We KNEW it would happen sooner or later.. Vegas victim suing

^^^ If the man was helped getting his luggage up to his room, how could it go unnoticed how much he had with him and how heavy each piece was?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
 
^^^ If the man was helped getting his luggage up to his room, how could it go unnoticed how much he had with him and how heavy each piece was?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
Its a hotel...
People carry all kinds of stuff up to hotel rooms. Its vegas... They even shoot porn in hotels. Wonder how much that equipment weighs.
Again, its a HOTEL.
 
On stays less than a week I usually put the "Do Not Disturb" hanger on my door so room service doesn't have to mess with anything while I'm staying there. I don't need new sheets and toiletries everyday so why should I put the staff out to change them unnecessarily?

I have no doubt that none of the hotel staffers were aware of what he was setting up in there. (Unless they find some dead bodies in his suite anyway.)

As for the other, yeah sorry, hotels do not keep tabs of folks bringing in luggage; it's expected. I oft buy crap while on vacation and come back with tons of bags from my shopping excursions, I've also had to buy extra suitcases to haul that loot home - and had the bellboy bring the new bags up to my room. No one has ever thought anything of it because it happens so often.
 
Bags go in and out ALL day at hotels. Do you understand what they are?
Should a hotel with 1000 guests keep tabs on everyone? People can also request not have their room clean. I always do when i stay more than a night somewhere.
I fail to see how that makes the culpable.

Okay, a disheveled man comes in with 10 suitcases, that should make someone suspicious.
 
So you can't tell me how a legal accessory made a legal rifle illegal?

It should be easy for you if your brain is half the size of your mouth
You already know, but just want to make a fool out of yourself trying to rationalize it. YAWN!

No I don't know how a LEGAL accessory makes a LEGAL rifle illegal.

Explain it. You're the expert so present your case.
If you add oxicontin to baby formula, you've just made an illegal product from two legal products. Now you know.

oxycontin is a scheduled drug. nitrogen based garden fertilizers are legal too------car bombs are not

The second you make a bomb that bomb is illegal. So you are placing an illegal device in a legal car.

The bump stock is legal the gun is legal the two together are not illegal

Now I am doing this to make a point you people never seem to understand.

It's not the gun
It's not the bump stock
It's not the car
it's not the fertilizer It is the ACTION of the person that matters

The objects discussed are irrelevant to the intention and action of the person wielding them

you think that you made a contribution to this discussion
by farting out details EVERYONE KNOWS? -------as to possession of a gun----in my town that is criminal----as to
the bump stock on its own-----no one cares------as to the
fertilizer----you are also a bit wrong------purchase of large
amounts of nitrogen based fertilizer is being monitored in my town -------"irrelevant" is really the wrong word. ---"red flag" is a more apt term
 
^^^ How could the guy's extra "luggage" not be noticed while being at the hotel? It was brought in when he first showed up and was given a key to the room he did his shooting from. How many days had he been there so far before the shooting took place? How could the cleaning staff not pick up on anything where his staying there was concerned?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

You do realize that if you put up the "Do not disturb" sign, they won't!
 
So you can't tell me how a legal accessory made a legal rifle illegal?

It should be easy for you if your brain is half the size of your mouth
You already know, but just want to make a fool out of yourself trying to rationalize it. YAWN!

No I don't know how a LEGAL accessory makes a LEGAL rifle illegal.

Explain it. You're the expert so present your case.
If you add oxicontin to baby formula, you've just made an illegal product from two legal products. Now you know.

Oxicontin can be legal too! Sorry to destroy your argument there!
Thart's what I'm saying, oxy (legal) + Baby formula (legal) = A product that's illegal

No, it is not. Giving it to a baby would be illegal, just like shooting a baby with a legal gun. The gun is legal and the bullets are legal, but shooting the baby is illegal.

Fertilizer and diesel fuel are the same way. Until you make a bomb, you have not broken the law.

You must be new at logical thinking!
 
You already know, but just want to make a fool out of yourself trying to rationalize it. YAWN!

No I don't know how a LEGAL accessory makes a LEGAL rifle illegal.

Explain it. You're the expert so present your case.
If you add oxicontin to baby formula, you've just made an illegal product from two legal products. Now you know.

Oxicontin can be legal too! Sorry to destroy your argument there!
Thart's what I'm saying, oxy (legal) + Baby formula (legal) = A product that's illegal

No, it is not. Giving it to a baby would be illegal, just like shooting a baby with a legal gun. The gun is legal and the bullets are legal, but shooting the baby is illegal.

Fertilizer and diesel fuel are the same way. Until you make a bomb, you have not broken the law.

You must be new at logical thinking!
You said "Giving it to a baby would be illegal", and you'd probably agree that selling it would be illegal as well. So you agree with me. Good for you.
 
The objects discussed are irrelevant to the intention and action of the person wielding them
So if the Vegas shooter didn't have the firepower that he had, how does he shoot 600 people from a window far away in the 10 or so minutes it took to find him? :popcorn:
If he was hell bent on murder as he was what law would have stopped him?

He could have just as easily fired those shots without a bump stock
He could have bought a Ford F350 and an 8 foot snow plow and killed as many or more.

The intent of the person is the causal factor not a gun not an accessory for a gun not a truck etc
But how does he shoot 600 people in such a short time if there had been laws outlawing what he used?

There were no laws outlawing what he used!

That's like asking what would have happened had he slipped in the shower, cracked his skull, and died before shooting anyone.
 
The objects discussed are irrelevant to the intention and action of the person wielding them
So if the Vegas shooter didn't have the firepower that he had, how does he shoot 600 people from a window far away in the 10 or so minutes it took to find him? :popcorn:
If he was hell bent on murder as he was what law would have stopped him?

He could have just as easily fired those shots without a bump stock
He could have bought a Ford F350 and an 8 foot snow plow and killed as many or more.

The intent of the person is the causal factor not a gun not an accessory for a gun not a truck etc
But how does he shoot 600 people in such a short time if there had been laws outlawing what he used?
Lol IKR? Whats a black market?
Its like drugs. Ever since we outlawed them, they are virtually non existent.
So you agree that if we could outlaw those types of weapons properly that it would be a good thing. Good for you.

Your reading comprehension skills are horrible.
 
No I don't know how a LEGAL accessory makes a LEGAL rifle illegal.

Explain it. You're the expert so present your case.
If you add oxicontin to baby formula, you've just made an illegal product from two legal products. Now you know.

Oxicontin can be legal too! Sorry to destroy your argument there!
Thart's what I'm saying, oxy (legal) + Baby formula (legal) = A product that's illegal

No, it is not. Giving it to a baby would be illegal, just like shooting a baby with a legal gun. The gun is legal and the bullets are legal, but shooting the baby is illegal.

Fertilizer and diesel fuel are the same way. Until you make a bomb, you have not broken the law.

You must be new at logical thinking!
You said "Giving it to a baby would be illegal", and you'd probably agree that selling it would be illegal as well. So you agree with me. Good for you.

Selling it is not illegal if you are a pharmacy dispensing a prescription.

I suggest giving up this line of argument because you really suck at it.
 
The objects discussed are irrelevant to the intention and action of the person wielding them
So if the Vegas shooter didn't have the firepower that he had, how does he shoot 600 people from a window far away in the 10 or so minutes it took to find him? :popcorn:
If he was hell bent on murder as he was what law would have stopped him?

He could have just as easily fired those shots without a bump stock
He could have bought a Ford F350 and an 8 foot snow plow and killed as many or more.

The intent of the person is the causal factor not a gun not an accessory for a gun not a truck etc
But how does he shoot 600 people in such a short time if there had been laws outlawing what he used?

There were no laws outlawing what he used!

That's like asking what would have happened had he slipped in the shower, cracked his skull, and died before shooting anyone.
So you're comparing a 600 person shooting to falling in the shower? :cuckoo:
 
If you add oxicontin to baby formula, you've just made an illegal product from two legal products. Now you know.

Oxicontin can be legal too! Sorry to destroy your argument there!
Thart's what I'm saying, oxy (legal) + Baby formula (legal) = A product that's illegal

No, it is not. Giving it to a baby would be illegal, just like shooting a baby with a legal gun. The gun is legal and the bullets are legal, but shooting the baby is illegal.

Fertilizer and diesel fuel are the same way. Until you make a bomb, you have not broken the law.

You must be new at logical thinking!
You said "Giving it to a baby would be illegal", and you'd probably agree that selling it would be illegal as well. So you agree with me. Good for you.

Selling it is not illegal if you are a pharmacy dispensing a prescription.

I suggest giving up this line of argument because you really suck at it.
I will give it up, because you have to be just pretending not to understand what I mean.
 
The objects discussed are irrelevant to the intention and action of the person wielding them
So if the Vegas shooter didn't have the firepower that he had, how does he shoot 600 people from a window far away in the 10 or so minutes it took to find him? :popcorn:
If he was hell bent on murder as he was what law would have stopped him?

He could have just as easily fired those shots without a bump stock
He could have bought a Ford F350 and an 8 foot snow plow and killed as many or more.

The intent of the person is the causal factor not a gun not an accessory for a gun not a truck etc
But how does he shoot 600 people in such a short time if there had been laws outlawing what he used?

There were no laws outlawing what he used!

That's like asking what would have happened had he slipped in the shower, cracked his skull, and died before shooting anyone.
So you're comparing a 600 person shooting to falling in the shower? :cuckoo:

You really ARE that stupid! You need to log off this web site and do a Google search for adult education opportunities in your area.

Your ass is D-U-M-B!
 
So if the Vegas shooter didn't have the firepower that he had, how does he shoot 600 people from a window far away in the 10 or so minutes it took to find him? :popcorn:
If he was hell bent on murder as he was what law would have stopped him?

He could have just as easily fired those shots without a bump stock
He could have bought a Ford F350 and an 8 foot snow plow and killed as many or more.

The intent of the person is the causal factor not a gun not an accessory for a gun not a truck etc
But how does he shoot 600 people in such a short time if there had been laws outlawing what he used?

There were no laws outlawing what he used!

That's like asking what would have happened had he slipped in the shower, cracked his skull, and died before shooting anyone.
So you're comparing a 600 person shooting to falling in the shower? :cuckoo:

You really ARE that stupid! You need to log off this web site and do a Google search for adult education opportunities in your area.

Your ass is D-U-M-B!
If I'm so dumb, then tell me, if there would have been laws in place outlawing what the Vegas shooter used, how would he have killed and wounded as many as he did from that window?
 
If he was hell bent on murder as he was what law would have stopped him?

He could have just as easily fired those shots without a bump stock
He could have bought a Ford F350 and an 8 foot snow plow and killed as many or more.

The intent of the person is the causal factor not a gun not an accessory for a gun not a truck etc
But how does he shoot 600 people in such a short time if there had been laws outlawing what he used?

There were no laws outlawing what he used!

That's like asking what would have happened had he slipped in the shower, cracked his skull, and died before shooting anyone.
So you're comparing a 600 person shooting to falling in the shower? :cuckoo:

You really ARE that stupid! You need to log off this web site and do a Google search for adult education opportunities in your area.

Your ass is D-U-M-B!
If I'm so dumb, then tell me, if there would have been laws in place outlawing what the Vegas shooter used, how would he have killed and wounded as many as he did from that window?

If there were laws against stupidity, you would not be allowed to post on this message board.

Why do you keep asking bullshit questions? Log off and find some help. No one should be allowed to go through life without any education.

If there were laws against white senior citizens renting rooms above the 4th floor, how would he have killed and wounded as many as he did from that window?

Now, do you see how stupid your question is?
 
^^^ If the man was helped getting his luggage up to his room, how could it go unnoticed how much he had with him and how heavy each piece was?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
Its a hotel...
People carry all kinds of stuff up to hotel rooms. Its vegas... They even shoot porn in hotels. Wonder how much that equipment weighs.
Again, its a HOTEL.
And now instead of porn, people are being shot in a completely different way...one that they can not write home about because they don't live to tell about the experience. Also I highly doubt that camera equipment would be carried in the same kind of container compared to a gun collection.

^^^ How could the guy's extra "luggage" not be noticed while being at the hotel? It was brought in when he first showed up and was given a key to the room he did his shooting from. How many days had he been there so far before the shooting took place? How could the cleaning staff not pick up on anything where his staying there was concerned?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
You do realize that if you put up the "Do not disturb" sign, they won't!
Well in my opinion, such a sign should be done away with now. Especially if people like that man are going to take full advantage of it. I say to heck with them! If they only have law breaking activity on their mind, why should any request that they themselves have be respected in return?

^^^ If the man was helped getting his luggage up to his room, how could it go unnoticed how much he had with him and how heavy each piece was?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
How do you know anyone helped him?

I always carry my own luggage.
Not everyone carries their own stuff especially if they bring so much with them. How do you know that the man wasn't helped?

God bless you two always!!!

Holly
 
^^^ If the man was helped getting his luggage up to his room, how could it go unnoticed how much he had with him and how heavy each piece was?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
Its a hotel...
People carry all kinds of stuff up to hotel rooms. Its vegas... They even shoot porn in hotels. Wonder how much that equipment weighs.
Again, its a HOTEL.
And now instead of porn, people are being shot in a completely different way...one that they can not write home about because they don't live to tell about the experience. Also I highly doubt that camera equipment would be carried in the same kind of container compared to a gun collection.

^^^ How could the guy's extra "luggage" not be noticed while being at the hotel? It was brought in when he first showed up and was given a key to the room he did his shooting from. How many days had he been there so far before the shooting took place? How could the cleaning staff not pick up on anything where his staying there was concerned?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
You do realize that if you put up the "Do not disturb" sign, they won't!
Well in my opinion, such a sign should be done away with now. Especially if people like that man are going to take full advantage of it. I say to heck with them! If they only have law breaking activity on their mind, why should any request that they themselves have be respected in return?

^^^ If the man was helped getting his luggage up to his room, how could it go unnoticed how much he had with him and how heavy each piece was?

God bless you always!!!

Holly
How do you know anyone helped him?

I always carry my own luggage.
Not everyone carries their own stuff especially if they bring so much with them. How do you know that the man wasn't helped?

God bless you two always!!!

Holly
You missed my point entirely. And frankly, i doubt either one of us know what they are carrying their cameras dildos and lube in lol.
 
But how does he shoot 600 people in such a short time if there had been laws outlawing what he used?

There were no laws outlawing what he used!

That's like asking what would have happened had he slipped in the shower, cracked his skull, and died before shooting anyone.
So you're comparing a 600 person shooting to falling in the shower? :cuckoo:

You really ARE that stupid! You need to log off this web site and do a Google search for adult education opportunities in your area.

Your ass is D-U-M-B!
If I'm so dumb, then tell me, if there would have been laws in place outlawing what the Vegas shooter used, how would he have killed and wounded as many as he did from that window?

If there were laws against stupidity, you would not be allowed to post on this message board.

Why do you keep asking bullshit questions? Log off and find some help. No one should be allowed to go through life without any education.

If there were laws against white senior citizens renting rooms above the 4th floor, how would he have killed and wounded as many as he did from that window?

Now, do you see how stupid your question is?
You have nothing because you know that I'm right. Just man up, princess. :lol:
 

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