Weisselberg Indicted

[colfax_m]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

 

[bripat9643]

That's from reading the indictment. Wait until a good defense attorney has at this.

receipts prove transactions, not intentions.

Yeah, I know. Rich people don’t get convicted because the can afford good attorneys. God bless the USA.

There’s no argument to be made here. They knew it was compensation. That’s why they reduced his compensation at the same time as paying for his tax free shit.

They also tend to commit crimes, or be accused of crimes that are more "what happened" than "who did it"

Murder is murder. all you have to do is prove who killed the person. This is tax law, and not only do you have to prove that what happened happened, but the person doing it knew what they were doing was criminal, and not just bad accounting or misunderstanding tax law.

And you have to prove it to a jury.

You don't keep a second set of books on it, if you didn't KNOW what you were doing...

So they have both sets of books?

according to item 19 on page 13, yes.

it doesn't refer to two sets of books, it says they think there was fraud in reporting.

Now they get to prove it.

Good luck lol.

oy vey. of course the indictment refers exactly that. by comparing both data sets they found the discrepancies leading to this indictment. this is not hard to understand, for non-trumptards.

What "both" data sets? There's only one data set, moron.

the one reported externally, and the one kept internally. i know this is hard for you to understand. but it is spelled out beautifully in the indictment.

The indictment says nothing of the kind. You simply read your prejudices into what was said.

no one is surprised that you cannot understand the simple written word. it was posted for you, it was explained to you. but you cannot grasp it.

that's a YOU problem.

ROFL! I do understand it. Please quote where it says Trump had two sets of books, and don't copy and past all of page 13.

 

[L.K.Eder]

That's from reading the indictment. Wait until a good defense attorney has at this.

receipts prove transactions, not intentions.

Yeah, I know. Rich people don’t get convicted because the can afford good attorneys. God bless the USA.

There’s no argument to be made here. They knew it was compensation. That’s why they reduced his compensation at the same time as paying for his tax free shit.

They also tend to commit crimes, or be accused of crimes that are more "what happened" than "who did it"

Murder is murder. all you have to do is prove who killed the person. This is tax law, and not only do you have to prove that what happened happened, but the person doing it knew what they were doing was criminal, and not just bad accounting or misunderstanding tax law.

And you have to prove it to a jury.

You don't keep a second set of books on it, if you didn't KNOW what you were doing...

So they have both sets of books?

according to item 19 on page 13, yes.

it doesn't refer to two sets of books, it says they think there was fraud in reporting.

Now they get to prove it.

Good luck lol.

oy vey. of course the indictment refers exactly that. by comparing both data sets they found the discrepancies leading to this indictment. this is not hard to understand, for non-trumptards.

They think they found it, lets see what the defense does to it.

you finally learned to understand the indictment, at least with regard to the two sets of books. baby steps, baby steps.

There are no book sets, the accusation doesn't explicitly state that.

aw. and i had such high hopes for you.

time for your nap, fat boy.

WE have no hope that you will ever commit logic, NAZI.

19. Weisselberg’s authorized annual compensation at all relevant times was fixed at a number certain. For example, from 2011 through 2018, his compensation was fixed at $940,000, to be comprised of $540,000 in base salary and $400,000 in end-of-year bonus. However, at Weisselberg’s direction, the Trump Organization excluded from his reported gross income the amounts that were paid to him indirectly in the form of rent paid on his New York City apartment, tuition paid on his behalf to his family members’ private school, the automobile expenses paid in connection with his and his wife’s personal cars, and the other items described above. Weisselberg, received the benefit of these payments, and the Trump Organization internally tracked and treated many of them as part of his authorized annual compensation, ensuring that he was not paid more than his pre-authorized, fixed amount of gross compensation. However, the corporate defendants falsified other compensation records so that the indirect compensation payments were not reflected in Weisselberg's reported gross income. Therefore, the W-2 forms and other compensation records reported to federal, state, and local tax authorities fraudulently understated the income that the Trump Organization had paid Weisselberg. Weisselberg included the falsified information set forth on his W-2 forms when he filed his personal income tax returns.

 

[martybegan]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

 

[colfax_m]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

 

[martybegan]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

And some DA's think politics trumps (lol) actually doing their fucking job. "Who cares if murders are up, WE GOTTA GET TRUMP!!!!"

The other thing is something like this usually comes out of the State Attorney's office, or the IRS/DOJ itself.

Coming from a county DA in a county/city run by TDS dems just reinforces the viewpoint of this being a political hack job.

 

[Winco]

You're saying people deserve to go to prison simply because Trump decided to run for president?

Reading comprehension.
Get some.
Or continue to expose the idiot that you truly are.

I said.........

Trump opened this can of worms.
Had trump just continued living his crime filled life and kept out of the spotlight, you are correct, this never would have happened to him. BUT, he himself, POKED the BEAR......constantly, so they are fighting back.
They are not fighting back in the way YOU look at it though, as a witch hunt.
They are going after a criminal that constantly flaunted his crimes in public.

Trump brought this upon himself.
This is a well deserved and rightful set of indictments, and future indictments.

 

[colfax_m]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

And some DA's think politics trumps (lol) actually doing their fucking job. "Who cares if murders are up, WE GOTTA GET TRUMP!!!!"

The other thing is something like this usually comes out of the State Attorney's office, or the IRS/DOJ itself.

Coming from a county DA in a county/city run by TDS dems just reinforces the viewpoint of this being a political hack job.

Yeah, this is the kind of bullshit excuse making that hacks like yourself do.

As if we can’t prosecute tax fraud unless ever murderer is caught first. Tax fraud is widespread and the sooner we crack down on it, the better.

 

[Nostra]

Nope. It doesn't directly quote Trump. It relies on what other say he said, Clown.

So you’re going to accuse of lying under penalty of perjury?

I thought it was just an “opinion” piece.

Trump operates like a mobster.

Your leftist opinion writer is under oath?

 

[martybegan]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

And some DA's think politics trumps (lol) actually doing their fucking job. "Who cares if murders are up, WE GOTTA GET TRUMP!!!!"

The other thing is something like this usually comes out of the State Attorney's office, or the IRS/DOJ itself.

Coming from a county DA in a county/city run by TDS dems just reinforces the viewpoint of this being a political hack job.

Yeah, this is the kind of bullshit excuse making that hacks like yourself do.

As if we can’t prosecute tax fraud unless ever murderer is caught first. Tax fraud is widespread and the sooner we crack down on it, the better.

What bullshit? Usually things like this come at the State Attorney/US Attorney level, a county DA in NYC doing it is not common.

Day to day crimes are the local DA's scope of work, and idiots like Vance don't feel like prosecuting petty criminals because of progressive bullshit.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

will any competent attorney be willing to take this case? maybe rudy can get his suspension lifted and get to work. lol

 

[colfax_m]

Nope. It doesn't directly quote Trump. It relies on what other say he said, Clown.

So you’re going to accuse of lying under penalty of perjury?

I thought it was just an “opinion” piece.

Trump operates like a mobster.

Your leftist opinion writer is under oath?

No. McGhan was under penalty of perjury when he told Mueller about Trump’s distaste for keeping a record.

The article pulled quotes from the Mueller report.

Dope.

 

[colfax_m]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

And some DA's think politics trumps (lol) actually doing their fucking job. "Who cares if murders are up, WE GOTTA GET TRUMP!!!!"

The other thing is something like this usually comes out of the State Attorney's office, or the IRS/DOJ itself.

Coming from a county DA in a county/city run by TDS dems just reinforces the viewpoint of this being a political hack job.

Yeah, this is the kind of bullshit excuse making that hacks like yourself do.

As if we can’t prosecute tax fraud unless ever murderer is caught first. Tax fraud is widespread and the sooner we crack down on it, the better.

What bullshit? Usually things like this come at the State Attorney/US Attorney level, a county DA in NYC doing it is not common.

Day to day crimes are the local DA's scope of work, and idiots like Vance don't feel like prosecuting petty criminals because of progressive bullshit.

It’s bullshit excuse making.

Like how dare they go after people committing tax fraud on a scale of hundreds of thousands of dollars when they could be prosecuting people for petty crimes.

 

[Nostra]

Nope. It doesn't directly quote Trump. It relies on what other say he said, Clown.

So you’re going to accuse of lying under penalty of perjury?

I thought it was just an “opinion” piece.

Trump operates like a mobster.

Your leftist opinion writer is under oath?

No. McGhan was under penalty of perjury when he told Mueller about Trump’s distaste for keeping a record.

The article pulled quotes from the Mueller report.

Dope.

So, hearsay from a Trump hater is all ya got.

Cool, Clown.

 

[martybegan]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

will any competent attorney be willing to take this case? maybe rudy can get his suspension lifted and get to work. lol

Are you actually cheering someone not being able to find competent counsel?

 

[martybegan]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

And some DA's think politics trumps (lol) actually doing their fucking job. "Who cares if murders are up, WE GOTTA GET TRUMP!!!!"

The other thing is something like this usually comes out of the State Attorney's office, or the IRS/DOJ itself.

Coming from a county DA in a county/city run by TDS dems just reinforces the viewpoint of this being a political hack job.

Yeah, this is the kind of bullshit excuse making that hacks like yourself do.

As if we can’t prosecute tax fraud unless ever murderer is caught first. Tax fraud is widespread and the sooner we crack down on it, the better.

What bullshit? Usually things like this come at the State Attorney/US Attorney level, a county DA in NYC doing it is not common.

Day to day crimes are the local DA's scope of work, and idiots like Vance don't feel like prosecuting petty criminals because of progressive bullshit.

It’s bullshit excuse making.

Like how dare they go after people committing tax fraud on a scale of hundreds of thousands of dollars when they could be prosecuting people for petty crimes.

It's not petty when it's your shit getting boosted, or your store closing down because the shoplifting makes the margins too small to stay open.

And letting petty crime explode leads to larger crimes happening.

But letting murder rates climb is OK as long as the DA is woke enough....

 

[colfax_m]

So, hearsay from a Trump hater is all ya got.

Trump acts like a mob boss. Doesn’t want anything in writing. He doesn’t write emails. He conducts his business by phone.

He’s learned how to get away with shit.

 

[colfax_m]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

And some DA's think politics trumps (lol) actually doing their fucking job. "Who cares if murders are up, WE GOTTA GET TRUMP!!!!"

The other thing is something like this usually comes out of the State Attorney's office, or the IRS/DOJ itself.

Coming from a county DA in a county/city run by TDS dems just reinforces the viewpoint of this being a political hack job.

Yeah, this is the kind of bullshit excuse making that hacks like yourself do.

As if we can’t prosecute tax fraud unless ever murderer is caught first. Tax fraud is widespread and the sooner we crack down on it, the better.

What bullshit? Usually things like this come at the State Attorney/US Attorney level, a county DA in NYC doing it is not common.

Day to day crimes are the local DA's scope of work, and idiots like Vance don't feel like prosecuting petty criminals because of progressive bullshit.

It’s bullshit excuse making.

Like how dare they go after people committing tax fraud on a scale of hundreds of thousands of dollars when they could be prosecuting people for petty crimes.

It's not petty when it's your shit getting boosted, or your store closing down because the shoplifting makes the margins too small to stay open.

And letting petty crime explode leads to larger crimes happening.

But letting murder rates climb is OK as long as the DA is woke enough....

Yep. And letting tax criminals slide also invites larger crimes.

That’s why these guys need to be prosecuted, not given a slap on the wrist.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

will any competent attorney be willing to take this case? maybe rudy can get his suspension lifted and get to work. lol

Are you actually cheering someone not being able to find competent counsel?

bwahahahaha. i hope you never left your fainting couch, pearl clutching cuck soiboi.

 

[martybegan]

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

He hasn’t. Some rich assholes really think they’re above the law. And they also think that if they’re caught they’ll just pay a fine. The people who are making excuses for this are part of the problem.

And some DA's think politics trumps (lol) actually doing their fucking job. "Who cares if murders are up, WE GOTTA GET TRUMP!!!!"

The other thing is something like this usually comes out of the State Attorney's office, or the IRS/DOJ itself.

Coming from a county DA in a county/city run by TDS dems just reinforces the viewpoint of this being a political hack job.

Yeah, this is the kind of bullshit excuse making that hacks like yourself do.

As if we can’t prosecute tax fraud unless ever murderer is caught first. Tax fraud is widespread and the sooner we crack down on it, the better.

What bullshit? Usually things like this come at the State Attorney/US Attorney level, a county DA in NYC doing it is not common.

Day to day crimes are the local DA's scope of work, and idiots like Vance don't feel like prosecuting petty criminals because of progressive bullshit.

It’s bullshit excuse making.

Like how dare they go after people committing tax fraud on a scale of hundreds of thousands of dollars when they could be prosecuting people for petty crimes.

It's not petty when it's your shit getting boosted, or your store closing down because the shoplifting makes the margins too small to stay open.

And letting petty crime explode leads to larger crimes happening.

But letting murder rates climb is OK as long as the DA is woke enough....

Yep. And letting tax criminals slide also invites larger crimes.

That’s why these guys need to be prosecuted, not given a slap on the wrist.

Tax criminals or people who didn't file their taxes properly? Or more to the point people who someone says didn't file their taxes properly.

The Manhattan DA is not a tax attorney, and they don't specialize in tax prosecutions. That would be the Feds and the State Attorney General.

Some guy boosting my flat screen is far more cut and dry than someone didn't put the proper value in form G-233 page 5 section 12 in 2012, and thus made an error on said form page 8 section 15 going forward the next 10 years.