What do conservatives support?

[NoNukes]

The result is we opened an alternative school for children 5-18 last week.

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

Quit complaining and do something.

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

 

[2aguy]

I've argued many times that conservatives are defined on what they oppose (gay marriage, taxes, change, the ERA, sex ed in school, abortion, free contraceptives, labor unions, the UN, democracy,
Affirmative Action/consent decrees, gun control, FEMA, the PPACA, Climate Change, a Government too large , (how large is too large for a nation of 300 + million?), public school teachers and other government employees - until they need them.

I've also posted the 14 points of Fascism, which, when applied to the statements / rhetoric of Trump are enlightening, and should IMO give pause to those opposed to an authoritarian federal government when considering a vote for the Republikan nominees. We don't need a Big Brother

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Keep these sage comments i mind when in the voting booth:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

Fascism is a socialist economic system...it is left wing and more in line with the democrat party.......not conservatives...you guys can lie about it all you want, but the internet now allows us to show you are lying........

 

[2aguy]

The result is we opened an alternative school for children 5-18 last week.

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

Quit complaining and do something.

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

Repblicans have been trying to get school vouchers for decades...to allow poor and minority parents to educate their children in schools that actually educate children....and the democrats fight it every step of the way....

 

[NoNukes]

The result is we opened an alternative school for children 5-18 last week.

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

Quit complaining and do something.

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

Repblicans have been trying to get school vouchers for decades...to allow poor and minority parents to educate their children in schools that actually educate children....and the democrats fight it every step of the way....

Why do more conservatives not get involved in teaching and running schools?

 

[2aguy]

The result is we opened an alternative school for children 5-18 last week.

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

Quit complaining and do something.

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

Repblicans have been trying to get school vouchers for decades...to allow poor and minority parents to educate their children in schools that actually educate children....and the democrats fight it every step of the way....

Why do more conservatives not get involved in teaching and running schools?

They do......the unions control the teachers.....

 

[Trump.Stamped]

Conservatives support Traditions, Values and the Rule of Law. The concepts of Law and Order along with Personal Responsibility are essential to Conservative ideology. A place for everyone, and everyone in their place.

Traditions and Values are the same fucking thing.

Meanwhile...WHOSE Traditions or Values?

The concept of "Law and Order"? Most Police are Democrats, nice try.

A place for everyone and everyone in their place:

Is a fucking Feudal concept enshrined in Dune. So Republicans admit they think they are the elite, and everyone else belongs beneath them llike slaves.

Pathetic shits.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha most police are Democrats Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[NoNukes]

The result is we opened an alternative school for children 5-18 last week.

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

Quit complaining and do something.

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

Repblicans have been trying to get school vouchers for decades...to allow poor and minority parents to educate their children in schools that actually educate children....and the democrats fight it every step of the way....

Why do more conservatives not get involved in teaching and running schools?

They do......the unions control the teachers.....

What percentage of teachers do you think are conservatives?

 

[2aguy]

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

Repblicans have been trying to get school vouchers for decades...to allow poor and minority parents to educate their children in schools that actually educate children....and the democrats fight it every step of the way....

Why do more conservatives not get involved in teaching and running schools?

They do......the unions control the teachers.....

What percentage of teachers do you think are conservatives?

It doesn't matter...they are required to pay money to the union.....that money is used to fund democrat candidates who vote against improving education.....obama himself ended the D.C. voucher program that allowed poor kids to go to the same school his daughters went to...that was one of the first things he did.....then the Republicans forced a restoration of those funds...you know, they actualy tried to improve education for poor blacks..rather than locking them in the horrible schools...

 

[NoNukes]

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

Repblicans have been trying to get school vouchers for decades...to allow poor and minority parents to educate their children in schools that actually educate children....and the democrats fight it every step of the way....

Why do more conservatives not get involved in teaching and running schools?

They do......the unions control the teachers.....

What percentage of teachers do you think are conservatives?

It doesn't matter...they are required to pay money to the union.....that money is used to fund democrat candidates who vote against improving education.....obama himself ended the D.C. voucher program that allowed poor kids to go to the same school his daughters went to...that was one of the first things he did.....then the Republicans forced a restoration of those funds...you know, they actualy tried to improve education for poor blacks..rather than locking them in the horrible schools...

I did not think you would have an answer.
Go shoot something and leave us alone

 

[Londoner]

Interesting tidibt.

Edmund Burke, one of the father's of Conservatism, believed that social evolution should spring from what people actually believe and want. In Burke's critique of the French Revolution, he showed the dangers that come with overturning social orders and traditions virtually form the top-down.

In short, Conservatism opposes revolutions because revolutions are too disruptive, and they don't leave sufficient room for a nation to evolve naturally/organically.

Under Burke's standards, the Reagan Revolution was not conservative. Indeed, revolutions, because of their centralized, top-down organization, are anti-conservative by definition.

Reagan inherited a nation where a huge swath of the electorate trusted big government. This makes sense because the American Government helped defeat the Nazis and put a man on the moon. Government administered the building of the Hoover Dam, the great Interstate system and satellite system and the massive public works projects that brought water and energy to unsettled territories. Seniors - who faced overwhelming poverty prior to the 40s - liked cashing their Social Security checks.

According to Reagan, the problem with Big Government is that it taxed the wealthy at too high a rate. Reagan wanted to reverse the relationship between the wealthy and government. He wanted the wealthy to be the takers, meaning he wanted them to benefit from subsidies, bailouts, infrastructure, patent protection, legal protection and military defense of overseas supply chains, but he didn't want them to have to pay for it. He turned Washington into a modern lobby state whereby large corporations (rather than "brownshirts") used financial donations to dictate the legislative behavior of politicians. He made it possible for big business to suck at the teat of big government, while lowering the cost (taxes) they paid for those services.

But the Reagan Revolution had a problem. The citizenry had lived with big Government too long, and they needed to be re-educated. So the Reagan Revolution reinvigorated the Rightwing Think Tank and Media revolution for the purpose of changing national opinion on government. Reagan wanted American citizens to hate government so that it would become harder for government to tax and regulate business. Rather than trusting the peoples' faith in things like Social Security and infrastructure investment, the Reagan Revolution did what all revolutions do: it changed peoples' minds/opinions. Indeed, the Reagan Revolution opened the floodgates for money to pour from big business into Rightwing think tanks and media. The Reagan Revolution created a massive incentive system which rewarded anyone who would make the case against government. It took 30 years, but now it is common sense to hate government.

Edmund Burke, the father of Conservatism, is turning over in his grave because he trusts the people more than he trusts a small, centralized command of revolutionaries who want to re-educate all citizens. When the Reagan Revolution decided to re-educate people by creating a talk radio/Fox/internet network of opinion shapers, it became every bit as corrupt and dangerous as the Liberals who enacted the French Revolution.

 

[Anathema]

While you were asleep the Republican Party became the Republikan Party - all moderates and Goldwater conservatives have been tossed under the bus and deemed RINO's.

Republican, RINO, Goldfish.... call them whatever you want; the establishment core of that party is not Conservative. That's why I'll never be a member of that party.

 

[Dale Smith]

Conservatives support Traditions, Values and the Rule of Law. The concepts of Law and Order along with Personal Responsibility are essential to Conservative ideology. A place for everyone, and everyone in their place.

Traditions and Values are the same fucking thing.

Meanwhile...WHOSE Traditions or Values?

The concept of "Law and Order"? Most Police are Democrats, nice try.

A place for everyone and everyone in their place:

Is a fucking Feudal concept enshrined in Dune. So Republicans admit they think they are the elite, and everyone else belongs beneath them llike slaves.

Pathetic shits.

Nailed it.

To them control over brown immigrants, brown Americans, brown muslims, poor folks and women is absolutely essential in preserving their tradition of white, male supremacy and the value system that teaches white and might are right.

You mean "illegals".....get it right, dumb ass. BTW, you don't have the slightest fucking clue as to what is the biggest driving force behind poverty because you don't have the slightest clue on how the banking and financial industry works because you are just a little "arrested development" commie that feels like you are being "cheated".,......stupid fucks like you make me sick...seriously.

Seriously, you're writing abilities are childish.

(Face palm).........seriously, why do you even bother????

 

[Dale Smith]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

Odd that being so smart you never learned to write anything but simple sentences sans paragraphs.

Please, by all means, pick a topic and debate me.......bring the best that you have and allow me to bury you under an avalanche of facts. You have nothing to lose but what little pride you have left.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The result is we opened an alternative school for children 5-18 last week.

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

Quit complaining and do something.

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

I blame that traitorous fuck Dubya for that and his partner in crime Tom Delay. Statist Republicans are even more evil than their Democrat Counterparts

 

[Dale Smith]

Wow, way to exhausted to point out how evil the IRS, EPA, FEMA, PPACA, , and government are. I just did half of those in another thread.

My contribution will be against free contraceptives, public schooling, positive discrimination, and for the sake of controversy - "democracy."

Free contraceptives are not free. They come out of someones pocket. A victim who is going to get stolen from whether or not he wants to pay. Free contraceptives spit in the face of personal accountability. If you want to have safe sex, then you pay the bill yourself. Now only if we could get this through the entitled assholes plaguing this nation.

Public schooling can best be described through this meme

It is the training grounds for government slave workbots.

Positive discrimination has to be one of the worst and most contradictory policies the Democrats have come up with yet. First we are told everyone is equal, but to make up for past wrongs, which it must be noted that minorities of today were not subjected to, there has to be discriminatory policies in all walks of life? Do not get me started on how much affirmative action has fucked up higher education for non-minorities.

What happened to Malcolm X, and the other great black community leaders that demanded absolutely nothing except to be left alone by the government? Is there no pride anymore?

Finally, the western misconception of what a democracy is. If democracy is power for the people, I can guarantee you that neither liberals or conservatives act towards that end. The people have never had control in American history. They have always been lorded over by elitists and aristocrats, and the common slave want to defend that as the status quo.

Now I cannot say whether or not many conservatives are hypocritical towards the things you stated, but if they are, then it is on them.

So republicans are even against public education.

Remarkable.

What the fuck do you support?

The idea that public education is the root of all evil is so farfetched. American education was BETTER before there were charter schools, church schools, and home schooling. Funding for education is suffering because of the fracturing of the funds. Americans pay more for education than any other nation, and they pay more out of their own pockets for education than any other nation, and yet they are falling steadily in educational rankings.

Americans used to have the best education system in the world, until the Republicans got their hands on it and decided they could cut education taxes by convincing everyone to get a "better" education. That's really not working.

America's standing in the world started dropping when Reagan and the conservative faction took power and reordered the tax code. Education, medicine, manufacturing - all the fields where Americans used to lead, they're falling further and further behind. Your experiment with conservatism is an abject failure.

Invest an hour of your time and watch this........

My time is too valuable to spend on your wild ass conspiracy theories. You watched too many Saturday morning cartoons as a child.

This is historical footage concerning the Reece Committee and their investigation into tax free foundations and their "end game"...it's not a "conspiracy", it is duly recorded history.

But don't let facts and data stop you from being a flaming leftard moron that posts "fact free" fool fueled rants of nothing of worth. It's not like you have anything else to do with your (snicker) "valuable time"......

 

[Onyx]

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

For starters, I am not a conservative.

And nothing is changing the fact that this is an internet discussion forum. I am here to hone my voice on issues important to me, and maybe even send an idea or two someone else's way.

My internet life is compartmentalized. Any activist projects or grassroots campaigns I may be engaged with in real life are my own business.

 

[owebo]

The result is we opened an alternative school for children 5-18 last week.

That's good for you.

Was this post just a convenient way to plug in your recent accomplishments?

Quit complaining and do something.

You are telling me not to voice opinions or initiate dialogue on an internet discussion site?

I think there is too much talk and not enough action in the world. Conservatives complain constantly about education but do not get involved in change.

Did you notice 2010 and 2012? Not enough commoncore fucking change for you? Hand on, we are sending Trump to permenantly change you.....

 

[Wry Catcher]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

Odd that being so smart you never learned to write anything but simple sentences sans paragraphs.

Please, by all means, pick a topic and debate me.......bring the best that you have and allow me to bury you under an avalanche of facts. You have nothing to lose but what little pride you have left.

I already have, read the OP and provide a response with evidence that the 21st
century conservative isn't defined by what they oppose?

Good luck with that; I await your "avalanche of facts".

 

[Dale Smith]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

Odd that being so smart you never learned to write anything but simple sentences sans paragraphs.

Please, by all means, pick a topic and debate me.......bring the best that you have and allow me to bury you under an avalanche of facts. You have nothing to lose but what little pride you have left.

I already have, read the OP and provide a response with evidence that the 21st
century conservative isn't defined by what they oppose?

Good luck with that; I await your "avalanche of facts".

The organic Constitution is what I am about.....in so much that is the groundwork for a striving Republic, not a democracy...a democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner . I have nothing but disdain for the two party system. Now, tell me and explain to the masses as to how the Fabian socialist left has it "going on" and why I should embrace it and submit to it's agenda, punkinpuss.....

I have very few peers when it comes to the knowledge I have.... and there is no one that can go "toe to toe" with me in a debate or discussion...no brag, simply fact. I would have the Barrypuppet, Hitlery or any neocon looking for the nearest exit if allowed to engage them in an honest debate....you are "small time".....

 

[JBond]

So republicans are even against public education.

Remarkable.

What the fuck do you support?

Are you really that fucking stupid? The silly shit liberals make up in their tiny little brains is always amusing. At this point, you just have to laugh at their pathetic attempts to label people. You sound like the same stupid fucks that claim we want to starve children and old people. In other words you a dumb motherfucker that is incapable of independent thought and all you can do is parrot what your handlers tell to parrot.