What does everyone think of Ben Carson?

[kiwiman127]

I've asked this question before and didn't get any replies. So I think this is the perfect thread to ask the question again.
The following is Dr Carson's stance on healthcare insurance companies:
==================================================
Regulate insurance companies as non-profit services
Today, insurance companies call the shots on what they want to pay, to whom, and when. Consequently, even busy doctors operate with a very slim profit of margin.
This is an ideal place for the intervention of government regulators who, with the help of medical professionals, could establish fair and consistent remuneration. To accomplish this, essentially all of the insurance companies would have to become non-profit service organizations with standardized, regulated profit margins.

This is not the paradigm that I see for all businesses, [but] is uniquely appropriate for the health-insurance industry, which deals with people's lives and quality of existence. That may sound radical, but is it as radical as allowing a company to increase its profits by denying care to sick individuals? In the long run this would also be good for the insurance companies, who could then concentrate on providing good service, rather than focusing on undercutting their competitors and increasing their profit margin.
Ben Carson on Health Care
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Do posters agree or disagree and why?
Personally, I agree.

 

[g5000]

"Okay, Bob, just get out there and say these key triggers and you will be golden with this herd of cattle: America; Hillary fatBenghaziMonica; America; opportunity; Obama satanmuslimkenyansocialist; cut spending; God; America; God; opportunity; freedom; America; opportunity; liberty; cut taxes; jobs America going again."

"And for fuck's sake, Bob, don't forget your flag pin."

 

[Luddly Neddite]

1) What would he do to get the economy going?

2) How would he balance the budget?

3) How would he reduce the federal debt?

4) What would he do about Iran's nuclear weapons program?

5) What would he do about North Korea's nuclear weapons program?

6) What changes or improvements would he make to ObamaCare? If your answer is, "Repeal it", then what would he do to reform healthcare in America after that?

7) What changes or improvements would he make to Medicare?

8) What changes or improvements would he make to Social Security?

9) What reforms would he make to our immigration policy?

10) What changes would he make to the financial services industry?

11) What would he do about ISIS?

12) What would he do about Putin?

13) What is the maximum amount of vacation days per year you would tolerate during a Carson presidency?

14) What is the maximum expenditure for a Carson trip you would tolerate?

15) What is the maximum expenditure for a trip by Candy Carson you would tolerate?

I love to see obama answer those.

Seems he has

Republicans want to impeach him for it

 

[g5000]

I've asked this question before and didn't get any replies. So I think this is the perfect thread to ask the question again.
The following is Dr Carson's stance on healthcare insurance companies:
==================================================
Regulate insurance companies as non-profit services
Today, insurance companies call the shots on what they want to pay, to whom, and when. Consequently, even busy doctors operate with a very slim profit of margin.
This is an ideal place for the intervention of government regulators who, with the help of medical professionals, could establish fair and consistent remuneration. To accomplish this, essentially all of the insurance companies would have to become non-profit service organizations with standardized, regulated profit margins.

This is not the paradigm that I see for all businesses, [but] is uniquely appropriate for the health-insurance industry, which deals with people's lives and quality of existence. That may sound radical, but is it as radical as allowing a company to increase its profits by denying care to sick individuals? In the long run this would also be good for the insurance companies, who could then concentrate on providing good service, rather than focusing on undercutting their competitors and increasing their profit margin.
Ben Carson on Health Care
=====================================================
Do posters agree or disagree and why?
Personally, I agree.

Thank you for this. It fleshes the man out more than, "I think he's really cool!"

However, his proposal is a very liberal position. That's interesting.

 

[g5000]

The problem is not insurance companies, Mr. Carson. In fact, insurance companies have a very thin margin between their payments to healthcare providers and their revenues from premiums. They actually make their money from investing the premiums. Because of that, they were seriously damaged during the Wall Street crash.

I think it would be beneficial to standardize the remuneration system, though. Doctors have to hire way too many people just to sort out all the insurance billing codes. That's just plain stupid.

 

[Iceweasel]

I love to see obama answer those.

I would love to see anyone answer those questions for their candidate. I have been asking these questions for quite a while, whenever anyone says they support this or that person. Yet none of them has ever answered a single one of these questions, which tells you they are absolutely clueless as to why they support their candidate.

What, do they like the way their guy fills out a fucking suit?!?

This demonstrates just how dumbed down the rubes have been conditioned.

They've been answered by numerous Republicans, less spending, better business atmosphere, etc. etc. They can't understand it for you.

 

[g5000]

]They've been answered by numerous Republicans, less spending, better business atmosphere, etc. etc. They can't understand it for you.

"Less spending" is a throwaway phrase that means absolutely nothing. Man, you are an easy sale!

See post 82.

 

[g5000]

"Less spending." Jesus, it does not get more vacuous than that.

Does that mean less tanks? Less fighter jets? Or just the usual attack on food stamps?

Less spending? Does that mean eliminating tax expenditures?

"Less spending" means dick.

 

[g5000]

"Better business atmosphere." WTF does THAT mean?

Oh, that means opportunity!

 

[g5000]

"I will give Putin the finger."

And the idiot crowd goes wild.

 

[g5000]

Here's a campaign bumper sticker for you. We managed to squeeze your entire intellectual capacity on it.

Vote for Hopey McChangepants.

 

[American Horse]

I can't believe that those who complained about Obama's lack of experience would think Carson will be any better.

Carson has no experience in politics, but outside of politics he is way more accomplished than Obozo will ever be.

As i recall Eisenhower had no political experience and couldn't even speak very articulately but he was accomplished. Of course he was also a national hero which Carson is not but could be.

He is very careful and measured and full of common sense. His biggest rational failing is that he thinks he can possibly be president.

He can speak clearly to the issues so he could unite disparate demographics of the country.

I don't think he can win but I would vote for as well as campaign for him door to door and of course I would donate a fairly large sum to his campaign.

 

[kiwiman127]

I've been reading a book of his and I'm liking what I'm hearing.

Although I don't think Ben has a shot at political office in such a corrupt and incestuous political system as the US has now, I think he would be an excellent President.

What say you?

1) What would he do to get the economy going?

2) How would he balance the budget?

3) How would he reduce the federal debt?

4) What would he do about Iran's nuclear weapons program?

5) What would he do about North Korea's nuclear weapons program?

6) What changes or improvements would he make to ObamaCare? If your answer is, "Repeal it", then what would he do to reform healthcare in America after that?

7) What changes or improvements would he make to Medicare?

8) What changes or improvements would he make to Social Security?

9) What reforms would he make to our immigration policy?

10) What changes would he make to the financial services industry?

11) What would he do about ISIS?

12) What would he do about Putin?

13) What is the maximum amount of vacation days per year you would tolerate during a Carson presidency?

14) What is the maximum expenditure for a Carson trip you would tolerate?

15) What is the maximum expenditure for a trip by Candy Carson you would tolerate?

Well this is crazy. Tons of people are going crazy for Dr Ben Carson but they won't answer any precise questions to how he's going to solve issues or about his stand on specific issues (See Post 81).
How can people jump on a bandwagon and not be able to answer why? Would that be a good example of what one ideology likes to expound, "low information voters"?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I've been reading a book of his and I'm liking what I'm hearing.

Although I don't think Ben has a shot at political office in such a corrupt and incestuous political system as the US has now, I think he would be an excellent President.

What say you?

1) What would he do to get the economy going?

2) How would he balance the budget?

3) How would he reduce the federal debt?

4) What would he do about Iran's nuclear weapons program?

5) What would he do about North Korea's nuclear weapons program?

6) What changes or improvements would he make to ObamaCare? If your answer is, "Repeal it", then what would he do to reform healthcare in America after that?

7) What changes or improvements would he make to Medicare?

8) What changes or improvements would he make to Social Security?

9) What reforms would he make to our immigration policy?

10) What changes would he make to the financial services industry?

11) What would he do about ISIS?

12) What would he do about Putin?

13) What is the maximum amount of vacation days per year you would tolerate during a Carson presidency?

14) What is the maximum expenditure for a Carson trip you would tolerate?

15) What is the maximum expenditure for a trip by Candy Carson you would tolerate?

Well this is crazy. Tons of people are going crazy for Dr Ben Carson but they won't answer any precise questions to how he going to solve issues or about his stand on specific issues (See Post 81).
How can people jump on a bandwagon and not be able to answer why? Would that be a good example of what one ideology likes to expound, "low information voters"?

A black GOPer is a like a young blonde GOPer, they instantly love them and want them in front of the cameras. Since they don't know jack-shit either they never bother to check.

 

[Votto]

I've asked this question before and didn't get any replies. So I think this is the perfect thread to ask the question again.
The following is Dr Carson's stance on healthcare insurance companies:
==================================================
Regulate insurance companies as non-profit services
Today, insurance companies call the shots on what they want to pay, to whom, and when. Consequently, even busy doctors operate with a very slim profit of margin.
This is an ideal place for the intervention of government regulators who, with the help of medical professionals, could establish fair and consistent remuneration. To accomplish this, essentially all of the insurance companies would have to become non-profit service organizations with standardized, regulated profit margins.

This is not the paradigm that I see for all businesses, [but] is uniquely appropriate for the health-insurance industry, which deals with people's lives and quality of existence. That may sound radical, but is it as radical as allowing a company to increase its profits by denying care to sick individuals? In the long run this would also be good for the insurance companies, who could then concentrate on providing good service, rather than focusing on undercutting their competitors and increasing their profit margin.
Ben Carson on Health Care
=====================================================
Do posters agree or disagree and why?
Personally, I agree.

Who cares what he thinks? I mean, does anyone really think Obama' plan for health care is all that great either? At least with Ben he will tell us the truth.

I'm pretty sick and tired of anyone claiming to have all the answers. No one does. We were much better letting states like MA choose their own health care for themselves.

We all know what will happen wheher Ben becomes president or not. The GOP will allow Obamacare to continue its destructive course until people will be screaming for them to "fix" things again. So essentially the same people who gave us Obamacare will be selling us single payer with continued lies.

I can't wait, how about you?

 

[deltex1]

I've been reading a book of his and I'm liking what I'm hearing.

Although I don't think Ben has a shot at political office in such a corrupt and incestuous political system as the US has now, I think he would be an excellent President.

What say you?

If I were to have brain surgery I would go with Ben over Barack. There is scant evidence that Barack even has a brain.

 

[American Horse]

I've asked this question before and didn't get any replies. So I think this is the perfect thread to ask the question again.
The following is Dr Carson's stance on healthcare insurance companies:
==================================================
Regulate insurance companies as non-profit services
Today, insurance companies call the shots on what they want to pay, to whom, and when. Consequently, even busy doctors operate with a very slim profit of margin.
This is an ideal place for the intervention of government regulators who, with the help of medical professionals, could establish fair and consistent remuneration. To accomplish this, essentially all of the insurance companies would have to become non-profit service organizations with standardized, regulated profit margins.

This is not the paradigm that I see for all businesses, [but] is uniquely appropriate for the health-insurance industry, which deals with people's lives and quality of existence. That may sound radical, but is it as radical as allowing a company to increase its profits by denying care to sick individuals? In the long run this would also be good for the insurance companies, who could then concentrate on providing good service, rather than focusing on undercutting their competitors and increasing their profit margin.
Ben Carson on Health Care
=====================================================
Do posters agree or disagree and why?
Personally, I agree.

That's just nuts; insurance companies are already heavily regulated within the states. Every state has an insurance commissioner.

No insurance company can just deny a claim if that claim falls within the coverage defined in the insurance contract, nor can an insured be dropped unless they fail to pay their premium or have submitted a fraudulent application to obtain insurance in the first place.

What he is proposing is making Health Insurers into public utilities meaning that the discipline provided by the review of services by the insurers will be on a par with Medicare.

Each month that goes by I see Explanation Of Benifit statements with costs for items i've been provided exorbitantly multiplied even hundreds of times to ultimately be reviewed and reduced by the insurance company to at least somewhat reasonable pricing albeit still too much in dollars.

I look at these EOBs and just wonder, yet I let them go without complaint because I'm getting what I need within my coverage but still I see a huge magnifying effect to these items to the free joys detriment of folks who are uninsured and must pay out of pocket.

It's the interference of government that has produced that cause and effect .

I bought my family's HI in the private market from 1965 til 2009 and never had a bad experience with several (five including surgeries) hospitalizations and only paid nominally for both the services and the insurance.

Now that both my spouse and I are on Medicare, of course we're getting good care (still not free) but we're seeing very problematic and unrealistic pricing for providers to get close to what they need to stay in business.

 

[kiwiman127]

I've asked this question before and didn't get any replies. So I think this is the perfect thread to ask the question again.
The following is Dr Carson's stance on healthcare insurance companies:
==================================================
Regulate insurance companies as non-profit services
Today, insurance companies call the shots on what they want to pay, to whom, and when. Consequently, even busy doctors operate with a very slim profit of margin.
This is an ideal place for the intervention of government regulators who, with the help of medical professionals, could establish fair and consistent remuneration. To accomplish this, essentially all of the insurance companies would have to become non-profit service organizations with standardized, regulated profit margins.

This is not the paradigm that I see for all businesses, [but] is uniquely appropriate for the health-insurance industry, which deals with people's lives and quality of existence. That may sound radical, but is it as radical as allowing a company to increase its profits by denying care to sick individuals? In the long run this would also be good for the insurance companies, who could then concentrate on providing good service, rather than focusing on undercutting their competitors and increasing their profit margin.
Ben Carson on Health Care
=====================================================
Do posters agree or disagree and why?
Personally, I agree.

Who cares what he thinks? I mean, does anyone really think Obama' plan for health care is all that great either? At least with Ben he will tell us the truth.

I'm pretty sick and tired of anyone claiming to have all the answers. No one does. We were much better letting states like MA choose their own health care for themselves.

We all know what will happen wheher Ben becomes president or not. The GOP will allow Obamacare to continue its destructive course until people will be screaming for them to "fix" things again. So essentially the same people who gave us Obamacare will be selling us single payer with continued lies.

I can't wait, how about you?

Considering the Obamacare mandate which I am 100% against and I am also against Americans getting raped for the cost of healthcare compared to the rest of the world, I'd like to see Pubic Option because it might actually make healthcare insurance more competitive. But we would still have the rest of the healthcare industry dictating the cost of healthcare, which as led the US to have the highest cost of healthcare in the world.
The US and Turkey are the only countries in the world where the government doesn't negotiate healthcare costs with the providers. In the US that have led to our cost to run out of control. Medicare negotiates with providers, pays less and has seen smaller annual costs increases than the private sector.
Let's get real here. If the cost of healthcare in America was competitive with the rest of the world, healthcare insurance wouldn't be so expensive and more Americans could afford healthcare insurance.

 

[JoeMoma]

I like Ben Carson and I am willing to consider giving him my vote if he runs. As for as what he would do as president, those are a lot of questions that he will have to answer if he runs.

Will he win if he runs, probably not. That being said, it is easy to be right almost all of the time predicting who will not be elected president, after all, there will only be one opening but a multitude of candidates.

 

[kiwiman127]

I've asked this question before and didn't get any replies. So I think this is the perfect thread to ask the question again.
The following is Dr Carson's stance on healthcare insurance companies:
==================================================
Regulate insurance companies as non-profit services
Today, insurance companies call the shots on what they want to pay, to whom, and when. Consequently, even busy doctors operate with a very slim profit of margin.
This is an ideal place for the intervention of government regulators who, with the help of medical professionals, could establish fair and consistent remuneration. To accomplish this, essentially all of the insurance companies would have to become non-profit service organizations with standardized, regulated profit margins.

This is not the paradigm that I see for all businesses, [but] is uniquely appropriate for the health-insurance industry, which deals with people's lives and quality of existence. That may sound radical, but is it as radical as allowing a company to increase its profits by denying care to sick individuals? In the long run this would also be good for the insurance companies, who could then concentrate on providing good service, rather than focusing on undercutting their competitors and increasing their profit margin.
Ben Carson on Health Care
=====================================================
Do posters agree or disagree and why?
Personally, I agree.

That's just nuts; insurance companies are already heavily regulated within the states. Every state has an insurance commissioner.

No insurance company can just deny a claim if that claim falls within the coverage defined in the insurance contract, nor can an insured be dropped unless they fail to pay their premium or have submitted a fraudulent application to obtain insurance in the first place.

What he is proposing is making Health Insurers into public utilities meaning that the discipline provided by the review of services by the insurers will be on a par with Medicare.

Each month that goes by I see Explanation Of Benifit statements with costs for items i've been provided exorbitantly multiplied even hundreds of times to ultimately be reviewed and reduced by the insurance company to at least somewhat reasonable pricing albeit still too much in dollars.

I look at these EOBs and just wonder, yet I let them go without complaint because I'm getting what I need within my coverage but still I see a huge magnifying effect to these items to the free joys detriment of folks who are uninsured and must pay out of pocket.

It's the interference of government that has produced that cause and effect .

I bought my family's HI in the private market from 1965 til 2009 and never had a bad experience with several (five including surgeries) hospitalizations and only paid nominally for both the services and the insurance.

Now that both my spouse and I are on Medicare, of course we're getting good care (still not free) but we're seeing very problematic and unrealistic pricing for providers to get close to what they need to stay in business.

Sometimes regulations can be good. Minnesota heavily regulates the healthcare industry. We have the top rated healthcare system in the country. Minnesota is always rated in the top 3 as being the healthiest state and we have the cheapest healthcare insurance in the country. And large out-of-state healthcare provider entities are attempting to develop new markets in Minnesota regularly.
It's really depends on what is regulated, how it's regulated or it's a friggen miracle!!!