Was Trump Wiretapped? Just the facts.

[Hutch Starskey]

No spin. No smoke and mirrors. No conjecture. Was he wire tapped? If that can't be answered everything else is Conspiracy Theory material of attempting to create links between unrelated incidents.

At this point, it see - the whole wire-tap claim is unsubstantiated and taking on the guise of a conspiracy theory.

From: Analysis | Donald Trump was a conspiracy-theory candidate. Now he’s on the edge of being a conspiracy-theory president.

The problem here, of course, is that what Levin — and Breitbart — use as evidence for these claims are a series of seemingly unconnected events — from FISA court requests to Trump joking about the Russia email hack, to the release of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails in the fall. The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.


The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.


It seems unlikely — given Trump’s past pattern of making baseless claims without proof and then simply insisting he is right and no evidence is needed to prove the point — that any meaningful effort will be made by the Trump administration to connect the dots on this alleged wiretapping conspiracy.​

From the LA Times: Citing no evidence, Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phones during the election

It would be highly unusual for a sitting president to be aware of such [surveillance] requests. By blaming Obama directly, Trump accused the former president of reaching into a federal investigation and signing off on an illegal wiretap, which is a felony.


If federal investigators did monitor Trump’s phones or computers lawfully, a court would have demanded information about potential criminal misconduct or unlawful foreign contacts. Such investigations are closely held and rarely, if ever, shared with the White House.


It is possible Trump has no evidence his phones were tapped and is repeating unfounded reports circulating in conservative media circles. ​

There is a lot of smoke, mirrors and redirection going on here, an attempt I'm sure, to distract from the demands for an investigation into Russian ties with the Trump campaign.

Rather than blowing this up into a full blown conspiracy theory, how about looking at actual evidence?

First question to answer is: is there any hard evidence that Trump Tower was indeed wire tapped? If we can't answer that, the rest is meaningless distraction.

From the Washington Post: Analysis | Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Brietbart article on FISA Requests: June & October. Breitbart based it's article entirely on one source: and article written by Louise Mensch, a former Tory member of the British Parliament and an independent journalist for Heat Street. But no one seems to be able to independently confirm the claim.

The Washington Post for months has sought to confirm this report of a FISA warrant related to the Trump campaign but has been unable to do so. Presumably other U.S. news organizations have tried to do so as well. So one has to take this claim with a huge dose of skepticism. Indeed, the New York Times reported before the election that the FBI “ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts” with the Russian banks.​

According to the WP article:

The White House provided three other sources. Two, a National Review article and a Fox News interview, are simply derivative of the Heat Street article, with no independent confirmation. The third is a New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides. (We recall the president has previously deemed Times reporting on this matter as “fake news.”)​

The article goes on to conclude:

Only two articles, both with British roots, have reported that a FISA court order was granted in October to examine possible activity between two Russian banks and a computer server in the Trump Tower. This claim has not been confirmed by a U.S. news organizations. Moreover, neither article says President Obama requested the order or that it resulted in the tapping of Trump’s phone lines.​

And lastly:

Moreover, the articles do not support the White House’s claim that these were “potentially politically motivated investigations” led by President Obama. The articles all suggest the FISA requests — if they happened — were done by the intelligence agencies and the FBI.​

So, before we have this huge political uproar, and immediate comparisons to Watergate, lets' get at the facts first. Can anyone answer these questions?

1. Was Trump wiretapped? If yes - what evidence? Were bugs found in Trump Tower?

2. Were FISA requests issued? If yes - can the claims be confirmed by more then one source and for what specifically were they for?

Until those are answered - there's nothing but smoke.

Right in your OP it states, "New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides..." But he wasn't wiretapped?

Please resign as Moderator

The Russian officials are tapped, fool.

but not americans. so if they have tape of americans, guess what, they tapped americans. it is fking illegal you stupid fk. look up the law. They are not allowed to listen to americans.

Better yet, how can they say someone didn't talk to the ruskies if they weren't listening to them? see the dilemma?

No, it's not illegal, moron.

 

[Slade3200]

How many times do I have to tell you to stop putting words in my mouth. I never claimed anything about the collusion with Russia.

Not talking about YOU. I am talking about the rest of the nutter Liberal universe who has continued to claim there was ...

WEAK... we can have a pointless conversation about what the wingnuts claim all day but whats the point of that. How about you stick to the conversation at hand. If you reply to me then comment on my statements. When you try and characterize my views as the same as the wingnuts then you are pretty much giving up on the debate.

dude, , the other dude explained his argument was with others and not you. WTF is wrong with you?

The other dude has been engaging with me all day and putting words in my mouth. He wasn't making general claims he was responding to my posts and distorting my statements with those of wingnut extremists. I guess that's what he does when he can't win an argument. I have every right to call him out for it

but he didn't say you in that particular post you went off on. WTF is wrong with you?

I don't know what wrong with me... perhaps I get reactionary when people call me a liar and then distort my statements. He didn't do that in the post you're talking about as he was going after deomocrats, which I'm not, but he tried to make a case that I was a liar for saying that trump fired Flynn in the post he relied to before the one you're talking about. So reactionary and sick of the BS would be the answer to your question.

 

[Slade3200]

You are such a gullible puppet... Its funny watching people like you running around chasing all the shiny objects Trump is throwing your way. With your logic Trump can literally make any claim of illegal activity by Obama and you'd justify it... who cares about evidence right? Anything to distract from the shit stain Trump is leaving on the floor of the white house.

well fk, you don't worry about evidence. How long we been talking about russia? Now post up your evidence. squirm a little while you try to figure out how to reply.

I never claimed that there was collusion. I actually don't think there was, as there is no evidence of it. But multiple officials lied about and/or hid meetings with Russian officials which would warrant further investigation. It brings the question, why lie if you have nothing to hide?

why? did they do something criminal? what is the reasoning behind that statement? if there is nothing there, what is it you think you need to find?

What to find? How about The reason that they lied and the extent of the Russian interference. Are you really not getting it or are you just trying to be difficult? Try pretending that it was president Clinton instead of Trump and maybe you'll understand the reaction from the left.

lied about what? , holy crap the make believe today on the board. I'll just say it right now, you are no american.

How many times did Trump and his surrogates say they hadn't met with the Russians? Now how many have been outed? 6, including Trumps son in law? Get real.

 

[Marion Morrison]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

"The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House."

There was definitely some wiretapping going on. Insider leaks to the press, as well.

 

[Slade3200]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

"The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House."

There was definitely some wiretapping going on. Insider leaks to the press, as well.

Yeah the Russian ambassador was tapped. No evidence of Trump being tapped has been presented

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No spin. No smoke and mirrors. No conjecture. Was he wire tapped? If that can't be answered everything else is Conspiracy Theory material of attempting to create links between unrelated incidents.

At this point, it see - the whole wire-tap claim is unsubstantiated and taking on the guise of a conspiracy theory.

From: Analysis | Donald Trump was a conspiracy-theory candidate. Now he’s on the edge of being a conspiracy-theory president.

The problem here, of course, is that what Levin — and Breitbart — use as evidence for these claims are a series of seemingly unconnected events — from FISA court requests to Trump joking about the Russia email hack, to the release of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails in the fall. The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.


The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.


It seems unlikely — given Trump’s past pattern of making baseless claims without proof and then simply insisting he is right and no evidence is needed to prove the point — that any meaningful effort will be made by the Trump administration to connect the dots on this alleged wiretapping conspiracy.​

From the LA Times: Citing no evidence, Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phones during the election

It would be highly unusual for a sitting president to be aware of such [surveillance] requests. By blaming Obama directly, Trump accused the former president of reaching into a federal investigation and signing off on an illegal wiretap, which is a felony.


If federal investigators did monitor Trump’s phones or computers lawfully, a court would have demanded information about potential criminal misconduct or unlawful foreign contacts. Such investigations are closely held and rarely, if ever, shared with the White House.


It is possible Trump has no evidence his phones were tapped and is repeating unfounded reports circulating in conservative media circles. ​

There is a lot of smoke, mirrors and redirection going on here, an attempt I'm sure, to distract from the demands for an investigation into Russian ties with the Trump campaign.

Rather than blowing this up into a full blown conspiracy theory, how about looking at actual evidence?

First question to answer is: is there any hard evidence that Trump Tower was indeed wire tapped? If we can't answer that, the rest is meaningless distraction.

From the Washington Post: Analysis | Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Brietbart article on FISA Requests: June & October. Breitbart based it's article entirely on one source: and article written by Louise Mensch, a former Tory member of the British Parliament and an independent journalist for Heat Street. But no one seems to be able to independently confirm the claim.

The Washington Post for months has sought to confirm this report of a FISA warrant related to the Trump campaign but has been unable to do so. Presumably other U.S. news organizations have tried to do so as well. So one has to take this claim with a huge dose of skepticism. Indeed, the New York Times reported before the election that the FBI “ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts” with the Russian banks.​

According to the WP article:

The White House provided three other sources. Two, a National Review article and a Fox News interview, are simply derivative of the Heat Street article, with no independent confirmation. The third is a New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides. (We recall the president has previously deemed Times reporting on this matter as “fake news.”)​

The article goes on to conclude:

Only two articles, both with British roots, have reported that a FISA court order was granted in October to examine possible activity between two Russian banks and a computer server in the Trump Tower. This claim has not been confirmed by a U.S. news organizations. Moreover, neither article says President Obama requested the order or that it resulted in the tapping of Trump’s phone lines.​

And lastly:

Moreover, the articles do not support the White House’s claim that these were “potentially politically motivated investigations” led by President Obama. The articles all suggest the FISA requests — if they happened — were done by the intelligence agencies and the FBI.​

So, before we have this huge political uproar, and immediate comparisons to Watergate, lets' get at the facts first. Can anyone answer these questions?

1. Was Trump wiretapped? If yes - what evidence? Were bugs found in Trump Tower?

2. Were FISA requests issued? If yes - can the claims be confirmed by more then one source and for what specifically were they for?

Until those are answered - there's nothing but smoke.

Right in your OP it states, "New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides..." But he wasn't wiretapped?

Please resign as Moderator

The Russian officials are tapped, fool.

but not americans. so if they have tape of americans, guess what, they tapped americans. it is fking illegal you stupid fk. look up the law. They are not allowed to listen to americans.

Better yet, how can they say someone didn't talk to the ruskies if they weren't listening to them? see the dilemma?

No, it's not illegal, moron.

Wait, so Trump can order FISA wiretaps of every Democrat politician? Pelosi and Schumer met with Russians, right?

 

[Pop23]

good idea, you shouldnt put money on Obama.. but you can if youre a complete moron and are clueless how, and who facilitates wiretaps.

LMAO Nope. The complete moron and clueless one is you.

Leaks in the WH? Wire tapping in Trump Tower??

Sounds pretty credible to me but then I'm not a biased hack like you are.

Obama holdovers? Rhodes?? Could very well be.

Carry on oh clueless one.

So far, no evidence has been provided to support the wire tapping claim. None. It's untethered from reality.

Sounds much like that Russian rigging election thingy

Depends on what "Russian rigging" thingy you mean...

Did the Russians hack the voting machines? Hell no.
Did Trump actively collude with Russians to throw the election? No evidence thus far, unlikely
Did the Russians attempt to interfere in our election to favor Trump? Plenty of evidence thus far, likely (let's see what the investigation shows).

There is about the same amount of evidence the Russians attempted to interfere as there is Obama ordered the wiretap.

It's all political theatre and narratives and it's past old

....... and the entire reason many in the rust belt decided to do away with the old guard.

Jesus, for months now all we've heard about was the Russian connection from unnamed sources. Then the NYTs, trying to nail Trump, brings wiretapping in, BY AN UNNAMED SOURCE, and all the sudden the sources are loony?


I honestly don't know what actually happened, but what I do know is that our government appears to have been run by children. AND IM NOT TALKING JUST ONE PARTY.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No spin. No smoke and mirrors. No conjecture. Was he wire tapped? If that can't be answered everything else is Conspiracy Theory material of attempting to create links between unrelated incidents.

At this point, it see - the whole wire-tap claim is unsubstantiated and taking on the guise of a conspiracy theory.

From: Analysis | Donald Trump was a conspiracy-theory candidate. Now he’s on the edge of being a conspiracy-theory president.

The problem here, of course, is that what Levin — and Breitbart — use as evidence for these claims are a series of seemingly unconnected events — from FISA court requests to Trump joking about the Russia email hack, to the release of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails in the fall. The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.


The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.


It seems unlikely — given Trump’s past pattern of making baseless claims without proof and then simply insisting he is right and no evidence is needed to prove the point — that any meaningful effort will be made by the Trump administration to connect the dots on this alleged wiretapping conspiracy.​

From the LA Times: Citing no evidence, Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phones during the election

It would be highly unusual for a sitting president to be aware of such [surveillance] requests. By blaming Obama directly, Trump accused the former president of reaching into a federal investigation and signing off on an illegal wiretap, which is a felony.


If federal investigators did monitor Trump’s phones or computers lawfully, a court would have demanded information about potential criminal misconduct or unlawful foreign contacts. Such investigations are closely held and rarely, if ever, shared with the White House.


It is possible Trump has no evidence his phones were tapped and is repeating unfounded reports circulating in conservative media circles. ​

There is a lot of smoke, mirrors and redirection going on here, an attempt I'm sure, to distract from the demands for an investigation into Russian ties with the Trump campaign.

Rather than blowing this up into a full blown conspiracy theory, how about looking at actual evidence?

First question to answer is: is there any hard evidence that Trump Tower was indeed wire tapped? If we can't answer that, the rest is meaningless distraction.

From the Washington Post: Analysis | Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Trump’s ‘evidence’ for Obama wiretap claims relies on sketchy, anonymously sourced reports

Brietbart article on FISA Requests: June & October. Breitbart based it's article entirely on one source: and article written by Louise Mensch, a former Tory member of the British Parliament and an independent journalist for Heat Street. But no one seems to be able to independently confirm the claim.

The Washington Post for months has sought to confirm this report of a FISA warrant related to the Trump campaign but has been unable to do so. Presumably other U.S. news organizations have tried to do so as well. So one has to take this claim with a huge dose of skepticism. Indeed, the New York Times reported before the election that the FBI “ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts” with the Russian banks.​

According to the WP article:

The White House provided three other sources. Two, a National Review article and a Fox News interview, are simply derivative of the Heat Street article, with no independent confirmation. The third is a New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides. (We recall the president has previously deemed Times reporting on this matter as “fake news.”)​

The article goes on to conclude:

Only two articles, both with British roots, have reported that a FISA court order was granted in October to examine possible activity between two Russian banks and a computer server in the Trump Tower. This claim has not been confirmed by a U.S. news organizations. Moreover, neither article says President Obama requested the order or that it resulted in the tapping of Trump’s phone lines.​

And lastly:

Moreover, the articles do not support the White House’s claim that these were “potentially politically motivated investigations” led by President Obama. The articles all suggest the FISA requests — if they happened — were done by the intelligence agencies and the FBI.​

So, before we have this huge political uproar, and immediate comparisons to Watergate, lets' get at the facts first. Can anyone answer these questions?

1. Was Trump wiretapped? If yes - what evidence? Were bugs found in Trump Tower?

2. Were FISA requests issued? If yes - can the claims be confirmed by more then one source and for what specifically were they for?

Until those are answered - there's nothing but smoke.

Right in your OP it states, "New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides..." But he wasn't wiretapped?

Please resign as Moderator

The Russian officials are tapped, fool.

but not americans. so if they have tape of americans, guess what, they tapped americans. it is fking illegal you stupid fk. look up the law. They are not allowed to listen to americans.

Better yet, how can they say someone didn't talk to the ruskies if they weren't listening to them? see the dilemma?

No, it's not illegal, moron.

Wait, so Trump can order FISA wiretaps of every Democrat politician? Pelosi and Schumer met with Russians, right?

You didn't bother to read what was quoted.


The Russians were tapped, dope.

 

[bendog]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

"The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House."

There was definitely some wiretapping going on. Insider leaks to the press, as well.

Does make you wonder why these Trump folks kept talking to the Ruskies.

 

[bendog]

Right in your OP it states, "New York Times report that intelligence agencies “are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a probe of possible links between Russian officials and Trump campaign aides..." But he wasn't wiretapped?

Please resign as Moderator

The Russian officials are tapped, fool.

but not americans. so if they have tape of americans, guess what, they tapped americans. it is fking illegal you stupid fk. look up the law. They are not allowed to listen to americans.

Better yet, how can they say someone didn't talk to the ruskies if they weren't listening to them? see the dilemma?

No, it's not illegal, moron.

Wait, so Trump can order FISA wiretaps of every Democrat politician? Pelosi and Schumer met with Russians, right?

You didn't bother to read what was quoted.


The Russians were tapped, dope.

Yeah initially for sure. But I'll be surprised if in the end we don't learn that listening to the Ruskies didn't lead to FISA warrants at least on Mannafort. And that is what really mystifies me about the Trump Campaign. I mean I couldn't understand why Hillary didn't erect a Chinese wall between her and the Foundation when she became SoS. What'd they get in the end? More millions? Like they kept the money? Not. Like Slick needed the Foundation for nice sex slave trips, Not.

Why would anyone running for Potus let his daughter and SiL vaction with Putin's punch? Like they didn't know Manafort made millions off of Putin and was in biz with a guy most likely in Russian intel?

WTF is wrong with these people? Where do they come from? I'm sorry Biden's kid croked but JFC.

 

[Ame®icano]

Sounds much like that Russian rigging election thingy

Depends on what "Russian rigging" thingy you mean...

Did the Russians hack the voting machines? Hell no.
Did Trump actively collude with Russians to throw the election? No evidence thus far, unlikely
Did the Russians attempt to interfere in our election to favor Trump? Plenty of evidence thus far, likely (let's see what the investigation shows).

There is about the same amount of evidence the Russians attempted to interfere as there is Obama ordered the wiretap.

It's all political theatre and narratives and it's past old

All the US Intelligence agencies are in agreement that the Russians attempted to interfere. They've provided as much evidence as can be provided without declassifying. Not only US Intelligence, but that of other countries in Europe who have been targeted by the Russians.

Compare that to nothing whatsoever supporting Trumps claim.

I'm not going to buy that there is some sort of massive conspiracy at work cooping the Intelligence community, the past adminstration, judiciary and the media attempting to topple Trump. That's a the product of a delusional and paranoid mind.

Talking about the "evidence" and providing the same is not the same thing.

Everyone is targeted by Russians, and mainly by us. It's what they do. It's what we do. Complaining about it, as it if happened first time is ridiculous.

Again, getting DNC "hacked" or rather leaked, and getting Podesta's emails doesn't mean that election was hacked. It just means that Dems are buthurt for losing and they need someone to blame.

Not everyone has the Russians attempting to interfere in their elections - refusing to take it seriously is ludicrous. It's a serious issue and you're just lobbing it off as "butthurt".

That's unbelievable.

Again, DNC hacks, or leaks and Podesta fiasco are not election hacks.

If you call that interfering, that has been happening all the time, from both sides.

It became relevant now, only because leftists lost the campaign they thought they stole fair and square.

Hence, they're buthurt and need someone to blame, therefore "Russians".

 

[Ame®icano]

Golly bejesus! 340 posts and still no facts. Y'all liberians sho do say a lot of nothin!

That's what I said in the OP. No facts supporting Trumps claims of being wiretapped.

Glad you noticed that as well.

Where did the leaks came from?

 

[The Original Tree]

I am now thinking the DNC, Obama, and Clinton invented The Russian Hacking Story as a False Pretense to get Wire Taps approved!

No one has seen the DNC server. No one has seen one shred of evidence alleged to be on that server.

It needs subpoenaed!

 

[Ame®icano]

...

Only question is why would they favor Trump is they could get everything they wanted by just paying off Hillary?

Maybe because they can't "pay off Hillary" - that's solely your opinion of her there. She's always been a hardliner towards Moscow, they know that - they dealt with her while she was SoS. Trump is an unknown politically, but already has friendly ties to them, and has indicated a desire to loosen sanctions. There is no way Clinton would.

Hillary hardliner with Moscow? Yeah, in words only, until they offer cash...

If she's as corrupt as you say - show me the indictments.

There are none (yet). All investigations were stonewalled by previous admin, and that will, I hope, change pretty soon.

GOOD ONE ! order an investigation then stonewall the findings..


how damn dumb are you anyway?

Exactly, claim there is an investigation, than do nothing about it.

The only purpose of those investigations are to erase every possible lose end that may cause the headache later.

How retarded you have to be not to see the obvious?

 

[The Original Tree]

A pissed off Bernie Sanders supporter according to Julian Assange.

Golly bejesus! 340 posts and still no facts. Y'all liberians sho do say a lot of nothin!

That's what I said in the OP. No facts supporting Trumps claims of being wiretapped.

Glad you noticed that as well.

Where did the leaks came from?

 

[radical right]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

"The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House."

There was definitely some wiretapping going on. Insider leaks to the press, as well.

There is always wiretapping of FOREIGN nationals within the USA. You got your panties in a twist because those foreign nationals were talking with people in the Trump campaign, and were thus caught in the Russian election meddling investigation.

 

[radical right]

Wait, so Trump can order FISA wiretaps of every Democrat politician? Pelosi and Schumer met with Russians, right?

Sure he can, but it would be HIGHLY illegal. Trump would have to get a FISA warrant first, and they aren't issued where the primary is an american.

 

[radical right]

Jesus, for months now all we've heard about was the Russian connection from unnamed sources. Then the NYTs, trying to nail Trump, brings wiretapping in, BY AN UNNAMED SOURCE, and all the sudden the sources are loony?
.

Actually its Mark Levin and Brietbarts read that's looney. They took FISA warrants of foreign intelligence sources, and changed it to wiretaps of americans.

 

[The Original Tree]

Hey numb nuts... The allegations made by The DNC existed for a long time and The Obama Administration had every opportunity to investigate it thoroughly.

But you don't Investigate a hoax that you yourself are involved in and are playing a part in.

Why didn't Obama subpoena The DNC server?

Why did Obama give Hillary Clinton all that time to Bleach Bit and delete 30,000 emails?

Where is he now to comment on this assault on his character and legacy?

Hillary Clinton btw got $145 Million from the Russians and Obama got $64 Million.

$209 Million for sweet deals like Uranium One, Russian Air Bases in Syria, handing over Crimea to Putin and making it possible for Iran not only to buy OUR Uranium and hordes of weapons from Russia, but be able to afford it!

 

[radical right]

Yeah initially for sure. But I'll be surprised if in the end we don't learn that listening to the Ruskies didn't lead to FISA warrants at least on Mannafort. .

It was the FBI and treasury investigating Mannafort, so they needed a warrant from a regular judge.