bendog
Diamond Member
I agree Hillary couldn't get the vote out. Esp after Comey. But I'm not convinced the dems will easily recapture them, esp Wisc.Biden's problem is his record. And Obama prefers Booker, whose campaign has already lost to Harris. I'm a little leery of Harris appealing to working class whites in Wisc Mich and Pa, and the dems have to have all 3 unless they pull off a miracle in GA or NC, and maybe even that wouldn't be enough, and Harris is not winnign Oh, Iowa or MissouriI don't think it'll be Biden
Well, then it will be Sanders. Sanders beats Trump in the polling as well, just not by the margins that Biden does.
Bottom line, Trump is not going to be re-elected. If you really want to pick the next President of the United States, you need to be voting in the Democratic Primary's.
If Beto can win the same black vote that Sanders did ......
I like Harris and she would beat Trump, but she is not going to be the nominee. Its either Biden or Sanders with O'Rourke as a long shot.
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are BLUE WALL states. Trump won them because Democrats did not spend enough campaign money and time defending them. In Wisconsin Trump got less votes than Mitt Romney did in 2012 when he lost the state by 7 percentage points. That shows Trump did not win the state in 2016 and that Democrats lost it. Too many Democratic voters stayed home and no significant numbers of them ever voted for Trump.
I'm not a big Harris fan. But the black vote controls the southern primaries, and she has CA in her pocket. Somebody will have to knock her out early.
And with Bernie, what's he going to say when Warren wants to break up Apple and Amazon? I just don't see that as a strategy that's gonna play in a general election.
Of course if the dems can somehow flip Oh or even NC and Ariz ...
Based on current polling their actually closer to flipping Texas then those states. The current polling shows that its a race between Biden and Sanders. Harris is a distant third.
I know but it's early. Basically, I think the dems problem is this. Biden's been wrong on Judges, Iraq-Syria, Taxes. I don't think Bernie is yet trusted by old southern blacks who came up in the 60s and 70s.
And to win the middle voters - Pa, Mich, and Wisc - they've got to be pro Trump econ and not Trump. An old white dude doing this?