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Right before he abandoned the place in a slapdash and ham handed way.
So why did the Democrats promise they would defund the war and stop it? Were they lying??
Once the Dems had the power to, they began the withdrawal from Iraq, which was slow, deliberate and relatively peaceful. It was not abandoned, since the Iraqis wanted us out. If they wanted us to stay, then you could say abandoned.
Really, you right wingers need to admit that the Iraq War was a mistake, that the American people mostly believe it was boneheaded, and that the GOP has lost two Presidential elections in a row mostly because of that mistake.
I'm trying to help you here, okay? Admit the Iraq War was a mistake.
Wow, it isn't like ancient history. I assume you were alive then.
The truth is that Bush set a framework and timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. A few things were left to later negotiation, like troops staying.
Obama followed that framework and that timetable exactly. He managed to screw up negotiatiing a continuing presence, and we see the results of that.
The war was not a mistake. The war was necessary. Besides, it had the support of a majority of Democrats.
All of you Obamatrons so constantly blathering "Bush LIED people died" because they haven't found the WMDs yet that are in Syria by the way... YET YOU've bought hook line and sinker the BIGGEST most disastrous lie that Obama has told: "there are 46 million uninsured Americans"!
FACTS are there are less the 4 million Americans that truly want and need insurance! 4 Million NOT 46 million!
YET this bald grotesque LIE passed Obamacare by only 6 votes..
AND NOW we have even Harry Reid calling Obamacare a "train wreck"!
All because everyone including conservatives still think there were 46 million that wanted and needed insurance!
1) Census says 10 million of uninsured are not citizens!
2) A studyBlue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found:
- Of the 44.7 million non-elderly uninsured individuals identified in the 2004 Census Current Population Survey (CPS) data,
nearly one-third — almost 14 million — were reachable through existing government
health programs such as Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) under current rules.
by Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
24 million from 46 million leaves 22 million!
NOW the biggest stupidest LIE!!
Counted among those remaining 22 million are 18 million people that DON'T WANT health insurance!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND the implications of this???
These 18 million make over $50,000 a year. Don't want their employers insurance because they spend less then $1,000 a year out of their own pocket for health care!
THAT leaves 4 million! NOT 46 million! The biggest LIE ever told by a President... FAR BIGGER and more costly then WMDs!!!
Healthmyths has started this same thread about 2 dozen times now,
and it's based on HIS lie.
The truth is as follows:
Link is below:
Last night, President Obama stated: "We are the only democracythe only advanced democracy on Earththe only wealthy nationthat allows such hardship for millions of its people. There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage."
So for starters the OP is lying because the President's number, which was based on census numbers,
was 30+ million, not 46 million.
Once the OP concedes that he has been lying about this for YEARS now, then maybe we could move to deciding what the most reasonable accurate number was.
Counting the Uninsured: 46 Million or ?More than 30 Million?? | The White House
30M was also a lie.
Once the Dems had the power to, they began the withdrawal from Iraq, which was slow, deliberate and relatively peaceful. It was not abandoned, since the Iraqis wanted us out. If they wanted us to stay, then you could say abandoned.
Really, you right wingers need to admit that the Iraq War was a mistake, that the American people mostly believe it was boneheaded, and that the GOP has lost two Presidential elections in a row mostly because of that mistake.
I'm trying to help you here, okay? Admit the Iraq War was a mistake.
Wow, it isn't like ancient history. I assume you were alive then.
The truth is that Bush set a framework and timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. A few things were left to later negotiation, like troops staying.
Obama followed that framework and that timetable exactly. He managed to screw up negotiatiing a continuing presence, and we see the results of that.
The war was not a mistake. The war was necessary. Besides, it had the support of a majority of Democrats.
Bush set the timetable for withdrawal, but it was forced on him , against his will. His heart wasn't in it. He and most of the GOP wanted permanent occupation. Obama won and kept pretty much to the timetable. The GOP went into pure hissyfit mode once they realized their plan for decades of occupation was being snuffed out by the Dems.
The Iraq War was a disaster and a mistake. We'd be better off not having fought it, and most Iraqis agree.
Healthmyths has started this same thread about 2 dozen times now,
and it's based on HIS lie.
The truth is as follows:
Link is below:
Last night, President Obama stated: "We are the only democracythe only advanced democracy on Earththe only wealthy nationthat allows such hardship for millions of its people. There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage."
So for starters the OP is lying because the President's number, which was based on census numbers,
was 30+ million, not 46 million.
Once the OP concedes that he has been lying about this for YEARS now, then maybe we could move to deciding what the most reasonable accurate number was.
Counting the Uninsured: 46 Million or ?More than 30 Million?? | The White House
30M was also a lie.
At least you're agreeing that healthmyths has been lying.
ON August 21, 2009 Obama said: "We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number : NPR
Now I gave you Obama's exact QUOTE! HE said 46 million!
OK let's concede he said 30 million!
18 million DON"T WANT HEALTH INSURANCE. THEY PAY THEIR OWN WAY!
So are you counting people that don't want health insurance???
That leaves 12 million!
WHY then are 10 million per the census counted when they are NOT AMERICANS?
That leaves 2 million you idiot!
In 2009, according to the U.S. Census there were 50,674 million with no insurance.
These people fell into the following income levels:
Less than $25,000 a yr - 15,483
$25,000 - $49,000 a yr - 15,278
$50,000 -$74,000 a yr - 9,352
$75,000 and more a yr - 10,561
Out of the 15,483 that made under $25,000 a yr, 13,903 were considered below poverty level.
WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE?? Because here are mine!
I am not afraid of showing MY facts why are you???
1) I can tell you 10 million of Obama's 46 million PER THE below link are NOT AMERICANS!
Source: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
A study of the Census' also shows:
2) GIVEN: 14 million are eligible for Medicaid..but they are counted as "uninsured" .
but Obama totally ignored this FACT and subtracting 14 million from 36 million that leaves 22 million
Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) Source:The American Spectator : The Myth of the 46 Million
"in 2007, 17.6 million of the uninsured had annual incomes of more than $50,000 and 9.1 million earned more than $75,000. "
Check out my links and you will see that 18 million are people that can afford but don't want health insurance because it is less for them to pay out of pocket!
Once the Dems had the power to, they began the withdrawal from Iraq, which was slow, deliberate and relatively peaceful. It was not abandoned, since the Iraqis wanted us out. If they wanted us to stay, then you could say abandoned.
Really, you right wingers need to admit that the Iraq War was a mistake, that the American people mostly believe it was boneheaded, and that the GOP has lost two Presidential elections in a row mostly because of that mistake.
I'm trying to help you here, okay? Admit the Iraq War was a mistake.
Wow, it isn't like ancient history. I assume you were alive then.
The truth is that Bush set a framework and timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. A few things were left to later negotiation, like troops staying.
Obama followed that framework and that timetable exactly. He managed to screw up negotiatiing a continuing presence, and we see the results of that.
The war was not a mistake. The war was necessary. Besides, it had the support of a majority of Democrats.
Bush set the timetable for withdrawal, but it was forced on him , against his will. His heart wasn't in it. He and most of the GOP wanted permanent occupation. Obama won and kept pretty much to the timetable. The GOP went into pure hissyfit mode once they realized their plan for decades of occupation was being snuffed out by the Dems.
The Iraq War was a disaster and a mistake. We'd be better off not having fought it, and most Iraqis agree.
In 2009, according to the U.S. Census there were 50,674 million with no insurance.
These people fell into the following income levels:
Less than $25,000 a yr - 15,483
$25,000 - $49,000 a yr - 15,278
$50,000 -$74,000 a yr - 9,352
$75,000 and more a yr - 10,561
Out of the 15,483 that made under $25,000 a yr, 13,903 were considered below poverty level.
WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE?? Because here are mine!
I am not afraid of showing MY facts why are you???
1) I can tell you 10 million of Obama's 46 million PER THE below link are NOT AMERICANS!
Source: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
A study of the Census' also shows:
2) GIVEN: 14 million are eligible for Medicaid..but they are counted as "uninsured" .
but Obama totally ignored this FACT and subtracting 14 million from 36 million that leaves 22 million
Source: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
3) Source:The American Spectator : The Myth of the 46 Million
"in 2007, 17.6 million of the uninsured had annual incomes of more than $50,000 and 9.1 million earned more than $75,000. "
Check out my links and you will see that 18 million are people that can afford but don't want health insurance because it is less for them to pay out of pocket!
Those 18 million are freeloaders who WILL need care and aren't getting preventive care. It's like saying you don't need car insurance. STUPID in a civilized country.
Those 10 million illegals COUNT and cost MORE without a doctor, in ER care.
Your medicaid figure is RW BS.
There are malpractice countermeasures. All you know is your Pubspam and that you don't want to lose your freebies from Medicare Advantage, a stupid Bush giveaway that all Pub plans cut too . The whole thing is a Pub plan, a compromise from the beginning- Just shows Pubs won't vote for ANYTHING that blows their masters' health scam, dupes.
how about the lie about all of the millions of jobs Yobama promised in the New Green Energy Crapola? Millions? how many people do we need to make solar panels when barely anyone is buying them? just like with the Chevy Volt!
We can insure 46 million, but it is too much effort to deport 11 million.
so why should those (like myself) who don't smoke, don't eat like a sumo wrestler, not on drugs, work out regularly, never had an illness, Be Required To Buy Health-Care, When I choose to pay for my own doctor visits? This is like Liberal Leaders walking into every gym, point a gun to all of the members heads and tell them they have to buy health insurance and they don't give a chit if you are in top condition.
so why should those (like myself) who don't smoke, don't eat like a sumo wrestler, not on drugs, work out regularly, never had an illness, Be Required To Buy Health-Care, When I choose to pay for my own doctor visits? This is like Liberal Leaders walking into every gym, point a gun to all of the members heads and tell them they have to buy health insurance and they don't give a chit if you are in top condition.
and your premiums will be the same as the 300 pound smoker with hepatitis and lung cancer. What a deal-----------equal misery for all under chairman maobama.
