What Kind of Person is Supporting Trump?

Ten months my home paid off I'm 45. Live on a lake, living the dream. I just understand Ford paid well because a union made them. And non union companies paid better for fear of unionization and competition with union wages.

As unions have disappeared wages have declined. No coincidence
Wages have declined because the economy has declined. No coincidence. Businesses are flocking out of the US, explain how increasing their costs will motivate them to stay or come back.
Why did the economy decline? Too many jobs went overseas. No coincidence. Apparently American workers want too much.
You didn't explain how increasing costs brings them back. Give it another go.
If they don't come back they can't do business here, or they pay tariffs. I'm sure they have American competitors that would love to have their business.

China doesn't let corporations just come sell to their citizens without having plants in China and I'm sure those corporations pay their fair share. No?
If the companies don't come back they can't do business here? That's going to increase job opportunities? Milwaukee sold to a Chinese company, so the brand would be banned here? Do you think this stuff through?
Do you understand the flaw in your thinking?

A. China wants something that is produced in milwalkee? Great. Sell it to them. But China says if you want to sell that product to the Chinese you have to make it in China.

B. Are you implying trade with China is fair?

C. That company can have two plants. One here and one in China. They can't make it in China because China says so, then try to ship your American suppliers from China. Like China would ID tariff those imports. Have two plants.
 
My dad was a cook at Ford 1975-1995 and was able to raise two kids.

Do Republicans want to return to those days?
The way you turned out? Fuck no.
Ten months my home paid off I'm 45. Live on a lake, living the dream. I just understand Ford paid well because a union made them. And non union companies paid better for fear of unionization and competition with union wages.

As unions have disappeared wages have declined. No coincidence
Wages have declined because the economy has declined. No coincidence. Businesses are flocking out of the US, explain how increasing their costs will motivate them to stay or come back.
Why did the economy decline? Too many jobs went overseas. No coincidence. Apparently American workers want too much.

That is part of it, but the bigger part were the unions that forced companies to pay extreme wages and benefits to people that did monkey jobs. That created inflation and we priced ourselves out of the world market.
 
There isn't a shred of evidence that Trump is a racist. That's a meme that Democrats have pulled out in every election.
No but republican policies are racist.

Which Republican policies are racist?
Any of them that keep wages down or defunds safety nets that help cities with high crime and poverty

So the Democrat policy of flooding this country with cheap foreign labor is racist?

BTW, welfare creates crime. It doesn't reduce crime.
Don't act like Republicans were against legal or illegal immigration. Republicans are good at flip flops

The establishment RINOs have always supported illegal immigration, but the rank and file have always wanted to put a stop to it. That's why the establishment Republicans are now being purged. Democrats, on the other hand, have supported it with gusto. Just take note of how they attack Trump for saying he wants to build a wall. Consider sanctuary cities. Hillary and Bernie both support amnesty.
 
The way I see it it's not a liberal/ conservative thing. It's more about a political correctness thing.

Give the Republicans some credit. They are trying to change the party unlike the Democrats who simply march in lockstep and drifting further and further left.

Tea Party or Establishment, they all have promised us things and not delivered. That's because for the most part, they are professional politicians and their lives depend on staying in politics.

The message here is that we are sick of professional politicians. Say this and do that. Their only concern after getting elected is their reelection, and they are willing to sell their first born to get that reelection.

One of the attractions of Trump is that he doesn't care. If we elect him President, fine, he'll take the job. If we don't elect him President, fine, he's got plenty of other things to do. His life doesn't depend on politics or money. Therefore he means what he says. He doesn't back down from anybody including the politically correct leftist media.

So, we can expect all 24 GOP candidates to lose their Senate re-election campaigns then right? I mean, you said:

"Tea Party or Establishment, they all have promised us things and not delivered. That's because for the most part, they are professional politicians and their lives depend on staying in politics. "

We should be hearing about Senators like Ayotte, Portman and Rubio to get primaried then...right?

If they stand for re-election in the fall, it simply means that the GOP is no more (or less) angry at their members of congress than the Democrats.

Well when it comes to voting, most of us don't vote a candidate in because we love them so much, we are more concerned with keeping the worst candidate out.

Much like past elections, I won't be voting for Trump, Rubio, Cruz or even Kasich if he makes it. I'll be voting to keep Hillary out of the White House.

Maybe at a later date, you can let us know how it feels to have no spine or conviction. Not today. I'm proudly voting for HRC because she is the best qualified person to seek the office since Bush 41. That is a fact. It's great to not have to "settle" for one of her larger supporters.

She's also a criminal that hasn't been caught yet, and you're criticizing my voting criteria?

You may not admit it, but the only reason you'll vote for Hillary is to keep whoever the Republican nominee is out of office. She's under FBI investigation, she's loaded with baggage, she has conversations with dead people, she's up in the years and even has some medical problems to be concerned with, she thinks people are shooting at her when she gets off of planes, and this is somebody you really want to have access to the red button?

Of course not, nobody would. You (and all the other liberals) will vote for her to keep the Republican out.

Mr Trump is older than she is and has serious legal trouble of his own.

He does? And what serious legal trouble is that?
 
My dad was a cook at Ford 1975-1995 and was able to raise two kids.

Do Republicans want to return to those days?
The way you turned out? Fuck no.
Ten months my home paid off I'm 45. Live on a lake, living the dream. I just understand Ford paid well because a union made them. And non union companies paid better for fear of unionization and competition with union wages.

As unions have disappeared wages have declined. No coincidence
Wages have declined because the economy has declined. No coincidence. Businesses are flocking out of the US, explain how increasing their costs will motivate them to stay or come back.
Why did the economy decline? Too many jobs went overseas. No coincidence. Apparently American workers want too much.

That is part of it, but the bigger part were the unions that forced companies to pay extreme wages and benefits to people that did monkey jobs. That created inflation and we priced ourselves out of the world market.

The only thing that causes inflation is the Federal Reserve creating money out of thin air.
 
I do.

And so do Trump supporters.
Then they shouldn't have been voting Republican all these years or not show up to midterms.

Will Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell go along? If we are voting out Republican establishment candidates, let's do it in the Senate and house too.

If Democrats fight trump they will pay. Republicans won't pay for obstructing because their conservative constituents want them to.

Id be more open to trump if the dems took back the senate

THe Dems have and still support the Trade and Immigration policies that have been driving Middle Class stagnation, so that's not a reason to support dems.
Agree. Hopefully Bernie and trump will move the politicians to stop.

Remember politicians aren't leaders. They do whatever voters tell them what to do, until the lobbyists tell them to do otherwise.

For example we wanted healthcare reform but instead they let the insurance giants write the law mandating everyone has to buy their expensive product.

I'm just glad America is trying to fix these problems I've been complaining about for years. Remember us liberals have been complaining about illegals bringing down wages for years. Unions warned about NAFTA.

Glad America is moving left

REally? Other than you all the libs I talk to say illegals DON'T bring down wages.
For the record, I'm completely OK with manufacturing jobs coming home and moving to the States that offer the lowest taxes and minimum wage. But corporations have to pay federal taxes. We do have a military that defends them abroad so the French can drink Coca-Cola. Their trucks tear up our roads. They use our court system the most. Etc

Don't worry about our trucks. We pay very high taxes to drive those trucks. We get taxed on the diesel fuel we use, pay road taxes, and anything more than three axles, we pay an axle tax as well.
 
Please, spare me from your utopia. I like eating bananas. I don't need some Kommisar deciding what I need.

I literally couldn't care less what you, or anyone else, likes or doesn't like. It's aboit what's best for the nation; and I don't LIKE seeing Americans buying crap from foreign countries. Especially Socialist and/or Socialist supported counties.
 
I didn't send jobs anywhere. The government doesn't send jobs anywhere. Companies send jobs elsewhere.

The thing is to get into a career where there is a lot of demand. If we could stop foreigners from entering this country to work, our wages would increase and you could find a better paying job.

Not everyone can get into a career where their is a "lot of demand".

Do we ignore their interests? Do we feel a need to "punish" them with malignant neglect?

No, but we can't create jobs that people love. I wish I loved my job. I hate going to work every morning, but I have to keep a roof over my head so I do it.
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Doesn't mean we can't consider policy to make them better, or at least pay better.

I don't understand. What policy can do that?


Better Trade Policy to bring manufacturing jobs back and immigration policies to reduce the labor pool.


You have a situation where employers have to worry more about finding and keeping employees and the jobs and wages will improve.

That may work in some sectors, but others, not.

Many years ago when I was repairing medical equipment, my company wanted me to enroll in electronics school, so I did.

Working full time, going to school three nights a week, and supporting my girlfriends kids wore me down fast, so after a few months,I asked my teacher what kind of money I would be able to make if I got my FCC license which was one year of schooling? He told me 16K. Again, I asked what kind of money I would be able to make if I stuck it out two years for the Associates Degree? He told me 18K. Hell, I was making more than that on the job I was doing, so I quit the school.

Electronics is very hard. It's mostly math. But the problem was that everybody was interested in electronics, so the jobs didn't pay anything even if you could find one. One of the top ten lowest paying professions is cosmetology. Why? Because it's a dream job for many women. That too takes a lot of schooling and messing around with the state to get licensed.
 
Please, spare me from your utopia. I like eating bananas. I don't need some Kommisar deciding what I need.

I literally couldn't care less what you, or anyone else, likes or doesn't like. It's aboit what's best for the nation; and I don't LIKE seeing Americans buying crap from foreign countries. Especially Socialist and/or Socialist supported counties.

Your ideas are positively suicidal.
 
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The Trump Brown Shirts [with the Made in China label ] in Action against the enemy..the Free Press... Putin even called Trump and said "Dude"


Free Press Under Assault As CNN Video Sabotaged At Trump Live Event

There are reports that the live feed cables from MSNBC and CNN were tampered with today during a Donald Trump event. The CNN cable was cut between the live truck and the fiber box and was "shredded" according to a Washington Post reporter.…
 
The Trump Brown Shirts [with the Made in China label ] in Action against the enemy..the Free Press... Putin even called Trump and said "Dude"


Free Press Under Assault As CNN Video Sabotaged At Trump Live Event

There are reports that the live feed cables from MSNBC and CNN were tampered with today during a Donald Trump event. The CNN cable was cut between the live truck and the fiber box and was "shredded" according to a Washington Post reporter.…
MSNBC and CNN can be there only if Trump invites them to be there. His campaign events are private. They aren't open to the public. You have to get a ticket to attend. It's simply not a First Amendment issue.
 
The kind of people who vote for Trump are intelligent, well-informed, and totally fed up with political hacks and puppets. They look upon the current crop of lawyer/politicians with total disgust and are more than willing to give a successful real estate salesman a chance to rub the noses if leftist/progressives and so-called conservatives in the swill they've created.
 
What Kind of Person is Supporting Trump?

The same kind that went to Trump university and learned what it means to be "fleeced".
 

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