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Would the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
I don't think I would want black prisoners handling anybody's food but their own.
You seem to know a lot about prison. Are you posting from one?Next time you call customer service and it isn't someone from India... you might just be talking to an inmate. Prisons don't just make licence plates, bake bread, or grow food anymore.
? Are you sure it's not a state by state thing? I worked at one of the Maine prisons, and no one was forced to take one of the many paying jobs. Some paid about enough to buy a pack of smokes and some ramen noodles at the end of the month, but there was pay. Some of the more "professional" jobs like the guys who made all the jeans for every inmate in the prison system got paid the most. But if a guy wanted to sit on his ass and play cards watching Oprah all day, he could.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned peopleWould the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
It already happens and it is actually called indentured servitude. It's against the 13th Amendment but it still happens. Why else do you think private prisons work?
No the 13th amendment is to the constitution which is federal. I'm sure states can implement it however they see fit. We know because the south used it to restart slavery.? Are you sure it's not a state by state thing? I worked at one of the Maine prisons, and no one was forced to take one of the many paying jobs. Some paid about enough to buy a pack of smokes and some ramen noodles at the end of the month, but there was pay. Some of the more "professional" jobs like the guys who made all the jeans for every inmate in the prison system got paid the most. But if a guy wanted to sit on his ass and play cards watching Oprah all day, he could.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned peopleWould the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
It already happens and it is actually called indentured servitude. It's against the 13th Amendment but it still happens. Why else do you think private prisons work?
You seem to know a lot about prison. Are you posting from one?Next time you call customer service and it isn't someone from India... you might just be talking to an inmate. Prisons don't just make licence plates, bake bread, or grow food anymore.
Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned peopleWould the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
It already happens and it is actually called indentured servitude. It's against the 13th Amendment but it still happens. Why else do you think private prisons work?
It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned peopleWould the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
It already happens and it is actually called indentured servitude. It's against the 13th Amendment but it still happens. Why else do you think private prisons work?
It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned peopleWould the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
It already happens and it is actually called indentured servitude. It's against the 13th Amendment but it still happens. Why else do you think private prisons work?
It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
What place is this? Where I am from people getting out of prison are basically set up to go back into the prison system.Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned peopleIt already happens and it is actually called indentured servitude. It's against the 13th Amendment but it still happens. Why else do you think private prisons work?
It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned peopleIt already happens and it is actually called indentured servitude. It's against the 13th Amendment but it still happens. Why else do you think private prisons work?
It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
Its only weird if you are a silly white boy like yourself. Black people know and have known for a long time that whites love sending Blacks to prison in order to get around that pesky 13th amendment.Repubs want chain gangs and the continuance of the Prison Industrial Complex.Dem's want illegal Mexican slaves out working in the fields.
That’s so weird...a Black person against forcing lowlifes and criminals to pay their own way...who would have thought!
Maine. We had an active work release program that got guys good jobs in the community during their last year so they could pay off fines, get some $$ together for when they got released, and get a good job reference. Some of them even stayed in the area to take full time offers from the bosses they had been working for in the work release program. It is only for minimum security inmates, but still. That is a lot. Inmates fought to get those jobs. If your state doesn't have them, they should.What place is this? Where I am from people getting out of prison are basically set up to go back into the prison system.Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned people
It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
Maine. We had an active work release program that got guys good jobs in the community during their last year so they could pay off fines, get some $$ together for when they got released, and get a good job reference. Some of them even stayed in the area to take full time offers from the bosses they had been working for in the work release program. It is only for minimum security inmates, but still. That is a lot. Inmates fought to get those jobs. If your state doesn't have them, they should.What place is this? Where I am from people getting out of prison are basically set up to go back into the prison system.Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
We don't have private prisons in Maine, so I don't know about that. It doesn't sound very good. If it were a state run program, they would WANT to invest in programs to keep guys out of prison, because it's a lot cheaper in the long run than having them come back. But where they're private, they don't have that incentive, do they?Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.Its not against the 13th. The 13th actually allows slavery of imprisoned people
It is supposed to include indentured servitude... which is basically what it has become. That's the argument against private prisons and the prison industrial complex.
Private prisons will get paid by states and the feds to take in inmates. They are supposed to provide certain things for the inmates, but instead of helping to rehabilitate them, they try to avoid giving them the resources to make themselves better and avoid recidivism, and instead try to avoid also giving them credit for good time and making sure they stay behind bars as long as possible. They then will take on work contracts where they get paid $7.50+ dollars and hour labor from the companies, and then give inmates pennies a day and say the rest is going to pay for their food, shelter, etc. even though the state the inmate came from are the ones actually paying for them to be there.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
Most private prisons don't do that... especially now. They don't make money by spending extra on rehab programs and teachings inmates how to stay out of prison.
Maine. We had an active work release program that got guys good jobs in the community during their last year so they could pay off fines, get some $$ together for when they got released, and get a good job reference. Some of them even stayed in the area to take full time offers from the bosses they had been working for in the work release program. It is only for minimum security inmates, but still. That is a lot. Inmates fought to get those jobs. If your state doesn't have them, they should.What place is this? Where I am from people getting out of prison are basically set up to go back into the prison system.Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
...but was that before.
Maine. We had an active work release program that got guys good jobs in the community during their last year so they could pay off fines, get some $$ together for when they got released, and get a good job reference. Some of them even stayed in the area to take full time offers from the bosses they had been working for in the work release program. It is only for minimum security inmates, but still. That is a lot. Inmates fought to get those jobs. If your state doesn't have them, they should.What place is this? Where I am from people getting out of prison are basically set up to go back into the prison system.Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.Sometimes teaching inmates how to work is rehabilitation. I am thinking of one young kid on my caseload who came from a city out of state, got busted for running coke up here, was doing a couple years. Never had a job before. It took a lot of effort and a lot of lectures to teach this kid those "soft skills" like showing up to work and staying 'til the boss said the day was done. Actually following directions and not telling the boss to stick it up his ass. That kind of thing. It finally worked (it wasn't just me, it was a lot of the folks who supervised the different work programs, and some of the guards) and that kid got a good job in our work release program where he got certified as a fork lift operator and when he was released he had a job before he even got on the bus home. He emailed us about six months later and was doing great. That's rehabilitation and it was all about learning to work.
There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
...but was that before.
Yes, most conservatives are truly this ignorant and stupid.Would the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
Maine. We had an active work release program that got guys good jobs in the community during their last year so they could pay off fines, get some $$ together for when they got released, and get a good job reference. Some of them even stayed in the area to take full time offers from the bosses they had been working for in the work release program. It is only for minimum security inmates, but still. That is a lot. Inmates fought to get those jobs. If your state doesn't have them, they should.What place is this? Where I am from people getting out of prison are basically set up to go back into the prison system.Yeah, we did those for all inmates in their last year, too. What he mostly needed was the work experience and the chance to fall on his nose and be given another chance, which we did a handful of times 'til he got it right.There is a lot more to it than just that. There are re-entry programs that teach them how to budget money, coping skills, AA/NA, etc. Just working isn't rehab.
...but was that before.
Willie Horton would not have been eligible for the work release program because of his crime. And from the inmates that were technically "eligible," we only sent the best "ambassadors" out into the community. It was a lot of work, for us and for the employers to get things set up. But it paid off.
I'm sorry that guy screwed up things for you guys. Mass, is it?
They already do dipshit...Would the Left shit their pants if ‘someone’ had the balls to propose such a measure?
How would you vote if a piece of legislation on this came down the pipeline?
