Where are the jobs, Mr. President?

[Papageorgio]

Do the words "powerless members of the MINORITY Party" mean anything to you?

Nope. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd DESTROYED FANNIE and FREDIE and by rights, should be in prison. Are they? No. Minority party my ass.

I love it! Two members of the minority Party are more powerful than president Bush and the Party that controls both houses of Congress and the WH.

That's what liberals are telling us is happening today, in fact it is just the 40-50 members of the House that controls everything.

 

[P@triot]

Do the words "powerless members of the MINORITY Party" mean anything to you?

Nope. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd DESTROYED FANNIE and FREDIE and by rights, should be in prison. Are they? No. Minority party my ass.

I love it! Two members of the minority Party are more powerful than president Bush and the Party that controls both houses of Congress and the WH.

'Ole Ed here has never heard of the Dodd/Frank "Finance Reform" bill...

 

[Wacky Quacky]

The jobs are here. We just need to get people to do them. The US is facing a shortage of skilled labor like electricians, welders, and plumbers. Businesses are talking about importing workers just to do them.

Less focus on college, more focus on jobs that will pay the bills.

 

[Geaux4it]

The jobs are here. We just need to get people to do them. The US is facing a shortage of skilled labor like electricians, welders, and plumbers. Businesses are talking about importing workers just to do them.

Less focus on college, more focus on jobs that will pay the bills.

No thanks... If I went to work Obama would think less of me.

-Geaux

 

[edthecynic]

Nope. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd DESTROYED FANNIE and FREDIE and by rights, should be in prison. Are they? No. Minority party my ass.

I love it! Two members of the minority Party are more powerful than president Bush and the Party that controls both houses of Congress and the WH.

'Ole Ed here has never heard of the Dodd/Frank "Finance Reform" bill...

Yeah, the bill HR1461 that PASSED in the GOP controlled House over Frank's objections that the GOP Senate majority leader never brought up for a vote but sent it to committee to die. Finance reform, Pelosi's HR3221 only passed both houses and was signed into law when the Dems took over in 2007.

Bush owns the housing crash.

 

[edthecynic]

Nope. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd DESTROYED FANNIE and FREDIE and by rights, should be in prison. Are they? No. Minority party my ass.

I love it! Two members of the minority Party are more powerful than president Bush and the Party that controls both houses of Congress and the WH.

That's what liberals are telling us is happening today, in fact it is just the 40-50 members of the House that controls everything.

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

 

[Politico]

Why did the economy crash in 2007?

Because a bunch of retards bought shit they couldn't afford.

And why were they able to buy shit they couldn't afford? Because the Dumbocrats forced banks to make home loans to people who previously didn't qualify (because Dumbocrats think socialism is so great).

All they do is collapse everything they touch and they still haven't figured out what a failed concept socialism is.

Yeah they made all those idiots sing on the dotted line.

 

[Geaux4it]

I love it! Two members of the minority Party are more powerful than president Bush and the Party that controls both houses of Congress and the WH.

That's what liberals are telling us is happening today, in fact it is just the 40-50 members of the House that controls everything.

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

Because dangerous, radical leftist agenda must be stopped at all cost.

-Geaux

 

[edthecynic]

That's what liberals are telling us is happening today, in fact it is just the 40-50 members of the House that controls everything.

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

Because dangerous, radical leftist agenda must be stopped at all cost.

-Geaux

To the wicked, everything serves as pretext.
Voltaire

 

[P@triot]

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

Because dangerous, radical leftist agenda must be stopped at all cost.

-Geaux

To the wicked, everything serves as pretext.
Voltaire

We're $17 trillion in debt chief. The Dumbocrats have already bankrupted and collapsed Detroit. Republicans are trying to stop liberals from doing the same thing to the U.S.

Using quotes from historical figures which simply do not apply to the situation because you're incapable of an intelligent response to defend the failure of the party you support is not helping. People like your are the problem: close your eyes to the facts to defend the ideology at all costs.

Sorry chief, your ideology has been unequivocally proven to be a failed ideology. But I guess the allure of the government gravy train is too much for you, uh?

 

[P@triot]

I love it! Two members of the minority Party are more powerful than president Bush and the Party that controls both houses of Congress and the WH.

That's what liberals are telling us is happening today, in fact it is just the 40-50 members of the House that controls everything.

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

Barack Obama has received 100% of what he has asked for. 100%. He wanted healthcare, he got it. He wanted stimulus (three rounds), he got it. He wanted "finance reform" (ie communist control), he got it. He wanted amnesty, he illegally bypassed Congress and stole it.

There is not ONE thing Barack Obama wanted that he did not get - either from his Dumbocrat super-majority in Congress or by illegally using "executive order". And all we have to show for Barack Obama's "plan" to "fix" the U.S. is $17 trillion in debt, record unemployment, lower salaries, lower home values, less savings, higher taxes, and (as usual with Dumbocrats) - more failure.

You people implement Fidel Castro's Cuban policies and expect different results because you're ignorant, blind, and immature idealistic children who are too lazy to pitch in and help.

 

[Iceweasel]

The jobs are here. We just need to get people to do them. The US is facing a shortage of skilled labor like electricians, welders, and plumbers. Businesses are talking about importing workers just to do them.

Less focus on college, more focus on jobs that will pay the bills.

I agree with that except with college, unless you mean a trade school. The young folks today are big on electronics but have little to no craftsmanship skills. When the old farts retire and die off this country will be in a world of hurt.

 

[zeke]

That's what liberals are telling us is happening today, in fact it is just the 40-50 members of the House that controls everything.

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

Barack Obama has received 100% of what he has asked for. 100%. He wanted healthcare, he got it. He wanted stimulus (three rounds), he got it. He wanted "finance reform" (ie communist control), he got it. He wanted amnesty, he illegally bypassed Congress and stole it.

There is not ONE thing Barack Obama wanted that he did not get - either from his Dumbocrat super-majority in Congress or by illegally using "executive order". And all we have to show for Barack Obama's "plan" to "fix" the U.S. is $17 trillion in debt, record unemployment, lower salaries, lower home values, less savings, higher taxes, and (as usual with Dumbocrats) - more failure.

You people implement Fidel Castro's Cuban policies and expect different results because you're ignorant, blind, and immature idealistic children who are too lazy to pitch in and help.

You are a fucking idiot dog.

Obama asked for help, good ideas and co operation from the Republicans in the House and Senate.

He got none of that.

And you claim he got everything he wanted.

Fucking stupid dog. What Obama got was whatever he could in the face of unparalleled obstruction from the right wingers.

And you are fine with that. OK. But don't be claiming he got everything he wanted. That is a bullshit statement.

 

[P@triot]

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

Barack Obama has received 100% of what he has asked for. 100%. He wanted healthcare, he got it. He wanted stimulus (three rounds), he got it. He wanted "finance reform" (ie communist control), he got it. He wanted amnesty, he illegally bypassed Congress and stole it.

There is not ONE thing Barack Obama wanted that he did not get - either from his Dumbocrat super-majority in Congress or by illegally using "executive order". And all we have to show for Barack Obama's "plan" to "fix" the U.S. is $17 trillion in debt, record unemployment, lower salaries, lower home values, less savings, higher taxes, and (as usual with Dumbocrats) - more failure.

You people implement Fidel Castro's Cuban policies and expect different results because you're ignorant, blind, and immature idealistic children who are too lazy to pitch in and help.

You are a fucking idiot dog.

Obama asked for help, good ideas and co operation from the Republicans in the House and Senate.

He got none of that.

And you claim he got everything he wanted.

Fucking stupid dog. What Obama got was whatever he could in the face of unparalleled obstruction from the right wingers.

And you are fine with that. OK. But don't be claiming he got everything he wanted. That is a bullshit statement.

Wow [MENTION=35352]zeke[/MENTION]! Someone has some serious anger management issues to work out, uh?

Well, because you are always unaware of facts, please allow me to enlighten you (and who knows, actually being aware of what happened might help with that anger issue you have):

First of all, when Obama was inaugurated he had a Dumbocrats super-majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Until 2011, he had a Dumbocrat majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Therefore, it was literally impossible for Repbublicans to "obstruct" anything.

Obama asked for the first stimulus spending and he got The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (2009). When that failed, he asked for a second round of stimulus and got The Omnibus Trade Act (2010).

Then he asked for finance reform, he got:

The Dodd-Frank WallStreet Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2011)
The Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act (2011)
The Homebuyer Assistance and Improvement Act (2011)
A bunch more that I don't even have time to add.

Then he asked for healthcare "reform", and got The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (2010).

Every part of his "plan" has been passed and implemented and has been a spectacular failure. He promised if we passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (2009) that unemployment would NOT reach 8%. Instead, it climbed to 10% after passing it and has never been below 8%.

In the two years since Obamacare passed, healthcare costs have gone UP despite his promises that it would make costs go down.

We used to all have free checking, but since passing the The Dodd-Frank WallStreet Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2011), banks are now charging yearly fees for checking accounts. Of course, the sad irony of this is that Obama said he was helping "the little guy". Well, the wealthy can afford checking fees. It's the "little guy" living paycheck to paycheck that can't afford those extra fees. Obama has done nothing but crush the middle and lower class with awful marxist economic policies.

These are the facts and they are indisputable zeke. Welcome to reality - join us here, won't you?

 

[edthecynic]

Barack Obama has received 100% of what he has asked for. 100%. He wanted healthcare, he got it. He wanted stimulus (three rounds), he got it. He wanted "finance reform" (ie communist control), he got it. He wanted amnesty, he illegally bypassed Congress and stole it.

There is not ONE thing Barack Obama wanted that he did not get - either from his Dumbocrat super-majority in Congress or by illegally using "executive order". And all we have to show for Barack Obama's "plan" to "fix" the U.S. is $17 trillion in debt, record unemployment, lower salaries, lower home values, less savings, higher taxes, and (as usual with Dumbocrats) - more failure.

You people implement Fidel Castro's Cuban policies and expect different results because you're ignorant, blind, and immature idealistic children who are too lazy to pitch in and help.

You are a fucking idiot dog.

Obama asked for help, good ideas and co operation from the Republicans in the House and Senate.

He got none of that.

And you claim he got everything he wanted.

Fucking stupid dog. What Obama got was whatever he could in the face of unparalleled obstruction from the right wingers.

And you are fine with that. OK. But don't be claiming he got everything he wanted. That is a bullshit statement.

Wow @zeke ! Someone has some serious anger management issues to work out, uh?

Well, because you are always unaware of facts, please allow me to enlighten you (and who knows, actually being aware of what happened might help with that anger issue you have):

First of all, when Obama was inaugurated he had a Dumbocrats super-majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Until 2011, he had a Dumbocrat majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Therefore, it was literally impossible for Repbublicans to "obstruct" anything.

Why is it always the lowest of the low-information voters who think they can "enlighten" those who know the facts.

If you recall, when Obama was inagurated Spector had not switched Parties yet and was still a Republican and the GOP were challenging Frankin's victory, blocking his appointment and so he was not sworn in yet, thus no GOP filibuster proof super-majority. Spector switched April 2009 and Frankin was sworn in on July 8, 2009 giving the Dems a super-majority for the first time which lasted less than 2 months when Kennedy died on August 25, 2009. Kennedy's seat remained empty until September 24, 2009 when Kirk was appointed to take his place until the special election. GOP Scott Brown won and was sworn in Feb 4, 2010 permanently ending the Democratic super-majority.

The Dems had a GOP filibuster proof super-majority for just under 6 months.

 

[Meister]

You are a fucking idiot dog.

Obama asked for help, good ideas and co operation from the Republicans in the House and Senate.

He got none of that.

And you claim he got everything he wanted.

Fucking stupid dog. What Obama got was whatever he could in the face of unparalleled obstruction from the right wingers.

And you are fine with that. OK. But don't be claiming he got everything he wanted. That is a bullshit statement.

Wow @zeke ! Someone has some serious anger management issues to work out, uh?

Well, because you are always unaware of facts, please allow me to enlighten you (and who knows, actually being aware of what happened might help with that anger issue you have):

First of all, when Obama was inaugurated he had a Dumbocrats super-majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Until 2011, he had a Dumbocrat majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Therefore, it was literally impossible for Repbublicans to "obstruct" anything.

Why is it always the lowest of the low-information voters who think they can "enlighten" those who know the facts.

If you recall, when Obama was inagurated Spector had not switched Parties yet and was still a Republican and the GOP were challenging Frankin's victory, blocking his appointment and so he was not sworn in yet, thus no GOP filibuster proof super-majority. Spector switched April 2009 and Frankin was sworn in on July 8, 2009 giving the Dems a super-majority for the first time which lasted less than 2 months when Kennedy died on August 25, 2009. Kennedy's seat remained empty until September 24, 2009 when Kirk was appointed to take his place until the special election. GOP Scott Brown won and was sworn in Feb 4, 2010 permanently ending the Democratic super-majority.

The Dems had a GOP filibuster proof super-majority for just under 6 months.

Why not respond to the crux of his post?

 

[edthecynic]

Wow @zeke ! Someone has some serious anger management issues to work out, uh?

Well, because you are always unaware of facts, please allow me to enlighten you (and who knows, actually being aware of what happened might help with that anger issue you have):

First of all, when Obama was inaugurated he had a Dumbocrats super-majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Until 2011, he had a Dumbocrat majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Therefore, it was literally impossible for Repbublicans to "obstruct" anything.

Why is it always the lowest of the low-information voters who think they can "enlighten" those who know the facts.

If you recall, when Obama was inagurated Spector had not switched Parties yet and was still a Republican and the GOP were challenging Frankin's victory, blocking his appointment and so he was not sworn in yet, thus no GOP filibuster proof super-majority. Spector switched April 2009 and Frankin was sworn in on July 8, 2009 giving the Dems a super-majority for the first time which lasted less than 2 months when Kennedy died on August 25, 2009. Kennedy's seat remained empty until September 24, 2009 when Kirk was appointed to take his place until the special election. GOP Scott Brown won and was sworn in Feb 4, 2010 permanently ending the Democratic super-majority.

The Dems had a GOP filibuster proof super-majority for just under 6 months.

Why not respond to the crux of his post?

No reason to go farther than that obvious whopper, the poster already discredited himself. The Right tries to bury us in an avalanche of lies and demands that we waste time debunking each and every one, only to launch a new load of shit.

The stimulus was not a failure, the The Omnibus Trade Act of 2010 was not a stimulus bill, The ARRA was delayed by the GOP until UE was already over 8% and the UE rate is 6.7% now.
How many more lies do I need to debunk before you stop defending a liar?

 

[P@triot]

You are a fucking idiot dog.

Obama asked for help, good ideas and co operation from the Republicans in the House and Senate.

He got none of that.

And you claim he got everything he wanted.

Fucking stupid dog. What Obama got was whatever he could in the face of unparalleled obstruction from the right wingers.

And you are fine with that. OK. But don't be claiming he got everything he wanted. That is a bullshit statement.

Wow @zeke ! Someone has some serious anger management issues to work out, uh?

Well, because you are always unaware of facts, please allow me to enlighten you (and who knows, actually being aware of what happened might help with that anger issue you have):

First of all, when Obama was inaugurated he had a Dumbocrats super-majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Until 2011, he had a Dumbocrat majority in Congress (House and Senate chambers). Therefore, it was literally impossible for Repbublicans to "obstruct" anything.

Why is it always the lowest of the low-information voters who think they can "enlighten" those who know the facts.

If you recall, when Obama was inagurated Spector had not switched Parties yet and was still a Republican and the GOP were challenging Frankin's victory, blocking his appointment and so he was not sworn in yet, thus no GOP filibuster proof super-majority. Spector switched April 2009 and Frankin was sworn in on July 8, 2009 giving the Dems a super-majority for the first time which lasted less than 2 months when Kennedy died on August 25, 2009. Kennedy's seat remained empty until September 24, 2009 when Kirk was appointed to take his place until the special election. GOP Scott Brown won and was sworn in Feb 4, 2010 permanently ending the Democratic super-majority.

The Dems had a GOP filibuster proof super-majority for just under 6 months.

Hey chief - a filibuster is a temporary hold up of a bill (unless you think that a man can talk for 4 years without sleep, food, or bathroom breaks. You don't need a "super-majority" to get your legislation. You simply need a majority. And Obama had it (or are you going to dispute that as well)?

Democrats owned the House, the Senate, and the White House. Barack Obama recieved 100% of what he asked for. The fact that you're actually trying to argue something so indisputable as opposed to arguing the results of his policy just proves that even your dumb ass knows that the policies of the Obama regime and his Dumbocrat puppets have been catastrophic failures.

Tell me, which bill did I cite above was fabricated by me and/or "fillibustered" by Republicans preventing it from being passed? Come Ed - which one? Obama got EVERYTHING he asked for and you fucking know it. Sadly, you're just too immature to admit it.

• The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (2009)
  
  
• The Omnibus Trade Act (2010)
  
  
• The Dodd-Frank WallStreet Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2011)
  
  
• The Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act (2011)
  
  
• The Homebuyer Assistance and Improvement Act (2011)
  
  
• The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (2010)

 

[RandallFlagg]

It is the GOP MAJORITY in the HOUSE and enough GOP Senators to prevent cloture that block everything.

Because dangerous, radical leftist agenda must be stopped at all cost.

-Geaux

To the wicked, everything serves as pretext.
Voltaire

OK...I'll play along.


"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it" - George Santayana


Keep that in mind before you continue.

 

[P@triot]

Why is it always the lowest of the low-information voters who think they can "enlighten" those who know the facts.

If you recall, when Obama was inagurated Spector had not switched Parties yet and was still a Republican and the GOP were challenging Frankin's victory, blocking his appointment and so he was not sworn in yet, thus no GOP filibuster proof super-majority. Spector switched April 2009 and Frankin was sworn in on July 8, 2009 giving the Dems a super-majority for the first time which lasted less than 2 months when Kennedy died on August 25, 2009. Kennedy's seat remained empty until September 24, 2009 when Kirk was appointed to take his place until the special election. GOP Scott Brown won and was sworn in Feb 4, 2010 permanently ending the Democratic super-majority.

The Dems had a GOP filibuster proof super-majority for just under 6 months.

Why not respond to the crux of his post?

No reason to go farther than that obvious whopper, the poster already discredited himself. The Right tries to bury us in an avalanche of lies and demands that we waste time debunking each and every one, only to launch a new load of shit.

The stimulus was not a failure, the The Omnibus Trade Act of 2010 was not a stimulus bill, The ARRA was delayed by the GOP until UE was already over 8% and the UE rate is 6.7% now.
How many more lies do I need to debunk before you stop defending a liar?

The stimulus was "not" a failure? Bwahahahaha!!!! Obama promised that unemployment would not hit 8% if we passed it. Instead it went over 10%. Only a Dumbocrat could claim that is "not" failing.

You are qualified to discuss "whoppers" and "lies" because you are the undisputed king of them son. After all, you're trying to claim that Obama didn't have two years where the Republicans couldn't block anything because you think a "filibuster" means permanently blocking legislation...

Furthermore, the Omnibus bill (which you never even heard of before today because your a blind partisan hack lap-dog of the cause) was a stimulus bill junior.