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Trump promised to immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare and give you "such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost".Oh, right, like they aren't already at record highs.“I shouldn’t say this,” Trump said, “but we essentially repealed Obamacare.”
Trump just told the truth. He may wish he hadn’t.
Enjoy your record high Trumpcare medical and insurance costs, rubes.
- Premiums for the most popular health insurance on the individual market exchanges are estimated to rise 34 percent on average next year, according to the consulting firm Avalere Health, because of previous sabotage done by the Trump administration. Premiums in Iowa would be up 69 percent, Wyoming 65 percent and Utah 64 percent.
- Employer-based health insurance costs are forecast to rise in 2018 by the most since 2011
Are you calling Trump a liar?We still have Obamacare, dumbass.Wow. We are seeing some real schizophrenia here right now. This is fascinating.
When health insurance "skyrocketed" under Obama, we saw hundreds of topics started by the Tard Herd about it. They were screaming and foaming at the mouth and whining and crying profusely.
Now that health insurance is reaching record highs under TrumpCare, suddenly it's all okay. The people who can't afford health insurance are lazy no-good fuckwads who deserve it.
Positively shizophrenic!
Hmmm, let's see here. Don't work, suck off welfare, you don't get health care insurance.“I shouldn’t say this,” Trump said, “but we essentially repealed Obamacare.”
Trump just told the truth. He may wish he hadn’t.
Enjoy your record high Trumpcare medical and insurance costs, rubes.
- Premiums for the most popular health insurance on the individual market exchanges are estimated to rise 34 percent on average next year, according to the consulting firm Avalere Health, because of previous sabotage done by the Trump administration. Premiums in Iowa would be up 69 percent, Wyoming 65 percent and Utah 64 percent.
- Employer-based health insurance costs are forecast to rise in 2018 by the most since 2011
No insurance, you die.
You die and your type stop weakening the gene pool.
Darwin was brilliant!
Trump promised to immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare and give you "such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost".Oh, right, like they aren't already at record highs.“I shouldn’t say this,” Trump said, “but we essentially repealed Obamacare.”
Trump just told the truth. He may wish he hadn’t.
Enjoy your record high Trumpcare medical and insurance costs, rubes.
- Premiums for the most popular health insurance on the individual market exchanges are estimated to rise 34 percent on average next year, according to the consulting firm Avalere Health, because of previous sabotage done by the Trump administration. Premiums in Iowa would be up 69 percent, Wyoming 65 percent and Utah 64 percent.
- Employer-based health insurance costs are forecast to rise in 2018 by the most since 2011
He lied to you.
Welcome to TrumpCare and its record high costs!
You deserve it. You so deserve it.
Sure because you are a qualified physician. The stupid is strong in this one.
Most things that bring people to doctors are very easy to diagnose for any competent person. For stupid people, like yourself, you should always go to someone with some accreditation, like a CNA. I think requiring someone who has a PhD to tell you that you're stupid is overkill.
You stupid shitheads fuck up freedom for the rest of us.
I know right?You can see the schizos flipping and flopping all over the place.
One second they are pretending ObamaCare still exists so they can blame the skyrocketing costs on Obama, and ignore Trump promised he would replace ObamaCare.
The next second they are hooting and hollering that ObamaCare is gone because of the individual mandate repeal.
Man, this schizophrenic dance is some weird shit to actually see happening.
Let's hope TrumpCare covers mental illness!
Nope. Not what I said."I should be able to pick up the telephone..."
"...and see any doctor I want without having to enroll in an insurance plan first."
Well, you are going to get what you want.Nope. Not what I said."I should be able to pick up the telephone..."
"...and see any doctor I want without having to enroll in an insurance plan first."
I know...it's what I say. The only realistic way we can provide universal coverage is through a single payer system.
Both sides had really screwed things up and neither side is discussing our huge costs.
"Both sides" is the lazy person's way of saying you can't be expected to know anything about the topic being discussed.
Nope. Not what I said."I should be able to pick up the telephone..."
"...and see any doctor I want without having to enroll in an insurance plan first."
I know...it's what I say. The only realistic way we can provide universal coverage is through a single payer system.
Krugman made a very compelling argument about how people who find that medicare actually gave them more bang for buck in terms of healthcare dollar because Medicare has lower overhead.I don't think it's politically possible to convince votes who have an employer sponsored plan to voluntarily give it up.
It is possible if people actually knew what it was their health insurance company really does. Most people (at least 90%, probably more) don't know the role an insurance company plays in health care. Literally, all we need to do is educate people as to what that role is and I think you'll see tons of support for a single payer. You hear people say "I like my doctor", but you never hear anyone say "I like my insurance company". Insurance companies bank on the ignorance of people who think they're intrinsically linked to the care they get from their doctor when that couldn't be any further from reality.
If you sit a typical person down and ask them if they think it's worth a 20% fee for a private company to merely administer payment to your doctor after they treat you, I'd bet 9 times out of 10 they'd say it's not worth that. And if you told those same people that Medicare does the exact same thing their insurance company does, but does it for a fraction the overhead, they'd wonder why everyone wasn't on Medicare in the first place.
Years ago, I did work tangentally in the field of HC management, and I know Medicare does have lower overhead than private insurance.
But I don't think it's the answer because the only real cost control is congress critters having the honestly to tell voters ... sorry, we done spent the X% of gnp we allocated to healthcare this year, so you have to wait a couple of months for your new knee or cataracts or whatever.
The "fixes" are required because Conservatives monkeyed around ham-fistedly with the law by eliminating CSR's (Rubio) and blocking Medicaid expansion (SCOTUS). Fixing just those two things would have made the law much better than it is. We wanted single payer, but got Obamacare. Y'all didn't want to participate in the process at all, even denying there was a coverage problem. The ACA is better than anything y'all have to offer, and it's better than the system we had pre-ACA. Of this, there is no debate.
It did lower cost increases. The one thing govt can do under the current scheme with costs is that the Medicare Payment Schedules pretty much set how much providers get from private insurors too. So, while I'd prefer to have consumers basically shopping, that seems to be a pipedream (-:. And there is some benefit of govt cost controls.The "fixes" are required because Conservatives monkeyed around ham-fistedly with the law by eliminating CSR's (Rubio) and blocking Medicaid expansion (SCOTUS). Fixing just those two things would have made the law much better than it is. We wanted single payer, but got Obamacare. Y'all didn't want to participate in the process at all, even denying there was a coverage problem. The ACA is better than anything y'all have to offer, and it's better than the system we had pre-ACA. Of this, there is no debate.
Of course there is no debate.....you don't have an argument.
The ACA is certainly not better than the system we had before.
Oh, look. A tard who says only lazy people are having difficulty paying their health insurance and medical bills.Hmmm, let's see here. Don't work, suck off welfare, you don't get health care insurance.“I shouldn’t say this,” Trump said, “but we essentially repealed Obamacare.”
Trump just told the truth. He may wish he hadn’t.
Enjoy your record high Trumpcare medical and insurance costs, rubes.
- Premiums for the most popular health insurance on the individual market exchanges are estimated to rise 34 percent on average next year, according to the consulting firm Avalere Health, because of previous sabotage done by the Trump administration. Premiums in Iowa would be up 69 percent, Wyoming 65 percent and Utah 64 percent.
- Employer-based health insurance costs are forecast to rise in 2018 by the most since 2011
No insurance, you die.
You die and your type stop weakening the gene pool.
Darwin was brilliant!
Isn't that just precious!
That's funny. I don't recall them saying these things when they were whining about rising costs under ObamaCare!
Fucking cocksucking hypocrites.
It did lower cost increases. The one thing govt can do under the current scheme with costs is that the Medicare Payment Schedules pretty much set how much providers get from private insurors too. So, while I'd prefer to have consumers basically shopping, that seems to be a pipedream (-:. And there is some benefit of govt cost controls.The "fixes" are required because Conservatives monkeyed around ham-fistedly with the law by eliminating CSR's (Rubio) and blocking Medicaid expansion (SCOTUS). Fixing just those two things would have made the law much better than it is. We wanted single payer, but got Obamacare. Y'all didn't want to participate in the process at all, even denying there was a coverage problem. The ACA is better than anything y'all have to offer, and it's better than the system we had pre-ACA. Of this, there is no debate.
Of course there is no debate.....you don't have an argument.
The ACA is certainly not better than the system we had before.
SS and Medicare are bankrupt fool... lolThere is no such thing as a socialist entitlement program that is self-sufficient absolutely 100 percent impossible for them to stand up under their own weightIndeed! Like the $1.4 trillion of tax expenditures which drive up our tax rates and cause heavy borrowing from China and other nations.All socialist entitlement programs are theftBingo.You are already subsidizing us because our employer's are not taxed when providing the benefits to us, which are non-taxed income to us. Thanks, btw.
Employer sponsored health insurance is tax exempt. That means every taxpayer is subsidizing people who get their insurance from their employer. We all have to pay higher tax rates to make up for that tax exemption. Plus, we have to borrow from China and add to the debt.
But you see, the tards NEVER see THEIR government gifts as theft. Only the free shit given to others bothers them.
Medicare and Social Security have Trusts. That's literally the programs being self-sufficient.
What a goofball.
Trump has officially taken ownership.
“I shouldn’t say this,” Trump said, “but we essentially repealed Obamacare.”
Welcome to TrumpCare.
