What James Madison (1793 Founder of Republican Party and author of Constitution) said about how lib

Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

1) conservatives are for limited govt so conservatives would be Jefferson and Madison as opposed to Adams and Hamilton who wanted unlimited govt

2) another definition hold that conservatives are against change so the would be those loyal to England before the revolution, and those loyal to Articles of Confederation and opposed to Constitution after the Revolution.
 
I just love reading revisionist conservative history

It's so.... creative. In a desperate, flailing, gasping-for-breath kind of way.
Wait....it only gets better

They now claim MLK was a Republican and JFK was conservative

JFK was a Conservative, more of a Conservative than 98% of he Republican Party -- and he got killed for it
Too funny

JFK was as liberal as they come

Now tell me how Jesus was a conservative too
 
Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

1) conservatives are for limited govt so conservatives would be Jefferson and Madison as opposed to Adams and Hamilton who wanted unlimited govt

2) another definition hold that conservatives are against change so the would be those loyal to England before the revolution, and those loyal to Articles of Confederation and opposed to Constitution after the Revolution.
Wrong again crazy Eddie

Conservatives back the status quo. Status quo was the King of England

Limited government is a modern interpretation
 
JFK was as liberal as they come
“But the most direct and significant kind of Federal action aiding economic growth is to make possible an increase in private consumption and investment demand—to cut the fetters which hold back private spending.If Government is to retain the confidence of the people, it must not spend more than can be justified on grounds of national need or spent with maximum efficiency.The final and best means of strengthening demand among consumers and business is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system; and this administration pledged itself last summer to an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes to be enacted and become effective in 1963.” President Kennedy goes on to say “I am talking about the accumulated evidence of the last five years that our present tax system, developed as it was, in good part, during World War II to restrain growth, exerts too heavy a burden on growth in peace time; that it siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power; that it reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking…In short, to increase demand and lift the economy, the Federal Government’s most useful role is not to push into a program of excessive increases in public expenditures, but to expand the incentives and opportunities for private expenditures…When consumers purchase more goods, plants use more of their capacity, men are hired instead of laid off, investment increases and profits are high. Corporate tax rates must also be cut to increase incentives and the availability of investment capital.”-John Kennedy
 
Conservatives back the status quo.

yes at one point that loyalty to England, then loyalty to Articles of Confederation, and loyalty to Hitler Stalin and Mao when they were the status quo. Do you think this is too complicated for you?
 
JFK was as liberal as they come
“But the most direct and significant kind of Federal action aiding economic growth is to make possible an increase in private consumption and investment demand—to cut the fetters which hold back private spending.If Government is to retain the confidence of the people, it must not spend more than can be justified on grounds of national need or spent with maximum efficiency.The final and best means of strengthening demand among consumers and business is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system; and this administration pledged itself last summer to an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes to be enacted and become effective in 1963.” President Kennedy goes on to say “I am talking about the accumulated evidence of the last five years that our present tax system, developed as it was, in good part, during World War II to restrain growth, exerts too heavy a burden on growth in peace time; that it siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power; that it reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking…In short, to increase demand and lift the economy, the Federal Government’s most useful role is not to push into a program of excessive increases in public expenditures, but to expand the incentives and opportunities for private expenditures…When consumers purchase more goods, plants use more of their capacity, men are hired instead of laid off, investment increases and profits are high. Corporate tax rates must also be cut to increase incentives and the availability of investment capital.”-John Kennedy
JFK set a top level tax rate of 70 percent

Does that make him conservative? I’m willing to go to that rate in deference to conservatism
 
JFK set a top level tax rate of 70 percent

Does that make him conservative? I’m willing to go to that rate in deference to conservatism

top rate means nothing since nobody paid it. Gov't then collect far less as % of GDP. Still want to go back???
 
Now explain to the nice people who the conservatives were during our founding

1) conservatives are for limited govt so conservatives would be Jefferson and Madison as opposed to Adams and Hamilton who wanted unlimited govt

2) another definition hold that conservatives are against change so the would be those loyal to England before the revolution, and those loyal to Articles of Confederation and opposed to Constitution after the Revolution.
Wrong again crazy Eddie

Conservatives back the status quo. Status quo was the King of England

Limited government is a modern interpretation

Too funny. The philosophy of limited government is no modern contrivance. Here's some Cliff's-like notes for you.

John Locke - Wikipedia
 
Conservatives back the status quo.

yes at one point that loyalty to England, then loyalty to Articles of Confederation, and loyalty to Hitler Stalin and Mao when they were the status quo. Do you think this is too complicated for you?

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you said conservatives back status quo so those who opposed Hitler were conservatives and those who wanted change to Hitler Stalin and Mao were liberals-right????
 
JFK set a top level tax rate of 70 percent

Does that make him conservative? I’m willing to go to that rate in deference to conservatism

top rate means nothing since nobody paid it. Gov't then collect far less as % of GDP. Still want to go back???
Nobody pays it now

You willing to go to “conservative JFKs” upper tax rate?
 
Madison is not the founder of the Republican Party.

Republican Party founded - Mar 20, 1854 - HISTORY.com

So who founded Republican party in 1793??
What part of “the Republican Party was founded in 1854” do you not understand.

Remember when Lincoln became the second candidate of the Republican Party in 1797?

why so afraid to tell us what Party Jefferson founded in 1793??? What do we learn from your fear?
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