When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Socialism?

[TNHarley]

The damn link says there is a dollar store. Dollar stores have a whole damn section dedicated to.....







Wait for it...




Food!
Holy shit batman. /thread

 

[pknopp]

The damn link says there is a dollar store. Dollar stores have a whole damn section dedicated to.....







Wait for it...




Food!
Holy shit batman. /thread

They have a small amount of food items. They don't have fresh vegetables. Meats (outside of some lunch meat) etc.

 

[flack]

Not socialism. Nobody is given anything. People are paid for their work. A profit is made although as little as possible and what profit is made is reinvested in the town.

The state owns and controls the means of production, so yes, it is Socialism.

No it is a town. They pay for the goods they sell. So no they don't own the production of goods.

 

[22lcidw]

Not socialism. Nobody is given anything. People are paid for their work. A profit is made although as little as possible and what profit is made is reinvested in the town.

The state owns and controls the means of production, so yes, it is Socialism.

Because people tell you capitalism and socialism does not mean they are pure capitalists. Somehow Progs always goes back to the primal ways of anything against non Progs. There are sensible things that can be cone. Maybe this is. I can tell you a very non sensible thing. Paying a young woman money and benefits for having multiple children out of wedlock with different men. Been doing it for many decades. We are suffering for it today. And of course you will come back with a retort or even a reason for abortions.

 

[TNHarley]

The damn link says there is a dollar store. Dollar stores have a whole damn section dedicated to.....







Wait for it...




Food!
Holy shit batman. /thread

They have a small amount of food items. They don't have fresh vegetables. Meats (outside of some lunch meat) etc.

Lol ahhhhhh so now we have goal posts. How intellectually dishonest.
BTW, they have all kinds of frozen meats.
Some DGs have fresh veggies
I looked up the DG in that town and they dont have fresh food but they have plenty of food.
Again, the food market is not owned by the people. Just one place is.

 

[flack]

Not socialism. Nobody is given anything. People are paid for their work. A profit is made although as little as possible and what profit is made is reinvested in the town.

The state owns and controls the means of production, so yes, it is Socialism.

No it is a town. They pay for the goods they sell. So no they don't own the production of goods.

Socialism would mean they own or control the farms, the venders, and their employees. They don't.

 

[JGalt]

Interesting--a city-owned supermarket...designed to break even..for the good of its residents--but City run private enterprise..is NOT capitalism--It just struck me..that the 'socialism' word gets tossed around a lot..mostly by those who have little or no idea of what is actually means---this..is what it means, at the grass-roots:

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don’t call it ‘socialism.’

"When Sean Lynch ran for mayor, he never anticipated that the job would involve hiring a butcher and tracking the sale of collard greens. Baldwin, Fla., is surrounded by farm country, and in late October, local green beans, tomatoes, peanuts, cabbage and milk filled the shelves of the Baldwin Market, which the town owns.

Notably, these experiments in communal ownership are taking place in deep-red parts of the country where the word “socialism” is anathema. “You expect to hear about this in a place like the People’s Republic of Massachusetts,” jokes Brian Lang, the director of the National Campaign for Healthy Food Access at The Food Trust.

But in many rural, conservative communities struggling to hang on to their remaining residents, ideological arguments about the role of government tend to be cast aside as grocery stores shutter due to population decline and competition from superstores.

“Fundamentally, what you have is people that have lived in these rural communities all their lives, and they want these rural communities to survive,” Procter said. “And they realize that without access to food, they’re not going to survive.”

By definition, a collectively owned, government-run enterprise like the Baldwin Market is inherently socialist. But Lynch, who has a nonpartisan position but governs a town where 68 percent of residents voted for Donald Trump in 2016, doesn’t see it that way. From his point of view, the town is just doing what it’s supposed to do: Providing services to residents who already pay enough in taxes.

. At the Baldwin Market, which opened its doors on Sept. 20, all of the employees are on the municipal payroll, from the butcher to the cashiers. Workers from the town’s maintenance department take breaks from cutting grass to help unload deliveries, and residents flag down the mayor when they want to request a specific type of milk.

“We're not trying to make a profit,” Lynch told The Washington Post in a recent interview. “We're trying to cover our expenses, and keep the store running. Any money that's made after that will go into the town in some way.”"

22 miles from Baldwin to Jacksonville, and you get a tingle up your leg because you think they're having to go "socialist" in order to eat?



And only 12 miles to the Walmart Super Center in Macclenny?



Geezus Christ, man. Yer fuckin' killin' me.

I live in a small town of only 5,000 or so people, and we don't have a grocery store either. But we do have a Walmart.

We also have one of those socialist hippie food coops, which I wouldn't be caught dead in. I'd much rather drive 39 miles to the Piggly Wiggly in another town, than to give those socialist zipperheads a dime of my money.

 

[flack]

The damn link says there is a dollar store. Dollar stores have a whole damn section dedicated to.....







Wait for it...




Food!
Holy shit batman. /thread

They have a small amount of food items. They don't have fresh vegetables. Meats (outside of some lunch meat) etc.

Surely they have gas stations other the truck stop. Hell around here you got WAWA, Royal Farms, 7-11, and a bunch of independent stations that sell food. Most of it pretty dang good.

 

[pknopp]

The damn link says there is a dollar store. Dollar stores have a whole damn section dedicated to.....







Wait for it...




Food!
Holy shit batman. /thread

They have a small amount of food items. They don't have fresh vegetables. Meats (outside of some lunch meat) etc.

Lol ahhhhhh so now we have goal posts. How intellectually dishonest.
BTW, they have all kinds of frozen meats.
Some DGs have fresh veggies
I looked up the DG in that town and they dont have fresh food but they have plenty of food.
Again, the food market is not owned by the people. Just one place is.

There is one grocery store and it's owned by the city. What are you even arguing?

 

[TNHarley]

The damn link says there is a dollar store. Dollar stores have a whole damn section dedicated to.....







Wait for it...




Food!
Holy shit batman. /thread

They have a small amount of food items. They don't have fresh vegetables. Meats (outside of some lunch meat) etc.

Lol ahhhhhh so now we have goal posts. How intellectually dishonest.
BTW, they have all kinds of frozen meats.
Some DGs have fresh veggies
I looked up the DG in that town and they dont have fresh food but they have plenty of food.
Again, the food market is not owned by the people. Just one place is.

There is one grocery store and it's owned by the city. What are you even arguing?

Ok fine
The town owns the grocery store that doesnt sell anything else market
But they dont own the food market.
Go REAL socialism!
Are you happy now?

 

[Likkmee]

Interesting--a city-owned supermarket...designed to break even..for the good of its residents--but City run private enterprise..is NOT capitalism--It just struck me..that the 'socialism' word gets tossed around a lot..mostly by those who have little or no idea of what is actually means---this..is what it means, at the grass-roots:

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don’t call it ‘socialism.’

"When Sean Lynch ran for mayor, he never anticipated that the job would involve hiring a butcher and tracking the sale of collard greens. Baldwin, Fla., is surrounded by farm country, and in late October, local green beans, tomatoes, peanuts, cabbage and milk filled the shelves of the Baldwin Market, which the town owns.

Notably, these experiments in communal ownership are taking place in deep-red parts of the country where the word “socialism” is anathema. “You expect to hear about this in a place like the People’s Republic of Massachusetts,” jokes Brian Lang, the director of the National Campaign for Healthy Food Access at The Food Trust.

But in many rural, conservative communities struggling to hang on to their remaining residents, ideological arguments about the role of government tend to be cast aside as grocery stores shutter due to population decline and competition from superstores.

“Fundamentally, what you have is people that have lived in these rural communities all their lives, and they want these rural communities to survive,” Procter said. “And they realize that without access to food, they’re not going to survive.”

By definition, a collectively owned, government-run enterprise like the Baldwin Market is inherently socialist. But Lynch, who has a nonpartisan position but governs a town where 68 percent of residents voted for Donald Trump in 2016, doesn’t see it that way. From his point of view, the town is just doing what it’s supposed to do: Providing services to residents who already pay enough in taxes.

. At the Baldwin Market, which opened its doors on Sept. 20, all of the employees are on the municipal payroll, from the butcher to the cashiers. Workers from the town’s maintenance department take breaks from cutting grass to help unload deliveries, and residents flag down the mayor when they want to request a specific type of milk.

“We're not trying to make a profit,” Lynch told The Washington Post in a recent interview. “We're trying to cover our expenses, and keep the store running. Any money that's made after that will go into the town in some way.”"

Do they take food stamps ?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Interesting--a city-owned supermarket...designed to break even..for the good of its residents--but City run private enterprise..is NOT capitalism--It just struck me..that the 'socialism' word gets tossed around a lot..mostly by those who have little or no idea of what is actually means---this..is what it means, at the grass-roots:

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don’t call it ‘socialism.’

"When Sean Lynch ran for mayor, he never anticipated that the job would involve hiring a butcher and tracking the sale of collard greens. Baldwin, Fla., is surrounded by farm country, and in late October, local green beans, tomatoes, peanuts, cabbage and milk filled the shelves of the Baldwin Market, which the town owns.

Notably, these experiments in communal ownership are taking place in deep-red parts of the country where the word “socialism” is anathema. “You expect to hear about this in a place like the People’s Republic of Massachusetts,” jokes Brian Lang, the director of the National Campaign for Healthy Food Access at The Food Trust.

But in many rural, conservative communities struggling to hang on to their remaining residents, ideological arguments about the role of government tend to be cast aside as grocery stores shutter due to population decline and competition from superstores.

“Fundamentally, what you have is people that have lived in these rural communities all their lives, and they want these rural communities to survive,” Procter said. “And they realize that without access to food, they’re not going to survive.”

By definition, a collectively owned, government-run enterprise like the Baldwin Market is inherently socialist. But Lynch, who has a nonpartisan position but governs a town where 68 percent of residents voted for Donald Trump in 2016, doesn’t see it that way. From his point of view, the town is just doing what it’s supposed to do: Providing services to residents who already pay enough in taxes.

. At the Baldwin Market, which opened its doors on Sept. 20, all of the employees are on the municipal payroll, from the butcher to the cashiers. Workers from the town’s maintenance department take breaks from cutting grass to help unload deliveries, and residents flag down the mayor when they want to request a specific type of milk.

“We're not trying to make a profit,” Lynch told The Washington Post in a recent interview. “We're trying to cover our expenses, and keep the store running. Any money that's made after that will go into the town in some way.”"

22 miles from Baldwin to Jacksonville, and you get a tingle up your leg because you think they're having to go "socialist" in order to eat?



And only 12 miles to the Walmart Super Center in Macclenny?



Geezus Christ, man. Yer fuckin' killin' me.

I live in a small town of only 5,000 or so people, and we don't have a grocery store either. But we do have a Walmart.

We also have one of those socialist hippie food coops, which I wouldn't be caught dead in. I'd much rather drive 39 miles to the Piggly Wiggly in another town, than to give those socialist zipperheads a dime of my money.

So..question is..do you think this is Socialist as well?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Interesting--a city-owned supermarket...designed to break even..for the good of its residents--but City run private enterprise..is NOT capitalism--It just struck me..that the 'socialism' word gets tossed around a lot..mostly by those who have little or no idea of what is actually means---this..is what it means, at the grass-roots:

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don’t call it ‘socialism.’

"When Sean Lynch ran for mayor, he never anticipated that the job would involve hiring a butcher and tracking the sale of collard greens. Baldwin, Fla., is surrounded by farm country, and in late October, local green beans, tomatoes, peanuts, cabbage and milk filled the shelves of the Baldwin Market, which the town owns.

Notably, these experiments in communal ownership are taking place in deep-red parts of the country where the word “socialism” is anathema. “You expect to hear about this in a place like the People’s Republic of Massachusetts,” jokes Brian Lang, the director of the National Campaign for Healthy Food Access at The Food Trust.

But in many rural, conservative communities struggling to hang on to their remaining residents, ideological arguments about the role of government tend to be cast aside as grocery stores shutter due to population decline and competition from superstores.

“Fundamentally, what you have is people that have lived in these rural communities all their lives, and they want these rural communities to survive,” Procter said. “And they realize that without access to food, they’re not going to survive.”

By definition, a collectively owned, government-run enterprise like the Baldwin Market is inherently socialist. But Lynch, who has a nonpartisan position but governs a town where 68 percent of residents voted for Donald Trump in 2016, doesn’t see it that way. From his point of view, the town is just doing what it’s supposed to do: Providing services to residents who already pay enough in taxes.

. At the Baldwin Market, which opened its doors on Sept. 20, all of the employees are on the municipal payroll, from the butcher to the cashiers. Workers from the town’s maintenance department take breaks from cutting grass to help unload deliveries, and residents flag down the mayor when they want to request a specific type of milk.

“We're not trying to make a profit,” Lynch told The Washington Post in a recent interview. “We're trying to cover our expenses, and keep the store running. Any money that's made after that will go into the town in some way.”"

Do they take food stamps ?

Yes....you're welcome there!

 

[JGalt]

Interesting--a city-owned supermarket...designed to break even..for the good of its residents--but City run private enterprise..is NOT capitalism--It just struck me..that the 'socialism' word gets tossed around a lot..mostly by those who have little or no idea of what is actually means---this..is what it means, at the grass-roots:

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don’t call it ‘socialism.’

"When Sean Lynch ran for mayor, he never anticipated that the job would involve hiring a butcher and tracking the sale of collard greens. Baldwin, Fla., is surrounded by farm country, and in late October, local green beans, tomatoes, peanuts, cabbage and milk filled the shelves of the Baldwin Market, which the town owns.

Notably, these experiments in communal ownership are taking place in deep-red parts of the country where the word “socialism” is anathema. “You expect to hear about this in a place like the People’s Republic of Massachusetts,” jokes Brian Lang, the director of the National Campaign for Healthy Food Access at The Food Trust.

But in many rural, conservative communities struggling to hang on to their remaining residents, ideological arguments about the role of government tend to be cast aside as grocery stores shutter due to population decline and competition from superstores.

“Fundamentally, what you have is people that have lived in these rural communities all their lives, and they want these rural communities to survive,” Procter said. “And they realize that without access to food, they’re not going to survive.”

By definition, a collectively owned, government-run enterprise like the Baldwin Market is inherently socialist. But Lynch, who has a nonpartisan position but governs a town where 68 percent of residents voted for Donald Trump in 2016, doesn’t see it that way. From his point of view, the town is just doing what it’s supposed to do: Providing services to residents who already pay enough in taxes.

. At the Baldwin Market, which opened its doors on Sept. 20, all of the employees are on the municipal payroll, from the butcher to the cashiers. Workers from the town’s maintenance department take breaks from cutting grass to help unload deliveries, and residents flag down the mayor when they want to request a specific type of milk.

“We're not trying to make a profit,” Lynch told The Washington Post in a recent interview. “We're trying to cover our expenses, and keep the store running. Any money that's made after that will go into the town in some way.”"

22 miles from Baldwin to Jacksonville, and you get a tingle up your leg because you think they're having to go "socialist" in order to eat?



And only 12 miles to the Walmart Super Center in Macclenny?



Geezus Christ, man. Yer fuckin' killin' me.

I live in a small town of only 5,000 or so people, and we don't have a grocery store either. But we do have a Walmart.

We also have one of those socialist hippie food coops, which I wouldn't be caught dead in. I'd much rather drive 39 miles to the Piggly Wiggly in another town, than to give those socialist zipperheads a dime of my money.

So..question is..do you think this is Socialist as well?

Nope. The food isn't grown to be collected by the store, and distributed to the people who live in the town. It's still capitalism.

 

[Likkmee]

Interesting--a city-owned supermarket...designed to break even..for the good of its residents--but City run private enterprise..is NOT capitalism--It just struck me..that the 'socialism' word gets tossed around a lot..mostly by those who have little or no idea of what is actually means---this..is what it means, at the grass-roots:

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Just don’t call it ‘socialism.’

"When Sean Lynch ran for mayor, he never anticipated that the job would involve hiring a butcher and tracking the sale of collard greens. Baldwin, Fla., is surrounded by farm country, and in late October, local green beans, tomatoes, peanuts, cabbage and milk filled the shelves of the Baldwin Market, which the town owns.

Notably, these experiments in communal ownership are taking place in deep-red parts of the country where the word “socialism” is anathema. “You expect to hear about this in a place like the People’s Republic of Massachusetts,” jokes Brian Lang, the director of the National Campaign for Healthy Food Access at The Food Trust.

But in many rural, conservative communities struggling to hang on to their remaining residents, ideological arguments about the role of government tend to be cast aside as grocery stores shutter due to population decline and competition from superstores.

“Fundamentally, what you have is people that have lived in these rural communities all their lives, and they want these rural communities to survive,” Procter said. “And they realize that without access to food, they’re not going to survive.”

By definition, a collectively owned, government-run enterprise like the Baldwin Market is inherently socialist. But Lynch, who has a nonpartisan position but governs a town where 68 percent of residents voted for Donald Trump in 2016, doesn’t see it that way. From his point of view, the town is just doing what it’s supposed to do: Providing services to residents who already pay enough in taxes.

. At the Baldwin Market, which opened its doors on Sept. 20, all of the employees are on the municipal payroll, from the butcher to the cashiers. Workers from the town’s maintenance department take breaks from cutting grass to help unload deliveries, and residents flag down the mayor when they want to request a specific type of milk.

“We're not trying to make a profit,” Lynch told The Washington Post in a recent interview. “We're trying to cover our expenses, and keep the store running. Any money that's made after that will go into the town in some way.”"

22 miles from Baldwin to Jacksonville, and you get a tingle up your leg because you think they're having to go "socialist" in order to eat?



And only 12 miles to the Walmart Super Center in Macclenny?



Geezus Christ, man. Yer fuckin' killin' me.

I live in a small town of only 5,000 or so people, and we don't have a grocery store either. But we do have a Walmart.

We also have one of those socialist hippie food coops, which I wouldn't be caught dead in. I'd much rather drive 39 miles to the Piggly Wiggly in another town, than to give those socialist zipperheads a dime of my money.

So..question is..do you think this is Socialist as well?

NO. Not if I can have part of another "govt" building to open a head shop

 

[MAGAman]

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Socialism?

Not unless the city closed down the grocery store itself.

Socialism is when you replace free markets with government.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Socialism?

Not unless the city closed down the grocery store itself.

Socialism is when you replace free markets with government.

,,,and yet, in microcosm..is this not exactly what happened...a 'free market' was replaced by Govt. ownership. Could an outside store compete with the Govt store?

 

[okfine]

Not socialism. Nobody is given anything. People are paid for their work. A profit is made although as little as possible and what profit is made is reinvested in the town.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The Federal Reserve gives the markets billions and that is not "socialism". Trump gives corporate farmers tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars but thats not "socialism".

Please, make up your mind. This is as close to what socialism as one would ever find. Socialism is the government owning the production. That is what is happening here. Socialism is NOT everyone getting something free. That is crony capitalism.

A little off topic, but what about (lol) the commissary on base?

Could it be on the chopping block?

The End of the Commissary System? What Merger Plans Could Mean for Your Shopping Benefit

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Not socialism. Nobody is given anything. People are paid for their work. A profit is made although as little as possible and what profit is made is reinvested in the town.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The Federal Reserve gives the markets billions and that is not "socialism". Trump gives corporate farmers tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars but thats not "socialism".

Please, make up your mind. This is as close to what socialism as one would ever find. Socialism is the government owning the production. That is what is happening here. Socialism is NOT everyone getting something free. That is crony capitalism.

A little off topic, but what about (lol) the commissary on base?

Could it be on the chopping block?

The End of the Commissary System? What Merger Plans Could Mean for Your Shopping Benefit

I'm against the merger...commissary should remain a perk.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

When a deep red town’s only grocery closed, city hall opened its own store. Socialism?

Not unless the city closed down the grocery store itself.

Socialism is when you replace free markets with government.

It really isnt. Socialism cant be described in one little soundbite. Its a lot of different things. If a big chain opened up in that town their own store would close up pretty quickly. Food retail is geared towards big business. Pretty much all of retail is.

I would imagine the city would be glad if someone stepped in. Their job is not selling beans but sometimes the state has to step in when there is a need.