What the fuck is wrong with the Left?

[Quantum Windbag]

Let's be honest here, the only ones who side with alleged rapists are the left. She didn't name anyone, yet you guys keep saying she's slandering him. You undermine your own case. I guess you're against women even speaking out against rape now?

Bingo.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I came here intending to rant about an idiot that thinks it is perfectly justifiable to treat one person differently than another just because she disagrees with them on political philosophy, and I stumbled across something that is so stupid it defies common decency.

A college student now faces expulsion because school administrators say that she is 'intimidating' her alleged rapist by publicly discussing the sexual assault.
The victim, a female sophomore at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, went through the school-sanctioned order of filing a complaint against her fellow student and ex-boyfriend raped her.
Rather than remain anonymous about her sexual assault, she has publicly released her name- Landen Gambill- spoken in many news interviews, and even talked about her own experiences in front of a variety of media representatives at a public rally pushing for the school to increase their support for victims.

I dare any asshole to ever tell me again about the right wing war on woman.

Fuck every fucking one of you.

I seem to recall another case where Students in North Carolina were accused of rape.

It was Duke University. You recall that, don't you?

It seems like these universities can't win for losing. They take strong action when something is alledged, but not proven, they get beaten up, they stand up for the accused (who last time I checked was still innocent until proven guilty), and they get beaten up.

I think this University is in the wrong. That they are intentionally downplaying rape allegations so that they don't look as bad as they do.

BUt don't try to make this a "left/right" thing when this is just a business acting like a business.

You really are stupid.

The way I recall it, the Left called for the heads of the alleged rapists because they were both rich and white, while they automatically sided with the accuser because she was poor and black.

Did you notice the woman here happens to be white?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Keep in mind that Windbag doesn't believe in any government, so a woman raped in his world would have NO legal, government enforced remedy.

Keep in mind that you have no idea what type of society I would like to see.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I came here intending to rant about an idiot that thinks it is perfectly justifiable to treat one person differently than another just because she disagrees with them on political philosophy, and I stumbled across something that is so stupid it defies common decency.

A college student now faces expulsion because school administrators say that she is 'intimidating' her alleged rapist by publicly discussing the sexual assault.
The victim, a female sophomore at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, went through the school-sanctioned order of filing a complaint against her fellow student and ex-boyfriend raped her.
Rather than remain anonymous about her sexual assault, she has publicly released her name- Landen Gambill- spoken in many news interviews, and even talked about her own experiences in front of a variety of media representatives at a public rally pushing for the school to increase their support for victims.

Landen Gambill may be expelled from school because she 'INTIMIDATED her rapist' by speaking out about the assault | Mail Online

I dare any asshole to ever tell me again about the right wing war on woman.

Fuck every fucking one of you.

Where in your post is there evidence the "school administrators" are "from the left"?

This thread does bring up an important issue, that being "the left" seems to be anyone who disagrees with the author and others who consider themselves conservatives. It is used without definition and solely as a pejorative.

IMO "the Left" in America left the Democratic Party in the mid 1960's and formed the Peace and Freedom Party and some joined the Socialist-Workers Party. Those on the right have remained Republicans and moved the once GOP so far to the right former standard bearers - Lincoln, TR, Ike and even Nixon wouldn't carry their banner.

Maybe the author of the OP would care to expalin what exactly he means when he uses the word "left"?

Feel free to provide some type of evidence that they are not. Until you do, I am going to assume they are from the same breed of professional idiots that normally run schools.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I came here intending to rant about an idiot that thinks it is perfectly justifiable to treat one person differently than another just because she disagrees with them on political philosophy, and I stumbled across something that is so stupid it defies common decency.



Landen Gambill may be expelled from school because she 'INTIMIDATED her rapist' by speaking out about the assault | Mail Online

I dare any asshole to ever tell me again about the right wing war on woman.

Fuck every fucking one of you.

You should control your language because truth does not need to be vulgar. Liberals hate women and the unborn but they love criminals. It proves they hate the Constitution.

Can you prove that Liberals hate women? Can you prove that Liberals love criminals? How did your attitude take shape? What instances can you cite that gives you credibility?

Was it Liberlas who repressed the women's sufferage movement early in the 20th century? Was it Liberals who resisted equal rights for women? Was it Liberals who formed the dissent against equal pay legislation?

Was Phyllis Schlafly a Liberal?

I can prove that the Left does not tolareate anyone, whatever their sex or race, that is not the Left.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Again- Duke university automatically assumed the accused was guilty. The right screamed "No, this is Left WIng PC Gone Too Far!"

In this case, the University is actually working on the persumption of innocence, since neither the student honor council or the police thought this woman's claims of rape by her ex-boyfriend were credible.

Now, they might well be inept at their jobs. Or the University might be engaging in an attempt to downplay rape statistics on their campuses. But I don't know that. I'm not there, I didn't see what happened.

Either this woman was raped, or she is vindictively trying to destroy a young man's reputation. Either way, it's a tragedy.

It's not a political thing.

You live in an alternate universe, don't you?

What happened is that the accusers story started to fall apart so fast that no sane person would have pursued it, yet the prosecutor decided to go for political points. The proof of that is that something very rare happened, the prosecutor was brought up on sanctions, and actually resigned.

Feel free to keep rewriting history though, it is the only way you can make any type of point.

By the way, what is vindictive about a woman not mentioning the name of her rapist?

 

[JoeB131]

You really are stupid.

The way I recall it, the Left called for the heads of the alleged rapists because they were both rich and white, while they automatically sided with the accuser because she was poor and black.

Did you notice the woman here happens to be white?

NO, but I don't focus on those things like you do.

The university cracked down on these Duke athletes because even if there wasn't a rape, they broke a whole lot of rules of the university by hiring Strippers/prostitutes.

There were no heroes at Duke. Nifong didn't do his job, and he paid the consequences.

In this case, there was an accusation, which people found questionable. SO instead of flying off at the handle AFTER police and a student hearing had doubts, they are telling her to cool her shit before she gets herself and the universtiy into a lot of trouble.

 

[JoeB131]

You live in an alternate universe, don't you?

What happened is that the accusers story started to fall apart so fast that no sane person would have pursued it, yet the prosecutor decided to go for political points. The proof of that is that something very rare happened, the prosecutor was brought up on sanctions, and actually resigned.

Feel free to keep rewriting history though, it is the only way you can make any type of point.

By the way, what is vindictive about a woman not mentioning the name of her rapist?

Those athletes broke a lot of University rules MERELY by hiring strippers and prostitutes and bringing them on campus, guy.

 

[midcan5]

I have no idea what the 'left' that this tread refers to even is? Can someone explain?

- I also think this belongs in the flame zone as it does not pose a genuine question but assumes a common bogeyman is in the wrong - Scapegoats are so convenient.

As far as the republican war on women, there is lots of factual proof noted in article below. "Conservatives like to pretend there is no war on women, so PoliticusUSA developed a running list of legislation to prove that there is indeed a war on women. The proof is in the policy, and policy trumps words." Proof of the GOP War on Women

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You really are stupid.

The way I recall it, the Left called for the heads of the alleged rapists because they were both rich and white, while they automatically sided with the accuser because she was poor and black.

Did you notice the woman here happens to be white?

NO, but I don't focus on those things like you do.

The university cracked down on these Duke athletes because even if there wasn't a rape, they broke a whole lot of rules of the university by hiring Strippers/prostitutes.

There were no heroes at Duke. Nifong didn't do his job, and he paid the consequences.

In this case, there was an accusation, which people found questionable. SO instead of flying off at the handle AFTER police and a student hearing had doubts, they are telling her to cool her shit before she gets herself and the universtiy into a lot of trouble.

You aren't one of the people that keep pointing out that Obama is black, and calling everyone that opposes him a racist? When did that start?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You live in an alternate universe, don't you?

What happened is that the accusers story started to fall apart so fast that no sane person would have pursued it, yet the prosecutor decided to go for political points. The proof of that is that something very rare happened, the prosecutor was brought up on sanctions, and actually resigned.

Feel free to keep rewriting history though, it is the only way you can make any type of point.

By the way, what is vindictive about a woman not mentioning the name of her rapist?

Those athletes broke a lot of University rules MERELY by hiring strippers and prostitutes and bringing them on campus, guy.

Strange, I didn't see anything about the university in my post, I pointed out how the prosecutor continued to pursue charges even after it was obvious the wman was lying. Yet you are still defending the university, I wonder why.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I have no idea what the 'left' that this tread refers to even is? Can someone explain?

- I also think this belongs in the flame zone as it does not pose a genuine question but assumes a common bogeyman is in the wrong - Scapegoats are so convenient.

As far as the republican war on women, there is lots of factual proof noted in article below. "Conservatives like to pretend there is no war on women, so PoliticusUSA developed a running list of legislation to prove that there is indeed a war on women. The proof is in the policy, and policy trumps words." Proof of the GOP War on Women

Look in a mirror.

 

[JoeB131]

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You aren't one of the people that keep pointing out that Obama is black, and calling everyone that opposes him a racist? When did that start?

Well, no, I'm the guy who points out you all whine about Obama on a daily basis, even when he does stuff Bush or Romney did, that you had no problem with...

but they were white.

 

[JoeB131]

You live in an alternate universe, don't you?

What happened is that the accusers story started to fall apart so fast that no sane person would have pursued it, yet the prosecutor decided to go for political points. The proof of that is that something very rare happened, the prosecutor was brought up on sanctions, and actually resigned.

Feel free to keep rewriting history though, it is the only way you can make any type of point.

By the way, what is vindictive about a woman not mentioning the name of her rapist?

Those athletes broke a lot of University rules MERELY by hiring strippers and prostitutes and bringing them on campus, guy.

Strange, I didn't see anything about the university in my post, I pointed out how the prosecutor continued to pursue charges even after it was obvious the wman was lying. Yet you are still defending the university, I wonder why.

I'm not.

The university is a business, and I never defend business.

But I understand why it is acting LIKE a business.

 

[Pogo]

Looks like the troll has abandoned his post. Any others willing to proffer a definition of "The Left" as used by Windbag?

As far as the far right is concerned, all you have to be is wrong in their estimation to be on the Left. No reasoning required. No real political agenda necessary. Just be wrong according to them and you're a Liberal by default.

How liberating that must be! To dismiss any and all societal wrongs by politics. You no longer have to think too deeply to find a scapegoat. All you have to do is claim the moral high ground, but not defend it.

For example. We might all agree that Bashir Al Asaid is a bad man. He rules Syria with an iron fist, tramples dissent and uses any and all means to retain his power. Every cognizant free human recognizes this. Given his record of evil, how long before some far right winger decides that Asaid is actually a Liberal?

Sadly it's too soon to rep you up again but this is spot-on.

The concept of "eliminationism" developed in the wacko right fringe over the last couple of decades means the opponent must be not reasoned with, not negotiated with and not debated with but literally eliminated. Drawing the good/evil us/them dichotomy is the opener; once you've done that, "hey look, it's an ogre! Kill him!".

That's also the only way they can make their way to blanket statements like "liberals love criminals" or whatever it was. Dichotomy is label-addicting. It requires severe narrowing of the mind to the point where the other side of the question fades into invisibility, and of course at that point all that's left must be destroyed, pun intended.

Or as the OP puts it: "fuck every fucking one of you".

 

[Pogo]

I came here intending to rant about an idiot that thinks it is perfectly justifiable to treat one person differently than another just because she disagrees with them on political philosophy, and I stumbled across something that is so stupid it defies common decency.

Landen Gambill may be expelled from school because she 'INTIMIDATED her rapist' by speaking out about the assault | Mail Online

I dare any asshole to ever tell me again about the right wing war on woman.

Fuck every fucking one of you.

Where in your post is there evidence the "school administrators" are "from the left"?

This thread does bring up an important issue, that being "the left" seems to be anyone who disagrees with the author and others who consider themselves conservatives. It is used without definition and solely as a pejorative.

IMO "the Left" in America left the Democratic Party in the mid 1960's and formed the Peace and Freedom Party and some joined the Socialist-Workers Party. Those on the right have remained Republicans and moved the once GOP so far to the right former standard bearers - Lincoln, TR, Ike and even Nixon wouldn't carry their banner.

Maybe the author of the OP would care to expalin what exactly he means when he uses the word "left"?

Feel free to provide some type of evidence that they are not. Until you do, I am going to assume they are from the same breed of professional idiots that normally run schools.

Yeah! Because it's your job to prove the negative!

 

[Pogo]

This is a perfect example of why judging situations based purely on emotion is almost guaranteed to end poorly.

First of all, you're attempting to put the actions of a student council at the school on "the Left" as a whole - which is clearly nonsense. This has nothing to do with politics.

Secondly, we don't have anything close to the whole story here. I don't agree with the Honor Court's actions, but I'll reserve judgement until I have more information than just a tabloid story.

I am not attempting anything, I am flat out calling people on the Left that think PC speech codes can force them to prohibit anyone form saying anything they want is full of shit. I could be wrong, and will be glad to admit it if you find evidence, but my guess is you won't find a single person on the right supporting speech codes.

Who are these people that you're calling out? I don't know of anyone on this message board has come out in favor of "speech codes".



Randomly deciding to capitalize words doesn't make your own "differentiation" apparent to a reader.


Of course you're that stupid. Everyone is.

It's a matter of brain chemistry.


You're missing a few "facts" there.

The fact that she brought these allegations up as an "intra-student conflict" instead of criminal charges means that it's to be judged by a student council (the "Honor Court"), instead of our legal system. That was her choice.

The allegations against her are also being brought up by the "Honor Court".

Making up a definition for "the Left" (as far as I can understand, it's anyone you don't agree with), then putting blame on your "creation" is what I mean by letting emotion take control.

Your excessive use of ad hom attacks also shows a lack of emotional control.

Given the facts, it really doesn't matter if she was actually raped unless you are saying the school should be able to tell students that it is illegal to talk about crimes that happen on campus even if they are true.

Again, this is the result of a student council's decision, not "the school" or "the Left".

See, this proves that I am the one that actually thought this shit through, and you are simply attempting to defend the Left, which makes you part of the fucking problem.

I am "defending" "the Left" - in the sense that I consider myself to be a member of "the Left", and I disagree with everything you've accused me of supporting.

Which leads me to think that you didn't "think" anything through.

Exactly. Strawmen-R-us. And each one comes with a nice statement-blankie, plus a color-coded funny hat so you know who the monsters are.

 

[Bigfoot]

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You aren't one of the people that keep pointing out that Obama is black, and calling everyone that opposes him a racist? When did that start?

Well, no, I'm the guy who points out you all whine about Obama on a daily basis, even when he does stuff Bush or Romney did, that you had no problem with...

but they were white.

What would these yahoos have without their favorite play of the race card? A whole lot of nothing.

 

[gwennie]

I came here intending to rant about an idiot that thinks it is perfectly justifiable to treat one person differently than another just because she disagrees with them on political philosophy, and I stumbled across something that is so stupid it defies common decency.

A college student now faces expulsion because school administrators say that she is 'intimidating' her alleged rapist by publicly discussing the sexual assault.
The victim, a female sophomore at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, went through the school-sanctioned order of filing a complaint against her fellow student and ex-boyfriend raped her.
Rather than remain anonymous about her sexual assault, she has publicly released her name- Landen Gambill- spoken in many news interviews, and even talked about her own experiences in front of a variety of media representatives at a public rally pushing for the school to increase their support for victims.

Landen Gambill may be expelled from school because she 'INTIMIDATED her rapist' by speaking out about the assault | Mail Online

I dare any asshole to ever tell me again about the right wing war on woman.

Fuck every fucking one of you.

You should control your language because truth does not need to be vulgar. Liberals hate women and the unborn but they love criminals. It proves they hate the Constitution.

Are you the language police??? Don't start pulling the liberal bullshit by trying to tell people how they are "supposed to" talk.

 

[Cowman]

I came here intending to rant about an idiot that thinks it is perfectly justifiable to treat one person differently than another just because she disagrees with them on political philosophy, and I stumbled across something that is so stupid it defies common decency.

A college student now faces expulsion because school administrators say that she is 'intimidating' her alleged rapist by publicly discussing the sexual assault.
The victim, a female sophomore at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, went through the school-sanctioned order of filing a complaint against her fellow student and ex-boyfriend raped her.
Rather than remain anonymous about her sexual assault, she has publicly released her name- Landen Gambill- spoken in many news interviews, and even talked about her own experiences in front of a variety of media representatives at a public rally pushing for the school to increase their support for victims.

Landen Gambill may be expelled from school because she 'INTIMIDATED her rapist' by speaking out about the assault | Mail Online

I dare any asshole to ever tell me again about the right wing war on woman.

Fuck every fucking one of you.

How in the hell is this left/right?