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You're lying again. Of course I have reason to believe that. The words, "Martin Luther coon," don't just slip out of someone's mouth unless it's something they're used to saying.Dumbfuck, you made that up. Deal with it. No one said he deliberately said that on the air. He said it slipped and I believe him. I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air.Who said it was deliberate? Now you’re making shit up.It is a matter of opinion that it was no accident just because racists use it as a common substitution to mock King. One doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the other. Again, you simply do not know.
You're only considering factors that fit your preconceived notion that it was deliberate. You're ignoring the fact that people flub their words every day. In fact, I am the only one here who has considered it or even brought it up.
This is not a simple case of someone saying "The shitty should..." instead of "The city should..." and everyone having a good laugh. A man's job was at stake.
And a large percentage of viewers could be wrong. If we didn't have the atmosphere of racism paranoia in this country right now, that same large percentage of viewers might have just laughed it off.
Put up with what? Did this guy have a history or reputation of racism? Have they had any kinds of problems with him before? If not then the station panicked and bowed to the paranoids. That's it.
I don't remember if I asked you but I know I have asked this question a few times already in this discussion and not one person has answered it. Question: Do you at least acknowledge the possibility that it was an innocent flub?
Your saying that it slipped out because he says it all the time is making shit up. So don't give me shit about making shit up. Shithead.
"I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air."
This is made-up bullshit. You have no basis on which to believe he says this all the time.
LOLOL"Whether I can or cannot is irrelevant. "Great, show me where someone slipped today and uttered a racist word accidentally.......Opinion.
Fact: He said "Martin Luther Coon" or something that sounded like it.
Fact: You have not ascertained malice or intent so it could have been accidental.
Fact: People make this sort of mistake every day.
Fact: You do not know this man or his character.
Whether I can or cannot is irrelevant. Even if I can't it is not proof that that is not what happened in this case.
You climb steps every day to or from your home or place of work with no problems. You've probably climbed the same flight of stairs for years without incident. But it only takes one time to misstep and fall. By your reasoning, if someone missteps and falls down a flight of stairs, this means that they must fall down these stairs all the time and furthermore, that they do it on purpose.
Your reasoning is flawed, your argument is flawed and your conclusions are flawed. On top of all that, the facts I cited are still facts and are indisputable. You still have not ascertained malice or intent and you still don't know the man or his character. Besides, everything is a racist word to you people these days. That is precisely why we are here talking about this.
If you can't, then you were making shit up again when you said it's a fact that someone does this sort of mistake every single day. You seem to have a penchant for making shit up.
I didn't say "someone" does it every day, I said people do this every day. What's more, you fucking well know it.
And falling down stairs is not racist. Who knows what you were thinking with that one?
I refuse to believe you are that fucking dense.
Dumbfuck .... "someone" isn't a person??
You can't show someone said something of that sort because yet again, you are caught making shit up.
You're dangerously stupid.LOLOLObama didn't slip. Obama actually believes there are 57 states. You and Obungo have one thing in common....you're both dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties.The funniest part about Obama saying 57 instead of 47....?It was about the states but DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, Samoa arent considered states and they cant vote for POTUS with the exception of DC. Obama had visited 47 of the continental states and had 1 more left to go.Obama was talking about how tiring the primary circuit was and all the states he had to visit55 what?
50 states, DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, Samoa
Guess it is 54 total
“… it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in fifty …. seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify it.”
-President Obama
.... it's the biggest Obama gaffe we hear from the moronic right. You know, the same folks who voted as many as 4 times for Bush -- the president who had calendars (plural) filled with his gaffes. Kind of like how they point to Obama lying about keeping your doctor .... as a defense for Trump lying 6 times a day, every day of every year, on average. They have absolutely no sense of self awareness.
At all.
And the racist weatherman is still fired.
Nope, he said “Martin Luther coon.” That’s racist.The station was right to fire him.The guy said, "Martin Luther coon." Why should anyone give such a slip a benefit of a doubt? That's not something that just slips off the tongue unless it's been used before.You're condemning this guy as racist based on an opinion.
Since the slightest thing can get you fired these days for being perceived as racism, don't you think we should take more care in leveling that sort of accusation?
The simple fact is: This guy could very well be innocent of the accusation of racism and it may very well have been a slip. This possibility remains regardless of your personal opinion. So, if he is in fact innocent, the atmosphere of racism paranoia that people like you have created in this country may have resulted in a man losing his job over a common linguistic flub. Give yourselves a hand.
Opinion. You are not a linguist or a phonetician or a speech expert so this is pure conjecture on your part. You do not have training or education in these fields to make the determination that this is not something that just slips off the tongue unless it's been used before.
Opinion.
Fact: He said "Martin Luther Coon" or something that sounded like it.
Fact: You have not ascertained malice or intent so it could have been accidental.
Fact: People make this sort of mistake every day.
Fact: You do not know this man or his character.
That he said that on the air and it could damage the station's brand is plenty cause enough to fire him.
Nope, he said “Martin Luther coon.” That’s racist.The station was right to fire him.The guy said, "Martin Luther coon." Why should anyone give such a slip a benefit of a doubt? That's not something that just slips off the tongue unless it's been used before.
Opinion. You are not a linguist or a phonetician or a speech expert so this is pure conjecture on your part. You do not have training or education in these fields to make the determination that this is not something that just slips off the tongue unless it's been used before.
Opinion.
Fact: He said "Martin Luther Coon" or something that sounded like it.
Fact: You have not ascertained malice or intent so it could have been accidental.
Fact: People make this sort of mistake every day.
Fact: You do not know this man or his character.
That he said that on the air and it could damage the station's brand is plenty cause enough to fire him.
I haven't said a thing about his being fired other than when someone mentioned it to me. I know the station fired him and I know why the station fired him.
What I'm doing here in this discussion is questioning and pointing out the flaws in the reasoning behind the conclusions of those here who think he's racist and that he said it deliberately or that it slipped out because he says it all the time in private.
Their conclusions do not take other mitigating factors into account such as the fact that people in general flub words every day, including those here who deem him guilty; or the fact that not one of those here saying he's guilty know a thing about this man or his character; or that he himself already explained that it was an honest flub because he was talking too fast and got ahead of himself.
There are no obvious parallels. Your comparison is weak sauce. Now if you can get an instant where Obama slipped up and called someone a honky on TV then you would have a comparison. You don't accidentally call someone a racial slur. That like telling a wife or girlfriend that you accidentally had sex with someone.Its amusing youre trying to equate someone saying a racial slur with someone being tired and saying 57 states instead of 47.He was confused over the number of primaries he had to participate in and visitWhy would you feel sorry for Obama saying there were 57 states? I dont feel sorry for him. Saying there are 57 states is at most a funny fuck up.
I dont know if he has said something similar in public before. I do know he got caught saying "coon" on TV though. One time is enough for me to agree with firing his stupid ass.
I would feel sorry for Obama because, applying your standard, it would be proof that he's ignorant about the basic structure of the US. And no, you can't say he showed he wasn't stupid other times, because you have no interest in whether this guy has ever said anything similar.
Very few people actually know
I know he's not stupid and I know he doesn't think we have 57 states. That's the point. We have the usual suspects ready to tar and feather one man for a statement (and not giving a flying rat's patoot if he's actually guilty or not) while giving every excuse in the book for another who also said something odd.
It's amusing that you're trying to avoid the obvious parallels by pretending that's what I'm doing.
Who did Biden call a coon? BTW the racist got fired and thats that.Nope, he said “Martin Luther coon.” That’s racist.The station was right to fire him.Opinion. You are not a linguist or a phonetician or a speech expert so this is pure conjecture on your part. You do not have training or education in these fields to make the determination that this is not something that just slips off the tongue unless it's been used before.
Opinion.
Fact: He said "Martin Luther Coon" or something that sounded like it.
Fact: You have not ascertained malice or intent so it could have been accidental.
Fact: People make this sort of mistake every day.
Fact: You do not know this man or his character.
That he said that on the air and it could damage the station's brand is plenty cause enough to fire him.
I haven't said a thing about his being fired other than when someone mentioned it to me. I know the station fired him and I know why the station fired him.
What I'm doing here in this discussion is questioning and pointing out the flaws in the reasoning behind the conclusions of those here who think he's racist and that he said it deliberately or that it slipped out because he says it all the time in private.
Their conclusions do not take other mitigating factors into account such as the fact that people in general flub words every day, including those here who deem him guilty; or the fact that not one of those here saying he's guilty know a thing about this man or his character; or that he himself already explained that it was an honest flub because he was talking too fast and got ahead of himself.
The guy's been recorded many times saying many things. Has he ever said anything like this before?
One does have to wonder if those figuratively demanding this guy's head were as outraged at Joe Biden:s racist comments or if political party affiliation provides cover from such things?
Who did Biden call a coon? BTW the racist got fired and thats that.Nope, he said “Martin Luther coon.” That’s racist.The station was right to fire him.
Opinion.
Fact: He said "Martin Luther Coon" or something that sounded like it.
Fact: You have not ascertained malice or intent so it could have been accidental.
Fact: People make this sort of mistake every day.
Fact: You do not know this man or his character.
That he said that on the air and it could damage the station's brand is plenty cause enough to fire him.
I haven't said a thing about his being fired other than when someone mentioned it to me. I know the station fired him and I know why the station fired him.
What I'm doing here in this discussion is questioning and pointing out the flaws in the reasoning behind the conclusions of those here who think he's racist and that he said it deliberately or that it slipped out because he says it all the time in private.
Their conclusions do not take other mitigating factors into account such as the fact that people in general flub words every day, including those here who deem him guilty; or the fact that not one of those here saying he's guilty know a thing about this man or his character; or that he himself already explained that it was an honest flub because he was talking too fast and got ahead of himself.
The guy's been recorded many times saying many things. Has he ever said anything like this before?
One does have to wonder if those figuratively demanding this guy's head were as outraged at Joe Biden:s racist comments or if political party affiliation provides cover from such things?
Of course you political affiliation and who you are provides cover. That's the point of this thread. Democrats can say anything and are automatically forgiven. Hillary made a mistake on the name of a black man and when corrected she said "Oh, they all look the same". People laughed. The media never said a word.Nope, he said “Martin Luther coon.” That’s racist.The station was right to fire him.Opinion. You are not a linguist or a phonetician or a speech expert so this is pure conjecture on your part. You do not have training or education in these fields to make the determination that this is not something that just slips off the tongue unless it's been used before.
Opinion.
Fact: He said "Martin Luther Coon" or something that sounded like it.
Fact: You have not ascertained malice or intent so it could have been accidental.
Fact: People make this sort of mistake every day.
Fact: You do not know this man or his character.
That he said that on the air and it could damage the station's brand is plenty cause enough to fire him.
I haven't said a thing about his being fired other than when someone mentioned it to me. I know the station fired him and I know why the station fired him.
What I'm doing here in this discussion is questioning and pointing out the flaws in the reasoning behind the conclusions of those here who think he's racist and that he said it deliberately or that it slipped out because he says it all the time in private.
Their conclusions do not take other mitigating factors into account such as the fact that people in general flub words every day, including those here who deem him guilty; or the fact that not one of those here saying he's guilty know a thing about this man or his character; or that he himself already explained that it was an honest flub because he was talking too fast and got ahead of himself.
The guy's been recorded many times saying many things. Has he ever said anything like this before?
One does have to wonder if those figuratively demanding this guy's head were as outraged at Joe Biden:s racist comments or if political party affiliation provides cover from such things?
“Rhymes with ‘coon’”You're lying again. Of course I have reason to believe that. The words, "Martin Luther coon," don't just slip out of someone's mouth unless it's something they're used to saying.Dumbfuck, you made that up. Deal with it. No one said he deliberately said that on the air. He said it slipped and I believe him. I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air.Who said it was deliberate? Now you’re making shit up.
Your saying that it slipped out because he says it all the time is making shit up. So don't give me shit about making shit up. Shithead.
"I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air."
This is made-up bullshit. You have no basis on which to believe he says this all the time.
Wrong. The problem with your conclusion is manifold:
1.) Though you may be right, it does not mean you are or that it's the only possibility.
2.) You do not have training in the physics of speech to make that determination.
3.) The words "King" and "Junior", when run together could very well conceivably come out as "Kune" which rhymes with "coon". A possibility that either never occurred to you or you simply ignored in your mindless quest to make this guy racist.
LOLOLLOLOL"Whether I can or cannot is irrelevant. "Great, show me where someone slipped today and uttered a racist word accidentally.......
Whether I can or cannot is irrelevant. Even if I can't it is not proof that that is not what happened in this case.
You climb steps every day to or from your home or place of work with no problems. You've probably climbed the same flight of stairs for years without incident. But it only takes one time to misstep and fall. By your reasoning, if someone missteps and falls down a flight of stairs, this means that they must fall down these stairs all the time and furthermore, that they do it on purpose.
Your reasoning is flawed, your argument is flawed and your conclusions are flawed. On top of all that, the facts I cited are still facts and are indisputable. You still have not ascertained malice or intent and you still don't know the man or his character. Besides, everything is a racist word to you people these days. That is precisely why we are here talking about this.
If you can't, then you were making shit up again when you said it's a fact that someone does this sort of mistake every single day. You seem to have a penchant for making shit up.
I didn't say "someone" does it every day, I said people do this every day. What's more, you fucking well know it.
And falling down stairs is not racist. Who knows what you were thinking with that one?
I refuse to believe you are that fucking dense.
Dumbfuck .... "someone" isn't a person??
You can't show someone said something of that sort because yet again, you are caught making shit up.
"Someone" implies an individual. I meant people in general. In any case, "someone" is not the word I used so that means you misquoted me. In other words, you made shit up.
Have you even graduated high school yet? If you have, how in the name of all that is sane and orderly did you manage that?
Gee, that really hurts coming from you.You're dangerously stupid.LOLOLObama didn't slip. Obama actually believes there are 57 states. You and Obungo have one thing in common....you're both dumber than an empty box of Post Toasties.The funniest part about Obama saying 57 instead of 47....?It was about the states but DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, Samoa arent considered states and they cant vote for POTUS with the exception of DC. Obama had visited 47 of the continental states and had 1 more left to go.Obama was talking about how tiring the primary circuit was and all the states he had to visit
50 states, DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, Samoa
Guess it is 54 total
“… it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in fifty …. seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify it.”
-President Obama
.... it's the biggest Obama gaffe we hear from the moronic right. You know, the same folks who voted as many as 4 times for Bush -- the president who had calendars (plural) filled with his gaffes. Kind of like how they point to Obama lying about keeping your doctor .... as a defense for Trump lying 6 times a day, every day of every year, on average. They have absolutely no sense of self awareness.
At all.
And the racist weatherman is still fired.
You're the racist around here. Anyone that uses race for profit or advantage is a racist, and you're a typical leftist race hustler.“Rhymes with ‘coon’”You're lying again. Of course I have reason to believe that. The words, "Martin Luther coon," don't just slip out of someone's mouth unless it's something they're used to saying.Dumbfuck, you made that up. Deal with it. No one said he deliberately said that on the air. He said it slipped and I believe him. I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air.Your saying that it slipped out because he says it all the time is making shit up. So don't give me shit about making shit up. Shithead.
"I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air."
This is made-up bullshit. You have no basis on which to believe he says this all the time.
Wrong. The problem with your conclusion is manifold:
1.) Though you may be right, it does not mean you are or that it's the only possibility.
2.) You do not have training in the physics of speech to make that determination.
3.) The words "King" and "Junior", when run together could very well conceivably come out as "Kune" which rhymes with "coon". A possibility that either never occurred to you or you simply ignored in your mindless quest to make this guy racist.
Cracks me up how virtually every time I see someone leap to the defense of a racist, it another rightarded racist.
No, dumbfuck, it didn’t rhyme with “coon,” it was “coon.”
LOLYou're the racist around here. Anyone that uses race for profit or advantage is a racist, and you're a typical leftist race hustler.“Rhymes with ‘coon’”You're lying again. Of course I have reason to believe that. The words, "Martin Luther coon," don't just slip out of someone's mouth unless it's something they're used to saying.Dumbfuck, you made that up. Deal with it. No one said he deliberately said that on the air. He said it slipped and I believe him. I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air.
"I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air."
This is made-up bullshit. You have no basis on which to believe he says this all the time.
Wrong. The problem with your conclusion is manifold:
1.) Though you may be right, it does not mean you are or that it's the only possibility.
2.) You do not have training in the physics of speech to make that determination.
3.) The words "King" and "Junior", when run together could very well conceivably come out as "Kune" which rhymes with "coon". A possibility that either never occurred to you or you simply ignored in your mindless quest to make this guy racist.
Cracks me up how virtually every time I see someone leap to the defense of a racist, it another rightarded racist.
No, dumbfuck, it didn’t rhyme with “coon,” it was “coon.”
“Rhymes with ‘coon’”You're lying again. Of course I have reason to believe that. The words, "Martin Luther coon," don't just slip out of someone's mouth unless it's something they're used to saying.Dumbfuck, you made that up. Deal with it. No one said he deliberately said that on the air. He said it slipped and I believe him. I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air.Your saying that it slipped out because he says it all the time is making shit up. So don't give me shit about making shit up. Shithead.
"I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air."
This is made-up bullshit. You have no basis on which to believe he says this all the time.
Wrong. The problem with your conclusion is manifold:
1.) Though you may be right, it does not mean you are or that it's the only possibility.
2.) You do not have training in the physics of speech to make that determination.
3.) The words "King" and "Junior", when run together could very well conceivably come out as "Kune" which rhymes with "coon". A possibility that either never occurred to you or you simply ignored in your mindless quest to make this guy racist.
Cracks me up how virtually every time I see someone leap to the defense of a racist, it another rightarded racist.
No, dumbfuck, it didn’t rhyme with “coon,” it was “coon.”
LOLOL“Rhymes with ‘coon’”You're lying again. Of course I have reason to believe that. The words, "Martin Luther coon," don't just slip out of someone's mouth unless it's something they're used to saying.Dumbfuck, you made that up. Deal with it. No one said he deliberately said that on the air. He said it slipped and I believe him. I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air.
"I also believe it's a phrase he uses which is why it slipped out while he was on the air."
This is made-up bullshit. You have no basis on which to believe he says this all the time.
Wrong. The problem with your conclusion is manifold:
1.) Though you may be right, it does not mean you are or that it's the only possibility.
2.) You do not have training in the physics of speech to make that determination.
3.) The words "King" and "Junior", when run together could very well conceivably come out as "Kune" which rhymes with "coon". A possibility that either never occurred to you or you simply ignored in your mindless quest to make this guy racist.
Cracks me up how virtually every time I see someone leap to the defense of a racist, it another rightarded racist.
No, dumbfuck, it didn’t rhyme with “coon,” it was “coon.”
Not because you say so.
There are no obvious parallels. Your comparison is weak sauce. Now if you can get an instant where Obama slipped up and called someone a honky on TV then you would have a comparison. You don't accidentally call someone a racial slur. That like telling a wife or girlfriend that you accidentally had sex with someone.Its amusing youre trying to equate someone saying a racial slur with someone being tired and saying 57 states instead of 47.He was confused over the number of primaries he had to participate in and visitI would feel sorry for Obama because, applying your standard, it would be proof that he's ignorant about the basic structure of the US. And no, you can't say he showed he wasn't stupid other times, because you have no interest in whether this guy has ever said anything similar.
Very few people actually know
I know he's not stupid and I know he doesn't think we have 57 states. That's the point. We have the usual suspects ready to tar and feather one man for a statement (and not giving a flying rat's patoot if he's actually guilty or not) while giving every excuse in the book for another who also said something odd.
It's amusing that you're trying to avoid the obvious parallels by pretending that's what I'm doing.
Who did Biden call a coon? BTW the racist got fired and thats that.Nope, he said “Martin Luther coon.” That’s racist.The station was right to fire him.
Opinion.
Fact: He said "Martin Luther Coon" or something that sounded like it.
Fact: You have not ascertained malice or intent so it could have been accidental.
Fact: People make this sort of mistake every day.
Fact: You do not know this man or his character.
That he said that on the air and it could damage the station's brand is plenty cause enough to fire him.
I haven't said a thing about his being fired other than when someone mentioned it to me. I know the station fired him and I know why the station fired him.
What I'm doing here in this discussion is questioning and pointing out the flaws in the reasoning behind the conclusions of those here who think he's racist and that he said it deliberately or that it slipped out because he says it all the time in private.
Their conclusions do not take other mitigating factors into account such as the fact that people in general flub words every day, including those here who deem him guilty; or the fact that not one of those here saying he's guilty know a thing about this man or his character; or that he himself already explained that it was an honest flub because he was talking too fast and got ahead of himself.
The guy's been recorded many times saying many things. Has he ever said anything like this before?
One does have to wonder if those figuratively demanding this guy's head were as outraged at Joe Biden:s racist comments or if political party affiliation provides cover from such things?
LOLOLLOLOL"Whether I can or cannot is irrelevant. "Whether I can or cannot is irrelevant. Even if I can't it is not proof that that is not what happened in this case.
You climb steps every day to or from your home or place of work with no problems. You've probably climbed the same flight of stairs for years without incident. But it only takes one time to misstep and fall. By your reasoning, if someone missteps and falls down a flight of stairs, this means that they must fall down these stairs all the time and furthermore, that they do it on purpose.
Your reasoning is flawed, your argument is flawed and your conclusions are flawed. On top of all that, the facts I cited are still facts and are indisputable. You still have not ascertained malice or intent and you still don't know the man or his character. Besides, everything is a racist word to you people these days. That is precisely why we are here talking about this.
If you can't, then you were making shit up again when you said it's a fact that someone does this sort of mistake every single day. You seem to have a penchant for making shit up.
I didn't say "someone" does it every day, I said people do this every day. What's more, you fucking well know it.
And falling down stairs is not racist. Who knows what you were thinking with that one?
I refuse to believe you are that fucking dense.
Dumbfuck .... "someone" isn't a person??
You can't show someone said something of that sort because yet again, you are caught making shit up.
"Someone" implies an individual. I meant people in general. In any case, "someone" is not the word I used so that means you misquoted me. In other words, you made shit up.
Have you even graduated high school yet? If you have, how in the name of all that is sane and orderly did you manage that?
You said people do stuff like that every day. So prove it.
And a person is someone. If you’re not talking about someone, who or what are you talking about?
