity in trying to justify what your own bible teaches is evil, the worship of that which is not God, an abomination that causes desolation. Chaos in the mind and the inevitable degradation and ultimate destruction of a civilized society.

All of you believers out there are hell bent on destroying every founding principle of this country in the name of a false three in one edible god that became a man but does not actually correspond to any real living being ever in existence.. Even stooping so low as electing to the highest office the repulsive antithesis of everything you pretend to stand for. Thats not communism. Thats not socialism. Thats not religious freedom.Thats not patriotism. Thats not making America great again. Thats not putting America first. Thats not faith in Jesus. Thats not love for God.

Thats flat out evil.

Do yourself a favor. Just shut up and find another hobby. You suck at acting.

BTW if someone really wanted to screw up this country they wouldn't suppress religion, they would promote it.

Hell, dude, you are even more extreme than I thought. You are at open war with religion. Which religions do you want to suffer extirpation?

Hey dude, I'm just down with Jesus. Not the sissified three-in-one edible mangod that you munch on, the militant son of a bitch who said,

"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." in other words, extirpated.

There are many different paths. You aren’t God.

 

[ding]

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

No. You are wrong. This country is supposed to be dedicated to and stand for truth, liberty, and equal justice under the law. That in and of itself requires the condemnation and extirpation of all religions that are based on provable lies, suppression of the known truth, perversion of justice, elimination of individual liberty, and the establishment of secular laws that favor believers and criminalize unbelievers.. Its completely un-American. Under existing law your religion is guilty of child abuse, even if there were no sexual crimes, but there are many. You teach people that the devil, pure evil, is any rational objection to what is objectively and verifiably false creating a state of cognitive dissonance, effectively rendering the mind useless as so generously demonstrated by you in your obstinate stupidity in trying to justify what your own bible teaches is evil, the worship of that which is not God, an abomination that causes desolation. Chaos in the mind and the inevitable degradation and ultimate destruction of a civilized society.

All of you believers out there are hell bent on destroying every founding principle of this country in the name of a false three in one edible god that became a man but does not actually correspond to any real living being ever in existence.. Even stooping so low as electing to the highest office the repulsive antithesis of everything you pretend to stand for. Thats not communism. Thats not socialism. Thats not religious freedom.Thats not patriotism. Thats not making America great again. Thats not putting America first. Thats not faith in Jesus. Thats not love for God.

Thats flat out evil.

Do yourself a favor. Just shut up and find another hobby. You suck at acting.

BTW if someone really wanted to screw up this country they wouldn't suppress religion, they would promote it.

Hell, dude, you are even more extreme than I thought. You are at open war with religion. Which religions do you want to suffer extirpation?

Hey dude, I'm just down with Jesus. Not the sissified three-in-one edible mangod that you munch on, the militant son of a bitch who said,

"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." in other words, extirpated.

He didn’t give you that option.

lol...you don't have even the slightest inkling about what God has or has not authorized me to do.

You have wasted your life dining on a lie. You do not know God and when he is revealed to you, you despise him.

Whats your position? Everyone has a god given right to perpetuate lies?

That sounds like something Satan would say.

I have chosen the better portion. It won’t be taken from me.

 

[hobelim]

You may think that given the defiled state of your mind . The truth is you would not have accused me of being militant unless you felt the weight of your guilt, perceived some sort of threat, and were afraid. so I'll clear it up for you.

I am not here to subordinate religion.

I have come to set the prisoners free and put an end to the curse that Jesus was instructed by God to put on the nations because they disrespected him constantly, denounced the only way to eternal life (making evil a deliberate choice) and pissed off his God just one too many times.

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

No. You are wrong. This country is supposed to be dedicated to and stand for truth, liberty, and equal justice under the law. That in and of itself requires the condemnation and extirpation of all religions that are based on provable lies, suppression of the known truth, perversion of justice, elimination of individual liberty, and the establishment of secular laws that favor believers and criminalize unbelievers.. Its completely un-American. Under existing law your religion is guilty of child abuse, even if there were no sexual crimes, but there are many. You teach people that the devil, pure evil, is any rational objection to what is objectively and verifiably false creating a state of cognitive dissonance, effectively rendering the mind useless as so generously demonstrated by you in your obstinate stupidity in trying to justify what your own bible teaches is evil, the worship of that which is not God, an abomination that causes desolation. Chaos in the mind and the inevitable degradation and ultimate destruction of a civilized society.

All of you believers out there are hell bent on destroying every founding principle of this country in the name of a false three in one edible god that became a man but does not actually correspond to any real living being ever in existence.. Even stooping so low as electing to the highest office the repulsive antithesis of everything you pretend to stand for. Thats not communism. Thats not socialism. Thats not religious freedom.Thats not patriotism. Thats not making America great again. Thats not putting America first. Thats not faith in Jesus. Thats not love for God.

Thats flat out evil.

Do yourself a favor. Just shut up and find another hobby. You suck at acting.

BTW if someone really wanted to screw up this country they wouldn't suppress religion, they would promote it.

Hell, dude, you are even more extreme than I thought. You are at open war with religion. Which religions do you want to suffer extirpation?

Hey dude, I'm just down with Jesus. Not the sissified three-in-one edible mangod that you munch on, the militant son of a bitch who said,

"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." in other words, extirpated.

He didn’t give you that option.

lol...you don't have even the slightest inkling about what God has or has not authorized me to do.

You have wasted your life dining on a lie. You do not know God and when he is revealed to you, you despise him.

Whats your position? Everyone has a god given right to fuck up other peoples minds for life by perpetuating lies?

Like I don't have the right to expose the lies?

 

[ding]

You can say it as poetically as you like, it's the same thing. You seek to subordinate religion. Just as socialism and communism require. So your mentioning prisoners is apropos.

No. You are wrong. This country is supposed to be dedicated to and stand for truth, liberty, and equal justice under the law. That in and of itself requires the condemnation and extirpation of all religions that are based on provable lies, suppression of the known truth, perversion of justice, elimination of individual liberty, and the establishment of secular laws that favor believers and criminalize unbelievers.. Its completely un-American. Under existing law your religion is guilty of child abuse, even if there were no sexual crimes, but there are many. You teach people that the devil, pure evil, is any rational objection to what is objectively and verifiably false creating a state of cognitive dissonance, effectively rendering the mind useless as so generously demonstrated by you in your obstinate stupidity in trying to justify what your own bible teaches is evil, the worship of that which is not God, an abomination that causes desolation. Chaos in the mind and the inevitable degradation and ultimate destruction of a civilized society.

All of you believers out there are hell bent on destroying every founding principle of this country in the name of a false three in one edible god that became a man but does not actually correspond to any real living being ever in existence.. Even stooping so low as electing to the highest office the repulsive antithesis of everything you pretend to stand for. Thats not communism. Thats not socialism. Thats not religious freedom.Thats not patriotism. Thats not making America great again. Thats not putting America first. Thats not faith in Jesus. Thats not love for God.

Thats flat out evil.

Do yourself a favor. Just shut up and find another hobby. You suck at acting.

BTW if someone really wanted to screw up this country they wouldn't suppress religion, they would promote it.

Hell, dude, you are even more extreme than I thought. You are at open war with religion. Which religions do you want to suffer extirpation?

Hey dude, I'm just down with Jesus. Not the sissified three-in-one edible mangod that you munch on, the militant son of a bitch who said,

"Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots." in other words, extirpated.

He didn’t give you that option.

lol...you don't have even the slightest inkling about what God has or has not authorized me to do.

You have wasted your life dining on a lie. You do not know God and when he is revealed to you, you despise him.

Whats your position? Everyone has a god given right to fuck up other peoples minds for life by perpetuating lies?

Like I don't have a right to expose you?

Why did you delete your post? Vanity?

 

[ding]

Because it still sounds like something Satan would say.

 

[hobelim]

Because it still sounds like something Satan would say.

Really?


"Every plant that has not been planted by my heavenly Father will be extirpated."

 

[ding]

Because it still sounds like something Satan would say.

Really?


"Every plant that has not been planted by my heavenly Father will be extirpated."

Not that part. The part where you appropriated it for evil.

 

[hobelim]

Because it still sounds like something Satan would say.

Really?


"Every plant that has not been planted by my heavenly Father will be extirpated."

Not that part. The part where you appropriated it for evil.

What evil? Telling people that God cannot be handed out like a cheap snack food and eaten? Telling them that that degrading religious practice is not the way to eternal life but the exact opposite?

As if your sin wasn't already as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.. pft

 

[ding]

Because it still sounds like something Satan would say.

Really?


"Every plant that has not been planted by my heavenly Father will be extirpated."

Not that part. The part where you appropriated it for evil.

What evil? Telling people that God cannot be handed out like a cheap snack food and eaten? Telling them that that degrading religious practice is not the way to eternal life but the exact opposite?

As if your sin wasn't already as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.. pft

You don’t have enough faith in God. I do.

 

[hobelim]

Because it still sounds like something Satan would say.

Really?


"Every plant that has not been planted by my heavenly Father will be extirpated."

Not that part. The part where you appropriated it for evil.

What evil? Telling people that God cannot be handed out like a cheap snack food and eaten? Telling them that that degrading religious practice is not the way to eternal life but the exact opposite?

As if your sin wasn't already as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.. pft

You don’t have enough faith in God. I do.

LOL...

If you had any faith in God at all you would never perpetuate the evil of a religion that you knew was bullshit and rejected when you were a child but then returned to as an adult, like a dog returns to its vomit.


You only have faith in your deluded and unrestrained imagination.

 

[BlackFlag]

...did he look like us? And if the answer is "yes", then what is or was Homo naledi?

Homo naledi is just fake bones buried by satan to fool Zeus's children.

I've grown tired of your unprovoked, childish trolling and am putting you on "ignore". Bye.

Aw poor widdle snowflake. Baby didn’t get his baba?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ok, so who gets to decide what is moral?

Each person decides for themselves. Including you. And this morality is informed by the genetic accident of where and when you were born. That's why you have better morals than some Jesus freak from the 15th century, despite carrying around the same religious text. No, you do not get your morals from your religion. That's a ruse you tell yourself.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In the U.S., I'd say religious beliefs are the motive behind a very scant number of murders.

I would agree, and we have secular reformation of both religion and government to thank for that.