Weather destroys wind turbines in Iowa

[Zincwarrior]

I don't believe they service me. So I can say what I want to say. Right?

And they can tell you to right stuff it, and verily.

 

[Robert W]

And they can tell you to right stuff it, and verily.

What is their reason?

 

[Zincwarrior]

What is their reason?

They are making money and are in the business to make money.

 

[Robert W]

They are making money and are in the business to make money.

So???? I told you my belief is the windmills do not impact on me. It is as if you defended prostitution because they make money.

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Idaho Power owns and operates 17 hydroelectric plants on the Snake River and its tributaries. They make up our largest source of electrical generation.

 

[elektra]

Largest share, doesn't mean the largest subsidy amount.

"Renewable subsidies jumped to $15.6 billion in fiscal year 2022 from $7.4 billion in fiscal year 2016, according to the Energy Information Administration's Federal Financial Interventions and Subsidies in Energy report".

Proposals to Reduce Fossil Fuel Subsidies (January 2024) ...​

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Jan 30, 2024 — In 2022, fossil fuel subsidies in the United States totaled $757 billion, according to the International Monetary Fund.

Your link said largest.

Your link said Solar and Wind revieves subsidies and Fossil Fuels do not!!!!

Your link proved you wrong! Now you get another link when you cant argue with your first link!

And you claim you know! You cant tell us a thing without searching for a link you agree with. That is the opposite of knowledge

 

[Robert W]

Your link said largest.

Your link said Solar and Wind revieves subsidies and Fossil Fuels do not!!!!

Your link proved you wrong! Now you get another link when you cant argue with your first link!

And you claim you know! You cant tell us a thing without searching for a link you agree with. That is the opposite of knowledge

When Democrats spin, a lot of truth is spun off like trash. They depend on posters to skip much of their claims.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Your link said largest.

Yes it did.

Your link said Solar and Wind revieves subsidies and Fossil Fuels do not!!!!

No, it didn't.

"Renewable subsidies jumped to $15.6 billion in fiscal year 2022 from $7.4 billion in fiscal year 2016".
" In 2022, fossil fuel subsidies in the United States totaled $757 billion".

Your link proved you wrong! Now you get another link when you cant argue with your first link!

You're FOS.

And you claim you know! You cant tell us a thing without searching for a link you agree with. That is the opposite of knowledge

$757 billion?
$15.6 billion?

Which one is the larger amount?

 

[elektra]

Yes it did.
No, it didn't.
"Renewable subsidies jumped to $15.6 billion in fiscal year 2022 from $7.4 billion in fiscal year 2016".
" In 2022, fossil fuel subsidies in the United States totaled $757 billion".

First and foremost, Reuters is propaganda.
You have yet to tell us the name of the subsidy. Anybody can call tax deductions that all businesses get, subsidies. Your Reuter's article states exactly that. The Fossil Fuel industry is using the tax code to reduce the taxes it pays, and you call that a subsidy.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

First and foremost, Reuters is propaganda.
You have yet to tell us the name of the subsidy. Anybody can call tax deductions that all businesses get, subsidies. Your Reuter's article states exactly that. The Fossil Fuel industry is using the tax code to reduce the taxes it pays, and you call that a subsidy.

Yes.
The same with renewable energy.

 

[elektra]

Yes.
The same with renewable energy.

What is the name of the fossil energy subsidy you speak of, it must have a name? You are making claims that are unsupported by facts

 

[elektra]

Yes.
The same with renewable energy.

What is the name of the fossil energy subsidy you speak of, it must have a name? You are making claims that are unsupported by facts

Okay, we all see you disagree with my comment I am reposting. You must disagree because you have the facts. That is great, what is the name of the Fossil Fuel subsidies? Anybody can misuse words, substituting the word subsidy for tax code.

The government misuses words all the time, like calling Wind Turbines and Solar Panels, renewable.

What is the name of your subsidy you refer to.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

What is the name of the fossil energy subsidy you speak of, it must have a name? You are making claims that are unsupported by facts

Okay, we all see you disagree with my comment I am reposting. You must disagree because you have the facts. That is great, what is the name of the Fossil Fuel subsidies? Anybody can misuse words, substituting the word subsidy for tax code.

The government misuses words all the time, like calling Wind Turbines and Solar Panels, renewable.

What is the name of your subsidy you refer to.

A subsidy.

Anytime someone gets a tax bill and pays less than what is owed is a subsidy.

 

[elektra]

A subsidy.
Anytime someone gets a tax bill and pays less than what is owed is a subsidy.

Okay, nobody pays less tax than what they owe. Corporations dont pay less than what they owe.
Smokin, you have no idea what a subsidy is. It is not what you described and what you describe is not happening in the Fossil Fuel industry.

 

[Crick]

Okay, nobody pays less tax than what they owe. Corporations dont pay less than what they owe.
Smokin, you have no idea what a subsidy is. It is not what you described and what you describe is not happening in the Fossil Fuel industry.

Semantic bullshit. If the government gives you a subsidy via a tax break, they have given you a subsidy.

 

[elektra]

Semantic bullshit. If the government gives you a subsidy via a tax break, they have given you a subsidy.

Yes, your comment is semantic bullshit. First and foremost, you should be using the term, tax code. Reducing the amount of money one pays in taxes is not a subsidy, that is simply keeping more of our private property.

If lil crick would of stated, a targeted tax break is a subsidy, then that would be truthful. Which brings us to the ITC and the PTC that targets renewables.

 

[Crepitus]

What more can be said. Weather destroyed wind turbines in Iowa. The Democrats are intent on building wind turbines that are inefficient, short lived, weak and vulnerable.

Wind Turbines is kind of like driving an old car from 1918. The need constant maintenance, they get extremely bad gas mileage, and are terrible in bad weather.

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Remember when weather shut down the gas powered plants in Texas?'

You wanna stop using them too?

 

[The Duke]

??? Tornados can not destroy a nuclear power plant
Funny, your argument is, but but but what about hurricanes and politics?

Not a very good idea to use wind turbines and solar plants that are easily destroyed

Tornados and hurricanes can destroy pretty much everything you think they can't.

Now, planting wind turbines in Tornado Alley is NOT a bright idea.

 

[The Duke]

Remember folks, always read the oppositions links because the opposition lack comprehension skills.

Smokin DP, says fossil fuels are subsidiesed more than Solar, yet Smokin links to article saying Solar is subsidisied much more.

Most of those subsidies took the form of tax incentives in recent years, with solar applications making up the largest share of the subsidies due in part to rapid industry growth, the report showed

Self-ownage! Nice!

 

[elektra]

Remember when weather shut down the gas powered plants in Texas?'
You wanna stop using them too?

I remember extreme cold weather shutting down gas powered plants, that were returned to service in a matter of a days.

Wind turbines destroyed by weather, require months if not years to be repaired, or years to be replaced.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Okay, nobody pays less tax than what they owe.

YES, they do.

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Aug 4, 2021 — Figures drawn from President Trump's tax-return data show how that number was calculated.

Corporations dont pay less than what they owe.

YES, they do.

Amazon Avoids More Than $5 Billion in Corporate Income ...​

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Feb 7, 2022 — If Amazon had no tax breaks, it would have paid 21 percent of its profits in corporate income taxes, or more than $7.3 billion. Instead, it paid ...

55 Corporations Paid $0 in Federal Taxes on 2020 Profits​

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Apr 2, 2021 — At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying ...

Smokin, you have no idea what a subsidy is.

You took the Trump U. "economics" correspondence school course.........

Subsidy - Definition - The Economic Times - IndiaTimes​

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Definition: Subsidy is a transfer of money from the government to an entity. It leads to a fall in the price of the subsidised product.

Subsidies: Definition, How They Work, Pros and Cons​

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A subsidy is a direct or indirect payment to individuals or firms, usually in the form of a cash payment from the government or a targeted tax cut. In economic ...

Back to Basics: Subsidy Wars​

International Monetary Fund
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Subsidies are a transfer of resources from a government to a domestic entity without an equivalent contribution in return and can take many forms, including direct grants to domestic companies, tax incentives, or favorable terms for financing. Governments use subsidies for several reasons, and their terms are shaped by the goal the government hopes to accomplish.

It is not what you described and what you describe is not happening in the Fossil Fuel industry.

Oil companies line up for billions of dollars in subsidies ...​

Financial Times
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Mar 6, 2023 — An oil industry that opposed President Joe Biden's signature climate law is now manoeuvring to claim billions of dollars of US tax credits ...