We have to keep this in our minds about the right.

[Auld Phart]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

the choo choo is jumping the rail on her one track mind

 

[WaitingFor2020]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

 

[WaitingFor2020]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

See post no. 102

 

[boedicca]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

I never claimed to be living in Socialism. I just recognize that a form of Totalitarian-Authoritarianism (by any name) is the wet dream you and your fellow Progs bathe in nightly.

We're more likely to end up in a form of Fascist Serfdom.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

the choo choo is jumping the rail on her one track mind

He is quoting Karl Marx, dumbass. You really think you live in a Marxist society here in the U.S? You fall neatly into the O/Ps point.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

See post no. 102

Oh. You think you own your home? Property? Business?

Stop paying taxes, and find out who owns them.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

I never claimed to be living in Socialism. I just recognize that a form of Totalitarian-Authoritarianism (by any name) is the wet dream you and your fellow Progs bathe in nightly.

We're more likely to end up in a form of Fascist Serfdom.

Oh, god more tossing out of terms in which you don't have the faintest clue. None. Zero.

 

[boedicca]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

I never claimed to be living in Socialism. I just recognize that a form of Totalitarian-Authoritarianism (by any name) is the wet dream you and your fellow Progs bathe in nightly.

We're more likely to end up in a form of Fascist Serfdom.

Oh, god more tossing out of terms in which you don't have the faintest clue. None. Zero.

^^^ Projecting his own inadequacies in lieu of making a cogent comment ^^^

 

[WaitingFor2020]

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

See post no. 102

Oh. You think you own your home? Property? Business?

Stop paying taxes, and find out who owns them.

More histrionics. You buttheads have it better than anyone ever has on the planet. You still do. And yet you whine. I suggest you spend some time in a socialist country and let us know your findings instead of armchair bullshit.

 

[Auld Phart]

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

See post no. 102

Oh. You think you own your home? Property? Business?

Stop paying taxes, and find out who owns them.

More histrionics. You buttheads have it better than anyone ever has on the planet. You still do. And yet you whine. I suggest you spend some time in a socialist country and let us know your findings instead of armchair bullshit.

I have.

and then there's 20 years military, which everyone on the Left considers socialist.

 

[Londoner]

One thing I hope people will remember is the fact that who Trump is and what Trump is is what they right wants for this country, that can not be forgotten. If that doesn't move you simply look at Paul Ryans Budget proposals over the years and it will reiterate the same thing. What the right wants for us is ugly. Even though business is on a tare in this country , profits are at a all time high and the percentage of gross that is profit are at a all time high and the fact that only one small group in this country has gained anything from this and the gains are massive in the last 35 year. Add in the fact that every dime of the new wealth of the richest country in the world has gone only to the top. No one else. Along with the highest corporate profits in history, Paul Ryan wants to transfer more to corporations and the rich, the money will all come from programs for the needy ,the old and the sick and also from Education. Thats what the right wants for this country. Like I said it's ugly.
There has never been a time in my life time (71 years) that so many have voted against their best interest.

Therein lies the problem with the country. Voting for personal interests, i.e. what can I get for nothing, and not for Constitutional principles.

The Rightwing treats the Constitution not as a sacred document but as a symbolic trope in their ideology of revanchism.

Revanchism is a strategy used by the party bosses (and spread by talk radio) where they tell uneducated or uninformed voters that their nation has been stolen by outsiders.

When a Republican is in the White House, you never see the call for constitutional fidelity. For instance, talk radio never talked about Bush 43's anti-constitutional wire tapping program, as it was initially set-up before Bush got caught and was forced to re-launch the program with greater CONSTITUTIONAL protections for American citizens.

In fact, Defcon4, I bet you cannot list the actual areas where both Reagan and Bush 43 violated the Constitution. The reason you can't list these things is because your information sources only mention The Constitution when they are criticizing a democratic administration.

Hitler told uninformed "homelanders" that mother Germany had been infiltrated by people who didn't respect it's borders, language, culture, tradition, and laws.

This is how dangerous political movements seize power, by channeling the resentment of aggrieved citizens at a scapegoat, which is typically the political opposition.

McCarthyism was a form of this. It was based on convincing the rightwing voter that the left was in bed with the Soviet Union.

Turn off talk radio and go to a library. Study all the Constitutional violations throughout history. Stop carrying the water for a political party, and respect the founding document this nation.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

See post no. 102

Oh. You think you own your home? Property? Business?

Stop paying taxes, and find out who owns them.

More histrionics. You buttheads have it better than anyone ever has on the planet.

Indeed.

And yet you whine.

What can I say? I was raised to hate Communism (a catch-all term for all things Marxist). Their murder rate absolutely dwarfs Hitler's.

I suggest you spend some time in a socialist country and let us know your findings instead of armchair bullshit.

Thanks, but there are plenty of toilets here.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Hitler told uninformed "homelanders" that mother Germany had been infiltrated by people who didn't respect it's borders, language, culture, tradition, and laws.

In Germany's case it wasn't true. German Jews were citizens.

In the case of the United States, it's absolutely true.

McCarthyism was a form of this. It was based on convincing the rightwing voter that the left was in bed with the Soviet Union.

McCarthy was right. A tad indelicate perhaps, but essentially correct.

 

[bripat9643]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

Even 2nd graders know what socialism is. That's where government runs everything. Your belief that people couldn't possible oppose if it they understood it is idiotic. To understand why no sane person should want to adopt socialism, simply go the DMV and get your license renewed.

 

[bripat9643]

Satisfying envy is not the best interest of anybody. It will feed more envy, more confiscatory taxes and more restrictions on freedom.

It's not as simple as envy. It's a matter of how well our economy works. Consumer spending drives our economy. By eroding the spending power of the majority by segregating wealth among the minority, consumer spending shrinks and so does our economy.

You mean looting the wealthy is what makes the economy grow?

Really?

You mean like in all the years before 81 and the trickle down lie that buried us. Ya we took away all the ability to get wealthy from the investors and builders in this country, That my friend is just stupid.

Some douche bag on your side of the issue labeled free enterprise "trickle down." No economist ever used the term.

You seem to be saying that looting the wealthy makes the economy grow. We know that's what you want to say, but you won't say it outright because you are afraid of being laughed out of the forum.

No economist, but Reagan's administration promoted it.

What they promoted is what economists call "free enterprise." I realize that you find that appalling.

 

[bripat9643]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

Only a moron would claim that government doesn't control business in this country.

 

[bripat9643]

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

In other words, I will reach into your pocket and take your hard-earned cash, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to this scumbag over here who produces nothing beyond urine and feces.

That's the gist of it.

Why don't you take something completely out of context and then go drama queen for us?

Out of context? Are you dyslexic or crosseyed?

See post no. 102

Oh. You think you own your home? Property? Business?

Stop paying taxes, and find out who owns them.

More histrionics. You buttheads have it better than anyone ever has on the planet. You still do. And yet you whine. I suggest you spend some time in a socialist country and let us know your findings instead of armchair bullshit.

Wrong, actually. The average income was $5000 higher 10 years ago.

 

[defcon4]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

You need to read further. In socialism people still own houses and very small businesses, some agricultural land. It is the transitional state toward communism. Apparently your handlers did not go that far yet with your indoctrination.

 

[Londoner]

Hitler told uninformed "homelanders" that mother Germany had been infiltrated by people who didn't respect it's borders, language, culture, tradition, and laws.

In Germany's case it wasn't true. German Jews were citizens.

Of course.

But American Liberals are also citizens, yet they are treated as anti-American "outsiders" who don't have a right to power, even when that power is legally and constitutionally certified through an election. Obama is not seen as legitimate by many in your party. The whole Birther Movement, in so far as it was/is used as a tool to obstruct him, actually shreds the Constitutional Rights of those who voted for him.

But here is my point. Liberals in congress, hollywood and the news media are not seen as Real Americans. They are seen as anti-American or un-American. This means you don't have to share power with them, and it's why you want a one-party Republican or rightwing state.

Hitler and the US-Republican Party believe/believed that there was/is one true Germany/USA. This kind of thinking is at home in both religious and Fascists systems. These system hold that there is one fixed set of values that every human must live by. There is no such thing as individual choice or a plurality of visions to be respected by a minimalist state - a state not based on the imposition of values but a sphere of non-interference so that each individual can choose and act upon their own values. For instance, I may love this nation for the New Deal, Roe v Wade and the Civil Rights Act, but you might love it for the Iraq War and Ronald Reagan. In your world, my America doesn't exist. To you, I am an outsider. Calling me an outsider or an anti-American makes it easy for you to obstruct the candidates I send to Washington therefore denying my Constitutionally Protected right to vote).

Since, as you claim, we Liberals are anti-Americans who are bent on destroying your country, you don't have to allow the president we voted for the right to pick a Supreme Court nominee because he's not a Real American, nor are his voters. This is a very old strategy. When tyrannical movements take power, they start by saying that only people in their movement have a right to exercise power. Everyone else, they tell us, is not a Real Citizen. [This means that when Reagan or Bush violate the Constitution, it is ignored or never reported]

It all starts with revanchism - the belief that there is one true set of citizens whose nation has been stolen by people who don't share their values, the one true set of values. FYI: this is a common political technique used by despotic movements to avoid having to submit policy disputes to public discussion. The goal is to de-legitimize the other side before they open their mouth, and to obstruct them to death if their politicians sneak by your gerrymander.

Hitler singled out the Jews because they were different than traditional Germans, just as Liberals are different than traditional conservatives. The fact that we "outsiders" are citizens is beside the point. We've stolen your country and we're destroying it. We must be stopped by any means possible.

[Again, this is what despotic regimes do. They refuse to share power with people outside their movement, who they claim are not real citizens of the home nation, even if they have the legal status of citizens.]

When it comes to Legal Citizens, there are not Real Americans vs Anti-Americans. There are merely policy differences, and they are settled through the Democratic machinery of electing representatives. By calling liberal voters and politicians un-American, you are merely laying the foundation to obstruct their Constitutional rights to exercise power and share in the shaping of this nation.

 

[defcon4]

The Rightwing treats the Constitution not as a sacred document but as a symbolic trope in their ideology of revanchism.

Turn off talk radio and go to a library. Study all the Constitutional violations throughout history. Stop carrying the water for a political party, and respect the founding document this nation.

Since you have no idea if I am listening to talk radio or not your advice in that regard is moot. However, I disagree with your umbrella statement about the Constitution being treated as a trope for revanchism.

The country is being overrun by illegals, visa overstay and preferentially treated groups since the 1965 immigration Act and those immigrants do not want to assimilate and have no respect for our founding documents. You call the efforts in reestablishing that respect revanchism.

The Constitution is being bastardized by legislating from the bench. Since I believe that there is only one political force divided to two major groups as Democrat and Republican, I have no quarrel about Republican presidents violating our freedom. The two major "parties," the political aristocracy, are putting out a show for the plebs to consume while they take the country in a direction what will not resemble to the original intent of the founders.

As for going to the library, it is a good advice and I wish the left would encourage its uninformed masses to do it diligently. Advising the right to do it is for the sole purpose of discrediting the right by insinuating their unfamiliarity of the subject. It is important to read the Federalist Papers when studying the Constitution to understand its very the foundation.