We continue to see some very positive trends in America

There are some home schooled children who do receive a good education. Their parents are capable and willing to teach their kids what is needed to go on to college and better things. These are the ones with the high SAT scores. The majority don't go on to college, so they aren't required to ever even see the SAT test. These are the ones that suffer from a lack of education.
How sad that you feel it is acceptable to simply make stuff up. You do it in nearly every post. Here are the indisputable facts...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics. Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”

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Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

Again, those numbers are taken from the ones who actually bother to take the voluntary tests. If a home school parent isn't capable or willing to educate their children properly, they certainly aren't going to bother have their child take a test that isn't required. You are looking at the small percentage who actually bother to take the extra steps, and trying to say it applies to all of them. If they don't bother to take all those un-required tests, they don't exist as far as your link is concerned.
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.



You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
 
There are some home schooled children who do receive a good education. Their parents are capable and willing to teach their kids what is needed to go on to college and better things. These are the ones with the high SAT scores. The majority don't go on to college, so they aren't required to ever even see the SAT test. These are the ones that suffer from a lack of education.
How sad that you feel it is acceptable to simply make stuff up. You do it in nearly every post. Here are the indisputable facts...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics. Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”

Excerpt From: Wayne Allyn Root. “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.” Regnery Publishing, 2013-03-26. iBooks. This material may be protected by copyright.

Check out this book on the iBooks Store: https://itun.es/us/ihu4J.l

Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

Again, those numbers are taken from the ones who actually bother to take the voluntary tests. If a home school parent isn't capable or willing to educate their children properly, they certainly aren't going to bother have their child take a test that isn't required. You are looking at the small percentage who actually bother to take the extra steps, and trying to say it applies to all of them. If they don't bother to take all those un-required tests, they don't exist as far as your link is concerned.
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) .....

???????

The SAT and ACT " have nothing to do with college"?
 
How sad that you feel it is acceptable to simply make stuff up. You do it in nearly every post. Here are the indisputable facts...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics. Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”

Excerpt From: Wayne Allyn Root. “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.” Regnery Publishing, 2013-03-26. iBooks. This material may be protected by copyright.

Check out this book on the iBooks Store: https://itun.es/us/ihu4J.l

Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

Again, those numbers are taken from the ones who actually bother to take the voluntary tests. If a home school parent isn't capable or willing to educate their children properly, they certainly aren't going to bother have their child take a test that isn't required. You are looking at the small percentage who actually bother to take the extra steps, and trying to say it applies to all of them. If they don't bother to take all those un-required tests, they don't exist as far as your link is concerned.
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.
You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
And of course Texas makes up the entire United States. There aren't 49 more states. Idiot.

In my state - homeschooled students must follow the entire public school curriculum. Tests and all. At the end of the day, you have no idea what you're talking about and so you just make stuff up. You can't even think beyond your own street. There is a great big world out there chief. Texas is not the center of the universe.
 
How sad that you feel it is acceptable to simply make stuff up. You do it in nearly every post. Here are the indisputable facts...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics. Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”

Excerpt From: Wayne Allyn Root. “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.” Regnery Publishing, 2013-03-26. iBooks. This material may be protected by copyright.

Check out this book on the iBooks Store: https://itun.es/us/ihu4J.l

Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

Again, those numbers are taken from the ones who actually bother to take the voluntary tests. If a home school parent isn't capable or willing to educate their children properly, they certainly aren't going to bother have their child take a test that isn't required. You are looking at the small percentage who actually bother to take the extra steps, and trying to say it applies to all of them. If they don't bother to take all those un-required tests, they don't exist as far as your link is concerned.
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) .....

???????

The SAT and ACT " have nothing to do with college"?
No....tests other than the SAT and ACT. :eusa_doh:
 
How sad that you feel it is acceptable to simply make stuff up. You do it in nearly every post. Here are the indisputable facts...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics. Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”

Excerpt From: Wayne Allyn Root. “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.” Regnery Publishing, 2013-03-26. iBooks. This material may be protected by copyright.

Check out this book on the iBooks Store: https://itun.es/us/ihu4J.l

Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

Again, those numbers are taken from the ones who actually bother to take the voluntary tests. If a home school parent isn't capable or willing to educate their children properly, they certainly aren't going to bother have their child take a test that isn't required. You are looking at the small percentage who actually bother to take the extra steps, and trying to say it applies to all of them. If they don't bother to take all those un-required tests, they don't exist as far as your link is concerned.
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.



You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.

So?
 
Again, those numbers are taken from the ones who actually bother to take the voluntary tests. If a home school parent isn't capable or willing to educate their children properly, they certainly aren't going to bother have their child take a test that isn't required. You are looking at the small percentage who actually bother to take the extra steps, and trying to say it applies to all of them. If they don't bother to take all those un-required tests, they don't exist as far as your link is concerned.
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.
You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
And of course Texas makes up the entire United States. There aren't 49 more states. Idiot.

In my state - homeschooled students must follow the entire public school curriculum. Tests and all. At the end of the day, you have no idea what you're talking about and so you just make stuff up. You can't even think beyond your own street. There is a great big world out there chief. Texas is not the center of the universe.

Most states don't require any independent testing.
Homeschooling Laws by State – Education

I never said that home schooling couldn't provide an adequate education. Only that we, as a nation, are doing a terrible disservice to the uneducated home schooled children that are ignored by so many states, and left to fend for themselves.
 
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.
You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
And of course Texas makes up the entire United States. There aren't 49 more states. Idiot.

In my state - homeschooled students must follow the entire public school curriculum. Tests and all. At the end of the day, you have no idea what you're talking about and so you just make stuff up. You can't even think beyond your own street. There is a great big world out there chief. Texas is not the center of the universe.

Most states don't require any independent testing.
Homeschooling Laws by State – Education

I never said that home schooling couldn't provide an adequate education. Only that we, as a nation, are doing a terrible disservice to the uneducated home schooled children that are ignored by so many states, and left to fend for themselves.

You do realize that by and large the public education system in this country is a disaster, right?
 
Again...you continue to make stuff up. Throwing aside the facts about the SAT's for a moment - homeschooled students score much higher (twice as high in fact) on exams. And they are more likely to attend college than public school students.

At this point, you just look silly trying to defend the stuff you made up when we have actual data that proves you're wrong. Just admit you made everything up and move along.

Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.
You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
And of course Texas makes up the entire United States. There aren't 49 more states. Idiot.

In my state - homeschooled students must follow the entire public school curriculum. Tests and all. At the end of the day, you have no idea what you're talking about and so you just make stuff up. You can't even think beyond your own street. There is a great big world out there chief. Texas is not the center of the universe.

Most states don't require any independent testing.
Homeschooling Laws by State – Education

I never said that home schooling couldn't provide an adequate education. Only that we, as a nation, are doing a terrible disservice to the uneducated home schooled children that are ignored by so many states, and left to fend for themselves.




What "disservice"?
 
Again. You are making your judgement on the results of test that are only taken by the ones that are obviously making an effort to go on to college. Those tests are not required. Only a percentage of home schooled children ever even see them.
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.
You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
And of course Texas makes up the entire United States. There aren't 49 more states. Idiot.

In my state - homeschooled students must follow the entire public school curriculum. Tests and all. At the end of the day, you have no idea what you're talking about and so you just make stuff up. You can't even think beyond your own street. There is a great big world out there chief. Texas is not the center of the universe.

Most states don't require any independent testing.
Homeschooling Laws by State – Education

I never said that home schooling couldn't provide an adequate education. Only that we, as a nation, are doing a terrible disservice to the uneducated home schooled children that are ignored by so many states, and left to fend for themselves.




What "disservice"?

Not making any effort to see that they are provided an adequate education is a great disservice. Now you say something about public schools being bad. Yes there are problems with public schools, and much disagreement about how to fix that, but we are making an effort, and not just washing our hands of the obligation we have to see that our children are given the needed tools to be productive members of society.
 
Again...you lie. Homeschooled children have to take exams that have nothing to do with college (SAT and ACT) and they sore higher. In addition, homeschooled students are more likely to attend college than public school students. Which means statistically - a higher percentage of homeschooled students "see" the SAT's than do public students.
You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
And of course Texas makes up the entire United States. There aren't 49 more states. Idiot.

In my state - homeschooled students must follow the entire public school curriculum. Tests and all. At the end of the day, you have no idea what you're talking about and so you just make stuff up. You can't even think beyond your own street. There is a great big world out there chief. Texas is not the center of the universe.

Most states don't require any independent testing.
Homeschooling Laws by State – Education

I never said that home schooling couldn't provide an adequate education. Only that we, as a nation, are doing a terrible disservice to the uneducated home schooled children that are ignored by so many states, and left to fend for themselves.




What "disservice"?

Not making any effort to see that they are provided an adequate education is a great disservice. Now you say something about public schools being bad. Yes there are problems with public schools, and much disagreement about how to fix that, but we are making an effort, and not just washing our hands of the obligation we have to see that our children are given the needed tools to be productive members of society.


Who told you parents who homeschool aren't making an effort, or giving the tools? Seems to me they are giving a lot of effort.
 
What "disservice"?
You have to remember Unkotare, in BULLDOG's mind it is a "disservice" if he can't force children into progressive indoctrination. A "disservice" to his socialist desires. How can he mooch off of these future producers if he doesn't indoctrinate them first?
 
You really don't know what you are talking about.
Texas Homeschool Laws » Texas Unschoolers

There are only three requirements to homeschool in Texas:


  • The instruction must be bona fide (i.e., not a sham).
  • The curriculum must be in visual form (e.g., books, workbooks, video monitor).
  • The curriculum must include the five basic subjects of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.
There are no reporting agencies and no testing requirements for homeschoolers. The state of Texas does not regulate homeschoolers once they have been removed from the public school system. If you would like to read more about how unschoolers meet these legal requirements in Texas, please visit our blog category Meeting Legal Requirements.
And of course Texas makes up the entire United States. There aren't 49 more states. Idiot.

In my state - homeschooled students must follow the entire public school curriculum. Tests and all. At the end of the day, you have no idea what you're talking about and so you just make stuff up. You can't even think beyond your own street. There is a great big world out there chief. Texas is not the center of the universe.

Most states don't require any independent testing.
Homeschooling Laws by State – Education

I never said that home schooling couldn't provide an adequate education. Only that we, as a nation, are doing a terrible disservice to the uneducated home schooled children that are ignored by so many states, and left to fend for themselves.




What "disservice"?

Not making any effort to see that they are provided an adequate education is a great disservice. Now you say something about public schools being bad. Yes there are problems with public schools, and much disagreement about how to fix that, but we are making an effort, and not just washing our hands of the obligation we have to see that our children are given the needed tools to be productive members of society.


Who told you parents who homeschool aren't making an effort, or giving the tools? Seems to me they are giving a lot of effort.

I've seen it. No, not all, but you know as well as I that all parents aren't capable of educating their children properly. Some few states do have periodic testing, and monitoring of home schooled children, and that can be a viable education. Those are the ones you see with the high SAT scores. But some don't, and nobody checks or even cares to see if the kids are being taught anything. They don't have high test scores because they are never given any kind of test to evaluate what, if anything, they have learned. That is a heart rending tragedy.
 
What "disservice"?
You have to remember Unkotare, in BULLDOG's mind it is a "disservice" if he can't force children into progressive indoctrination. A "disservice" to his socialist desires. How can he mooch off of these future producers if he doesn't indoctrinate them first?

It would be nice if they knew how to count change and do basic arithmetic. Being able to read and write a little more than their own name would be a good thing too. I won't get into the complexities of geometry or physics, or any of the other harder subjects in education, because lots of those parents couldn't understand it themselves. Much less be able to teach it.
 
Not making any effort to see that they are provided an adequate education is a great disservice. Now you say something about public schools being bad. Yes there are problems with public schools, and much disagreement about how to fix that, but we are making an effort, and not just washing our hands of the obligation we have to see that our children are given the needed tools to be productive members of society.
That's a bizarre comment coming from a progressive considering very few progressives are actually "productive members of society". Bernie Sanders never held a job until he was in his 40's and even then it was a cush government job. And now the left wants to make him president.

I have an idea BULLDOG. I know it is a bit radical - but just hear me out on this for a moment. What if.....and I'm just brainstorming here...but what if you and all of the other progressive busy-body little dictator wannabes minded your own fucking business and allowed people you don't even know to raise their own children? What if you didn't feel such a strong urge to control other people's lives? What if you just let liberty run its natural course instead of attempting to pre-plan how the world will rotate on its axis? Is liberty seriously that frightening to you? Are you that terrified at the thought of not being able to mooch off of others?
 
What "disservice"?
You have to remember Unkotare, in BULLDOG's mind it is a "disservice" if he can't force children into progressive indoctrination. A "disservice" to his socialist desires. How can he mooch off of these future producers if he doesn't indoctrinate them first?

It would be nice if they knew how to count change and do basic arithmetic. Being able to read and write a little more than their own name would be a good thing too. I won't get into the complexities of geometry or physics, or any of the other harder subjects in education, because lots of those parents couldn't understand it themselves. Much less be able to teach it.
This is like me crying that another high school's football team doesn't lift enough weights or practice enough. That just just ensures my victory. Why the fuck would I cry about that?

Why would you complain about illiterate people in a very competitive job market? That just ensures that you and your children will be in demand! It ensures you will have jobs and earn a good living. This alone is proof of how irrational your position is.
 
Not making any effort to see that they are provided an adequate education is a great disservice. Now you say something about public schools being bad. Yes there are problems with public schools, and much disagreement about how to fix that, but we are making an effort, and not just washing our hands of the obligation we have to see that our children are given the needed tools to be productive members of society.
That's a bizarre comment coming from a progressive considering very few progressives are actually "productive members of society". Bernie Sanders never held a job until he was in his 40's and even then it was a cush government job. And now the left wants to make him president.

I have an idea BULLDOG. I know it is a bit radical - but just hear me out on this for a moment. What if.....and I'm just brainstorming here...but what if you and all of the other progressive busy-body little dictator wannabes minded your own fucking business and allowed people you don't even know to raise their own children? What if you didn't feel such a strong urge to control other people's lives? What if you just let liberty run its natural course instead of attempting to pre-plan how the world will rotate on its axis? Is liberty seriously that frightening to you? Are you that terrified at the thought of not being able to mooch off of others?

So now you think Bernie Sanders isn't a productive member of society? That's just dumb.
Yes, I'm aware that the right is anti education. I can't understand how, but you think our country can maintain it's standing in the world with an uneducated future generation that can't compete with countries that value education.
 
So now you think Bernie Sanders isn't a productive member of society? That's just dumb.
So you think never holding a job until one is in their 40's is "being a productive member of society"?!? Wow. That could only come from a progressive living in their parents basement.
 
What "disservice"?
You have to remember Unkotare, in BULLDOG's mind it is a "disservice" if he can't force children into progressive indoctrination. A "disservice" to his socialist desires. How can he mooch off of these future producers if he doesn't indoctrinate them first?

It would be nice if they knew how to count change and do basic arithmetic. Being able to read and write a little more than their own name would be a good thing too. I won't get into the complexities of geometry or physics, or any of the other harder subjects in education, because lots of those parents couldn't understand it themselves. Much less be able to teach it.
This is like me crying that another high school's football team doesn't lift enough weights or practice enough. That just just ensures my victory. Why the fuck would I cry about that?

Why would you complain about illiterate people in a very competitive job market? That just ensures that you and your children will be in demand! It ensures you will have jobs and earn a good living. This alone is proof of how irrational your position is.

Realizing that an educated population will be better for everybody is far from irrational. I'm not talking about weight lifting for football players. Odd that you would think that I was.
 
So now you think Bernie Sanders isn't a productive member of society? That's just dumb.
So you think never holding a job until one is in their 40's is "being a productive member of society"?!? Wow. That could only come from a progressive living in their parents basement.

You've gone off into lala land now. Have a nice uneducated day.
 
Not making any effort to see that they are provided an adequate education is a great disservice. Now you say something about public schools being bad. Yes there are problems with public schools, and much disagreement about how to fix that, but we are making an effort, and not just washing our hands of the obligation we have to see that our children are given the needed tools to be productive members of society.
That's a bizarre comment coming from a progressive considering very few progressives are actually "productive members of society". Bernie Sanders never held a job until he was in his 40's and even then it was a cush government job. And now the left wants to make him president.

I have an idea BULLDOG. I know it is a bit radical - but just hear me out on this for a moment. What if.....and I'm just brainstorming here...but what if you and all of the other progressive busy-body little dictator wannabes minded your own fucking business and allowed people you don't even know to raise their own children? What if you didn't feel such a strong urge to control other people's lives? What if you just let liberty run its natural course instead of attempting to pre-plan how the world will rotate on its axis? Is liberty seriously that frightening to you? Are you that terrified at the thought of not being able to mooch off of others?

So now you think Bernie Sanders isn't a productive member of society? That's just dumb.
Yes, I'm aware that the right is anti education. I can't understand how, but you think our country can maintain it's standing in the world with an uneducated future generation that can't compete with countries that value education.
It's not "anti-education" to understand that the U.S. was built on liberty. If education is sooooooo important to you - then make it a priority with your children. Don't worry about what priority your neighbors make it with their children.
 

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