Weather destroys wind turbines in Iowa

[Crick]

Remember when weather shut down the gas powered plants in Texas?'

You wanna stop using them too?

Flooding. Earthquakes. Fires. There are lots of natural events that will stop a fossil fuel power plant. Additionally, though they are made to be reliable, they are dramatically more complex than wind turbines and thus have many more ways to fail.

 

[Crick]

I remember extreme cold weather shutting down gas powered plants, that were returned to service in a matter of a days.

Wind turbines destroyed by weather, require months if not years to be repaired, or years to be replaced.

It does not take years to replace a wind turbine.

 

[elektra]

It does not take years to replace a wind turbine.

Yes it does. You do not buy them on aisle 11, at Home Depot.

 

[Crepitus]

I remember extreme cold weather shutting down gas powered plants, that were returned to service in a matter of a days.

Wind turbines destroyed by weather, require months if not years to be repaired, or years to be replaced.

Weeks, not days. People died. Remember that part?

 

[elektra]

Weeks, not days. People died. Remember that part?

yes, I remembered that people died because the Wind Turbines failed

 

[Slade3200]

What more can be said. Weather destroyed wind turbines in Iowa. The Democrats are intent on building wind turbines that are inefficient, short lived, weak and vulnerable.

Wind Turbines is kind of like driving an old car from 1918. The need constant maintenance, they get extremely bad gas mileage, and are terrible in bad weather.

Disasters suck. Oil leaks happen as well. Just gotta build em better and stronger. This certainly isn’t a valid reason for not pursuing wind energy. I hope you’re not trying to make that case, are you?

 

[elektra]

Disasters suck. Oil leaks happen as well. Just gotta build em better and stronger. This certainly isn’t a valid reason for not pursuing wind energy. I hope you’re not trying to make that case, are you?

There are many valid reasons not to pursue wind energy. This is one. Replacing reliable power plants with inefficient intermittent Wind Energy left Texas without energy during a crisis.

There is no valid reason to use expensive, inefficient, only works sometimes, wind energy.

Buy an old 1965 Chrysler Sedan to commute to work, then come here and argue that is a good economical green clean form of transportation, that is your argument.

 

[Slade3200]

There are many valid reasons not to pursue wind energy. This is one. Replacing reliable power plants with inefficient intermittent Wind Energy left Texas without energy during a crisis.

There is no valid reason to use expensive, inefficient, only works sometimes, wind energy.

Buy an old 1965 Chrysler Sedan to commute to work, then come here and argue that is a good economical green clean form of transportation, that is your argument.

What a retarded argument. What’s expensive now becomes cheaper and more affordable and efficient in the future. Why you would actually be against developing and utilizing cleaner energy sources is simple absurd. Your mentality would still have us back in the horse and buggy days

 

[Crick]

Yes it does. You do not buy them on aisle 11, at Home Depot.

It doesn't take years to build them from scratch, ship them halfway around the world, take them to your site, erect them and attach them to the grid.

 

[Robert W]

First and foremost, Reuters is propaganda.
You have yet to tell us the name of the subsidy. Anybody can call tax deductions that all businesses get, subsidies. Your Reuter's article states exactly that. The Fossil Fuel industry is using the tax code to reduce the taxes it pays, and you call that a subsidy.

Subsidies is a marvelous word as used by Democrats. If they want more of X, they say it is great. If your fuel costs a dollar less, they get pissed and want your benefit gone, immediately.

 

[Robert W]

What a retarded argument. What’s expensive now becomes cheaper and more affordable and efficient in the future. Why you would actually be against developing and utilizing cleaner energy sources is simple absurd. Your mentality would still have us back in the horse and buggy days

Democrats always favor subsidies for the Federal Government. but let me and you get benefits suddenly those they say are awful.

 

[Robert W]

It doesn't take years to build them from scratch, ship them halfway around the world, take them to your site, erect them and attach them to the grid.

So development and manufacture and shipping are instant features?

 

[Slade3200]

Democrats always favor subsidies for the Federal Government. but let me and you get benefits suddenly those they say are awful.

For example?

 

[Robert W]

For example?

I checked the Biden Budget and it stipulates higher fees to the Government. This so stupid since the feds do not produce crude oil. Subsidies to the Feds is the major problem.

 

[Slade3200]

I checked the Biden Budget and it stipulates higher fees to the Government. This so stupid since the feds do not produce crude oil. Subsidies to the Feds is the major problem.

Higher fees to the government for what?

 

[Robert W]

Higher fees to the government for what?

Higher subsidies to the Government you mean?

Fact Sheet | Proposals to Reduce Fossil Fuel Subsidies (January 2024) | White Papers | EESI

This fact sheet discusses attempts to alter fossil fuel subsidies, including measures in the Biden-Harris Administration’s FY 2024 budget request.

www.eesi.org

 

[Robert W]

Higher fees to the government for what?

Low-Energy Fridays: How Much Are We Really Subsidizing Fossil Fuels? - R Street Institute

One surprisingly common notion is that fossil fuels are heavily subsidized in America and that renewable energy subsidies only put them on par with fossil fuels. This is a great example of how oft-repeated narratives can take on a life of their own, irrespective of reality. With the recent...

www.rstreet.org

With the recent release of a U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) report on energy subsidies, now is a good time to set the record straight on this topic.

The United States spent $29.4 billion on energy subsidies in 2022. Of that, $8.7 billion were “end-use” subsidies, mainly financial assistance for energy in low-income households ($3.8 billion), home energy efficiency subsidies ($2.7 billion) and electric vehicle subsidies ($1.1 billion). Another $481 million went to environmental conservation. That leaves $20.2 billion, 89 percent of which is for tax breaks.

Of that $20.2 billion, $15.6 billion went to renewable energy and $3.2 billion to fossil fuels. This yields a split of 77 percent of energy subsidies going to renewables and 16 percent going to fossil fuels (the remainder go to nuclear and other energy types). Fossil fuels produced 80.8 quadrillion British thermal units of energy in 2022, while renewables produced 13.3 quadrillion—meaning that, on average, renewable energy is subsidized 29 times as much as fossil energy.

 

[Crick]

Low-Energy Fridays: How Much Are We Really Subsidizing Fossil Fuels? - R Street Institute

One surprisingly common notion is that fossil fuels are heavily subsidized in America and that renewable energy subsidies only put them on par with fossil fuels. This is a great example of how oft-repeated narratives can take on a life of their own, irrespective of reality. With the recent...

www.rstreet.org

With the recent release of a U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) report on energy subsidies, now is a good time to set the record straight on this topic.

The United States spent $29.4 billion on energy subsidies in 2022. Of that, $8.7 billion were “end-use” subsidies, mainly financial assistance for energy in low-income households ($3.8 billion), home energy efficiency subsidies ($2.7 billion) and electric vehicle subsidies ($1.1 billion). Another $481 million went to environmental conservation. That leaves $20.2 billion, 89 percent of which is for tax breaks.

Of that $20.2 billion, $15.6 billion went to renewable energy and $3.2 billion to fossil fuels. This yields a split of 77 percent of energy subsidies going to renewables and 16 percent going to fossil fuels (the remainder go to nuclear and other energy types). Fossil fuels produced 80.8 quadrillion British thermal units of energy in 2022, while renewables produced 13.3 quadrillion—meaning that, on average, renewable energy is subsidized 29 times as much as fossil energy.

One's being phased in while the other's being phased out.

 

[Robert W]

One's being phased in while the other's being phased out.

Here Idaho our power supplier does not want to buy wind power to power us. Phased is the wrong word. It is forced by Democrats.

 

[Crick]

Here Idaho our power supplier does not want to buy wind power to power us. Phased is the wrong word. It is forced by Democrats.

WHO is forcing this?

Party control of Idaho state government

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Democrats haven't done jack shit in the state of Idaho for decades.