What is feminism today?

[westwall]

with out that preface ...




sure it does. it would show you as not being presumptuous. but like i said.... it matters not what you think.




LOL!!!!! 'triggered' .... LOL!!!!!! ya....... that the ticket!

Yeah, you ARE triggered.

 

[BlackSand]

LOL!!!!! 'triggered' .... LOL!!!!!! ya....... that the ticket!

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You made numerous statements about the gender gap in pay.
Then you made a statement that very well could lead someone to an assumption.

The poster that triggered you didn't assume anything and asked you for clarification.
Then you went off on them like they had done something wrong and accused them doing what you failed to avoid directing them towards.

You both sold and bought that ticket, and at no consequence to the other poster ...

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[Remodeling Maidiac]

Feminism in America, a traditionally leftist view, has changed, a lot over the past 70 years, and I think it's time we women re-evaluate what it means to be a feminist TODAY and what are and are not doing or what we should be doing. It's been accused of being a white elitist movement, and I have to agree there is an element of truth in that statement. It's also been accused of being out of touch with many women in America and elsewhere. There is truth there as well, at least if you go by the most vocal and politically active elements.

What does feminism mean today? Acknowledging something that, decades ago would have been sacrilege. We, as women, really are the guardians of family, culture, education, community strength and, often unacknowledged - diplomacy over war. IMO (and this is controversial and maybe even sexist) - women are more invested in the long term than men: climate change, global health issues, long term consequences that shape the world their children will inhabit. Feminism needs to move beyond equal rights for largely white corporate American women and needs to recognize that women in all walks of life are part of the sisterhood, regardless of politics, ethnicity, race, religion, nationality. Our outlook needs to focus inward to the community level and outward on a global scale. What is happening to women elsewhere in the world?

We used to have to fight for recognition that we were the equal of men in any job because at the time that was a battle of fundamental rights (and by and large we are equal) but in doing so we also had to deny some fundamental differences and those differences are important in what we should imo be focusing on in feminism.

This is my list:

First off, the global view - supporting our women everywhere and it's fundamental underpinning, freedom of choice and individual autonomy, everywhere in the world. The right to safety from violence, the right to determine whether or not to bear children, the right to an education, the right to choose freely who they will partner with. The right to equal treatment under their justice system. The right to free movement. The right to medical care. All of these things are denied to women in various parts of the world, because they are women.

Second, the community level. What's the use of shattering the glass ceiling when you have to raise your children in a drug and violence infested neighborhood, always afraid the streets will seduce your child or he or she will become another random victim of violence? What's the point if you don't have clean drinking water, or your daughter gets married off at 14, or her denied an education beyond primary school? Feminism shouldn't be looking down on the grandmother who isn't out there in corporate America but is instead investing her energy in family, and maybe she is the primary force behind pushing for an education in her grandchildren so they can get out of the trap, and maybe she is the one providing free baby sitting for a single mother with an erratic schedule who is also trying to go to school. There are a lot of hidden things women do that get looked down upon but are in reality feminism and a quite strength.

Something to think about - what is feminism?

I would be curious to hear other points of view.

That is what the feminism movement has turned into. I know it's a long video but I behoove you to watch it.
Feminists like the left in general have allowed a very toxic element of society to co opt their agenda. Wokeism is destroying everything those two entities have built. They have effectively boiled down every issue in modern society to isms and attached those tropes to ANYONE who doesn't agree with them. That mistake removes ANY CHANCE for an open or HONEST dialog.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I do get that. But I also wonder how that compares to the issue of child marriage?

No idea who how the two are remotely related.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

how ironic that ireland now allows women to choose for themselves whether they want to become a parent, while that choice now puts a bounty on our heads & will soon be taken away altogether.

True.

Again, it’s remarkable to consider that America will soon be relegated to third world status in the industrialized West; that unlike women in other Western countries, women in the United States will have lost their right to privacy and personal autonomy, subject to the capricious whims of partisan politics.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Are you one of those weirdos who pretend to care about women?

Try answering.

Is a tranny a woman?

Can men get pregnant?

Are birthing people found in dozens of different genders?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Clearly you don’t read what I say.

Your OP was a lot of words to say "feminism is abortion."

We get it, you're a single issue ghoul.

 

[Orangecat]

To me, feminism is an unnecessary distraction from my belief that all people are equal. I'm not a fan of dividing people into groups, assigning grievances and stirring up resentments, and using that divisive tool for political means. Each life is an individual experience, with its own unique blessings, curses, and challenges. Each individual can choose to feel they have been victimized by their situation or strive to rise above it and lead a happy, productive, and successful life.
Is your glass half full, or half empty?
Are you a helpless victim of your circumstance or a bold navigator of your space and time allotment?
You are the only one who can make that choice.

 

[BlackSand]

Your OP was a lot of words to say "feminism is abortion."

We get it, you're a single issue ghoul.

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The topic is the request of the OP to open a discussion that involves a Sisterhood Sorority ...
That has the intent of women supporting each other in regards to a multitude of issues that affect women
and does include abortion, among other things, in that discussion.

I'm sorry ... But at no point did I get the impression she was asking a man to tell her what she meant
or define the parameters of what she desired to discuss ...

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[task0778]

We are so divided these days into groups or tribes I guess. And they all want everybody else to help solve their problems or issues instead of fixing whatever it is by themselves. But what we're doing is creating a pretty big burden on future generations (debt) and we aren't working on solutions that could actually help if we worked together. But we don't, and frankly it doesn't feel like we're going to start doing that either. Instead, we add to the pile of problems/concerns, ignore some existing problems and blow others out of proportion to some degree. Maybe I'm wrong (nothing new there), but to me most of it stems from an unwillingness to accept responsibility for our decisions and actions. For example, abortion shouldn't be the issue that it is if men and women didn't have unprotected sex then we wouldn't have to fight about abortion, right? All that money that goes into abortions today could be put to better use in other areas like childcare. Why are we pushing harder for contraceptives, making them free instead of free abortions? We are creating our own problems, aren't we?

 

[Concerned American]

Oh man not only are you a liar, you can't even comprehend simple English sentences. She wasnt talking about benevolent organizations you dumb hillbilly. You're as dumb as a box of rocks.

You need to quit rattling around in your own head and get with the program. If you had kept with the thread, you would realize that she was responding to my assertion that the non governmental benevolent public (organizations) should be where aid comes from--not the taxpayer. You have shown yourself to be a young stupid fuck that needs to STFU. Moron.

 

[john doe 101]

You need to quit rattling around in your own head and get with the program. If you had kept with the thread, you would realize that she was responding to my assertion that the non governmental benevolent public (organizations) should be where aid comes from--not the taxpayer. You have shown yourself to be a young stupid fuck that needs to STFU. Moron.

YOu think people should have to depend on charity like go fund me pages to survive. What happens if nobody donates? I guess oh well that person dies. Yes governments should provide safety nets for those in need. LOL at depending on charity.

What lies are you going to come up with today. The one yesterday you provided was pretty good. Can you top that one today? We shall see!

 

[WelfareQueen]

Feminism in America, a traditionally leftist view, has changed, a lot over the past 70 years, and I think it's time we women re-evaluate what it means to be a feminist TODAY and what are and are not doing or what we should be doing. It's been accused of being a white elitist movement, and I have to agree there is an element of truth in that statement. It's also been accused of being out of touch with many women in America and elsewhere. There is truth there as well, at least if you go by the most vocal and politically active elements.

What does feminism mean today? Acknowledging something that, decades ago would have been sacrilege. We, as women, really are the guardians of family, culture, education, community strength and, often unacknowledged - diplomacy over war. IMO (and this is controversial and maybe even sexist) - women are more invested in the long term than men: climate change, global health issues, long term consequences that shape the world their children will inhabit. Feminism needs to move beyond equal rights for largely white corporate American women and needs to recognize that women in all walks of life are part of the sisterhood, regardless of politics, ethnicity, race, religion, nationality. Our outlook needs to focus inward to the community level and outward on a global scale. What is happening to women elsewhere in the world?

We used to have to fight for recognition that we were the equal of men in any job because at the time that was a battle of fundamental rights (and by and large we are equal) but in doing so we also had to deny some fundamental differences and those differences are important in what we should imo be focusing on in feminism.

This is my list:

First off, the global view - supporting our women everywhere and it's fundamental underpinning, freedom of choice and individual autonomy, everywhere in the world. The right to safety from violence, the right to determine whether or not to bear children, the right to an education, the right to choose freely who they will partner with. The right to equal treatment under their justice system. The right to free movement. The right to medical care. All of these things are denied to women in various parts of the world, because they are women.

Second, the community level. What's the use of shattering the glass ceiling when you have to raise your children in a drug and violence infested neighborhood, always afraid the streets will seduce your child or he or she will become another random victim of violence? What's the point if you don't have clean drinking water, or your daughter gets married off at 14, or her denied an education beyond primary school? Feminism shouldn't be looking down on the grandmother who isn't out there in corporate America but is instead investing her energy in family, and maybe she is the primary force behind pushing for an education in her grandchildren so they can get out of the trap, and maybe she is the one providing free baby sitting for a single mother with an erratic schedule who is also trying to go to school. There are a lot of hidden things women do that get looked down upon but are in reality feminism and a quite strength.

Something to think about - what is feminism?

I would be curious to hear other points of view.

Feminism is in the dust bin of history. It got killed by wokism and Baskin Robbins 57 gender flavors.

White women are now the enemy. You are all Karens. You must be destroyed along with all white men.

And Coyote, I am not kidding.

 

[Concerned American]

(D)s don't want to turn females into incubators.

It is very clear you want to have all the fun but none of the responsibility. When you spread your legs--make sure your partner doesn't make you an incubator, moron. It is not the public's responsibility and it will prevent unnecessary murder.

 

[john doe 101]

It is very clear you want to have all the fun but none of the responsibility. When you spread your legs--make sure your partner doesn't make you an incubator, moron. It is not the public's responsibility and it will prevent unnecessary murder.

Hey I didnt know you were an incel as well. You meet the rest of your incel buddies on here?

 

[Anomalism]

True.

Again, it’s remarkable to consider that America will soon be relegated to third world status in the industrialized West; that unlike women in other Western countries, women in the United States will have lost their right to privacy and personal autonomy, subject to the capricious whims of partisan politics.

That's not going to happen. This abortion legislation will bite them in the ass. At most it will temporarily be a hindrance.

 

[Concerned American]

YOu think people should have to depend on charity like go fund me pages to survive.

Nope, moron parasite, I think people should stand on their own two feet. I didn't take you to raise and it is not the public's responsibility. Thankfully we have many charitable people and organizations that do a commendable job in taking up the slack for the unfortunate among us. The government is not designed to be your charity of choice.

 

[Concerned American]

Hey I didnt know you were an incel as well. You meet the rest of your incel buddies on here?

Again, please keep on topic moron.

 

[john doe 101]

Nope, moron parasite, I think people should stand on their own two feet. I didn't take you to raise and it is not the public's responsibility. Thankfully we have many charitable people and organizations that do a commendable job in taking up the slack for the unfortunate among us. The government is not designed to be your charity of choice.

Oh hey look another right winger that since something hasnt happened to them, they dont understand why people need financial help. You didnt answer my question though. What if charities run out of money/resources? Then what?

You're a monster. Oh and I guess we can now add incel to the list that includes you being a liar.

 

[john doe 101]

Again, please keep on topic moron.

You're the one telling women to keep their legs closed, incel.