“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

[2aguy]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Honestly, no one will stop all mass killings, but we know how to stop most and that takes nothing more than banning the use of SSRI antidepressants.

and a medical expert also. What a laugh, The assault weapon is the weapons of choice by all mass murderers.

Do you understand that we can actually check you claims on the internet....and that that claim is completely false? The hand gun is the weapon of choice, because it is easy to conceal and transport....you doofus.....

 

[2aguy]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Statistically meaningless, tell that to the parent at a school massacre and if it was your child, you wouldn't say such garbage unless your a heartless piece of crap. Kill kill kill , the motto of all gun bubbas.
The assault weapon is the weapon of choice by all mass murderers. These guns are bought because of masculinity problems. Their wife told them they didn't have much to offer. So to gain on unit size their solution is assault weapons. Pitiful but it does explain why it is used so much in mass murders. You need owners of them, to make it the choice of all mass murderers. I bet you own one.

You keep revealing yourself as a teenager posting without your parent's permission.....now please, before you get grounded again, find your nanny and tell her to get you a juice box and some Teddy Grahams...

 

[jbander]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

You say the weapon of choice for mass killings is assault weapons, but then you change the goal post to say “over 10”?

Have you provided a link to prove this?

And, have you provided any evidence that, not using an “assault rifle” would have changed the total body count?

Nope, you have not, you just piss in the wind. I’m thinking you are simply a dork who actually thinks you’re winning.

Clue: you aren’t.

First you can't prove anything by taking the main part out of any scenario. Then you wouldn't have the result of what happens when it is still in the in the scenario . You won't understand that but it's a fact. You peoples total lack of logic is humorous. The weapons of choice by all mass murderers is a assault weapon,
first the bottom end of the spectron is made up of family arguments going bad, or arguments going bad. The top end is assault weapons because they can kill more faster. And when they are used the killer wants everyone to think they have big rocks, but to find out that it is a masculinity crisis , that makes gun Bubbas buy them in the first place , little weenies .

 

[2aguy]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

You say the weapon of choice for mass killings is assault weapons, but then you change the goal post to say “over 10”?

Have you provided a link to prove this?

And, have you provided any evidence that, not using an “assault rifle” would have changed the total body count?

Nope, you have not, you just piss in the wind. I’m thinking you are simply a dork who actually thinks you’re winning.

Clue: you aren’t.

First you can't prove anything by taking the main part out of any scenario. Then you wouldn't have the result of what happens when it is still in the in the scenario . You won't understand that but it's a fact. You peoples total lack of logic is humorous. The weapons of choice by all mass murderers is a assault weapon,
first the bottom end of the spectron is made up of family arguments going bad, or arguments going bad. The top end is assault weapons because they can kill more faster. And when they are used the killer wants everyone to think they have big rocks, but to find out that it is a masculinity crisis , that makes gun Bubbas buy them in the first place , little weenies .

You know, your mom and dad are going to find out you used the computer again....... you better log off and go and get your homework done..... you could use the knowledge...

 

[jbander]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Statistically meaningless, tell that to the parent at a school massacre and if it was your child, you wouldn't say such garbage unless your a heartless piece of crap. Kill kill kill , the motto of all gun bubbas.
The assault weapon is the weapon of choice by all mass murderers. These guns are bought because of masculinity problems. Their wife told them they didn't have much to offer. So to gain on unit size their solution is assault weapons. Pitiful but it does explain why it is used so much in mass murders. You need owners of them, to make it the choice of all mass murderers. I bet you own one.

^^^^ and the motto of rape bubbas? Disarm my victims.

Nuff said

That's good advice to you also, you have a way bigger chance of shooting your self in the foot then having a gun when you get attacked.

 

[jbander]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Honestly, no one will stop all mass killings, but we know how to stop most and that takes nothing more than banning the use of SSRI antidepressants.

and a medical expert also. What a laugh, The assault weapon is the weapons of choice by all mass murderers.

Do you understand that we can actually check you claims on the internet....and that that claim is completely false? The hand gun is the weapon of choice, because it is easy to conceal and transport....you doofus.....

The handgun is used in arguments and family matter, and is seen all over the lower end of the killing spectrom , I don't see that as being anything to do with mass murders. 3 and 4 were arbitrary numbers for perspective. OK you threatened to go to the internet and prove me wrong , Ok do that. My comment is mass killings above 10. And leans to the latest number because in the earlier times they didn't exist or were in such small numbers they couldn't make a impact. So give us your internet research. You won't because you will go into it just a bit to find out that I'm right and that's were you will stop.give her hell buddy.

 

[jbander]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Statistically meaningless, tell that to the parent at a school massacre and if it was your child, you wouldn't say such garbage unless your a heartless piece of crap. Kill kill kill , the motto of all gun bubbas.
The assault weapon is the weapon of choice by all mass murderers. These guns are bought because of masculinity problems. Their wife told them they didn't have much to offer. So to gain on unit size their solution is assault weapons. Pitiful but it does explain why it is used so much in mass murders. You need owners of them, to make it the choice of all mass murderers. I bet you own one.

You keep revealing yourself as a teenager posting without your parent's permission.....now please, before you get grounded again, find your nanny and tell her to get you a juice box and some Teddy Grahams...

Yours is the response of a gun bubbas that has nothing to offer. Why would I care what you think of me , I don't even like you, to much lying for me to like you.

 

[jbander]

Well this was a good day I humbled 2aguy to a point that he only attacks me and doesn't argue the point of this thread. Actually I look forward to that when it happens , I know that I have them in the corner and if the person I put there is someone that I don't like , I get much satisfaction out of it.

 

[Bell Huey]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Honestly, no one will stop all mass killings, but we know how to stop most and that takes nothing more than banning the use of SSRI antidepressants.

and a medical expert also. What a laugh, The assault weapon is the weapons of choice by all mass murderers.

Do you understand that we can actually check you claims on the internet....and that that claim is completely false? The hand gun is the weapon of choice, because it is easy to conceal and transport....you doofus.....

The handgun is used in arguments and family matter, and is seen all over the lower end of the killing spectrom , I don't see that as being anything to do with mass murders. 3 and 4 were arbitrary numbers for perspective. OK you threatened to go to the internet and prove me wrong , Ok do that. My comment is mass killings above 10. And leans to the latest number because in the earlier times they didn't exist or were in such small numbers they couldn't make a impact. So give us your internet research. You won't because you will go into it just a bit to find out that I'm right and that's were you will stop.give her hell buddy.

And yet the VA tech shooter killed 32 using two handguns.

 

[Pop23]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Statistically meaningless, tell that to the parent at a school massacre and if it was your child, you wouldn't say such garbage unless your a heartless piece of crap. Kill kill kill , the motto of all gun bubbas.
The assault weapon is the weapon of choice by all mass murderers. These guns are bought because of masculinity problems. Their wife told them they didn't have much to offer. So to gain on unit size their solution is assault weapons. Pitiful but it does explain why it is used so much in mass murders. You need owners of them, to make it the choice of all mass murderers. I bet you own one.

^^^^ and the motto of rape bubbas? Disarm my victims.

Nuff said

That's good advice to you also, you have a way bigger chance of shooting your self in the foot then having a gun when you get attacked.

^^^^ Of course a rape bubba would want the victim afraid of carrying a gun.

The rapists of the world appreciate your help!

 

[Pop23]

Well this was a good day I humbled 2aguy to a point that he only attacks me and doesn't argue the point of this thread. Actually I look forward to that when it happens , I know that I have them in the corner and if the person I put there is someone that I don't like , I get much satisfaction out of it.

^^^^ so says our local rape bubba.

 

[Pop23]

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Honestly, no one will stop all mass killings, but we know how to stop most and that takes nothing more than banning the use of SSRI antidepressants.

and a medical expert also. What a laugh, The assault weapon is the weapons of choice by all mass murderers.

Do you understand that we can actually check you claims on the internet....and that that claim is completely false? The hand gun is the weapon of choice, because it is easy to conceal and transport....you doofus.....

The handgun is used in arguments and family matter, and is seen all over the lower end of the killing spectrom , I don't see that as being anything to do with mass murders. 3 and 4 were arbitrary numbers for perspective. OK you threatened to go to the internet and prove me wrong , Ok do that. My comment is mass killings above 10. And leans to the latest number because in the earlier times they didn't exist or were in such small numbers they couldn't make a impact. So give us your internet research. You won't because you will go into it just a bit to find out that I'm right and that's were you will stop.give her hell buddy.

And yet the VA tech shooter killed 32 using two handguns.

Never let facts get in the way of dumbfuckery. Jbender never will

 

[2aguy]

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Honestly, no one will stop all mass killings, but we know how to stop most and that takes nothing more than banning the use of SSRI antidepressants.

and a medical expert also. What a laugh, The assault weapon is the weapons of choice by all mass murderers.

Do you understand that we can actually check you claims on the internet....and that that claim is completely false? The hand gun is the weapon of choice, because it is easy to conceal and transport....you doofus.....

The handgun is used in arguments and family matter, and is seen all over the lower end of the killing spectrom , I don't see that as being anything to do with mass murders. 3 and 4 were arbitrary numbers for perspective. OK you threatened to go to the internet and prove me wrong , Ok do that. My comment is mass killings above 10. And leans to the latest number because in the earlier times they didn't exist or were in such small numbers they couldn't make a impact. So give us your internet research. You won't because you will go into it just a bit to find out that I'm right and that's were you will stop.give her hell buddy.

And yet the VA tech shooter killed 32 using two handguns.

Luby's cafe, 26 with two handguns.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Statistically meaningless, tell that to the parent at a school massacre and if it was your child, you wouldn't say such garbage unless your a heartless piece of crap. Kill kill kill , the motto of all gun bubbas.
The assault weapon is the weapon of choice by all mass murderers. These guns are bought because of masculinity problems. Their wife told them they didn't have much to offer. So to gain on unit size their solution is assault weapons. Pitiful but it does explain why it is used so much in mass murders. You need owners of them, to make it the choice of all mass murderers. I bet you own one.

I have never killed anyone despite the fact I have been shooting since I was 8 years old.

Stop pretending you care about people getting killed you don't because if you did you would not be fixated on 1% of murders.

So tell me why getting killed by a rifle along with a few other people is worse than one person getting killed in any other way ?

Why is it worse to be killed with any gun anywhere than it is to be stabbed to death, bludgeoned to death or to be killed any one of a thousand other ways?

And no I don't own an AR but I do own a Ruger Mini 14 chambered for 5.56. I also own rifles chambered for 6.8 and 7.62 NATO rounds. I have a few shotguns and 6 handguns of various calibers.

And guess what I have never killed anyone nor do I have any desire to.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Honestly, no one will stop all mass killings, but we know how to stop most and that takes nothing more than banning the use of SSRI antidepressants.

and a medical expert also. What a laugh, The assault weapon is the weapons of choice by all mass murderers.

You do know I can prove that statement wrong don't you?

 

[Pop23]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Mass murder account for about 1% of all murders

Rifles of any kind are used in about 2% of all murders

99% of all murders do not occur in mass shootings

Even if you could stop mass shootings by banning a rifle ( you can't but let's pretend) there would be no significant drop in the murder rate.

You don't give a shit about gun deaths or the murder rate because you are fixated on something that is statistically meaningless.

Honestly, no one will stop all mass killings, but we know how to stop most and that takes nothing more than banning the use of SSRI antidepressants.

and a medical expert also. What a laugh, The assault weapon is the weapons of choice by all mass murderers.

No need to be a medical expert. Anyone can research what medications each killer was on. Not rocket science.

I linked to “medical experts” that make the claim.

You know what a link is, right?

Something a pussy like you never provide.

 

[hadit]

dude; you have nothing but a fallacy of false Cause, by confusing natural rights with express, civil rights.

nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, Constitutional or otherwise.

What?

Can ANYONE explain what this tool is talking about?

Where am I trying to establish a false causal connection?

Don't just drop that bomb and run away. Explain it.

there are no individual rights in our Second Amendment. every dictionary proves my point.

We've dealt with this before. Your position leaves you as an individual unprotected by the 1st Amendment.

 

[hadit]

Let's make this simple, for these weak minded gun bubbas, the weapons of choice for mass murderers is the Assault weapon, no comparison to any other weapon. Of all the mass murders were 10 or more people are killed by a mass murderer, 275 of the 368 were killed by assault weapons.
I'm tired of their stupidity, talking about slipping on ice or being pushed off of a mountain as a comparable way as assault weapons to cause mass death.
You always have to just laugh when their lame logic is used , it's not the gun it's the guy that pulls the trigger. Tell me how stupid logic like that is balanced against, no guns then no death by guns. Then as stupid as it is , they then can't admit that without guns there is no death by guns and still move to some insane rational of more guns the less death by guns. I don't think they even know what logic is,

Can you even define an assault weapon?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

AR15s are not assault weapons, they are sporting rifles...
Bathtubs kill more Americans than people using ar15’s...
Progressives don’t get to pick which firearms are legal and which ones are not... Because they are incredibly ignorant on the subject...

One must consider Rustic's conclusion on ignorance, since his entire body of work on this message board is built on his personal biases and alternate facts.

Consideration, however, does not become acceptance. Only others whose sense of reality is formed by their biases accept his judgments; others who observe reality with an open mind, empathy and able to see issues sagaciously before making a judgment.

In this matter only the gun is factored into the thinking of those who believe the 2nd A. is an absolute right, and under no conditions can it be infringed. This is an example of an alternate fact belied by reality, and supported by the ignorance of others.

Lets check your sense of reality and see where your biases lay. So if you would please answer the following:

By way of example, you get a call from your daughter that she just fought off a rapist who told her that he was going to kill her after (details not appropriate for this forum) and dump her body somewhere where no one would ever find her. She continued the description by telling you how she fought him off and that the reason she was able to escape was by the use of a weapon.

Which, of the many weapons that she might tell you she used to save her life, would you find unacceptable to have used?

Would you find it unacceptable knowing the weapon she choose to fight off the attack was registered?

Would you find it unacceptable knowing she had no license for it?

Would you find it unacceptable that she completed no government mandated training with it?

Would you find it unacceptable that the weapon she used had a rail on it?

Would you find it unacceptable that it was Military grade?

I think the truth is that you probably wouldn't care. And maybe, most important is that nobody really would care, except perhaps the murderous rapist.

Look forward to your response.

I was trained in the management of assaultive behavior. The basic rule was to survive. Thus, in the above scenario, all of the above are acceptable, when one's life is at risk.

And yet, the use of a gun to kill masses of people for "sport", or when the outcome of killing massive #'s of people - suicide by one's own hand, or cop - has no relationship to your scenario.

A violent attack, by a more powerful person requires techniques which may cause death or permanent injury to the attacker. A pen or pencil used to enter the brain via an eye, can blind, incapacitate or kill an attacker; a blunt instrument used with enough force to the throat or the temple can kill or incapacitate an attacker and one's teeth can be used to maim or cause enough pain to thwart the attacker so as to allow the victim to run, or to become the attacker, using a thumb to the eye is always effective.

And all require you to allow the attacker to get within arms length. Not the best choice, but better than nothing.


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hammers seem to be twice as effective as Arms.

 

[Pop23]

One must consider Rustic's conclusion on ignorance, since his entire body of work on this message board is built on his personal biases and alternate facts.

Consideration, however, does not become acceptance. Only others whose sense of reality is formed by their biases accept his judgments; others who observe reality with an open mind, empathy and able to see issues sagaciously before making a judgment.

In this matter only the gun is factored into the thinking of those who believe the 2nd A. is an absolute right, and under no conditions can it be infringed. This is an example of an alternate fact belied by reality, and supported by the ignorance of others.

Lets check your sense of reality and see where your biases lay. So if you would please answer the following:

By way of example, you get a call from your daughter that she just fought off a rapist who told her that he was going to kill her after (details not appropriate for this forum) and dump her body somewhere where no one would ever find her. She continued the description by telling you how she fought him off and that the reason she was able to escape was by the use of a weapon.

Which, of the many weapons that she might tell you she used to save her life, would you find unacceptable to have used?

Would you find it unacceptable knowing the weapon she choose to fight off the attack was registered?

Would you find it unacceptable knowing she had no license for it?

Would you find it unacceptable that she completed no government mandated training with it?

Would you find it unacceptable that the weapon she used had a rail on it?

Would you find it unacceptable that it was Military grade?

I think the truth is that you probably wouldn't care. And maybe, most important is that nobody really would care, except perhaps the murderous rapist.

Look forward to your response.

I was trained in the management of assaultive behavior. The basic rule was to survive. Thus, in the above scenario, all of the above are acceptable, when one's life is at risk.

And yet, the use of a gun to kill masses of people for "sport", or when the outcome of killing massive #'s of people - suicide by one's own hand, or cop - has no relationship to your scenario.

A violent attack, by a more powerful person requires techniques which may cause death or permanent injury to the attacker. A pen or pencil used to enter the brain via an eye, can blind, incapacitate or kill an attacker; a blunt instrument used with enough force to the throat or the temple can kill or incapacitate an attacker and one's teeth can be used to maim or cause enough pain to thwart the attacker so as to allow the victim to run, or to become the attacker, using a thumb to the eye is always effective.

And all require you to allow the attacker to get within arms length. Not the best choice, but better than nothing.


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hammers seem to be twice as effective as Arms.

Rapist thank you for the support