Zone1 What to Do with Gaza?

[Mr. Friscus]

Might makes right, got it.

Welcome to world history.

So, you can criticize their methods but you really can't criticize the goal of Hamas to throw the Israelis out of Palestine.

They can try, but they clearly can’t, and they aren’t even trying to defeat the state of Israel. theyre trying to kill Israeli civilians. In contrast, Israel is trying to defeat the military of Hamas, and Gaza civilians are dying in war because they refuse to leave areas in which they are warned will be attacked. You can only do so much for people, and Hamas/Palestinians/Iran does nothing for these people. They are starving them and hiding behind them.

Israel has the moral high ground. And no amount of shrieking by leftist Palestinians in a sprint to victimhood changes the fact that Israel’s next door neighbor Hamas murdered thousands of Israelis unprovoked. Israel needs to be allowed to neutralize this threat.

Palestinians need to condemn Hamas and then stop talking. But they don’t do that. They rarely begrudgingly speak against for one sentence then spend the rest of their efforts condemning Israel. It’s clear they don’t really have that big of a problem with Hamas actions here

There’s a well-documented hatred of Israelis by outside nations from Israel in the Middle East who desire Israels extermination. That’s just factual. You should speak against these people, but you support them. Thus, your morality is in question, and rightfully so

 

[TruthNotBS]

I am stumped by what to do with the two million Palestinians living in Gaza. A simple idea is to leave them alone, but this has resulted in endless war with Israel. On the other hand, no other country appears willing to assume responsibility for this area. A third possibility would to resettle these people elsewhere, but who would want to accept them? My biggest fear is that the US might try to do this.

Any thoughts/solutions?

Gaza should become part of Palestine as it was before it was occupied by the Jewish apartheid state of Israhell. The city was turned into a giant concentration camp.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The correct term is about 610 CE. The use of AD is no longer politically correct!

AD
BC

I’ll stop using them when I’m dead.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Gaza should become part of Palestine as it was before

Palestine has never existed as its own state, and has rejected all 2 State solutions. They’ve made it clear they want Israel eliminated and the people exterminated

it was occupied by the Jewish apartheid state of Israhell.

How is Israel an Apartheid state when 20% of the population is Muslim/Arab/Palestinian? (And hold positions in government)

Just because leftists recite this false claim over and over doesn’t make it true. You should look up what an apartheid state actually is in the dictionary

Fact check False. Please inform yourself

 

[Deadstick]

Wanted for war crimes and Genocide, the head of the Israeli airforce, this scumbag was part of the attack on Gaza in 2014.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Palestine has never existed as its own state, and has rejected all 2 State solutions. They’ve made it clear they want Israel eliminated and the people exterminated

How is Israel an Apartheid state when 20% of the population is Muslim/Arab/Palestinian? (And hold positions in government)

Just because leftists recite this false claim over and over doesn’t make it true. You should look up what an apartheid state actually is in the dictionary

Fact check False. Please inform yourself

You don't have a clue about what is happening in the Jewish supremacist state of Israel. The Palestinians (both Muslims and Christians) were forced out of the territories given to the European Jews, which amounted to 56% of the land. Why should the native inhabitants of the Holy Land allow the UN or anyone else to dispossess them of their lands and homes? Hundreds of villages were leveled to the ground. The Haganah and Irgun, considered Zionist terrorists, were slaughtering Palestinian civilians, ethnically cleansing the land, before 1948.

You don't know the history of Palestine under British mandate and how the Zionists, way before 1948, were already planning for the elimination of non-Jews from the land and were committing horrible acts of violence.

The 20% that you mentioned are only those who hold Israeli citizenship and they're heavily discriminated against in Israel. That's why only about 1% of the IDF is Arab, and so many of them migrate out of the country. There are about 100 laws that restrict Palestinian Israelis, from marrying certain people, bringing their families out of the refugee camps to live with them, their ability to acquire building permits, their ability to get certain positions in the government and military.

The rest of the Palestinians who aren't citizens are treated like animals. Both Muslim and Christian Palestinians are dehumanized, dispossessed of their homes and lands, incarcerated without charges ("administrative detention"), surrounded by walls and checkpoints, and prohibited from traveling on most roads.

​

You wicked Zionists are the ones who are out of touch with reality. You're not a true Christian, if you support all of the above Jewish racist evil.

 

[alang1216]

They can try, but they clearly can’t, and they aren’t even trying to defeat the state of Israel. theyre trying to kill Israeli civilians. In contrast, Israel is trying to defeat the military of Hamas, and Gaza civilians are dying in war because they refuse to leave areas in which they are warned will be attacked. You can only do so much for people, and Hamas/Palestinians/Iran does nothing for these people. They are starving them and hiding behind them.

Hamas would say that Israeli civilians are dying in war because they refuse to leave areas in which they are warned will be attacked.

Israel has the moral high ground. And no amount of shrieking by leftist Palestinians in a sprint to victimhood changes the fact that Israel’s next door neighbor Hamas murdered thousands of Israelis unprovoked. Israel needs to be allowed to neutralize this threat.

Sorry but there is no moral high ground here. Both sides are operating in their own self interest.

Palestinians need to condemn Hamas and then stop talking. But they don’t do that. They rarely begrudgingly speak against for one sentence then spend the rest of their efforts condemning Israel. It’s clear they don’t really have that big of a problem with Hamas actions here

Who else if fighting for the Palestinians? Do they have other options?

There’s a well-documented hatred of Israelis by outside nations from Israel in the Middle East who desire Israels extermination. That’s just factual. You should speak against these people, but you support them. Thus, your morality is in question, and rightfully so

Understanding is not support.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

AD
BC

I’ll stop using them when I’m dead.

OK, if you want to remain anachronistic, be my guest!

 

[jwoodie]

How is Israel an Apartheid state when 20% of the population is Muslim/Arab/Palestinian?

They don't have the same voting rights. This is a ticking population bomb that could eliminate the Jewish state.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

so there are no “Palestinians” in any of the surrounding countries? And those people aren’t welcomed? That’s not true.

What is true is that there are no Israelis in the surrounding countries, while Israel houses tons of Muslims/“Palestinians”.

The other countries are the Apartheid states, Israelis aren’t welcomed, and Israelis don’t, and shouldn’t, feel safe to go there given what would happen to them.

Remember, the claims by Palestinians nearly always involve the absolute elimination of the state of Israel. The Palestinians walked away from a 2 state solution countless times over the decades, and made many murderous threats.

We SHOULD be able to join together and denounce people who that..

Yes, there are "Palestinians" as they are incorrectly labeled in surrounding countries who do not want them there. Palestinians in Jordan are restricted to a refugee camp not unlike Gaza in Israel. King Abdullah II of Jordan's wife is "Palestinian", but his father's reign was almost overthrown by Palestinians.

On everything else we agree.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They don't have the same voting rights. This is a ticking population bomb that could eliminate the Jewish state.

Yeah, they do! There are Arab members of the Knesset!

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Gaza should become part of Palestine as it was before it was occupied by the Jewish apartheid state of Israhell. The city was turned into a giant concentration camp.

Shouldn't you be calling Israel "the Zionist Entity", Mr. Taqiyya?

You certainly used the other stupid terrorist cliches.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Yes, there are "Palestinians" as they are incorrectly labeled in surrounding countries who do not want them there. Palestinians in Jordan are restricted to a refugee camp not unlike Gaza in Israel. King Abdullah II of Jordan's wife is "Palestinian", but his father's reign was almost overthrown by Palestinians.

On everything else we agree.

Speaking of which, King Abdulla 1 wrote a notable piece back in the late 40s called "As The Arabs See The Jews" with the typical laundry list of half-truths and dishonest framing techniques, but the one thing that stands out from it for any modern reader is the fact that not once does he mention a "Palestinian" people.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Speaking of which, King Abdulla 1 wrote a notable piece back in the late 40s called "As The Arabs See The Jews" with the typical laundry list of half-truths and dishonest framing techniques, but the one thing that stands out from it for any modern reader is the fact that not once does he mention a "Palestinian" people.

Interesting trivia: Did you know King Abdullah once appeared as a crewmember on an episode of Star Trek: Voyager?

 

[Weatherman2020]

anachronistic

Yes, I preferred the age when people knew what a woman is and guys got the crap beat out of them for hanging out in the women’s bathroom.

 

[Deadstick]

They don't have the same voting rights. This is a ticking population bomb that could eliminate the Jewish state.

With any luck it will, this is how those Zionist thugs deal with fellow jews who are against them.

 

[Weatherman2020]

With any luck it will, this is how those Zionist thugs deal with fellow jews who are against them.

 

[Failzero]

No, they want them in the land they were born in and have lived for generations, i mean what are they thinking?

Like White South Africans ?

 

[Deadstick]

Like White South Africans ?

Yes if they were born there and are willing to accept democracy, for many years those white South Africans kept the blacks under their jackboot same in Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe, i knew two of them.

 

[Deadstick]

View attachment 852625

So no answer to Zionist thuggery against jews?