What is the republican solution to ending mass shootings? Why don’t they ever offer solutions?

[LaDexter]

"I support the Democrats on gun control"

 

[Lesh]

Godwin's Law violation.

Go sit in the corner

 

[Lesh]

You fucking idiots pretend not to understand how serious suicide is and how pertinent to the gun discussion it is

A bullet to the head is final. There is no pumping the stomach. There is no help. One twitch of the finger and it's over.

So yes...guns are an important element in suicide discussions.

Not to mention the fact that most mass shootings are in fact suicides that include untold numbers of innocents

I repeat

 

[12icer]

Repeat as much as you like you are wrong.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You fucking idiots pretend not to understand how serious suicide is and how pertinent to the gun discussion it is

A bullet to the head is final. There is no pumping the stomach. There is no help. One twitch of the finger and it's over.

So yes...guns are an important element in suicide discussions.

Not to mention the fact that most mass shootings are in fact suicides that include untold numbers of innocents

I repeat

And I repeat

Suicide is a choice.
I will argue that the choice to live or die is the single most important choice a person can make but we all know how you people feel about others having choices don't we?

 

[Lesh]

Repeat as much as you like you are wrong.

How exactly am I wrong?

Are you claiming that a bullet to the head is NOT almost always fatal?

Are you claiming that most mass shootings AREN'T suicides?

Because if you are you are being stupidly dishonest

 

[Lesh]

Guns are used in only 6% of suicide attempts but account for HALF of successful suicides

10 Essential Facts About Guns and Suicide

Chew on that for a while and tell me that guns aren't an important part of the suicide discussion or vice versa

 

[Skull Pilot]

Guns are used in only 6% of suicide attempts but account for HALF of successful suicides

10 Essential Facts About Guns and Suicide

Chew on that for a while and tell me that guns aren't an important part of the suicide discussion or vice versa

again so what?

Suicide is a choice not a crime

 

[toomuchtime_]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

It is not astounding at all, since there is no solution to gun violence in the US. As the recent mass shooting in Ca. showed, tougher gun control laws don't prevent mass shootings, and such laws will not keep guns out of the hands of gangs, drug dealers and other criminals. As things stand now, if you say, no, to every bad idea about ending gun violence, you've said, no, to all ideas about how to end gun violence since ther are no good ideas on the subject.

Perhaps we need to enforce the laws on the books and get the mentally ill into hospitals where they can be treated and prevented from having a firearm.

That would do nothing to address most of the gun violence and giving the government the power to lock people up because of what they might do is very dangerous.

Bull. Enforcing the laws we have now and getting help for the mentally ill would address gun violence in the MOST effective way. If you have to lie, you have nothing to say.

You clearly haven't thought your way through any of this. The existing gun laws are, for the most part, being enforced and locking people up, as you are suggesting, because you think they might do something would be repugnant to almost all Americans and certainly a dangerous violation of our civil rights.

 

[g5000]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

California has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country. How would additional laws have prevented this catastrophe?

California's homicide rate is just below the national average.

Whereas most of the states above the national average are red states with lax gun laws.

 

[LaDexter]

Whereas most of the states above the national average are red states with lax gun laws

Yeah, like DC and Chicago....

LMAO!!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

California has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country. How would additional laws have prevented this catastrophe?

California's homicide rate is just below the national average.

Whereas most of the states above the national average are red states with lax gun laws.

Wow are you ever WRONG

UT is considered to have the most lax gun laws in the country and what's the murder rate in UT?

in 2017 the murder rate of CA was 4.6 per 100000
The murder rate in UT was 2.4 per 100000

NH has had the lowest murder rate in the country at 1 per 100000 in 2017

NH gun laws are far less restrictive than those of CA

You might want to actually do some research before you say shit so you won't sound like such a fucking idiot.

 

[hunarcy]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

It is not astounding at all, since there is no solution to gun violence in the US. As the recent mass shooting in Ca. showed, tougher gun control laws don't prevent mass shootings, and such laws will not keep guns out of the hands of gangs, drug dealers and other criminals. As things stand now, if you say, no, to every bad idea about ending gun violence, you've said, no, to all ideas about how to end gun violence since ther are no good ideas on the subject.

Perhaps we need to enforce the laws on the books and get the mentally ill into hospitals where they can be treated and prevented from having a firearm.

That would do nothing to address most of the gun violence and giving the government the power to lock people up because of what they might do is very dangerous.

Bull. Enforcing the laws we have now and getting help for the mentally ill would address gun violence in the MOST effective way. If you have to lie, you have nothing to say.

You clearly haven't thought your way through any of this. The existing gun laws are, for the most part, being enforced and locking people up, as you are suggesting, because you think they might do something would be repugnant to almost all Americans and certainly a dangerous violation of our civil rights.

You are clearly posting when you don't know what you're talking about.
When gun buyers are caught in 'lie-and-try,' how many are prosecuted? 12

 

[miketx]

----------------------- i don't agree with you but boy , you worry alot . And the way it is now , heck there are armed people both criminal and law abiders all over the place and the criminals are your enemies RWinger .

33,000 gun deaths a year
That is a lot of armed assholes

2/3 of those are suicides

Suicide is a choice not a crime

2/3 of suicides choose guns
Dead is dead

And if someone make the choices to be dead it's none of your business

Of course it is

I don't like to see people die unnecessarily

Then why are you a gun grabber?

 

[rightwinger]

Suicide is not relevant in a discussion about gun control. You need to get your facts about suicide correct, not all suicides attempts by gun are fatal. A lot are with 22s and are survived and recovered from completely. I can tell you one you can use that is 100 percent effective lay down across a railroad track. Should we ban trains? Same argument!

Dead is dead
The chance of changing your mind in a gun suicide is much lower when your brain is spattered all over the wall

 

[Skull Pilot]

Suicide is not relevant in a discussion about gun control. You need to get your facts about suicide correct, not all suicides attempts by gun are fatal. A lot are with 22s and are survived and recovered from completely. I can tell you one you can use that is 100 percent effective lay down across a railroad track. Should we ban trains? Same argument!

Dead is dead
The chance of changing your mind in a gun suicide is much lower when your brain is spattered all over the wall

You can change your mind anytime you want before you pull the trigger.

But if someone does pull the trigger it is their choice why don't you want them to have choices?

 

[Lesh]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

California has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country. How would additional laws have prevented this catastrophe?

California's homicide rate is just below the national average.

Whereas most of the states above the national average are red states with lax gun laws.

Wow are you ever WRONG

UT is considered to have the most lax gun laws in the country and what's the murder rate in UT?

in 2017 the murder rate of CA was 4.6 per 100000
The murder rate in UT was 2.4 per 100000

NH has had the lowest murder rate in the country at 1 per 100000 in 2017

NH gun laws are far less restrictive than those of CA

You might want to actually do some research before you say shit so you won't sound like such a fucking idiot.

Huh?

States with the most (and least) gun violence. See where your state stacks up.

 

[g5000]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

California has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country. How would additional laws have prevented this catastrophe?

California's homicide rate is just below the national average.

Whereas most of the states above the national average are red states with lax gun laws.

Wow are you ever WRONG

UT is considered to have the most lax gun laws in the country and what's the murder rate in UT?

in 2017 the murder rate of CA was 4.6 per 100000
The murder rate in UT was 2.4 per 100000

NH has had the lowest murder rate in the country at 1 per 100000 in 2017

NH gun laws are far less restrictive than those of CA

You might want to actually do some research before you say shit so you won't sound like such a fucking idiot.

The top ten homicides states are all red. You have to get to the 15th state before you find a blue one (Nevada), and then the 20th state before you find another one (Colorado).

You are the one who has not done his research.

 

[12icer]

Hah I would like to see a real chart on that. Liberals have away of twisting stats like giving a percentage for the stats in Chicago vs a city with 10,000 that has a gang problem like a border town. So show the real stars for the lie.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Okay, so any level gun control is bad which is of course retarded on its own, but the right can’t even think of any alternatives to curbing gun violence. Saying “no” to everything accomplishes absolutely nothing. It’s astounding we are still at square one.

California has some of the most strict gun control laws in the country. How would additional laws have prevented this catastrophe?

California's homicide rate is just below the national average.

Whereas most of the states above the national average are red states with lax gun laws.

Wow are you ever WRONG

UT is considered to have the most lax gun laws in the country and what's the murder rate in UT?

in 2017 the murder rate of CA was 4.6 per 100000
The murder rate in UT was 2.4 per 100000

NH has had the lowest murder rate in the country at 1 per 100000 in 2017

NH gun laws are far less restrictive than those of CA

You might want to actually do some research before you say shit so you won't sound like such a fucking idiot.

The top ten homicides states are all red. You have to get to the 15th state before you find a blue one (Nevada), and then the 20th state before you find another one (Colorado).

You are the one who has not done his research.

That's NOT what you said

you said that CA has a murder rate equal to the country average all the states with lax gun laws have higher murder rates than the average

you were wrong just admit it

and FYI I never mentioned red or blue states because that is quite irrelevant to the false claim you made