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I'll give up Social Security after the fucking government give me back the money they forcefully took from me for 30 years and return the money they forcefully took from my employer, with interest.
However, I will agree to give up all future claims to Social Security if they would stop the program so that my children and grandchildren will not have to be burdened with it.
People with jobs pay into social security and Medicare.
Why shouldn’t they get their money back?
In 2016, Congressional pay was $174,000 per year, which, at an 80% rate, equates to a lifelong pension benefit of $139,200. All benefits are taxpayer-funded. Additionally, members of Congress enjoy the same Thrift Savings Plan (TSP) as all other federal employees, which is similar to a 401(k).Feb 5, 2018
It’s blood money, tainted by the Government; I don’t want anything to do with it.
Republicans they complain if someone is poor, and also complain about government helping them not be poor & about businesses helping them not be poor by paying them more?
Government has never helped anybody "not be poor." Government gives them enough to live on, however having enough to live on does not mean one is no longer poor.
Republicans believe that government should not force industry to pay people more than their labor is worth. If one wants their labor to be worth more, it's up to them to make that happen--not government nor industry.
Republicans are the first to complain about flop houses & homeless in shabby clothes.
Then they complain about bosses paying them too much.
Then they complain about government helping them.
It makes Republicans come off as cruel, thoughtless & Heartless.
Social security and Medicare are two very successful programs instituted by two of most hated Democratic presidents of all time.
So naturally, the republicans would love nothing more than eliminate them.
But since they are so fucking lame at doing anything other than giving tax cuts to the billionaires, they’ll never come up with replacements.
That's the problem. I call this the Ray from Cleveland's Raccoon Theory.
You see a raccoon digging through your garbage can. So you go inside the house and fetch that half a ham you were going to throw out at the end of the week anyway. The animal eats in delight. Now give it a couple of seconds and try to take that ham away and see what happens.
My raccoon theory is not something new. Politicians knew of this theory all along--especially on the left.
Once you give people something, they automatically claim it as their own. Like the raccoon, it's virtually impossible to take it away--unless you want to get your hand chewed up.
And this is why when Republicans are in power, they cannot take social goodies away. It's also the reason we need to stop creating more social programs.
Social security and Medicare are two very successful programs instituted by two of most hated Democratic presidents of all time.
So naturally, the republicans would love nothing more than eliminate them.
But since they are so fucking lame at doing anything other than giving tax cuts to the billionaires, they’ll never come up with replacements.
That's the problem. I call this the Ray from Cleveland's Raccoon Theory.
You see a raccoon digging through your garbage can. So you go inside the house and fetch that half a ham you were going to throw out at the end of the week anyway. The animal eats in delight. Now give it a couple of seconds and try to take that ham away and see what happens.
My raccoon theory is not something new. Politicians knew of this theory all along--especially on the left.
Once you give people something, they automatically claim it as their own. Like the raccoon, it's virtually impossible to take it away--unless you want to get your hand chewed up.
And this is why when Republicans are in power, they cannot take social goodies away. It's also the reason we need to stop creating more social programs.
Only thing is that these are not Racoons but rather people we're helping.
Beyond helping people these social programs seem to help tbe economy.
Probably by freeing up money from rich horders & putting it into the hands of people who'd hardly be consumers & make them better consumers.
Face the facts the 3 biggest economic growth in the 20th century USA were FDR, Harding & LBJ each implemented social programs.
It's MY $$$, that i fuckin' earned, and allowed them to plunder
Obama's stimulis package was BS & Trump's tax cuts were BS.
Both added on a ton of debt & did nothing to help the real wages grow much.
Wages in the US grew at their fastest pace for nine years last month, the latest official figures show.
The US Labor Department said wages grew at an annual rate of 3.1% in October, accelerating from a rate of 2.8% the month before.
The economy also added 250,000 jobs last month, beating expectations, while the jobless rate remained at 3.7%.
US wage growth hits nine-year high
Inflation is going up quicker than wages are, opps.
Inflation hurts our oldest members the most.
Thats why Social security & medicare are so important
war $$$Face the facts the 3 biggest economic growth in the 20th century USA were FDR, Harding & LBJ each implemented social programs
So what's your 'fix' Ray?
Social security and Medicare are two very successful programs instituted by two of most hated Democratic presidents of all time.
So naturally, the republicans would love nothing more than eliminate them.
But since they are so fucking lame at doing anything other than giving tax cuts to the billionaires, they’ll never come up with replacements.
That's the problem. I call this the Ray from Cleveland's Raccoon Theory.
You see a raccoon digging through your garbage can. So you go inside the house and fetch that half a ham you were going to throw out at the end of the week anyway. The animal eats in delight. Now give it a couple of seconds and try to take that ham away and see what happens.
My raccoon theory is not something new. Politicians knew of this theory all along--especially on the left.
Once you give people something, they automatically claim it as their own. Like the raccoon, it's virtually impossible to take it away--unless you want to get your hand chewed up.
And this is why when Republicans are in power, they cannot take social goodies away. It's also the reason we need to stop creating more social programs.
Only thing is that these are not Racoons but rather people we're helping.
Beyond helping people these social programs seem to help tbe economy.
Probably by freeing up money from rich horders & putting it into the hands of people who'd hardly be consumers & make them better consumers.
Face the facts the 3 biggest economic growth in the 20th century USA were FDR, Harding & LBJ each implemented social programs.
I can't stand these leftists who think consumption is the be all and end all, and yet believe that they are saving the environment by slinging pro environmentalist slogans. Consumption is not a virtue you moron. Of course it would be one thing if they worked and then enjoyed the fruits, but of course they drain the goods from others.
Worst people ever. Explains to the T how such a child cannibalizing program is allowed to exist.
Social Security and Medicare are some of the best programs ever provided by the US Government.
Republicans they complain if someone is poor, and also complain about government helping them not be poor & about businesses helping them not be poor by paying them more?
Government has never helped anybody "not be poor." Government gives them enough to live on, however having enough to live on does not mean one is no longer poor.
Republicans believe that government should not force industry to pay people more than their labor is worth. If one wants their labor to be worth more, it's up to them to make that happen--not government nor industry.
Republicans are the first to complain about flop houses & homeless in shabby clothes.
Then they complain about bosses paying them too much.
Then they complain about government helping them.
It makes Republicans come off as cruel, thoughtless & Heartless.
Is it cruel, thoughtless and heartless to deny your child endless amounts of candy or cookies?
Sometimes the best thing you can do for a person is to not help them. That forces them to help themselves. It may seem cruel and heartless, but in the long run, it's better for them because it forces them to try harder.
Which horse runs faster, the one you feed carrots to all day or the one you dangle the carrot in front of to make him run?
No, he is challenging the premise.
The PREMISE..is that for all the attacks these creeps make on our shared healthcare and retirement...none of them turn it down
Obama's stimulis package was BS & Trump's tax cuts were BS.
Both added on a ton of debt & did nothing to help the real wages grow much.
Wages in the US grew at their fastest pace for nine years last month, the latest official figures show.
The US Labor Department said wages grew at an annual rate of 3.1% in October, accelerating from a rate of 2.8% the month before.
The economy also added 250,000 jobs last month, beating expectations, while the jobless rate remained at 3.7%.
US wage growth hits nine-year high
Inflation is going up quicker than wages are, opps.
Inflation hurts our oldest members the most.
Thats why Social security & medicare are so important
If we want these programs, then they need to be funded. They are causing all kinds of problems because people lived their lives without saving and depended on SS being enough to make it. It isn't.
Medicare and Medicaid only pay about 2/3 of their patients bill. Not a big deal for a doctors visit, but a real problem for a $200,000 surgery. So then they need to up their prices and that gets passed on to non-government patients who's sole payer is insurance. Then insurance rates go up and it becomes unaffordable for some people.
You are a moron.I've yet to meet a Republican who didn't take Social Security & Medicare after retirenent?
I have seen a lot complain about such programs none the less.
Seems a bit hypocritical, no?
You can’t steal money from someone all their life and expect that person not to want some of that money back when they are old and retired just because of principle.You are a moron.I've yet to meet a Republican who didn't take Social Security & Medicare after retirenent?
I have seen a lot complain about such programs none the less.
Seems a bit hypocritical, no?
You can’t steal money from someone all their life and expect that person not to want some of that money back when they are old and retired just because of principle.
Plain & simple you don't complain about something you end up running in line for thats called hypocrisy.
