healthmyths
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It was not two statements that Obama said, so Politifact is looking at this from what it looks like he said in writing, but if you watch the video of Obama's statement, IT WAS ONE STATEMENT, with a pause of GRIEF in between before he was able to continue with his ONE statement.Do any of the Countries on your UNSOURCED CHART have mass shootings MORE than the USA?Somebody else does it so its okay that the US does it.
Is that the best you can do?
Oh well, at least the US is in the top 6 of SOMETHING!
THE POINT that went WAY WAY OVER your little dim brain.....
The president continued, suggesting that the country has to act to prevent gun violence.
"Now is the time for mourning and for healing, but let's be clear at some point, we as a country, we have to reckon with the fact
that this mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries,"
Obama said. "It doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. It is in our power to do something about it."
WANT the chart again to see what f...king LYING idiot this president???
"It doesn't happen in other places????? What f...k is Norway, Finland,etc....
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Are they more frequent in this unsourced chart of yours, that is INCOMPLETE and does not show aything that disputes what Obama said?
Maybe you need to take a reading comprehension course?
Are there any countries on this UNSOURCED chart and INCOMPLETE CHART and cherry picked chart from 2009 thru 2013 and NOT THRU 2015, or for 20 years to see a trend...have MORE Mass Murder shootings in the 5 year time period than the USA?
HUH?
Is their ANY country on your limited, unsourced, and incomplete chart that has mass murder shootings more frequently than the USA....
The answer is NO.
Obama was CORRECT, in what he said... it may not be what you want to compare...but he made no mention of comparing mass murders per person living here or mass murder shootings per person living in these other advanced countries...he mentioned a comparison of FREQUENCY.
Even if you do use your, unsourced, cherry picked on years, and incomplete chart...the President was correct that no other advanced Country has mass murder shootings with the same frequency as the USA....
and BTW, there is already a thread on this with the same chart....this thread is a duplicate thread.
On balance, we rate (Obama's Claim) Mostly False.
OK you believe politifact.org right??? A totally left wing group OWNED by the Poynter Institute that owns the St. Petes Times!
Is Barack Obama correct that mass killings don t happen in other countries PolitiFact
An important point to make right off the bat is that many of the critics have pointed to the first part of Obama’s claim --
that "this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."
As we’ll explain, the critics have a point here -- mass violence, including mass shootings, happen in a wide variety of countries.
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Still, using this data, it’s easy to dispense with the first claim Obama made -- that "this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries."
Our ruling
Obama said after the church shootings in Charleston that "this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency."
The data shows that it clearly happens in other countries, and in at least three of them, there’s evidence that the rate of killings in mass-shooting events occurred at a higher per-capita rate than in the United States between 2000 and 2014. The only partial support for Obama’s claim is that the per-capita gun-incident fatality rate in the United States does rank in the top one-third of the list of 11 countries studied.
On balance, we rate the claim Mostly False.
the Statement
"Now is the time for mourning and for healing, but let's be clear at some point, we as a country, we have to reckon with the fact that this mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries, it doesn't happen in other places with this kind of frequency. It is in our power to do something about it."
The ONLY thing Obama was saying, was that Mass Murder Shootings do not happen in other countries as often as it happens here....
He made NO MENTION of PER PERSON living here, compared to per person living in these advanced Countries....he only mentioned the frequency of these occurrences in the USA compared to the frequency in other advanced countries....
In others words, he was comparing how OFTEN they happen here, compared to how OFTEN they happen in these advanced countries....
But it sure the heck got all of your right wing panties in a rut, didn't it?Me thinks it was intentional on his part to word it the way he did....
NO! He advocates more gun control laws which is so f...king stupid!
We have thousands of Federal,state and local laws on the books now regarding gun control... what will one more do??
It is something people like you constantly think is necessary when the simple solution is EDUCATION!
There were over 1500 bills introduced in the 2013 legislative session, over 100 of which were enacted into law. For more information on this unprecedented activity, click on the map below to find out about the laws that were enacted in each state last year.
Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence Gun Law Information Experts
Why not educate people rather then pass more ineffective laws???