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In 12 pages no one has been able to rebut the general concept of the OP. In fact every effort by Conservatives result in more evidence in support of the claim that conservatives are defined by what they oppose,

Is it any wonder The Congress under the control of McConnell and Boehner/Ryan have done nothing of substance since gaining control.


YOu are talking crazy.

Have you heard of wikipedia?

They have a nice article on American conservatism.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"American Conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, economic liberalism, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, limiting the size and scope of government, and opposition to high taxes and to government or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives consider individual liberty, within the bounds of conformity to American values as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with modern American liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice."





YOur pretense of ignorance on this is silly.

Today's brand of conservative would be attacked by William F. Buckley as he attacked the John Birch Society decades ago, calling it an extremist organization. Many well known conservatives have spoken out against the New Right and Trump, and even today Colin Powell called Trump a "National Disgrace".


Powell attacked both trump and hillary or did that slip your mind?
 
What do conservatives support?

Trump Supports Clinton's Balls

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In 12 pages no one has been able to rebut the general concept of the OP. In fact every effort by Conservatives result in more evidence in support of the claim that conservatives are defined by what they oppose,

Is it any wonder The Congress under the control of McConnell and Boehner/Ryan have done nothing of substance since gaining control.


YOu are talking crazy.

Have you heard of wikipedia?

They have a nice article on American conservatism.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"American Conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, economic liberalism, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, limiting the size and scope of government, and opposition to high taxes and to government or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives consider individual liberty, within the bounds of conformity to American values as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with modern American liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice."





YOur pretense of ignorance on this is silly.

Today's brand of conservative would be attacked by William F. Buckley as he attacked the John Birch Society decades ago, calling it an extremist organization. Many well known conservatives have spoken out against the New Right and Trump, and even today Colin Powell called Trump a "National Disgrace".


That fact that deporting illegal aliens, and bring back manufacturing jobs and NOT fucking with Russia, is seen as "extremist" or "disgraceful" shows that there is a problem with this nation as a whole.


And TRump is the answer.


And regardless, you asked what Conservatives support, and I posted the answer.


Cease your nonsensical claims now.

I don't take kindly to orders from anonymous sources on the Internet, especially those who read my comments with a bias, and then respond with a wiki definition which is not relevant to the contemporary iteration of 21st. century conservatism.

IMO, 21st. century conservatism is akin to fascism. You may of course disagree, but calling this claim nonsensical is not a rebuttal, it's a logical fallacy.




The 20th century was 16 years ago.


Trump's core platform is nearly identical to Patrick Buchanan's from 92 and 96.


Patrick Buchanan, in case you are unaware, was already old then, and is certainly from 20th century conservatism.


Hell, I'M from 20th century conservatism and I support TRump and his message.


Your dismissal of my link is a weak dodge.

Buchanan was fringe, much as was the John Birch Society; William F. Buckley was the model for 20th century conservatism.
 
In 12 pages no one has been able to rebut the general concept of the OP. In fact every effort by Conservatives result in more evidence in support of the claim that conservatives are defined by what they oppose,

Is it any wonder The Congress under the control of McConnell and Boehner/Ryan have done nothing of substance since gaining control.


YOu are talking crazy.

Have you heard of wikipedia?

They have a nice article on American conservatism.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"American Conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, economic liberalism, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, limiting the size and scope of government, and opposition to high taxes and to government or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives consider individual liberty, within the bounds of conformity to American values as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with modern American liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice."





YOur pretense of ignorance on this is silly.

Today's brand of conservative would be attacked by William F. Buckley as he attacked the John Birch Society decades ago, calling it an extremist organization. Many well known conservatives have spoken out against the New Right and Trump, and even today Colin Powell called Trump a "National Disgrace".


Powell attacked both trump and hillary or did that slip your mind?

Powell called Trump a national disgrace! He was pissed HRC brought his name into the e-mail fiasco. Being called a national disgrace trumps everything Powell said about HRC.
 
So, your point is that since ONCE, a long time ago, a bad man abused the desire of people for Law and Order, that it is bad of conservatives to support Law and Order now?

That seems to be what you were implying. But I hate to respond and then have lefties play silly evasive games.

Could you clearly state your intended point to avoid any possible misunderstanding, real or pretend?

I was not implying, I posted an example of how laws were abused and "order" was a euphemism for Authoritarianism. Anyone who listened to Trump's stump speech (not those written by his new handler) heard words of a fascist, a demagogue and a charlatan.

Only if you believe that ONE historical example demonstrates that that is the ONLY POSSIBLE scenario.


Which is utterly ridiculous.

Using that "logic" the fact the ONE planet, Earth, has life on it, that would mean that ALL planets have life on them.

Or that ONE apple was poisoned by an evil witch, that means ALL apples have been poisoned by evil witches.

You are utterly ridiculous.

Get your head out of the sand and listen to Trump's stump speech - in short you will hear hate, fear and ridiculous promises, if you listen. One example can be, and in this case is, instructive, but only for those who apply sagacious reasoning to the issue.

You are the one making an extreme claim.

Back it up with a transcript, if you can.

Otherwise, you are just engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion combined with a Godwin at that, which is a FAIL, and thus my point stands.

One extreme example today of your unhinged nominee:

Trump: Clinton's bodyguards should drop guns and 'see what happens to her'

What if Trump changed the target from HRC to the Pope or Wayne LaPierre? Be honest, if you can.
So, your point is that since ONCE, a long time ago, a bad man abused the desire of people for Law and Order, that it is bad of conservatives to support Law and Order now?

That seems to be what you were implying. But I hate to respond and then have lefties play silly evasive games.

Could you clearly state your intended point to avoid any possible misunderstanding, real or pretend?

I was not implying, I posted an example of how laws were abused and "order" was a euphemism for Authoritarianism. Anyone who listened to Trump's stump speech (not those written by his new handler) heard words of a fascist, a demagogue and a charlatan.

Only if you believe that ONE historical example demonstrates that that is the ONLY POSSIBLE scenario.


Which is utterly ridiculous.

Using that "logic" the fact the ONE planet, Earth, has life on it, that would mean that ALL planets have life on them.

Or that ONE apple was poisoned by an evil witch, that means ALL apples have been poisoned by evil witches.

You are utterly ridiculous.

Get your head out of the sand and listen to Trump's stump speech - in short you will hear hate, fear and ridiculous promises, if you listen. One example can be, and in this case is, instructive, but only for those who apply sagacious reasoning to the issue.

You are the one making an extreme claim.

Back it up with a transcript, if you can.

Otherwise, you are just engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion combined with a Godwin at that, which is a FAIL, and thus my point stands.

One extreme example today of your unhinged nominee:

Trump: Clinton's bodyguards should drop guns and 'see what happens to her'

What if Trump changed the target from HRC to the Pope or Wayne LaPierre? Be honest, if you can.



The point of that argument, which has been used before, and indeed, I believe WITH a pope

is to point out the hypocrisy of anti-gun people who use gun toting security.


That is NOT Authoritarian. It is not Hateful. It is not trying to scare people. It is not a ridiculous promise.
 
YOu are talking crazy.

Have you heard of wikipedia?

They have a nice article on American conservatism.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"American Conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, economic liberalism, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, limiting the size and scope of government, and opposition to high taxes and to government or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives consider individual liberty, within the bounds of conformity to American values as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with modern American liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice."





YOur pretense of ignorance on this is silly.

Today's brand of conservative would be attacked by William F. Buckley as he attacked the John Birch Society decades ago, calling it an extremist organization. Many well known conservatives have spoken out against the New Right and Trump, and even today Colin Powell called Trump a "National Disgrace".


That fact that deporting illegal aliens, and bring back manufacturing jobs and NOT fucking with Russia, is seen as "extremist" or "disgraceful" shows that there is a problem with this nation as a whole.


And TRump is the answer.


And regardless, you asked what Conservatives support, and I posted the answer.


Cease your nonsensical claims now.

I don't take kindly to orders from anonymous sources on the Internet, especially those who read my comments with a bias, and then respond with a wiki definition which is not relevant to the contemporary iteration of 21st. century conservatism.

IMO, 21st. century conservatism is akin to fascism. You may of course disagree, but calling this claim nonsensical is not a rebuttal, it's a logical fallacy.




The 20th century was 16 years ago.


Trump's core platform is nearly identical to Patrick Buchanan's from 92 and 96.


Patrick Buchanan, in case you are unaware, was already old then, and is certainly from 20th century conservatism.


Hell, I'M from 20th century conservatism and I support TRump and his message.


Your dismissal of my link is a weak dodge.

Buchanan was fringe, much as was the John Birch Society; William F. Buckley was the model for 20th century conservatism.



Everything Buchanan proposed fit within the linked definition of conservatism that I posted, that you said fit 20th century conservatism.

He was NOT an extremist.

An effectively open border is the Extremist Position.

Radical Change, such as the Status Quo Policies are inflicting on the US, are almost by definition extremist.
 
In 12 pages no one has been able to rebut the general concept of the OP. In fact every effort by Conservatives result in more evidence in support of the claim that conservatives are defined by what they oppose,

Is it any wonder The Congress under the control of McConnell and Boehner/Ryan have done nothing of substance since gaining control.


YOu are talking crazy.

Have you heard of wikipedia?

They have a nice article on American conservatism.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"American Conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, economic liberalism, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, limiting the size and scope of government, and opposition to high taxes and to government or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives consider individual liberty, within the bounds of conformity to American values as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with modern American liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice."





YOur pretense of ignorance on this is silly.

Today's brand of conservative would be attacked by William F. Buckley as he attacked the John Birch Society decades ago, calling it an extremist organization. Many well known conservatives have spoken out against the New Right and Trump, and even today Colin Powell called Trump a "National Disgrace".


Powell attacked both trump and hillary or did that slip your mind?

Powell called Trump a national disgrace! He was pissed HRC brought his name into the e-mail fiasco. Being called a national disgrace trumps everything Powell said about HRC.


Powell is wrong. Powell makes the common mistake of not dismissing everything the lefty media says about Republicans.


I wonder if Powell supports the things that the lefty media said about HIM.
 
In 12 pages no one has been able to rebut the general concept of the OP. In fact every effort by Conservatives result in more evidence in support of the claim that conservatives are defined by what they oppose,

Is it any wonder The Congress under the control of McConnell and Boehner/Ryan have done nothing of substance since gaining control.


YOu are talking crazy.

Have you heard of wikipedia?

They have a nice article on American conservatism.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"American Conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, economic liberalism, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, limiting the size and scope of government, and opposition to high taxes and to government or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives consider individual liberty, within the bounds of conformity to American values as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with modern American liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice."





YOur pretense of ignorance on this is silly.

Today's brand of conservative would be attacked by William F. Buckley as he attacked the John Birch Society decades ago, calling it an extremist organization. Many well known conservatives have spoken out against the New Right and Trump, and even today Colin Powell called Trump a "National Disgrace".


Powell attacked both trump and hillary or did that slip your mind?

Powell called Trump a national disgrace! He was pissed HRC brought his name into the e-mail fiasco. Being called a national disgrace trumps everything Powell said about HRC.


Still want to ignore Powell called hillary a bitch in so many terms?
 
So republicans are even against public education.

Many are for home schooling.

It isn't true public education. It is government education, and the way it conditions kids mentally and conforms kids socially, is absolutely despicable.

What the fuck do you support?

Freedom mate.

Something that does not exist in the slave state we are living in.
Home schooling is stupid.

Kids don't learn to socialize. Kids don't get a uniform education, so society including employers have no way of determining your actual abilities except if they THEN had to test you themselves. Which they won't do. Because there's plenty of public schooled people who go on to prestigious colleges. Or prestigiously private schooled.

You only CLAIM it's Government education but at the same time you suggest it really isn't much of an education at all...but rather shit.


Dude, you have no friggin' clue as to how the "public school system" came to be and how "Free education for all children in government schools" (key word being "government) is one of the planks of the communist manifesto. Kids only have 5 minutes in between classes, they may have to ride a bus to the public indoctrination centers but it's not like they get to freely "wander around the bus" and most of the time they have to worry about being bullied. They have to worry about being bullied at lunch, worry about having to "fit in". They are only in school half of the year...do you think kids just stay huddled in their home the other half of the year and don't "socialize" with others their age at churches or with other neighborhood kids? This joke of a public school system isn't doing anything for the ordinary child to gather skills for the work force. They are not teaching them how to add, do cursive writing, appreciate literature, etc, etc. I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

You don't know diddly squat about the real world...you are just an angry little communist punk.

I hated school-----from my first day at kindergarten to ---high school graduation------it was like being jailed. I got thru it by
secreting a book on my lap (like under the desk) School was such a waste of time that-----a few times I just skipped
class to prepare for THE TEST (the means reading the text-
book-----the teacher was superfluous. ) Would anyone be
surprised if I mentioned that a few teachers-----unimpressed
with that line of A's on the tests gave me a lousy grade
for "class participation"??? one bitch went so far was to
FAIL me in "attitude"---it kept me off the honor roll that period.
One day---Ninth grade---I caught the social studies teacher----
a really nice girl-----instructing a student teacher person on how to compare "democracy" with "communism"------ie ---good vs bad. I listened with rapt attention until she CAUGHT ME eavesdropping-------she was STARTLED

:booze:
 
Conservatives aren't for anything, they are only against things. They hate everything that's ever been beneficial to society.
If you are for freedom then you are against just about everything the left wants to impose on us.
 
Wrong! - Republicans.....

Sorry, I can't speak to or for Republicans since I'm a Conservative not a Republican.
Conservative are heavier regulators than Repubtards, plus they vote Republican, so they own everything they do. Republicans & Conservatives tried to ban stem-cell research & set the US back more than a decade behind other countries. They should be denied all access to life saving stem-cell treatment. All they do is drag this country backwards allowing other countries to power past US.

They always cause massive job loss & economic harm!

So one regulation they want to pass makes them "heavier regulators?" How many regulations where in Obamacare's 10,000 pages? How many major regulations has Obama created since he ascended the throne?
 
Conservatives aren't for anything, they are only against things. They hate everything that's ever been beneficial to society.

That's because every change in the last fifty years has taken power from whites. They're scared shitless of the idea of becoming a minority. It's really just simple mental inferiority.

Taken power from whites? What you mean is that everything Dims have passed in the last 50 years has robbed Peter to pay Paul. It has also curtailed our freedom and imposed the lifestyles of freaks and perverts on us.
 
Conservatives aren't for anything, they are only against things. They hate everything that's ever been beneficial to society.

That's because every change in the last fifty years has taken power from whites. They're scared shitless of the idea of becoming a minority. It's really just simple mental inferiority.

Taken power from whites? What you mean is that everything Dims have passed in the last 50 years has robbed Peter to pay Paul. It has also curtailed our freedom and imposed the lifestyles of freaks and perverts on us.

Civil rights dope.
 
I've argued many times that conservatives are defined on what they oppose (gay marriage, taxes, change, the ERA, sex ed in school, abortion, free contraceptives, labor unions, the UN, democracy,
Affirmative Action/consent decrees, gun control, FEMA, the PPACA, Climate Change, a Government too large , (how large is too large for a nation of 300 + million?), public school teachers and other government employees - until they need them.

I've also posted the 14 points of Fascism, which, when applied to the statements / rhetoric of Trump are enlightening, and should IMO give pause to those opposed to an authoritarian federal government when considering a vote for the Republikan nominees. We don't need a Big Brother

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Keep these sage comments i mind when in the voting booth:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

And you have had your ass kicked over it every time. You merge conservatism with anything on the right together to build your straw man, many of the shot you use as evidence is completely made up either in your own mind or by left wing nut job media.

The result is that you post a lot but say absolutely nothing.
 
I was not implying, I posted an example of how laws were abused and "order" was a euphemism for Authoritarianism. Anyone who listened to Trump's stump speech (not those written by his new handler) heard words of a fascist, a demagogue and a charlatan.

Only if you believe that ONE historical example demonstrates that that is the ONLY POSSIBLE scenario.


Which is utterly ridiculous.

Using that "logic" the fact the ONE planet, Earth, has life on it, that would mean that ALL planets have life on them.

Or that ONE apple was poisoned by an evil witch, that means ALL apples have been poisoned by evil witches.

You are utterly ridiculous.

Get your head out of the sand and listen to Trump's stump speech - in short you will hear hate, fear and ridiculous promises, if you listen. One example can be, and in this case is, instructive, but only for those who apply sagacious reasoning to the issue.

You are the one making an extreme claim.

Back it up with a transcript, if you can.

Otherwise, you are just engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion combined with a Godwin at that, which is a FAIL, and thus my point stands.

One extreme example today of your unhinged nominee:

Trump: Clinton's bodyguards should drop guns and 'see what happens to her'

What if Trump changed the target from HRC to the Pope or Wayne LaPierre? Be honest, if you can.
I was not implying, I posted an example of how laws were abused and "order" was a euphemism for Authoritarianism. Anyone who listened to Trump's stump speech (not those written by his new handler) heard words of a fascist, a demagogue and a charlatan.

Only if you believe that ONE historical example demonstrates that that is the ONLY POSSIBLE scenario.


Which is utterly ridiculous.

Using that "logic" the fact the ONE planet, Earth, has life on it, that would mean that ALL planets have life on them.

Or that ONE apple was poisoned by an evil witch, that means ALL apples have been poisoned by evil witches.

You are utterly ridiculous.

Get your head out of the sand and listen to Trump's stump speech - in short you will hear hate, fear and ridiculous promises, if you listen. One example can be, and in this case is, instructive, but only for those who apply sagacious reasoning to the issue.

You are the one making an extreme claim.

Back it up with a transcript, if you can.

Otherwise, you are just engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion combined with a Godwin at that, which is a FAIL, and thus my point stands.

One extreme example today of your unhinged nominee:

Trump: Clinton's bodyguards should drop guns and 'see what happens to her'

What if Trump changed the target from HRC to the Pope or Wayne LaPierre? Be honest, if you can.



The point of that argument, which has been used before, and indeed, I believe WITH a pope

is to point out the hypocrisy of anti-gun people who use gun toting security.


That is NOT Authoritarian. It is not Hateful. It is not trying to scare people. It is not a ridiculous promise.

Mendacity is your game, you cannot be honest - crooked Correll
 
I've argued many times that conservatives are defined on what they oppose (gay marriage, taxes, change, the ERA, sex ed in school, abortion, free contraceptives, labor unions, the UN, democracy,
Affirmative Action/consent decrees, gun control, FEMA, the PPACA, Climate Change, a Government too large , (how large is too large for a nation of 300 + million?), public school teachers and other government employees - until they need them.

I've also posted the 14 points of Fascism, which, when applied to the statements / rhetoric of Trump are enlightening, and should IMO give pause to those opposed to an authoritarian federal government when considering a vote for the Republikan nominees. We don't need a Big Brother

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Keep these sage comments i mind when in the voting booth:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

And you have had your ass kicked over it every time. You merge conservatism with anything on the right together to build your straw man, many of the shot you use as evidence is completely made up either in your own mind or by left wing nut job media.

The result is that you post a lot but say absolutely nothing.

Not a rebuttal, but what I expect from a fascist hypocrite like you.
 
Conservatives aren't for anything, they are only against things. They hate everything that's ever been beneficial to society.
If you are for freedom then you are against just about everything the left wants to impose on us.

But no one seeks to suppress your right to post whatever you feel at the moment - allowing you to make a complete fool of yourself adds entertainment to the board.
 
In 12 pages no one has been able to rebut the general concept of the OP. In fact every effort by Conservatives result in more evidence in support of the claim that conservatives are defined by what they oppose,

Is it any wonder The Congress under the control of McConnell and Boehner/Ryan have done nothing of substance since gaining control.


YOu are talking crazy.

Have you heard of wikipedia?

They have a nice article on American conservatism.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"American Conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, support for Judeo-Christian values, economic liberalism, anti-communism, advocacy of American exceptionalism and a defense of Western culture from perceived threats posed by creeping socialism, moral relativism, multiculturalism, and liberal internationalism. Liberty is a core value, with a particular emphasis on strengthening the free market, limiting the size and scope of government, and opposition to high taxes and to government or labor union encroachment on the entrepreneur. American conservatives consider individual liberty, within the bounds of conformity to American values as the fundamental trait of democracy, which contrasts with modern American liberals, who generally place a greater value on equality and social justice."





YOur pretense of ignorance on this is silly.

Today's brand of conservative would be attacked by William F. Buckley as he attacked the John Birch Society decades ago, calling it an extremist organization. Many well known conservatives have spoken out against the New Right and Trump, and even today Colin Powell called Trump a "National Disgrace".


Powell attacked both trump and hillary or did that slip your mind?

Powell called Trump a national disgrace! He was pissed HRC brought his name into the e-mail fiasco. Being called a national disgrace trumps everything Powell said about HRC.


Still want to ignore Powell called hillary a bitch in so many terms?

"WASHINGTON (AP) — In a private email exchange last year leaked this week by hackers, former Secretary of State Colin Powell discussed Israel's nuclear weapons capability with a friend, saying the country has 200 warheads."
Colin Powell in leaked email: Israel has 200 nukes
 
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