Where was the armed security guard at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High?

[JGalt]

And you would trust teachers over the armed police presence on campus during a shooting?

Don't get me wrong. I think the error the deputy made is tantamount to cowardice. But if trained law enforcement can be ineffective in a shooting, what chance would you give Mrs. Hudson and her Fourth Grade class has? She's scared and dealing with two dozen scared ten year olds. Meanwhile she's packing a snub nose .38 and the guy with the AR is standing at the classroom door.

What cinematic situation does the gun lovers expect to happen?

Right. Better to just lie down and die like a coward with no dignity.

Wrong. Better is not having the guy with the AR standing at the classroom door.

And here we are, back at trying to control the criminally insane with laws. *sigh* Murdering people is "banned" yet it happens every day. You have to face the facts that there are certain people who are going to ignore laws and do whatever the fuck they want to do.

A proper hanging might would stop them.

Countries with strong gun control don't have this problem.

You mean "other countries" like Chicago or Baltimore? They get at least 17 people shot every day.

 

[ChrisL]

Yup, that has turned into an absolute disaster. It seems like since gun control laws have been introduced, things have gotten worse. Maybe criminals/murderers feel emboldened, thinking people are defenseless against them? Ya think?

Actually things have been much worse as gun control has gotten more lax. Have you noticed each and every mass shooting is the new worst mass shooting? Violent crime is up. Our police are being shot and killed regularly. These things don't happen when there is strong gun control.

This guy was trying to convince me that I should be able to fight off a full grown adult male with a weapon using karate. Lol!

 

[Marion Morrison]

And you would trust teachers over the armed police presence on campus during a shooting?

Don't get me wrong. I think the error the deputy made is tantamount to cowardice. But if trained law enforcement can be ineffective in a shooting, what chance would you give Mrs. Hudson and her Fourth Grade class has? She's scared and dealing with two dozen scared ten year olds. Meanwhile she's packing a snub nose .38 and the guy with the AR is standing at the classroom door.

What cinematic situation does the gun lovers expect to happen?

Right. Better to just lie down and die like a coward with no dignity.

Wrong. Better is not having the guy with the AR standing at the classroom door.

And here we are, back at trying to control the criminally insane with laws. *sigh* Murdering people is "banned" yet it happens every day. You have to face the facts that there are certain people who are going to ignore laws and do whatever the fuck they want to do.

Are Americans crazier than any other citizenry around the developed world? I don't think so. But if we are not that much crazier, why do we suffer from so many mass shootings?

Could it be that, while we enjoy a level of crazy in line with other nations, we are also awash with guns?

At the root of it, what puts the ',ass' in 'mass shooting' is the rate of fire of the weapon of choice. Could there be some way to limit such weapons? Surely your right to self defense will not be compromised. You advocate schools defend themselves with less lethal weapons.

We mix crazy with lots of guns. Other countries have the sense to have gun control. And they don't suffer from regular mass shootings and have much lower homicide rates.

What other countries, faggot? You're talking straight outta your ass, and I know it.

Post links or STFU.

 

[Brain357]

Being a small and petite woman, a gun is definitely leverage or an equalizer in my eyes.

And you could defend yourself fine with a 6 shot revolver You don't need a weapon for mass killing.

Weren't you the one who was telling me once that I could defend myself with karate?

Not that I recall. How many times is it you have had to defend yourself? I know a lot of people and very few who are ever attacked in any way. Your real friend is common sense. That is everyone's best defense.

 

[ChrisL]

Being a small and petite woman, a gun is definitely leverage or an equalizer in my eyes.

And you could defend yourself fine with a 6 shot revolver You don't need a weapon for mass killing.

Weren't you the one who was telling me once that I could defend myself with karate?

Not that I recall. How many times is it you have had to defend yourself? I know a lot of people and very few who are ever attacked in any way. Your real friend is common sense. That is everyone's best defense.

Yes you did. Lol. I do recall.

 

[Marion Morrison]

We have a bunch of dead kids and some people are worried about the freedom to own guns for mass killing. So very sad.

There were 3.3 million AR-15s owned by other people in the US on the day Cruz shot those students. As far as I know, none of them shot anyone.

In other words, your odds of getting shot that day by someone with an AR-15 were 3,300,000/1

The sure didn't help those kids now did it?

You didn't either.

 

[ChrisL]

Anyhow, yes, I would want a gun to defend myself. I don't care if some of you are afraid of guns, people, boogeymen, devils, or whatever it is you fear. That has absolutely nothing to do with me. This shooting or any other shooting begins and ends with the person who CHOSE to pull the trigger.

 

[Brain357]

Right. Better to just lie down and die like a coward with no dignity.

Wrong. Better is not having the guy with the AR standing at the classroom door.

And here we are, back at trying to control the criminally insane with laws. *sigh* Murdering people is "banned" yet it happens every day. You have to face the facts that there are certain people who are going to ignore laws and do whatever the fuck they want to do.

Are Americans crazier than any other citizenry around the developed world? I don't think so. But if we are not that much crazier, why do we suffer from so many mass shootings?

Could it be that, while we enjoy a level of crazy in line with other nations, we are also awash with guns?

At the root of it, what puts the ',ass' in 'mass shooting' is the rate of fire of the weapon of choice. Could there be some way to limit such weapons? Surely your right to self defense will not be compromised. You advocate schools defend themselves with less lethal weapons.

We mix crazy with lots of guns. Other countries have the sense to have gun control. And they don't suffer from regular mass shootings and have much lower homicide rates.

What other countries, faggot? You're talking straight outta your ass, and I know it.

Post links or STFU.

UK, Germany, Japan, Denmark, Australia, France.... There are many. And when was their last mass shooting? Do you seriously not know this?

 

[Brain357]

We have a bunch of dead kids and some people are worried about the freedom to own guns for mass killing. So very sad.

There were 3.3 million AR-15s owned by other people in the US on the day Cruz shot those students. As far as I know, none of them shot anyone.

In other words, your odds of getting shot that day by someone with an AR-15 were 3,300,000/1

The sure didn't help those kids now did it?

You didn't either.

But if he had not been able to buy that gun it would have helped a lot.

 

[JGalt]

We have a bunch of dead kids and some people are worried about the freedom to own guns for mass killing. So very sad.

There were 3.3 million AR-15s owned by other people in the US on the day Cruz shot those students. As far as I know, none of them shot anyone.

In other words, your odds of getting shot that day by someone with an AR-15 were 3,300,000/1

The sure didn't help those kids now did it?

Wrong place at the wrong time. It could happen to anyone: A plane falling out of the sky, a meteor, a terrorist attack, a fire, anything. You can't curl up in a ball and completely isolate yourself against the worst things that can happen in this world, otherwise it'll eat you up inside. It's better to be prepared as best you can, and at least try to survive.

 

[JGalt]

We have a bunch of dead kids and some people are worried about the freedom to own guns for mass killing. So very sad.

There were 3.3 million AR-15s owned by other people in the US on the day Cruz shot those students. As far as I know, none of them shot anyone.

In other words, your odds of getting shot that day by someone with an AR-15 were 3,300,000/1

The sure didn't help those kids now did it?

You didn't either.

But if he had not been able to buy that gun it would have helped a lot.

Who's fault was it that he wasn't disqualified from purchasing the rifle?

Why should we punish everyone else for the actions of one person? Last I checked, this isn't a socialist country. So we're not required to "share the pain."

 

[Brain357]

We have a bunch of dead kids and some people are worried about the freedom to own guns for mass killing. So very sad.

There were 3.3 million AR-15s owned by other people in the US on the day Cruz shot those students. As far as I know, none of them shot anyone.

In other words, your odds of getting shot that day by someone with an AR-15 were 3,300,000/1

The sure didn't help those kids now did it?

Wrong place at the wrong time. It could happen to anyone: A plane falling out of the sky, a meteor, a terrorist attack, a fire, anything. You can't curl up in a ball and completely isolate yourself against the worst things that can happen in this world, otherwise it'll eat you up inside. It's better to be prepared as best you can, and at least try to survive.

And yet so many countries don't have a mass shooting problem. Only us with so many guns. Go figure.

 

[ChrisL]

Being a small and petite woman, a gun is definitely leverage or an equalizer in my eyes.

And you could defend yourself fine with a 6 shot revolver You don't need a weapon for mass killing.

Weren't you the one who was telling me once that I could defend myself with karate?

Not that I recall. How many times is it you have had to defend yourself? I know a lot of people and very few who are ever attacked in any way. Your real friend is common sense. That is everyone's best defense.

Who cares? I have a fire extinguisher in my house too, but I've never had a fire.

 

[Brain357]

We have a bunch of dead kids and some people are worried about the freedom to own guns for mass killing. So very sad.

There were 3.3 million AR-15s owned by other people in the US on the day Cruz shot those students. As far as I know, none of them shot anyone.

In other words, your odds of getting shot that day by someone with an AR-15 were 3,300,000/1

The sure didn't help those kids now did it?

You didn't either.

But if he had not been able to buy that gun it would have helped a lot.

Who's fault was it that he wasn't disqualified from purchasing the rifle?

Well it is republicans fault that so many of these killer can buy semi-auto rifles with high capacity magazines. If those will still regulated they would be very hard to get. But Repubs decided to well arm killers.

 

[ChrisL]

My right, my decision, not your business. Go after the criminals and punish them. Leave yourself at their mercy. I don't know you. I don't really care too much.

 

[Brain357]

Being a small and petite woman, a gun is definitely leverage or an equalizer in my eyes.

And you could defend yourself fine with a 6 shot revolver You don't need a weapon for mass killing.

Weren't you the one who was telling me once that I could defend myself with karate?

Not that I recall. How many times is it you have had to defend yourself? I know a lot of people and very few who are ever attacked in any way. Your real friend is common sense. That is everyone's best defense.

Who cares? I have a fire extinguisher in my house too, but I've never had a fire.

I just asked you so I guess I care. You seem really worried about your defense while our children die. I assume you have some great need. So how many times?

 

[ChrisL]

Being a small and petite woman, a gun is definitely leverage or an equalizer in my eyes.

And you could defend yourself fine with a 6 shot revolver You don't need a weapon for mass killing.

Weren't you the one who was telling me once that I could defend myself with karate?

Not that I recall. How many times is it you have had to defend yourself? I know a lot of people and very few who are ever attacked in any way. Your real friend is common sense. That is everyone's best defense.

Who cares? I have a fire extinguisher in my house too, but I've never had a fire.

I just asked you so I guess I care. You seem really worried about your defense while our children die. I assume you have some great need. So how many times?

Like I said, it is a precautionary measure. Like health insurance and a fire extinguisher, car insurance. This is kind of like LIFE insurance.

 

[Brain357]

My right, my decision, not your business. Go after the criminals and punish them. Leave yourself at their mercy. I don't know you. I don't really care too much.

People who tend to get attacked are themselves involved in criminal activity. Those of us who are lawful are very unlikely to have problems.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Wrong place at the wrong time

Yep! In school, on a school day.....

Good god people, you have lost your minds....

 

[Brain357]

And you could defend yourself fine with a 6 shot revolver You don't need a weapon for mass killing.

Weren't you the one who was telling me once that I could defend myself with karate?

Not that I recall. How many times is it you have had to defend yourself? I know a lot of people and very few who are ever attacked in any way. Your real friend is common sense. That is everyone's best defense.

Who cares? I have a fire extinguisher in my house too, but I've never had a fire.

I just asked you so I guess I care. You seem really worried about your defense while our children die. I assume you have some great need. So how many times?

Like I said, it is a precautionary measure. Like health insurance and a fire extinguisher, car insurance. This is kind of like LIFE insurance.

You didn't answer the question, again.

 

[ChrisL]

Weren't you the one who was telling me once that I could defend myself with karate?

Not that I recall. How many times is it you have had to defend yourself? I know a lot of people and very few who are ever attacked in any way. Your real friend is common sense. That is everyone's best defense.

Who cares? I have a fire extinguisher in my house too, but I've never had a fire.

I just asked you so I guess I care. You seem really worried about your defense while our children die. I assume you have some great need. So how many times?

Like I said, it is a precautionary measure. Like health insurance and a fire extinguisher, car insurance. This is kind of like LIFE insurance.

You didn't answer the question, again.

Don't care. That is all you need to know.