Weisselberg Indicted

[bripat9643]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

will any competent attorney be willing to take this case? maybe rudy can get his suspension lifted and get to work. lol

Are you actually cheering someone not being able to find competent counsel?

bwahahahaha. i hope you never left your fainting couch, pearl clutching cuck soiboi.

Answer the question.

Does this guy deserve proper defense representation or not?

you have no business telling anyone what to do, fucktard.

it's his problem if his fat fucking troll boss has burned bridges with competent lawyers.

He didn't burn any bridges, douchebag. The left threatened them if they worked for Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

That's from reading the indictment. Wait until a good defense attorney has at this.

receipts prove transactions, not intentions.

Yeah, I know. Rich people don’t get convicted because the can afford good attorneys. God bless the USA.

There’s no argument to be made here. They knew it was compensation. That’s why they reduced his compensation at the same time as paying for his tax free shit.

They also tend to commit crimes, or be accused of crimes that are more "what happened" than "who did it"

Murder is murder. all you have to do is prove who killed the person. This is tax law, and not only do you have to prove that what happened happened, but the person doing it knew what they were doing was criminal, and not just bad accounting or misunderstanding tax law.

And you have to prove it to a jury.

You don't keep a second set of books on it, if you didn't KNOW what you were doing...

So they have both sets of books?

according to item 19 on page 13, yes.

it doesn't refer to two sets of books, it says they think there was fraud in reporting.

Now they get to prove it.

Good luck lol.

oy vey. of course the indictment refers exactly that. by comparing both data sets they found the discrepancies leading to this indictment. this is not hard to understand, for non-trumptards.

They think they found it, lets see what the defense does to it.

you finally learned to understand the indictment, at least with regard to the two sets of books. baby steps, baby steps.

There are no book sets, the accusation doesn't explicitly state that.

aw. and i had such high hopes for you.

time for your nap, fat boy.

WE have no hope that you will ever commit logic, NAZI.

19. Weisselberg’s authorized annual compensation at all relevant times was fixed at a number certain. For example, from 2011 through 2018, his compensation was fixed at $940,000, to be comprised of $540,000 in base salary and $400,000 in end-of-year bonus. However, at Weisselberg’s direction, the Trump Organization excluded from his reported gross income the amounts that were paid to him indirectly in the form of rent paid on his New York City apartment, tuition paid on his behalf to his family members’ private school, the automobile expenses paid in connection with his and his wife’s personal cars, and the other items described above. Weisselberg, received the benefit of these payments, and the Trump Organization internally tracked and treated many of them as part of his authorized annual compensation, ensuring that he was not paid more than his pre-authorized, fixed amount of gross compensation. However, the corporate defendants falsified other compensation records so that the indirect compensation payments were not reflected in Weisselberg's reported gross income. Therefore, the W-2 forms and other compensation records reported to federal, state, and local tax authorities fraudulently understated the income that the Trump Organization had paid Weisselberg. Weisselberg included the falsified information set forth on his W-2 forms when he filed his personal income tax returns.

No, they didn't turd. They were not treated as part of his compensation. Otherwise they would have appeared on his W2 or his 1099. The Trump organization has not been accused of falsifying anything, moron. The only question at issue here is whether those items should have appeared on his W2 or 1099.

your track record of being always wrong, obtuse, and obese remains intact.

Your track record for being a dumbass remains intact.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

will any competent attorney be willing to take this case? maybe rudy can get his suspension lifted and get to work. lol

Are you actually cheering someone not being able to find competent counsel?

bwahahahaha. i hope you never left your fainting couch, pearl clutching cuck soiboi.

Answer the question.

Does this guy deserve proper defense representation or not?

you have no business telling anyone what to do, fucktard.

it's his problem if his fat fucking troll boss has burned bridges with competent lawyers.

He didn't burn any bridges, douchebag. The left threatened them if they worked for Trump.

you are totally divorced from decency, reality, and a non-obese BMI.

 

[colfax_m]

Futhermore, nothing Vance accuses Trump employees of is a crime.

Tax fraud isn't a crime?

It is. It very much is.

 

[bripat9643]

Plenty is legal when it comes to deductions as long as you frame them the right way. That's how accounting works.

Plenty is legal. This ain’t it.

Keep up the excuses. It just makes you look more and more obsequious.

We will see. If Vance over-reached any competent defense attorney will shred his ass.

will any competent attorney be willing to take this case? maybe rudy can get his suspension lifted and get to work. lol

Are you actually cheering someone not being able to find competent counsel?

bwahahahaha. i hope you never left your fainting couch, pearl clutching cuck soiboi.

Answer the question.

Does this guy deserve proper defense representation or not?

you have no business telling anyone what to do, fucktard.

it's his problem if his fat fucking troll boss has burned bridges with competent lawyers.

He didn't burn any bridges, douchebag. The left threatened them if they worked for Trump.

you are totally divorced from decency, reality, and a non-obese BMI.

Hmmmm . . . no. How does any of that describe the left?

 

[colfax_m]

All it takes is the ability to read your link to see you have no quote from anyone giving testimony using "mob boss". All you have is the description your leftist opinion piece writer came up with.

And you have no argument to counter that characterization.

Because you lack critical thinking.

 

[bripat9643]

Futhermore, nothing Vance accuses Trump employees of is a crime.

Tax fraud isn't a crime?

It is. It very much is.

I haven't seen an evidence of tax fraud at this point.

 

[Nostra]

All it takes is the ability to read your link to see you have no quote from anyone giving testimony using "mob boss". All you have is the description your leftist opinion piece writer came up with.

And you have no argument to counter that characterization.

Because you lack critical thinking.

Oooooooooooooooh...................now it is a "characterization. A while ago it was TESTIMONY.

You are a Clown.

 

[colfax_m]

Oooooooooooooooh...................now it is a "characterization. A while ago it was TESTIMONY.

Trump operates like a mob boss. Doesn't take notes. Doesn't want anything in writing.

That's how mob bosses operate. The dude is a fraud.

 

[colfax_m]

I haven't seen an evidence of tax fraud at this point.

You wouldn't understand it even if you did.

The trial will be interesting.

 

[struth]

To convict the entire organzation they must show it was organizational wide

What does that mean?

It might help you to read Arthur Anderson LLP v. United States 544 U.S. 696 (2005

How would that help? It’s about jury instructions and there hasn’t been a trial yet.

it’s the law. It provides what the law is and what needs to be shown to convict the entire organization.

geez

wow. one could almost get the impression that you have no fucking clue what you are queefing about.

Just the law, reading Arthur Anderson v. United States...it was a 9-0 decision. The court found that to find there has to be showing that the firm knew it was breaking the law.

In the indictment here...Vance is saying that the CFO (who's also indicted for not claiming fringe benefits as value on his taxes), directed folks to not say that said fringe benefits were his actual compensation.

Not sure how you convict the entire firm, in that situation

 

[lantern2814]

Yeah, it is just $1.7 million in tax evasion. Its not like Weiselberg tried to pass a counterfit $20 or was selling individual cigarettes on a street corner.

Still a civil matter, not criminal. No matter how much you praise black criminals.

Leona Helmsley

Charges brought by one Rudolph W. Giuliani, then the U.S. attorney for Manhattan. Charges on which she was convicted — and served 18 months.

So let’s hear nothing, not a word, about the supposed unfairness of the indictment a New York state grand jury handed up on Thursday of the Trump Organization and its former chief financial officer on tax fraud charges, the details of which sound positively Helmsley-esque.
The “Queen of Mean” evaded $1.2 million in taxes by charging personal expenses, including renovations of her Connecticut estate, to the Helmsley hotel chain.

Shut up. Not the same thing LUSH. Keep flailing. As Trump keeps laughing at you as the penalty will be a fine. As is precedent. This is perks. Try to keep up.

LOL.."Shut up" LOL

"I don't want to hear bad things"...

No, you never want to hear the truth Lush. Trump been arrested yet?

 

[Nostra]

Oooooooooooooooh...................now it is a "characterization. A while ago it was TESTIMONY.

Trump operates like a mob boss. Doesn't take notes. Doesn't want anything in writing.

That's how mob bosses operate. The dude is a fraud.

Your dumbass opinion means nothing, Clown.

 

[lantern2814]

Only to a TDS cuck like you.

You’re the one with your head so far up Trump’s ass you can’t agree that prosecuting tax cheats is the right thing to do.

Your assertion that this should be civil is just repeating the right wing talking points. You don’t think for yourself. You’re a puppet.

Yet you remain silent on Al Sharpton claiming no income for years and owing millions in taxes, yet he walks around a free man. Sorry dimbulb, this is a civil matter per all time precedent. And still no connection to Trump. Utter fail.

 

[lantern2814]

That's from reading the indictment. Wait until a good defense attorney has at this.

receipts prove transactions, not intentions.

Yeah, I know. Rich people don’t get convicted because the can afford good attorneys. God bless the USA.

There’s no argument to be made here. They knew it was compensation. That’s why they reduced his compensation at the same time as paying for his tax free shit.

They also tend to commit crimes, or be accused of crimes that are more "what happened" than "who did it"

Murder is murder. all you have to do is prove who killed the person. This is tax law, and not only do you have to prove that what happened happened, but the person doing it knew what they were doing was criminal, and not just bad accounting or misunderstanding tax law.

And you have to prove it to a jury.

Right. Because an accountant and CFO wouldn’t have been aware that his fringe benefits were taxable.

Jesus, how stupid do you think they’re going to claim Weisselberg is?

Yet you claim all Dems are innocent because they did not know they were breaking the law. Hypocrite.

 

[colfax_m]

Yet you claim all Dems are innocent because they did not know they were breaking the law. Hypocrite.

That idea that Weisselberg didn't know that his fringe benefits were taxable is absurd.

He'd have to be a complete moron. He's not.

 

[colfax_m]

Your dumbass opinion means nothing, Clown.

It's an informed opinion, unlike yours.

 

[lantern2814]

Nope. It doesn't directly quote Trump. It relies on what other say he said, Clown.

So you’re going to accuse of lying under penalty of perjury?

I thought it was just an “opinion” piece.

Trump operates like a mobster.

Your leftist opinion writer is under oath?

No. McGhan was under penalty of perjury when he told Mueller about Trump’s distaste for keeping a record.

The article pulled quotes from the Mueller report.

Dope.

Sorry idiot, hearsay is not a direct quote. No surprise you can’t understand that.

 

[lantern2814]

Yet you claim all Dems are innocent because they did not know they were breaking the law. Hypocrite.

That idea that Weisselberg didn't know that his fringe benefits were taxable is absurd.

He'd have to be a complete moron. He's not.

Funny how you keep ignoring Al Sharpton and his years of tax evasion and fraud. Keep flailing. All you’re doing is showing what a hypocrite you are.

 

[colfax_m]

Sorry idiot, hearsay is not a direct quote. No surprise you can’t understand that.

Good point. My mistake.

Trump refused to be interviewed by Mueller. Thanks for the reminder.

Dude is crooked as hell.