What will happen after Donald Trump is 100% Exonerated again?

[Dragonlady]

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

You are misconstruing the meaning of this paragraph completely. There can only be two punishments for impeachment regardless of whether criminal activity was involved. The first punishment is removal from office and the second is a prohibition against seeking election for any public office.These are the only punishments the Senate can impose.

The clause you quoted is, in essence, a “notwithstanding” clause. Which means that regardless of whether he has been convicted and removed from office and barred from all from running for office in future, he can still be arrested on criminal charges tried convicted and jailed for any crimes for which he was impeached.

An impeachment is not a criminal trial and therefore the “double jeopardy rule” doesn’t apply.

 

[Dragonlady]

To answer your question in the title - everyone then moves on (hopefully).

Draw a line under it all - both Trump and Biden.

If I was Trump, I'd hold court just now because Biden is a total lunatic as is the Democrat movement.

They'll eat themselves inside-out before long and the other half of America will waken up, then he (Trump) will be vindicated but he could do himself a favour and be dignified in the meantime and accept his proof of rigged elections is either not withstanding scrutiny or accept that he's not presented it (and that's on him).

Then Biden and the democrats need to stop the witch-hunt in return. Stop making a point of reversing every single order Trump made in some childish attempt to eradicate him from American history.

Divisions can't continue.

Biden has no choice but to reverse all of trumps illegal unconstitutional and criminal executive orders.

There will be no locking up of refugees on the border. No Muslim bans. And no border wall. Multi billion dollar boondoggles paid for on a credit card.

Falsifying American history so it’s not to make the country look bad to your children, is over.

The USA is going to run according to democratic values, not authoritarian dictatorship.

Trumps policies have resulted in massive increases in mass shootings, murders, hate crimes, and right wing terrorism.

His economic policies crash the economy. 8 million people have fallen into poverty as a result. 5 million have lost their health insurance. 200,000 businesses have closed.

Why would anyone continue the policies that have led to this?

 

[two_iron]

More ghettos will burn.

So at least some good will come out it.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Will Biden sick his DOJ on him, or will Biden let Trump skate on sedition and insurrection?

Burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt, so there is no chance of that.

What will happen is already happening. Dems and Big Tech will capitalize on this moment, and use it to:

• - Attack right-leaning members of Congress and other public offices.
• - Attempt to convince the members of their party that Republicans are wacko Qanon supporters.
• - Cancel and censor Conservatives everywhere.
• - Try to get the Republican Party to fracture...

Report: More Than 120 Republicans In Talks To Form âAnti-Trumpâ Political Party

The center-right group, which could be called the Integrity Party, would reportedly run on a platform of “principled conservatism” and ideals Trump abandoned.

www.forbes.com

Us Republicans should be careful. Fracturing means we never win again. We were supposed to let the Dems fracture. They were well on their way, but now that Biden is sucking up to the Leftists with crazy executive orders, and the MSM is focused on crazy Republicans, which there are some, that seems far less likely.

 

[ThisIsMe]

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

You are misconstruing the meaning of this paragraph completely. There can only be two punishments for impeachment regardless of whether criminal activity was involved. The first punishment is removal from office and the second is a prohibition against seeking election for any public office.These are the only punishments the Senate can impose.

The clause you quoted is, in essence, a “notwithstanding” clause. Which means that regardless of whether he has been convicted and removed from office and barred from all from running for office in future, he can still be arrested on criminal charges tried convicted and jailed for any crimes for which he was impeached.

An impeachment is not a criminal trial and therefore the “double jeopardy rule” doesn’t apply.

Well, it says "the party convicted...", that leads me to think its a conditional statement. Conditional in that, if the impeached party is convicted, they are then also subject to criminal charged, but if not convicted, then the rest doesn't apply.

As far as the double jealousy clause, I don't believe there is a requirement that it has to be a criminal trial. The 5th ammendment doesn't make that distinction. It just says no personal shall be subject twice to the same offense.

It just doesn't make sense to allow both, because it could very easily be a prosecution of personal vendetta. If the impeached is not found guilty in the senate trial, we'll then we can just keep on suing him until we get the outcome we desire. I don't think the justice system was intended to be used that way, and likely why they put that in the 5th ammendment.

Also, I don't think a criminal trial is possible for trump as it would be impossible to select a jury that isn't biased, since EVERYONE knows about this case.

 

[Dragonlady]

Not really. Those in the GOP establishment like Romney, Kasich, the Bush Family, etc., are cool with 2nd place finishes. They have set a bar they figure they can reach.

The win at any cost attitude is quite harmful to the country.

It served the Democrats pretty well, no?

Where have you been? The Dems have been getting their asses kicked from one end of the country to the other since 2000. Except for getting Obama, Dems have won NOTHING, up until 2018, when the whole nation stood up and said "We did NOT vote for Trump so fuck him!!!", and the voters have been on a mission to get rid of him since the day he was inaugurated.

 

[AZrailwhale]

What will happen after Donald Trump is 100% Exonerated again?-Nostra

He will run again in 2024, I think.

I don’t think he will bother. A man at his age has better things to do than be a punching bag for liberals.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Then Biden and the democrats need to stop the witch-hunt in return. Stop making a point of reversing every single order Trump made in some childish attempt to eradicate him from American history.

So, you don't want Biden to do what Trump did to Obama? Seems hypocritical.

Divisions can't continue.

But they will. Hand wringing changes nothing.

Herr Himmler, what if Trump did to Xi's man what Obama did to him?

What if he had the KGB spy in him and worked with the Kremlin to defame in in the press? What if he had the KGB lie to the courts and started a witch hunt against Xi's man?

What if you simply just shut the fuck up? Your retarded conspiracy theories are not necessary, you Cult45 twat.

 

[Dragonlady]

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

You are misconstruing the meaning of this paragraph completely. There can only be two punishments for impeachment regardless of whether criminal activity was involved. The first punishment is removal from office and the second is a prohibition against seeking election for any public office.These are the only punishments the Senate can impose.

The clause you quoted is, in essence, a “notwithstanding” clause. Which means that regardless of whether he has been convicted and removed from office and barred from all from running for office in future, he can still be arrested on criminal charges tried convicted and jailed for any crimes for which he was impeached.

An impeachment is not a criminal trial and therefore the “double jeopardy rule” doesn’t apply.

Well, it says "the party convicted...", that leads me to think its a conditional statement. Conditional in that, if the impeached party is convicted, they are then also subject to criminal charged, but if not convicted, then the rest doesn't apply.

As far as the double jealousy clause, I don't believe there is a requirement that it has to be a criminal trial. The 5th ammendment doesn't make that distinction. It just says no personal shall be subject twice to the same offense.

It just doesn't make sense to allow both, because it could very easily be a prosecution of personal vendetta. If the impeached is not found guilty in the senate trial, we'll then we can just keep on suing him until we get the outcome we desire. I don't think the justice system was intended to be used that way, and likely why they put that in the 5th ammendment.

Also, I don't think a criminal trial is possible for trump as it would be impossible to select a jury that isn't biased, since EVERYONE knows about this case.

In Trump's first impeachment, the Republican Senator's said that they believed Trump guilty, but they thought it wrong to take that decision away from the American voters and that they should be allowed to decide his fate. In reality, they didn't want to be primaried and they were scared of Trump. And he could be charged criminally once he's out of office.

 

[otto105]

 

[Dragonlady]

Biden has said he won't do it, but the State of Georgia is already preparing charges for election interference because of his phone call, and attacks on state officials. Michigan is looking at doing the same.

The State of New York is pursuing tax fraud charges against the whole Trump Family, and bank/insurance fraud against the Trump Corporation.

There's also Mary Trump's fraud case against her uncle, and two slander cases against Dumb Donald brought by women he sexually assaulted, and then called "liars" when they confirmed that he attacked them.

No, actually they are not.

You got smacked down on that lie yesterday, but here you are today telling the same damned lie.

NOT one of you Nazis has so much as a HINT of integrity, not a shred or smattering.

Actually, they are:

Georgia Prosecutors Open Criminal Inquiry Into Trump’s Efforts to Subvert Election (Published 2021)

State officials are being instructed to preserve documents related to “attempts to influence” the Georgia election, just weeks after former President Donald J. Trump asked an elections official to “find” votes.

www.nytimes.com

Read before you post;

{


While the letter does not mention Mr. Trump by name, it is related to his efforts to change the outcome of Georgia’s election, according to a state official with knowledge of the matter. A copy of the letter was obtained by The New York Times.

Of particular note in Ms. Willis’s letter was the wider scope of the investigation. Potential violations of state law include “the solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the election’s administration,” the letter states.

}

Not only are they not "preparing charges" as you lied - they don't even mention Trump in their fishing expedition of an "investigation."

Again, you were corrected on this lie yesterday, yet here you are lying again.

The article didn't mention Trump at all? His name is in the fucking headline, you dolt!

Once again you're trying to twist things to say what YOU want them to say. Calling everyone a communist chinese or a nazi just makes you read like an unhinged lunatic.

Trump is twice impeached for his crimes. Criminal charges are coming. Suck on it you crazed loon.

 

[Polishprince]

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

You are misconstruing the meaning of this paragraph completely. There can only be two punishments for impeachment regardless of whether criminal activity was involved. The first punishment is removal from office and the second is a prohibition against seeking election for any public office.These are the only punishments the Senate can impose.

The clause you quoted is, in essence, a “notwithstanding” clause. Which means that regardless of whether he has been convicted and removed from office and barred from all from running for office in future, he can still be arrested on criminal charges tried convicted and jailed for any crimes for which he was impeached.

An impeachment is not a criminal trial and therefore the “double jeopardy rule” doesn’t apply.

Well, it says "the party convicted...", that leads me to think its a conditional statement. Conditional in that, if the impeached party is convicted, they are then also subject to criminal charged, but if not convicted, then the rest doesn't apply.

As far as the double jealousy clause, I don't believe there is a requirement that it has to be a criminal trial. The 5th ammendment doesn't make that distinction. It just says no personal shall be subject twice to the same offense.

It just doesn't make sense to allow both, because it could very easily be a prosecution of personal vendetta. If the impeached is not found guilty in the senate trial, we'll then we can just keep on suing him until we get the outcome we desire. I don't think the justice system was intended to be used that way, and likely why they put that in the 5th ammendment.

Also, I don't think a criminal trial is possible for trump as it would be impossible to select a jury that isn't biased, since EVERYONE knows about this case.

In Trump's first impeachment, the Republican Senator's said that they believed Trump guilty, but they thought it wrong to take that decision away from the American voters and that they should be allowed to decide his fate. In reality, they didn't want to be primaried and they were scared of Trump. And he could be charged criminally once he's out of office.

No one is scared of Trump, they are scared of Trump voters.

If a Republican decides to forfeit the 93% of all GOP votes, its just too big of a mountain to overcome. Regardless of how much liberals like you SAY you will respect guys like Flake and Romney, you'll stab them in the back during the general election and you know that's true.

Remember John McCain. Spent a quarter century kissing liberal butt. Finally got the nomination. The libs IMMEDIATELY threw him under the bus for Hussein.

 

[ThisIsMe]

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

I'm curious if that is possible, because of this:

but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

If trump is not convicted, then he would not be able to be sued again in civil court. Wouldn't that trigger the double jeopardy clause?

You are misconstruing the meaning of this paragraph completely. There can only be two punishments for impeachment regardless of whether criminal activity was involved. The first punishment is removal from office and the second is a prohibition against seeking election for any public office.These are the only punishments the Senate can impose.

The clause you quoted is, in essence, a “notwithstanding” clause. Which means that regardless of whether he has been convicted and removed from office and barred from all from running for office in future, he can still be arrested on criminal charges tried convicted and jailed for any crimes for which he was impeached.

An impeachment is not a criminal trial and therefore the “double jeopardy rule” doesn’t apply.

Well, it says "the party convicted...", that leads me to think its a conditional statement. Conditional in that, if the impeached party is convicted, they are then also subject to criminal charged, but if not convicted, then the rest doesn't apply.

As far as the double jealousy clause, I don't believe there is a requirement that it has to be a criminal trial. The 5th ammendment doesn't make that distinction. It just says no personal shall be subject twice to the same offense.

It just doesn't make sense to allow both, because it could very easily be a prosecution of personal vendetta. If the impeached is not found guilty in the senate trial, we'll then we can just keep on suing him until we get the outcome we desire. I don't think the justice system was intended to be used that way, and likely why they put that in the 5th ammendment.

Also, I don't think a criminal trial is possible for trump as it would be impossible to select a jury that isn't biased, since EVERYONE knows about this case.

In Trump's first impeachment, the Republican Senator's said that they believed Trump guilty, but they thought it wrong to take that decision away from the American voters and that they should be allowed to decide his fate. In reality, they didn't want to be primaried and they were scared of Trump. And he could be charged criminally once he's out of office.

Hmm, I dont recall exactly what the senators said. Would be cool if we had an unbiased lawyer on usmb to give a more legal answer.

 

[Polishprince]

Who wants to give money to those bozos? Trump lost, and out of office and libs insist he is gone forever.

 

[otto105]

He will be acquited on all that.

Such will cause the TDS morons to take the next step and try to prosecute him as a civilian for nonsense.

Biden won’t have to ask the DOJ do anything, GA just fired a shot.

 

[otto105]

Who wants to give money to those bozos? Trump lost, and out of office and libs insist he is gone forever.

The ad is aimed at his sycophants bunghole.

 

[Polishprince]

Who wants to give money to those bozos? Trump lost, and out of office and libs insist he is gone forever.

The ad is aimed at his sycophants bunghole.

For what purpose? To get Trump supporters to back Sleepy Joe now?

 

[HenryBHough]

Xiden already forgotten how to pronounce the name "Trump".

The BLM and Antifa mobs have not.

WHEN President Trump walks the goon squads will race to their Molotov cocktail factories and all Hell will break loose again.

Fortunately most of the killings and burnings will be in Democrat cities 'cause dat be where dey lives!

 

[otto105]

Who wants to give money to those bozos? Trump lost, and out of office and libs insist he is gone forever.

The ad is aimed at his sycophants bunghole.

For what purpose? To get Trump supporters to back Sleepy Joe now?

2022.

The trump branded QOP will have answer for it.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump has never been exonerated. His mates let him off in a political act. It will probably happen again.
His future now lies in the many court cases relating to his dishonesty. The rest of his life will be spent in legal wrangles to keep him out of jail.

He was impeached as a political act so why not be "let off" as a political act?