When is rape not a crime?

[Intense]

Reagan was pretty cool.

 

[Yukon]

Reagan was pretty cool.

He was actually quite mad.

 

[JakeStarkey]

In the end, he wasn't anything. He said about Iran-Contral that he could not recall, and in the end he certainly did not recall anything. Appropriate.

 

[Intense]

In the end, he wasn't anything. He said about Iran-Contral that he could not recall, and in the end he certainly did not recall anything. Appropriate.

Context. He didn't Kiss and Tell. The CIA could totally trust His Confidentiality.

 

[DiveCon]

"he was a low life SCUMBAG"

...........of whom do you refer.....Arafat or Reagan ?

arafat, of course, the scumbag that hides behind women and children

 

[Liability]

<sheepish grin>

No reason to be sheepish. All non-visually impaired heterosexually inclined males agree with me. And you also come across as intelligent and amiable. If my wife wouldn't kick me in the zipper for it, I'd definitely blow on your tummy!

 

[Yukon]

arafat, of course, the scumbag that hides behind women and children

I thought you meant Reagan, he was quite mad in the end.

 

[DiveCon]

arafat, of course, the scumbag that hides behind women and children

I thought you meant Reagan, he was quite mad in the end.

of course you would, you delusional piece of shit

 

[JD_2B]

OK When did REAGAN join the discussion?? Hes DEAD!!! He has nothing to do with this case, whatsoever.

PS- Reagan had higher ratings than any other president in the past, what, 35 years, or so?!

<smooches to Liability, with mountains of respect to that lucky little lady of his> :winks:

 

[Yukon]

Reagan was dead behind the eyes for most of the 80's. He made it official in the late 90's.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sheesh, JD_2B, go talk to Intense who brought up Reagan.

The modern perversion of conservative doctrine began during his presidency and continued right through 2009, as the palinistas attempt to continue its degradation.

 

[Intense]

Sheesh, JD_2B, go talk to Intense who brought up Reagan.

The modern perversion of conservative doctrine began during his presidency and continued right through 2009, as the palinistas attempt to continue its degradation.

Are you snacking on the Urinal cakes again Jake?

 

[DiveCon]

Sheesh, JD_2B, go talk to Intense who brought up Reagan.

The modern perversion of conservative doctrine began during his presidency and continued right through 2009, as the palinistas attempt to continue its degradation.

Are you snacking on the Urinal cakes again Jake?

you mean "still"
LOL

 

[JD_2B]

Sheesh, JD_2B, go talk to Intense who brought up Reagan.

The modern perversion of conservative doctrine began during his presidency and continued right through 2009, as the palinistas attempt to continue its degradation.

Now, now.. We all know Reagan was a pretty darn good president, and one of the most ethical we have had in the past 100 years or so.. And I don't think he got his ratings simply because he was a movie star, either, although that did contribute to much of the popular neo-con culture that he obviously had a hand in commissioning..

Don't forget Rush Limbaugh (neocon psycho druggie extraordinaire WITH a nationally syndicated radio show, yay, not) and the US-Gorbechev relationship with Bush.. And yeah- Reagan too- he had a personal relationship with Gorby..

I mean, Bush was a big-government conservative, which of course fucked things up a lot, too.. and seemed to change even conservative ideals slightly..

We can't attribute neo-conism to one person. I just think you are giving Reagan way too much credit for it, lol

Sigh..

When did the conversation move from "He didn't rape-rape her" to this??? What page are we on now??

 

[Yukon]

Rape isnt a crime when a Jewish female is forced to have sex with a camel - they like it, the Jew that is.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sheesh, JD_2B, go talk to Intense who brought up Reagan.

The modern perversion of conservative doctrine began during his presidency and continued right through 2009, as the palinistas attempt to continue its degradation.

Now, now.. We all know Reagan was a pretty darn good president, and one of the most ethical we have had in the past 100 years or so.. And I don't think he got his ratings simply because he was a movie star, either, although that did contribute to much of the popular neo-con culture that he obviously had a hand in commissioning..

Don't forget Rush Limbaugh (neocon psycho druggie extraordinaire WITH a nationally syndicated radio show, yay, not) and the US-Gorbechev relationship with Bush.. And yeah- Reagan too- he had a personal relationship with Gorby..

I mean, Bush was a big-government conservative, which of course fucked things up a lot, too.. and seemed to change even conservative ideals slightly..

We can't attribute neo-conism to one person. I just think you are giving Reagan way too much credit for it, lol

Sigh..

When did the conversation move from "He didn't rape-rape her" to this??? What page are we on now??

Who said anything about neo-cons. Stay on track, please. I am talking about the perversion of conservative Republican principles. It began during the conservative insurgency of the Reagan years and smashed in the elections of 2008 and 2009, when the far right libertariantards and palinistas got smacked down.

Watch the House vote on the procedural move on health reform. If enough Dems defect from the leadership's bill, then the GOP with the hard rightwing still has some relevance. If not, then the GOP with that wing is irrelevant in American politics.

 

[Liability]

Sheesh, JD_2B, go talk to Intense who brought up Reagan.

The modern perversion of conservative doctrine began during his presidency and continued right through 2009, as the palinistas attempt to continue its degradation.

Now, now.. We all know Reagan was a pretty darn good president, and one of the most ethical we have had in the past 100 years or so.. And I don't think he got his ratings simply because he was a movie star, either, although that did contribute to much of the popular neo-con culture that he obviously had a hand in commissioning..

Don't forget Rush Limbaugh (neocon psycho druggie extraordinaire WITH a nationally syndicated radio show, yay, not) and the US-Gorbechev relationship with Bush.. And yeah- Reagan too- he had a personal relationship with Gorby..

I mean, Bush was a big-government conservative, which of course fucked things up a lot, too.. and seemed to change even conservative ideals slightly..

We can't attribute neo-conism to one person. I just think you are giving Reagan way too much credit for it, lol

Sigh..

When did the conversation move from "He didn't rape-rape her" to this??? What page are we on now??

Who said anything about neo-cons. Stay on track, please. I am talking about the perversion of conservative Republican principles. It began during the conservative insurgency of the Reagan years and smashed in the elections of 2008 and 2009, when the far right libertariantards and palinistas got smacked down.

Watch the House vote on the procedural move on health reform. If enough Dems defect from the leadership's bill, then the GOP with the hard rightwing still has some relevance. If not, then the GOP with that wing is irrelevant in American politics.

What a silly analysis.

Read for what you are actually grunting out, "The rightwing has power if and only if the liberal Dem leadership fails to keep all the other little Dimmies in line...."

The GOP sucks precisely to the extent they are indistinguishable from the tax and spend liberal/socialist/Marxist tools we call the Democratics.

 

[frazzledgear]

Since when did Whoopi Goldberg represent the American Left? I wasn't aware of such an election.

But she sure as hell is representative of the mindset of the American Left though, isn't she? Now let's imagine it was Rush Limbaugh accused of getting a 13 yr. old child drunk, giving her Quaaludes and then sodomizing her for a few hours. A show of hands whether we all believe people like Whoopi, Debra Winger and Woody Allen would be demanding HIS release from prison -or demanding his execution. ROFLMAO If they wouldn't be saying the same thing regardless of the individual involved while all other circumstances were the same -then they are a pack of sick hypocrites.

And I"m sure Polanski is especially grateful for signatures like Woody Allen - the guy who seduced the daughter of his lover and mother of his own daughter. The same guy who had his visitation rights to his daughter cut off by a judge due to his innapropriate sexualized behavior with that child.

I agree that Whoopi's comment was absolutely insane and most likely biased, because he is in the entertainment industry- I do NOT agree that her comment is biased because SHE is a liberal, and I do not agree that her comments that minimize the child's experience are at all representative of ANY majority. You are TURNING this comment into a partisan issue, which it is not. Whoopi made a bad call- on behalf of Whoopi, and nobody else.

Just because someone can voice their incorrect personal view of a crime on national television, does not make that view representative of a whole group's view, even if that person is a party member, unless that person is, say, the head of the party, and says "I speak on behalf of my party"..

Connection does not equate to correlation..

And I am a libertarian, who voted almost all the way liberal in the last presidential election, and I can tell you for a FACT that one person's distorted views of rape are not indicative of the majority of the populace's opinion as a whole. It is very illogical to say "Oh if one person says that, then the rest of them probably think that way also"- Remember that the ladies on The Voice are just a bunch of famous entertainers that sip coffee together on TV and talk about their opinions.. They are not judges, congresswomen, cabinet members, or governers.. Just a bunch of chicks who want to gab on TV. And yes- sometimes they say idiotic stuff.
What can ya do..

On what possible grounds could Whoopi have made these statements? Polanski pleaded GUILTY to this crime -not as if he ever claimed he didn't get a child drunk, give her Quaaludes and then sodomized her for hours. He admitted in court that this is what HE DID. He just fled the country before being sentenced for the crime he said he DID.

I happen to be a libertarian too. And nowhere in my political beliefs can I find any justification for downplaying this crime just because the predator fled the country before being sentenced and now a couple of decades have passed and let's all pretend that somehow that makes his crime against a CHILD just go away. Maybe you forget that Polanski admitted in court HE DID IT.

As I said, I GUARANTEE you that if Rush Limbaugh had pleaded guilty to getting a child drunk, giving her Quaaludes and then sodomizing her for hours while she was unconscious that Whoopi would NEVER have been demanding his release. She would have been demanding his execution. As if Limbaugh had just fled the country before being sentenced for the crime he already admitted in court that he did people like Whoopi would be demanding the US just ignore it all entirely. Politics don't play any role in deciding whether a person who admitted he committed this crime should be held accountable for it even years later. But it sure does for people like Whoopi -who only formed her opinion based on WHO admitted he committed this crime.

And by the way -a libertarian would NEVER have voted all liberal. Totally opposite political ideologies. No libertarian would have voted all liberal because a liberal favors a fascist state that forces people to do what those in power want and have decided is in every individual's best interests - a libertarian believes in a government that never has the power to do any such thing and believe government is not a superior judge of what is in their best interests over their own judgment. Opposite ends of the political spectrum. But libertarians never believe those who have admitted their guilt in the commission of a crime against another human being should not be held accountable for their crime just because they fled the country before being sentenced. Even libertarians believe in justice and not the ability of a wealthy person to flee the country in order to avoid it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Liability is so lost in his hate American politics conspiracy that the can't see the forest because of the trees. Everything I said was correct, and L just bounced off a tree.

 

[Varth Dader]

...
The GOP sucks precisely to the extent they are indistinguishable from the tax and spend liberal/socialist/Marxist tools we call the Democratics.

If you can't tell the difference between the GOP and the "Democratics" [sic], you need to look at the recent vote on health care to see that there is clearly a difference.