What pronouns should teachers in government schools use?

Should government schools require teachers to call students the pronoun of their choice?

  • Yes, and any teacher who doesn't should be fired

  • No but if the student asks the teacher politely, the teacher is an ass if they don't

  • No, and the teacher should be fired for lying by calling the student anything but their birth gender


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Teachers should address others by their names. If the need for a pronoun occurs, teachers should adhere to the rules of the english language.
But what if little Johnny wants to be called Jill, without so much as a legal name change?

What is Susan wants to be called Sue? Should they have to legally change their name?

Sue is a known nickname for Susan; I'm not aware of Jill ever being a known nickname for John. And when I was in school, the teacher had the option of disregarding preferred nicknames if they were uncomfortable with them and calling the student by their formal name.
Imagine a boy named Sue.

LOL
Or Kim..
 
Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

I think the anti-social twats should just keep their kids at home if they can't deal with the world in 2021 and beyond.
by the same standard, parents of children who believe they are something other than what they are, should stay home, and let their parent coddle their delusions.

It's not really a job for their teachers.
That would work, except for the fact that FAR too many parents are operating under the delusion that it’s the STATES JOB to raise their rugrats, I wonder where they got that idea from?
 
I would not fire teachers or compel speech, but I say the teacher is an ass if they aren't polite to their student and call them at a personal level what they want to be called. That isn't a political position, it's being a decent person.


It's not possible to list EVERY possibility in these polls. If none are perfect, please pick the closest answer to your view and explain in your post.




Ok, I'm calling you an idiot.

A reasonable hypothesis, but could you be a little clearer on the justification?
 
I would not fire teachers or compel speech, but I say the teacher is an ass if they aren't polite to their student and call them at a personal level what they want to be called. That isn't a political position, it's being a decent person.


It's not possible to list EVERY possibility in these polls. If none are perfect, please pick the closest answer to your view and explain in your post.




Ok, I'm calling you an idiot.

If we're lucky, he'll OD today.
 
Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

I think the anti-social twats should just keep their kids at home if they can't deal with the world in 2021 and beyond.
by the same standard, parents of children who believe they are something other than what they are, should stay home, and let their parent coddle their delusions.

It's not really a job for their teachers.

I think most teachers are fine, don't really have a hang up with this. It's obviously the wingnut parents who are mostly getting bent out of shape.

Pretty sure a transgendered child, their parents and their mental health professionals can take care of what pronouns they should be using.
 
Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

Yes, my full answer would be that there should be no such thing as government schools. And private schools should make these decisions themselves.

Still, you can't discuss every issue on every subject.

My point is trying to separate the political from the personal. My views politically are very different from my views of just being polite to someone who is polite to me. To me otherwise is just reinforcing the political intolerance in this country that is destroying us
 
Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

Yes, my full answer would be that there should be no such thing as government schools. And private schools should make these decisions themselves.

Still, you can't discuss every issue on every subject.

My point is trying to separate the political from the personal. My views politically are very different from my views of just being polite to someone who is polite to me. To me otherwise is just reinforcing the political intolerance in this country that is destroying us

They have these things called private schools, parents can enroll their kids into them anytime they feel like their personal political agenda isn't being taken seriously because some kid on the playground born a boy wants to be called she/her.
 
Teachers should address others by their names. If the need for a pronoun occurs, teachers should adhere to the rules of the english language.
But what if little Johnny wants to be called Jill, without so much as a legal name change?

What is Susan wants to be called Sue? Should they have to legally change their name?

Sue is a known nickname for Susan; I'm not aware of Jill ever being a known nickname for John. And when I was in school, the teacher had the option of disregarding preferred nicknames if they were uncomfortable with them and calling the student by their formal name.
Imagine a boy named Sue.

LOL
Or Kim..

But Sue has a song.
 
Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

Yes, my full answer would be that there should be no such thing as government schools. And private schools should make these decisions themselves.

Still, you can't discuss every issue on every subject.

My point is trying to separate the political from the personal. My views politically are very different from my views of just being polite to someone who is polite to me. To me otherwise is just reinforcing the political intolerance in this country that is destroying us

I have no tolerance for you on any level in this thread.
Enjoy your drug addled circular logic.
 
Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

Yes, my full answer would be that there should be no such thing as government schools. And private schools should make these decisions themselves.

Still, you can't discuss every issue on every subject.

My point is trying to separate the political from the personal. My views politically are very different from my views of just being polite to someone who is polite to me. To me otherwise is just reinforcing the political intolerance in this country that is destroying us
Call me the "Grand Fallopian".
 
It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose, because we all need to think like sociopaths
 
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I would not fire teachers or compel speech, but I say the teacher is an ass if they aren't polite to their student and call them at a personal level what they want to be called. That isn't a political position, it's being a decent person.


It's not possible to list EVERY possibility in these polls. If none are perfect, please pick the closest answer to your view and explain in your post.




"Decent" people would never pretend a man is a woman nor would they play along with someone who is.
 
I would not fire teachers or compel speech, but I say the teacher is an ass if they aren't polite to their student and call them at a personal level what they want to be called. That isn't a political position, it's being a decent person.


It's not possible to list EVERY possibility in these polls. If none are perfect, please pick the closest answer to your view and explain in your post.





It's a political position to redefine "polite" as "playing into whatever delusion someone wants to impose on others".

It is not impolite to be biologically and grammatically correct; it is impolite to demand that others be incorrect to suit you.

You'll show that kid, huh! Now that's polite!

Aren't you there to teach, not to make political points to each other?

What is wrong with calling he a she? Maybe the kids will say wow, these people aren't asses like my parents, I want to be more like them. You're not going to give them that message by being rude to them

First of all, school - like any other occasion in which humans interact with each other - is about more than just academics. It would be even if left-wingers didn't keep trying to make it about their agenda. It is also about learning social behavior and boundaries. I recall school as containing a lot of hard and not-very-pleasant lessons in that regard. So yeah, the kid can and should learn that his personal wishes don't create a corresponding obligation in others, right up there with the lessons about personal responsibility and meeting expectations.

Second of all, what is wrong with "calling he a she" is that he is NOT a she. It's not my job in life - and certainly would not be my job if I were a teacher - to be nicer than anyone's parents, nor am I stupid enough to think that caving in to ridiculous demands under the mistaken impression that it's "nice" to do so is magically going to convince people to agree with my views, particularly when I'm hiding those very views by being "nice" and behaving in opposition to them.

Third, I continue to be offended by your attempts to force arbitrary parameters of "Doing what I think should be done is what is nice, and doing what I don't think should be done is rude" onto the conversation. You are not advocating "nice" or "polite"; you're advocating being a craven milksop who goes along with whatever you're told to do in hopes of being liked. It is no more rude to tell little Johnny, "You are a boy, and I will refer to you as such" than it is to tell him, "Your homework was due today, and I will not accept it late." Life's tough, wear a helmet.
 
If some little fairy boy thinks he's a girl, then just call him FAGGOT.

What the hell is all the confusion about... that's what he is... a flaming HOMO with GENDER DYSFUNCTION.

Make him a deal... you'll call him NANCY so long as he SEEKS PSYCHIATRIC HELP.
 
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Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

Yes, my full answer would be that there should be no such thing as government schools. And private schools should make these decisions themselves.

Still, you can't discuss every issue on every subject.

My point is trying to separate the political from the personal. My views politically are very different from my views of just being polite to someone who is polite to me. To me otherwise is just reinforcing the political intolerance in this country that is destroying us

Your point is trying to impose on the rest of us your personal view of "political", "personal", and "polite". Apparently, you think you get to rewrite the entire "P" section of the dictionary to suit yourself.

You want to try to stop the political intolerance destroying us by unconditional surrender, go for it. But you're on your own, and you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for anyone else to enthusiastically cheer your plan. I'm not interested in peace through accepting subjugation.
 
Teachers should address others by their names. If the need for a pronoun occurs, teachers should adhere to the rules of the english language.

I am with you on when leftists compel speech. Calling them by their name and avoiding pronouns is a reasonable option.

"teachers should adhere to the rules of the english language."

No sure what you mean by this
I mean for one thing, don't refer to one person as "they".
 
Teachers should address others by their names. If the need for a pronoun occurs, teachers should adhere to the rules of the english language.
But what if little Johnny wants to be called Jill, without so much as a legal name change?
Johnny's name is Johnny. That's what the teacher should call him.
 
Teachers should address others by their names. If the need for a pronoun occurs, teachers should adhere to the rules of the english language.

I am with you on when leftists compel speech. Calling them by their name and avoiding pronouns is a reasonable option.

"teachers should adhere to the rules of the english language."

No sure what you mean by this
I mean for one thing, don't refer to one person as "they".

Singular 'they' has been used for centuries, it's not new. Not that it matters anyway.
 
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Conservatives should homeschool their children.

Not a bad idea.

No sense having them in institutions where people are confused about what they are.

Yes, my full answer would be that there should be no such thing as government schools. And private schools should make these decisions themselves.

Still, you can't discuss every issue on every subject.

My point is trying to separate the political from the personal. My views politically are very different from my views of just being polite to someone who is polite to me. To me otherwise is just reinforcing the political intolerance in this country that is destroying us

They have these things called private schools, parents can enroll their kids into them anytime they feel like their personal political agenda isn't being taken seriously because some kid on the playground born a boy wants to be called she/her.

Right, private schools are an entirely different animal. It's up to them.

What is your point?
 
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