Which was the bigger LIE? WMDs or 46 million "uninsured"???

[healthmyths]

All of you Obamatrons so constantly blathering "Bush LIED people died" because they haven't found the WMDs yet that are in Syria by the way... YET YOU've bought hook line and sinker the BIGGEST most disastrous lie that Obama has told: "there are 46 million uninsured Americans"!

FACTS are there are less the 4 million Americans that truly want and need insurance! 4 Million NOT 46 million!

YET this bald grotesque LIE passed Obamacare by only 6 votes..
AND NOW we have even Harry Reid calling Obamacare a "train wreck"!
All because everyone including conservatives still think there were 46 million that wanted and needed insurance!

1) Census says 10 million of uninsured are not citizens!
2) A studyBlue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
- Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government
health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
by Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

24 million from 46 million leaves 22 million!
NOW the biggest stupidest LIE!!
Counted among those remaining 22 million are 18 million people that DON'T WANT health insurance!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND the implications of this???
These 18 million make over $50,000 a year. Don't want their employers insurance because they spend less then $1,000 a year out of their own pocket for health care!
THAT leaves 4 million! NOT 46 million! The biggest LIE ever told by a President... FAR BIGGER and more costly then WMDs!!!

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

how about the lie about all of the millions of jobs Yobama promised in the New Green Energy Crapola? Millions? how many people do we need to make solar panels when barely anyone is buying them? just like with the Chevy Volt!

 

[MostJadedGamer]

46 million is probably LOW not high. I know tons of people who want insurance. Especially my sister who has tons of health, and is constantly in life, and death situation fairly often, and yet can get no help. The healthcare system in the US is a disgrace, ands its been a disgrace long before Obamacare.

 

[MostJadedGamer]

Thousands of people die in the US every year from lack of access to healthcare.

 

[S.J.]

Thousands of people die in the US every year from lack of access to healthcare.

It'll continue to be that way after Obamacare is fully implemented, only it will be mostly seniors who die.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

how come no one in the press have ever asked Obama about the upcoming doctor shortage?

 

[The Rabbi]

There were WMDs. But in any case that was not the primary reason for the war.
The alleged lack of health insurance was the primary stated reason for Obamacare. But Obamacare will end up costing millions their health coverage as companies dump their employees on exchanges.
I think the biggest lie is "If you like your health plan, you can keep it."

 

[NYcarbineer]

Healthmyths has started this same thread about 2 dozen times now,

and it's based on HIS lie.

The truth is as follows:

Link is below:

Last night, President Obama stated: "We are the only democracy—the only advanced democracy on Earth—the only wealthy nation—that allows such hardship for millions of its people. There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage."

So for starters the OP is lying because the President's number, which was based on census numbers,

was 30+ million, not 46 million.

Once the OP concedes that he has been lying about this for YEARS now, then maybe we could move to deciding what the most reasonable accurate number was.

Counting the Uninsured: 46 Million or ?More than 30 Million?? | The White House

 

[The Rabbi]

Healthmyths has started this same thread about 2 dozen times now,

and it's based on HIS lie.

The truth is as follows:

Link is below:

Last night, President Obama stated: "We are the only democracy—the only advanced democracy on Earth—the only wealthy nation—that allows such hardship for millions of its people. There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage."

So for starters the OP is lying because the President's number, which was based on census numbers,

was 30+ million, not 46 million.

Once the OP concedes that he has been lying about this for YEARS now, then maybe we could move to deciding what the most reasonable accurate number was.

Counting the Uninsured: 46 Million or ?More than 30 Million?? | The White House

30M was also a lie.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Which was the bigger LIE? WMDs or 46 million "uninsured"???

It's time you face facts....you're gonna have to find some other source of income....other-than profiting from others' grief.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI]BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Wendell Potter | PBS - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Thousands of people die in the US every year from lack of access to healthcare.

.....And, healthmyths has decided thinning-the-herd (more) seems the most corporate-friendly way to generate income.
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[Mr. Shaman]

Thousands of people die in the US every year from lack of access to healthcare.

It'll continue to be that way after Obamacare is fully implemented, only it will be mostly seniors who die.

....At least....that's what The Axis Of Ignorance insists....except, they "forget" to explain.....

....exactly HOW!!

.

 

[Black_Label]

WMD's hands down. It cost the nation over 2 trillion dollars and the loss of over 4,000 troops lives.

W and his cronies should be in jail right now.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

There were WMDs. But in any case that was not the primary reason for the war.

'Tis TRUE!!!!
(....Besides the WMD lies.)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqX3DRtZtU]60 Minutes: George W. Bush Sought to -Find A Way- to Invade Iraq - YouTube[/ame]
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-D1jCZ31Uw]EXPOSED: Bush Planned on Invading Iraq Before 9/11-Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]​

The alleged lack of health insurance was the primary stated reason for Obamacare.

Yeah....sure it was!!!

Health Care.....during a recession.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

WMD's hands down. It cost the nation over 2 trillion dollars and the loss of over 4,000 troops lives.

W and his cronies should be in jail right now.

....After they've donated all proceed$ to the VA!!!!!



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fHGCZC6EQs]Iraq War Profiteers: Part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awbC_bXwEWg]Iraq War Profiteers - Part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[healthmyths]

46 million is probably LOW not high. I know tons of people who want insurance. Especially my sister who has tons of health, and is constantly in life, and death situation fairly often, and yet can get no help. The healthcare system in the US is a disgrace, ands its been a disgrace long before Obamacare.

ANECDOTAL! EXCEPTION. Everyone knows someone!
Is your sister an illegal citizen?
Has she checked out Medicaid?
And YES she maybe one of the 4 million!
AND because though of Obama's LIE by counting 10 million illegals. 14 million that are already covered by Medicaid and counting
18 million that don't want or need health insurance.. YOUR SISTER SUFFERS!
All because OBAMA/Congress didn't put TORT reform and didn't tax lawyers like they did tanning salons!
Don't you get it?
The doctors are telling you! Lawsuits has caused doctors to do $850 billion a year in duplicate tests, referrals all out of fear!
Tax lawyers like tanning salons use the tax to pay a premium for your sister. She's covered.
Hospitals then won't be able to pad and pass to cover the uninsured as they do now and watch how health costs drop!
$100 billion a year in projected savings alone in these two areas!
That's it!

 

[healthmyths]

Healthmyths has started this same thread about 2 dozen times now,

and it's based on HIS lie.

The truth is as follows:

Link is below:

Last night, President Obama stated: "We are the only democracy—the only advanced democracy on Earth—the only wealthy nation—that allows such hardship for millions of its people. There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage."

So for starters the OP is lying because the President's number, which was based on census numbers,

was 30+ million, not 46 million.

Once the OP concedes that he has been lying about this for YEARS now, then maybe we could move to deciding what the most reasonable accurate number was.

Counting the Uninsured: 46 Million or ?More than 30 Million?? | The White House

30M was also a lie.​

....per The Axis Of Ignorance.​

ON August 21, 2009 Obama said: "We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR
Now I gave you Obama's exact QUOTE! HE said 46 million!

OK let's concede he said 30 million!
18 million DON"T WANT HEALTH INSURANCE. THEY PAY THEIR OWN WAY!
So are you counting people that don't want health insurance???
That leaves 12 million!
WHY then are 10 million per the census counted when they are NOT AMERICANS?
That leaves 2 million you idiot!

 

[healthmyths]

Healthmyths has started this same thread about 2 dozen times now,

and it's based on HIS lie.

The truth is as follows:

Link is below:

Last night, President Obama stated: "We are the only democracy—the only advanced democracy on Earth—the only wealthy nation—that allows such hardship for millions of its people. There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage."

So for starters the OP is lying because the President's number, which was based on census numbers,

was 30+ million, not 46 million.

Once the OP concedes that he has been lying about this for YEARS now, then maybe we could move to deciding what the most reasonable accurate number was.

Counting the Uninsured: 46 Million or ?More than 30 Million?? | The White House

1) The census admits 10 million are not citizens!
2) 18 million counted as "uninsured" don't want health insurance! They are under 34, make over $50,000 a year! They spend out of their pocket $1,000 a year for health services!

That leaves 2 million of the 30 million then!
YOU guys are making Obama's lie WORSE!!!
ON August 21, 2009 Obama said: "We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR

 

[J.E.D]

Which was the bigger LIE? WMDs or 46 million "uninsured"???

Obama never said 46 million are uninsured; so, your thread is based on your own lie.

But, I'll play along with your false equivalency by asking YOU a few questions:

Which one caused the death of over 120,00 civilians and over 4,000 U.S. military personell?

Which one distracted from the killing or capture of Bin Laden, the man responsible for the deaths of over 3,000 civilians on U.S. soil, and the sole reason Bush started the 'War on Terror'?

Which one was paid for by borrowing money from China and adding trillions to the national debt?

 

[velvtacheeze]

All of you Obamatrons so constantly blathering "Bush LIED people died" because they haven't found the WMDs yet that are in Syria by the way... YET YOU've bought hook line and sinker the BIGGEST most disastrous lie that Obama has told: "there are 46 million uninsured Americans"!

FACTS are there are less the 4 million Americans that truly want and need insurance! 4 Million NOT 46 million!

YET this bald grotesque LIE passed Obamacare by only 6 votes..
AND NOW we have even Harry Reid calling Obamacare a "train wreck"!
All because everyone including conservatives still think there were 46 million that wanted and needed insurance!

1) Census says 10 million of uninsured are not citizens!
2) A studyBlue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
- Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government
health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
by Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

24 million from 46 million leaves 22 million!
NOW the biggest stupidest LIE!!
Counted among those remaining 22 million are 18 million people that DON'T WANT health insurance!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND the implications of this???
These 18 million make over $50,000 a year. Don't want their employers insurance because they spend less then $1,000 a year out of their own pocket for health care!
THAT leaves 4 million! NOT 46 million! The biggest LIE ever told by a President... FAR BIGGER and more costly then WMDs!!!

WMD in Iraq was the biggest lie. It led to the deaths of thousands of innocent people, both US and Iraqi, and cost us trillions in dollars. It was a waste, and its failure is why Obama easily won twice. The GOP isn't worthy of the White House at this time because of their mistakes and lies of their Iraq Debacle.