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ummm... it ain't nearly finished yet...
and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's somehow used to try to influence the presidential election eight months from now...
First, nobody will remember it. I've tracked cases like this for years. They have a two to three month life span IF THAT.
Second, what does the president have to do with this besides his skin tone? Don't worry... I'll wait...
first, the issue might well have "legs"... depends on how long the MSM decides to push the story...
second, the issue has nothing to do with the president... but the MSM, as well as other players, may decide to push it as though it does...
True. If you were the guy on the left, how would you feel about the guy on the right scoping you out, then leaving his car to follow you (and if the girl's story is true, chasing you), in the dark ...
I wonder too if zimmerman's gun was visible to Martin?
I 'spect Zimmerman didn't brandish the gun at first (but was nonetheless emboldened to challenge Martin because he had the gun)... and pulled the gun out only when he felt threatened by Martin's refusal to back down...
Zimmerman has MILLIONS of defenders I gather. I wish the teenager had had just one......................................
What I think of your avie MIGHT be a crime....in some states.
If I see someone suspicious looking walking (or driving) around my neighborhood I'll follow him around until he leaves. And given the opportunity, I'll ask him if he's lost. I'm pretty sure there is no law against that.
Like I said in another thread, I bet that if Zimmerman gets out of this a free man he will move to some state where what he did in Florida would not legal for someone to do to him.
Otherwise he'll be looking over his shoulder all the time for someone who sees him as a threat - because a large portion of the state of Florida will legally and defensibly see him as a threat.
Like I said in another thread, I bet that if Zimmerman gets out of this a free man he will move to some state where what he did in Florida would not legal for someone to do to him.
Otherwise he'll be looking over his shoulder all the time for someone who sees him as a threat - because a large portion of the state of Florida will legally and defensibly see him as a threat.
This Zimmerman will not be exonerated with regards to this case. If the telephone evidence is correct, this Zimmerman will be charged with murder. There was no real
justification for the shooting of Trevon Martin. The teenager was fleeing from him, not attacking him. Zimmerman appears to be the aggressor here, he can not invoke self defense with regards to this case.!,if the person was fleeing from him.!!
Like I said in another thread, I bet that if Zimmerman gets out of this a free man he will move to some state where what he did in Florida would not legal for someone to do to him.
Otherwise he'll be looking over his shoulder all the time for someone who sees him as a threat - because a large portion of the state of Florida will legally and defensibly see him as a threat.
This Zimmerman will not be exonerated with regards to this case. If the telephone evidence is correct, this Zimmerman will be charged with murder. There was no real
justification for the shooting of Trevon Martin. The teenager was fleeing from him, not attacking him. Zimmerman appears to be the aggressor here, he can not invoke self defense with regards to this case.!,if the person was fleeing from him.!!
He can, he was "injured". And he can claim the teenager killed attacked HIM. NO INVESTIGATION until the last few days. Evidence gets stale.........only public outcry got even FDLE involved.
Its not?
If I see someone suspicious looking walking (or driving) around my neighborhood I'll follow him around until he leaves. And given the opportunity, I'll ask him if he's lost. I'm pretty sure there is no law against that.
That's called stalking. You can watch them to insure the safety of your property. You very well could ask them where they are going out of concern. However you cannot "follow" someone you think is suspicious if they are not on your property. If that was the case any old stalker can just say "well I stalked them because they were suspicious". That's stupidity. Zimmerman was advised not to follow the boy, because that's harassment.
I shouldn't be followed and stalked by random people walking down the street because they think I look "suspicious", ESPECIALLY in a car because following someone is considered a threat.
Like I said in another thread, I bet that if Zimmerman gets out of this a free man he will move to some state where what he did in Florida would not legal for someone to do to him.
Otherwise he'll be looking over his shoulder all the time for someone who sees him as a threat - because a large portion of the state of Florida will legally and defensibly see him as a threat.
This Zimmerman will not be exonerated with regards to this case. If the telephone evidence is correct, this Zimmerman will be charged with murder. There was no real
justification for the shooting of Trevon Martin. The teenager was fleeing from him, not attacking him. Zimmerman appears to be the aggressor here, he can not invoke self defense with regards to this case.!,if the person was fleeing from him.!!
He can, he was "injured". And he can claim the teenager killed attacked HIM. NO INVESTIGATION until the last few days. Evidence gets stale.........only public outcry got even FDLE involved.
This Zimmerman will not be exonerated with regards to this case. If the telephone evidence is correct, this Zimmerman will be charged with murder. There was no real
justification for the shooting of Trevon Martin. The teenager was fleeing from him, not attacking him. Zimmerman appears to be the aggressor here, he can not invoke self defense with regards to this case.!,if the person was fleeing from him.!!
He can, he was "injured". And he can claim the teenager killed attacked HIM. NO INVESTIGATION until the last few days. Evidence gets stale.........only public outcry got even FDLE involved.
He injured himself by way of attacking the teenanger Martin, and or tackleing him.
Those injures were not inflicted by Martin.
If I see someone suspicious looking walking (or driving) around my neighborhood I'll follow him around until he leaves. And given the opportunity, I'll ask him if he's lost. I'm pretty sure there is no law against that.
That's called stalking. You can watch them to insure the safety of your property. You very well could ask them where they are going out of concern. However you cannot "follow" someone you think is suspicious if they are not on your property. If that was the case any old stalker can just say "well I stalked them because they were suspicious". That's stupidity. Zimmerman was advised not to follow the boy, because that's harassment.
I shouldn't be followed and stalked by random people walking down the street because they think I look "suspicious", ESPECIALLY in a car because following someone is considered a threat.
The Seminole county Sheriff said SELF DEFENSE. As if a gun ever lost to a bag of skittles................................Zimmerman sure wasn't in "fear" when left his vehicle though.
He can, he was "injured". And he can claim the teenager killed attacked HIM. NO INVESTIGATION until the last few days. Evidence gets stale.........only public outcry got even FDLE involved.
He injured himself by way of attacking the teenanger Martin, and or tackleing him.
Those injures were not inflicted by Martin.
Martin cannot testify, no blood test was done on the killer............................................. a sad, and sick situation.
That's called stalking. You can watch them to insure the safety of your property. You very well could ask them where they are going out of concern. However you cannot "follow" someone you think is suspicious if they are not on your property. If that was the case any old stalker can just say "well I stalked them because they were suspicious". That's stupidity. Zimmerman was advised not to follow the boy, because that's harassment.
I shouldn't be followed and stalked by random people walking down the street because they think I look "suspicious", ESPECIALLY in a car because following someone is considered a threat.
The Seminole county Sheriff said SELF DEFENSE. As if a gun ever lost to a bag of skittles................................Zimmerman sure wasn't in "fear" when left his vehicle though.
If those "wounds" were inflicted by Martin, I can't say that I would blame him at all. He was being harassed, he had the right to defend himself. Zimmerman should have stayed in his vehicle.
I don't know what country you live in, but in mine, we don't presume guilt. They are investigating, though, as they should.
A lot of people seem to be presuming that the kid was guilty of ... something.
I asked a ways back on the thread
Zimmerman is in no way obligated to listen to a 911 dispatcher. Citizens are allowed to contront and stop crimes if they are happening. Flordia's law, in fact, says that anyone is allowed to hold their ground with deadly force if they feel threatened. There is no obligation to try to run away in order to claim self-defense. It would be very hard to convict him of murder with such a law.
What crime was Trayvon committing?
I don't believe that was ever answered; maybe I missed it.
I don't know what country you live in, but in mine, we don't presume guilt. They are investigating, though, as they should.
A lot of people seem to be presuming that the kid was guilty of ... something.
I asked a ways back on the thread
What crime was Trayvon committing?
I don't believe that was ever answered; maybe I missed it.
Walking while Black. Here is the audio, I just wanted to place it in here.
Trayvon Martin 911 Call From Neighbors and Zimmerman (Audio) | Z6Mag
A lot of people seem to be presuming that the kid was guilty of ... something.
I asked a ways back on the thread
I don't believe that was ever answered; maybe I missed it.
Walking while Black. Here is the audio, I just wanted to place it in here.
Trayvon Martin 911 Call From Neighbors and Zimmerman (Audio) | Z6Mag
I have been guilty of this.
