"We need to redistribute wealth among Americans" WTF...why does this always sound so retarded to me?

We never did. My grandfather joined the N.Y. police force, after the war. My mother and I both put in years working FOR social services. My father's family started out in factories before becoming small business owners. The American dream baby.

What the hell do you think pays the salaries of police? Taxes. That's someone else's money your grandfather received. What the hell do you think pays to fund social service agencies? Again, taxes. That's someone else's money you and your mother relied on. So much for doing it on your own.
Welcome to reality, we have many socialistic programs. Do you suggest we don't need police?

The reality is you didn't do it on your own. You rely on mandated taxes to fund your salary. Can't make it in the real world?
I didn't do what on my own? Pay my own salary? ....You're a bafoon.

You rely on taxes that are mandated in order to get a salary. In private industry you have to do the job in order to get the pay. As a social service worker, you get paid regardless.

You're argument is I work a job funded by mandated taxes that people have no choice to pay but I did it all on my own. If your pay actually came from the return on the job you did, how much would you make? Want to put that to a test?
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.
 
Welcome to reality, we have many socialistic programs. Do you suggest we don't need police?

Interesting how you call programs where one group is forced to fund another as doing it on your own.
So if you could choose to not pay our police force, to not pay our firefighters, and to not pay our soldiers, for putting their lives on the line, that's what you would choose? You believe that those positions are unnecessary? You believe their work is not worth anything?


Are you an idiot or do you just hate America?

Never said they weren't necessary. I said that the manner in which your grandfather was paid was through something for which the people had no choice. That means he had to rely on a mandate in order to get paid. That's not doing it on your own.
Well I think your distorted opinions are ridiculous. Cops work very hard for the money they make and they are very valuable to our society. They work harder than you ever will, and are much more valuable than you will ever be.

Now call me another name, it's been a whole 10 minutes.

Never said they didn't work hard or weren't valuable. As for what you do, I question what value it holds.

Since you don't know what I do, saying someone works harder than me and is more valuable than me proves you're a dumbass. That's not calling you a name, it's identifying what you've proven yourself to be by making claims like you make.

Now call me another name. I guess you think buffoon isn't one.
But i was a whore who didnt love my children an hour ago, when you had no idea of my background. So we're both dumbasses?
 
What the hell do you think pays the salaries of police? Taxes. That's someone else's money your grandfather received. What the hell do you think pays to fund social service agencies? Again, taxes. That's someone else's money you and your mother relied on. So much for doing it on your own.
Welcome to reality, we have many socialistic programs. Do you suggest we don't need police?

The reality is you didn't do it on your own. You rely on mandated taxes to fund your salary. Can't make it in the real world?
I didn't do what on my own? Pay my own salary? ....You're a bafoon.

You rely on taxes that are mandated in order to get a salary. In private industry you have to do the job in order to get the pay. As a social service worker, you get paid regardless.

You're argument is I work a job funded by mandated taxes that people have no choice to pay but I did it all on my own. If your pay actually came from the return on the job you did, how much would you make? Want to put that to a test?
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.

It's a government job. There are teachers in the school system that couldn't teach a fish to swim and they don't get fired.

It's a job in social services. How hard can it be?
 
Interesting how you call programs where one group is forced to fund another as doing it on your own.
So if you could choose to not pay our police force, to not pay our firefighters, and to not pay our soldiers, for putting their lives on the line, that's what you would choose? You believe that those positions are unnecessary? You believe their work is not worth anything?


Are you an idiot or do you just hate America?

Never said they weren't necessary. I said that the manner in which your grandfather was paid was through something for which the people had no choice. That means he had to rely on a mandate in order to get paid. That's not doing it on your own.
Well I think your distorted opinions are ridiculous. Cops work very hard for the money they make and they are very valuable to our society. They work harder than you ever will, and are much more valuable than you will ever be.

Now call me another name, it's been a whole 10 minutes.

Never said they didn't work hard or weren't valuable. As for what you do, I question what value it holds.

Since you don't know what I do, saying someone works harder than me and is more valuable than me proves you're a dumbass. That's not calling you a name, it's identifying what you've proven yourself to be by making claims like you make.

Now call me another name. I guess you think buffoon isn't one.
But i was a whore who didnt love my children an hour ago, when you had no idea of my background. So we're both dumbasses?

You had said plenty before I made my statement. You don't have a clue what I do yet you're saying someone works harder than me.
 
Welcome to reality, we have many socialistic programs. Do you suggest we don't need police?

The reality is you didn't do it on your own. You rely on mandated taxes to fund your salary. Can't make it in the real world?
I didn't do what on my own? Pay my own salary? ....You're a bafoon.

You rely on taxes that are mandated in order to get a salary. In private industry you have to do the job in order to get the pay. As a social service worker, you get paid regardless.

You're argument is I work a job funded by mandated taxes that people have no choice to pay but I did it all on my own. If your pay actually came from the return on the job you did, how much would you make? Want to put that to a test?
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.

It's a government job. There are teachers in the school system that couldn't teach a fish to swim and they don't get fired.

It's a job in social services. How hard can it be?
It's very challenging I hear hundreds of different cases a week with different needs. But I mean I'm not a neurosurgeon...and I'm not paid like one. But I am certainly expected to do my job and do it right.....
 
So if you could choose to not pay our police force, to not pay our firefighters, and to not pay our soldiers, for putting their lives on the line, that's what you would choose? You believe that those positions are unnecessary? You believe their work is not worth anything?


Are you an idiot or do you just hate America?

Never said they weren't necessary. I said that the manner in which your grandfather was paid was through something for which the people had no choice. That means he had to rely on a mandate in order to get paid. That's not doing it on your own.
Well I think your distorted opinions are ridiculous. Cops work very hard for the money they make and they are very valuable to our society. They work harder than you ever will, and are much more valuable than you will ever be.

Now call me another name, it's been a whole 10 minutes.

Never said they didn't work hard or weren't valuable. As for what you do, I question what value it holds.

Since you don't know what I do, saying someone works harder than me and is more valuable than me proves you're a dumbass. That's not calling you a name, it's identifying what you've proven yourself to be by making claims like you make.

Now call me another name. I guess you think buffoon isn't one.
But i was a whore who didnt love my children an hour ago, when you had no idea of my background. So we're both dumbasses?

You had said plenty before I made my statement. You don't have a clue what I do yet you're saying someone works harder than me.
I think cops have a very hard job. Do you think you have a harder job than a police officer or a soldier?
 
The reality is you didn't do it on your own. You rely on mandated taxes to fund your salary. Can't make it in the real world?
I didn't do what on my own? Pay my own salary? ....You're a bafoon.

You rely on taxes that are mandated in order to get a salary. In private industry you have to do the job in order to get the pay. As a social service worker, you get paid regardless.

You're argument is I work a job funded by mandated taxes that people have no choice to pay but I did it all on my own. If your pay actually came from the return on the job you did, how much would you make? Want to put that to a test?
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.

It's a government job. There are teachers in the school system that couldn't teach a fish to swim and they don't get fired.

It's a job in social services. How hard can it be?
It's very challenging I hear hundreds of different cases a week with different needs. But I mean I'm not a neurosurgeon...and I'm not paid like one. But I am certainly expected to do my job and do it right.....

Oh, you sit there and listen to people whine like we read about you on USMB?
 
I didn't do what on my own? Pay my own salary? ....You're a bafoon.

You rely on taxes that are mandated in order to get a salary. In private industry you have to do the job in order to get the pay. As a social service worker, you get paid regardless.

You're argument is I work a job funded by mandated taxes that people have no choice to pay but I did it all on my own. If your pay actually came from the return on the job you did, how much would you make? Want to put that to a test?
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.

It's a government job. There are teachers in the school system that couldn't teach a fish to swim and they don't get fired.

It's a job in social services. How hard can it be?
It's very challenging I hear hundreds of different cases a week with different needs. But I mean I'm not a neurosurgeon...and I'm not paid like one. But I am certainly expected to do my job and do it right.....

Oh, you sit there and listen to people whine like we read about you on USMB?
I listen to stories of abused women, homeless vets, single mothers, AND people who work 40 hours a week at minimum wage and can't make ends meet. I just got off the phone with a homeless 17 year old boy who was sobbing.
I have empathy and compassion, you have not shown that you posses either of those characteristics.
 
Never said they weren't necessary. I said that the manner in which your grandfather was paid was through something for which the people had no choice. That means he had to rely on a mandate in order to get paid. That's not doing it on your own.
Well I think your distorted opinions are ridiculous. Cops work very hard for the money they make and they are very valuable to our society. They work harder than you ever will, and are much more valuable than you will ever be.

Now call me another name, it's been a whole 10 minutes.

Never said they didn't work hard or weren't valuable. As for what you do, I question what value it holds.

Since you don't know what I do, saying someone works harder than me and is more valuable than me proves you're a dumbass. That's not calling you a name, it's identifying what you've proven yourself to be by making claims like you make.

Now call me another name. I guess you think buffoon isn't one.
But i was a whore who didnt love my children an hour ago, when you had no idea of my background. So we're both dumbasses?

You had said plenty before I made my statement. You don't have a clue what I do yet you're saying someone works harder than me.
I think cops have a very hard job. Do you think you have a harder job than a police officer or a soldier?

Never said they didn't have a hard job. I know many of them.

I think my jobS are just as hard.
 
Well I think your distorted opinions are ridiculous. Cops work very hard for the money they make and they are very valuable to our society. They work harder than you ever will, and are much more valuable than you will ever be.

Now call me another name, it's been a whole 10 minutes.

Never said they didn't work hard or weren't valuable. As for what you do, I question what value it holds.

Since you don't know what I do, saying someone works harder than me and is more valuable than me proves you're a dumbass. That's not calling you a name, it's identifying what you've proven yourself to be by making claims like you make.

Now call me another name. I guess you think buffoon isn't one.
But i was a whore who didnt love my children an hour ago, when you had no idea of my background. So we're both dumbasses?

You had said plenty before I made my statement. You don't have a clue what I do yet you're saying someone works harder than me.
I think cops have a very hard job. Do you think you have a harder job than a police officer or a soldier?

Never said they didn't have a hard job. I know many of them.

I think my jobS are just as hard.
Your thoughts have proved already to be dostorted... what is your job?
 
Your side suggested cops don't work for their salary and they are unnecessary and shouldn't be paid. Do you agree?

Please show us the prominent Republicans who have said police are not necessary and should not be paid. I think you have that confused with Chelsea Manning who thinks we should have no borders, no police, and no military.
 
You rely on taxes that are mandated in order to get a salary. In private industry you have to do the job in order to get the pay. As a social service worker, you get paid regardless.

You're argument is I work a job funded by mandated taxes that people have no choice to pay but I did it all on my own. If your pay actually came from the return on the job you did, how much would you make? Want to put that to a test?
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.

It's a government job. There are teachers in the school system that couldn't teach a fish to swim and they don't get fired.

It's a job in social services. How hard can it be?
It's very challenging I hear hundreds of different cases a week with different needs. But I mean I'm not a neurosurgeon...and I'm not paid like one. But I am certainly expected to do my job and do it right.....

Oh, you sit there and listen to people whine like we read about you on USMB?
I listen to stories of abused women, homeless vets, single mothers, AND people who work 40 hours a week at minimum wage and can't make ends meet. I just got off the phone with a homeless 17 year old who was sobbing.
I have empathy and compassion, you have not shown that you posses either of those characteristics.

Why is that single mother a single mother? Did she have a child with someone for whom she chose to spread her legs then he ran off when he knocked her up?

Does that person working 40 hours/week for minimum wage do so because they quit high school? Offer little to no marketable skills?

If someone put him/herself in the situation they're in by the choices he/she made, why is that the responsibility of others to offset the results of those choices? Why should the taxpayers support that single mother when the result of her choices caused her problems? I didn't make those choices yet I'm expected to be one of the taxpayers required to offset the results.
 
Your side suggested cops don't work for their salary and they are unnecessary and shouldn't be paid. Do you agree?

Please show us the prominent Republicans who have said police are not necessary and should not be paid. I think you have that confused with Chelsea Manning who thinks we should have no borders, no police, and no military.
No one prominent, just this doofas conservative I've been going back and forth with all day. You jumped in on his side so I figured you wanted in on that.
 
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.

It's a government job. There are teachers in the school system that couldn't teach a fish to swim and they don't get fired.

It's a job in social services. How hard can it be?
It's very challenging I hear hundreds of different cases a week with different needs. But I mean I'm not a neurosurgeon...and I'm not paid like one. But I am certainly expected to do my job and do it right.....

Oh, you sit there and listen to people whine like we read about you on USMB?
I listen to stories of abused women, homeless vets, single mothers, AND people who work 40 hours a week at minimum wage and can't make ends meet. I just got off the phone with a homeless 17 year old who was sobbing.
I have empathy and compassion, you have not shown that you posses either of those characteristics.

Why is that single mother a single mother? Did she have a child with someone for whom she chose to spread her legs then he ran off when he knocked her up?

Does that person working 40 hours/week for minimum wage do so because they quit high school? Offer little to no marketable skills?

If someone put him/herself in the situation they're in by the choices he/she made, why is that the responsibility of others to offset the results of those choices? Why should the taxpayers support that single mother when the result of her choices caused her problems? I didn't make those choices yet I'm expected to be one of the taxpayers required to offset the results.
The person working 40 hours a week can't go to school to advance themselves, because they're making minimum wage and can't afford it. Let's say the mother was raped and doesn't believe in abortion... There are so many things that cause poverty that it is ridiculous to condemn them all as being irresponsible..
 
Never said they didn't work hard or weren't valuable. As for what you do, I question what value it holds.

Since you don't know what I do, saying someone works harder than me and is more valuable than me proves you're a dumbass. That's not calling you a name, it's identifying what you've proven yourself to be by making claims like you make.

Now call me another name. I guess you think buffoon isn't one.
But i was a whore who didnt love my children an hour ago, when you had no idea of my background. So we're both dumbasses?

You had said plenty before I made my statement. You don't have a clue what I do yet you're saying someone works harder than me.
I think cops have a very hard job. Do you think you have a harder job than a police officer or a soldier?

Never said they didn't have a hard job. I know many of them.

I think my jobS are just as hard.
Your thoughts have proved already to be dostorted... what is your job?

"dosorted" What the fuck is that?

I work for myself as a general contractor and an arson investigator.
 
Your side suggested cops don't work for their salary and they are unnecessary and shouldn't be paid. Do you agree?

Please show us the prominent Republicans who have said police are not necessary and should not be paid. I think you have that confused with Chelsea Manning who thinks we should have no borders, no police, and no military.
No one prominent, just this doofas conservative I've been going back and forth with all day. You jumped in on his side so I figured you wanted in on that.

Name calling, again? It's only been 5 minutes. Sad thing is you misspelled "doofus" while trying to call me stupid.

Please show me where I said police are not necessary. Quote please?
 
But i was a whore who didnt love my children an hour ago, when you had no idea of my background. So we're both dumbasses?

You had said plenty before I made my statement. You don't have a clue what I do yet you're saying someone works harder than me.
I think cops have a very hard job. Do you think you have a harder job than a police officer or a soldier?

Never said they didn't have a hard job. I know many of them.

I think my jobS are just as hard.
Your thoughts have proved already to be dostorted... what is your job?

"dosorted" What the fuck is that?

I work for myself as a general contractor and an arson investigator.
Yea, police have it harder than you.

Distorted..i just got a new phone and my autocorrect is being silly.
 
Your side suggested cops don't work for their salary and they are unnecessary and shouldn't be paid. Do you agree?

Please show us the prominent Republicans who have said police are not necessary and should not be paid. I think you have that confused with Chelsea Manning who thinks we should have no borders, no police, and no military.
No one prominent, just this doofas conservative I've been going back and forth with all day. You jumped in on his side so I figured you wanted in on that.

Name calling, again? It's only been 5 minutes. Sad thing is you misspelled "doofus" while trying to call me stupid.

Please show me where I said police are not necessary. Quote please?
You started the name calling, bitch.
 
I've worked in both the public and the private sector. For both jobs, I worked my ass off. If I don't do my job as a social worker I could still get fired. I haven't been fired, because I do my job.. You think gov. Employees can't get fired? Watch Donnie.

It's a government job. There are teachers in the school system that couldn't teach a fish to swim and they don't get fired.

It's a job in social services. How hard can it be?
It's very challenging I hear hundreds of different cases a week with different needs. But I mean I'm not a neurosurgeon...and I'm not paid like one. But I am certainly expected to do my job and do it right.....

Oh, you sit there and listen to people whine like we read about you on USMB?
I listen to stories of abused women, homeless vets, single mothers, AND people who work 40 hours a week at minimum wage and can't make ends meet. I just got off the phone with a homeless 17 year old who was sobbing.
I have empathy and compassion, you have not shown that you posses either of those characteristics.

Why is that single mother a single mother? Did she have a child with someone for whom she chose to spread her legs then he ran off when he knocked her up?

Does that person working 40 hours/week for minimum wage do so because they quit high school? Offer little to no marketable skills?

If someone put him/herself in the situation they're in by the choices he/she made, why is that the responsibility of others to offset the results of those choices? Why should the taxpayers support that single mother when the result of her choices caused her problems? I didn't make those choices yet I'm expected to be one of the taxpayers required to offset the results.
Although, some cases are sheer irresponsibility. I deny those cases.
 
The population, and especially low income segments, pay with the lives of their children for the choices/mistakes of the powerful.
What makes for a balanced society requires careful consideration.
 

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